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| The attempt of a Micsig (A/S)TO11xx general purpose thread ... :-) |
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| Fungus:
--- Quote from: nctnico on July 27, 2021, 06:33:01 pm --- --- Quote from: Fungus on July 25, 2021, 02:11:42 pm ---They can gain a lot of fans by updating the firmware. --- End quote --- Why? --- End quote --- As already noted, it would generate a whole load of new youtube videos, etc., what wel call "buzz". https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/msg3615904/#msg3615904 --- Quote from: nctnico on July 27, 2021, 06:33:01 pm ---Would you give away your software for free? --- End quote --- I would if my business was in selling hardware to run it and I was in a market where other players do supply updates with new features. |
| MustardMan:
--- Quote from: nctnico on July 27, 2021, 06:33:01 pm ---...If you want the features from the newer devices in a few years, then buy a new device. --- End quote --- Disagree completely with that statement. I would pay for software to upgrade functionality or features (non-expiring purchase: the practice of licensing firmware for any period and having it 'brick' is unacceptable in my book). However, unless it was actually the hardware that provided the new capability (then its' a new device), I would be loathe to buy a completely new item just to get an extra icon on the screen. |
| Fungus:
It would be nice if Micsig could tell us their plans now that they have a representative here... :) |
| Fraser:
I have a small insight into Chinese designed and produced products. From my experience, the products are developed to the point of providing the desired functionality and a decision is made to release the product to market to recover the financial investment in it. If the product has any significant bugs in its firmware, these are often addressed with a firmware release, though some companies fail to do this. The company desires recovery of investment as its first and highest priority… “sell product” becomes their focus and if the product is any good, it will sell to markets across the World. Minor bugs may still exist in the product but it is not uncommon for these to remain unresolved for a significant period of time, or even forever. Once the product has been released the associated design team often move on to a new project as their work is considered ‘done’. Firmware development is not a free activity so the company has to consider whether further development work on a product will deliver increased sales or just make the product better for current users. Sadly the maths may show that the firmware development hours are better spent on a new product that the design team have moved onto. It is not unknown for a Chinese manufacturer to respond to a bug complaint with “we will fix that in the next generation of product”. They are not trying to be unkind to current owners of their equipment, it is just the business decision to maintain new product development and associated profit. Some companies invest in a firmware and software development team that is large enough to develop firmware updates for current products as well as create firmware for new products that are under development. Those ‘legacy firmware’ staff have to be paid though so the return on that investment has to make financial sense to the companies management. I know nothing of Micsig as a company but we need to consider how much resource they can afford to invest in a product that already delivers on its promises and sells well. “Nice to have” functions may be very important to some users but may not have significant effect on the sales of product in the marketplace. I own the ATO1102 and I find it to be a well sorted compact tablet DSO. Micsig may well be developing the next generation of tablet DSO and their firmware developers may be fully committed to that project. Such a firmware project will likely take priority over firmware updates for a product that already meets its specification and sells well. I obviously hope that Micsig will release firmware with additional features or improvements, but I do understand if they choose not to. It is not personal, just business after all. I am very pleased to own their ATO1102 and what it offers me in terms of portability and ease of use :-+ |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: Fraser on July 28, 2021, 04:42:37 pm ---I have a small insight into Chinese designed and produced products. From my experience, the products are developed to the point of providing the desired functionality and a decision is made to release the product to market to recover the financial investment in it. If the product has any significant bugs in its firmware, these are often addressed with a firmware release, though some companies fail to do this. The company desires recovery of investment as its first and highest priority… “sell product” becomes their focus and if the product is any good, it will sell to markets across the World. Minor bugs may still exist in the product but it is not uncommon for these to remain unresolved for a significant period of time, or even forever. --- End quote --- MicSig doesn't work like that at all. When I bought my TO1104 they where very clear about what worked and which features they still planned to add. In addition to that what they claimed was finished was finished. IIRC I have not been able to find one single bug despite thourough testing. Later on MicSig did add the features which where promised and they also work as advertised. IOW: be careful with generalisations like you wrote above. They aren't always true! |
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