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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1650 on: April 15, 2023, 02:41:18 am »
The flash drives that I've used can reliably upgrade and downgrade versions of firmware prior to 37R3.  They are 64MB and 128MB FAT formatted. I've also tried ExFAT formatted 4GB, 8GB and 16GB flash drives without success.  They all identify, select the file properly and start the update, but then fail part way through.

 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1651 on: April 15, 2023, 03:55:45 am »
Try FAT32 with 4k clusters. Max size = 8GB
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1652 on: April 15, 2023, 05:22:50 am »
Just tried:
4GB Flash drive. Deleted existing volume.  Added new simple volume.  (Full) formatted FAT32, 4k clusters.  Copied 37r6 firmware file to it.
Drive inserted in SDG2042X USB port (detected).  System --> Firmware Update.  Selected firmware file.  Recall. 
Shows progress bar:  ...10% ...20%...Update Failed.
Returns to file browser screen.

What am I missing?

 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1653 on: April 15, 2023, 07:14:58 am »
Just tried:
4GB Flash drive. Deleted existing volume.  Added new simple volume.  (Full) formatted FAT32, 4k clusters.  Copied 37r6 firmware file to it.
Drive inserted in SDG2042X USB port (detected).  System --> Firmware Update.  Selected firmware file.  Recall. 
Shows progress bar:  ...10% ...20%...Update Failed.
Returns to file browser screen.

What am I missing?
Have you another under 8GB to try ?

With the recoveries I help with often something with what should be a suitable drive won't let the process complete, don't ask me why but too many times I have seen it with owners not able to proceed when they should be able to.

All I can suggest is to format again, even just a quick format should work and add the 37r6 firmware .ADS file into the root.
Should that fail try a new USB stick....sometimes purchasing a new one fixes these issues....don't ask me why.  :-//
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1654 on: April 15, 2023, 11:06:23 am »
Just like firmware V2.01.01.37R3, V2.01.01.37R6 fails to install on my SDG2042X (hardware version 02-01-00-40-00).
I have just updated my SDG2042X with the exact same hardware version. No problems whatsoever.
I used an old 32GB USB stick I just had nearby. It happens to be FAT32 formatted with 512 byte cluster size.

Even though it is many years since I last heard of it, could it be that you have a bad download of the firmware file?
The SHA256 sum of the ADS file here (that worked) is:
e492c7d22dc251f2d3a8243db0d6bdeaf7c8cc88ba7ee572f06a65195514d5d1
 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1655 on: April 15, 2023, 02:09:37 pm »
The SHA256 checksum is correct.  Thanks for that info.

I don't think it's a flash drive issue. 
I just used the same flash drive to successfully go back from 2.01.01.35R3B2 to 2.01.01.23R8 and then tried to go up to 2.01.01.37R6 which failed. Going back up to 2.01.01.35R3B2 from 2.01.01.23R8 succeeded.  It just won't go later than 2.01.01.35R3B2.

I wonder if there is some internal file that is corrupted or read only that the latest firmware updates are trying to modify?  Is there a log file that can be accessed to see where the firmware update is failing?
 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1656 on: April 15, 2023, 02:14:55 pm »
My 2042X (up to 2122) with version 05.xx was updated without problems. I used noname stick 8GB with 4KB cluster.
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1657 on: June 05, 2023, 04:39:49 pm »
I don't know when this started and I'm pretty sure everything was fine before, but now if I select 1KHz 1 volt peak to peak signal on the SDG2042X I confirmed it with 2 scopes that I indeed have 2V peak to peak coming out of the generator.

The software version is 2.01.01.37R3

hardware version 02-02-00-40-00

It is changed to be a SDG2122X a while back, but I don't recall seeing higher voltages earlier.
There is a possibility that I missed it after the firmware update, but I think I would have noticed it sooner.

Anybody had issues with the amplitude being double what it should be?

 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1658 on: June 05, 2023, 04:44:32 pm »
I don't know when this started and I'm pretty sure everything was fine before, but now if I select 1KHz 1 volt peak to peak signal on the SDG2042X I confirmed it with 2 scopes that I indeed have 2V peak to peak coming out of the generator.

The software version is 2.01.01.37R3

hardware version 02-02-00-40-00

It is changed to be a SDG2122X a while back, but I don't recall seeing higher voltages earlier.
There is a possibility that I missed it after the firmware update, but I think I would have noticed it sooner.

Anybody had issues with the amplitude being double what it should be?

Set the output impedance to High-Z when high-Z probing is applied.
 
 
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1659 on: June 05, 2023, 04:55:54 pm »
A classic... 8)

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1660 on: June 05, 2023, 05:05:27 pm »
I don't know when this started and I'm pretty sure everything was fine before, but now if I select 1KHz 1 volt peak to peak signal on the SDG2042X I confirmed it with 2 scopes that I indeed have 2V peak to peak coming out of the generator.

The software version is 2.01.01.37R3

hardware version 02-02-00-40-00

It is changed to be a SDG2122X a while back, but I don't recall seeing higher voltages earlier.
There is a possibility that I missed it after the firmware update, but I think I would have noticed it sooner.

Anybody had issues with the amplitude being double what it should be?

Set the output impedance to High-Z when high-Z probing is applied.

Damn ...
How on earth I did not noticed it before or did I forget all about it?
Thanks
 
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1661 on: July 07, 2023, 09:27:59 am »
Hello  i just bought a brand new Siglent SDG2042X  and found that i can upgrade it to 120Mhz but i saw that there is 2 hardware versions can u upgrade to 120mhz the newer version and how easy and safe is it? This is first time doing something like this so i am completle clueless.
 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1662 on: July 08, 2023, 01:42:13 am »
To use the Bode plot on my sds1204x-e, with my sdg2042, can you do it with just the regular high impedance scope probes, measuring just the input and output of a circuit ? Or do you always have to have the AWG tied to the scope, and all with 50ohm coax and terminators and all that stuff ? Like in this video.

I still don't have any of that stuff, I might have a M-M 50ohm cable if 1 came with the 2042x. Besides that, I only have the cables that they sell with $20 scopes, with BNC on 1 end, and aligator clips on the other, and I think they are just sub 1 ohm wires.


 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1663 on: July 08, 2023, 05:58:23 am »
To use the Bode plot on my sds1204x-e, with my sdg2042, can you do it with just the regular high impedance scope probes, measuring just the input and output of a circuit ?
Of course you can use whatever probing fits the bill. There are settings to tell the Bode Plot about the impedance of the DUT interfaces. In 99% of the practical cases this will either be High-Z (passive high impedance probes) or 50 ohms (laboratory standard).

Or do you always have to have the AWG tied to the scope, and all with 50ohm coax and terminators and all that stuff ?
You always have the AWG "tied to the scope", either via ethernet or USB.

I still don't have any of that stuff, I might have a M-M 50ohm cable if 1 came with the 2042x. Besides that, I only have the cables that they sell with $20 scopes, with BNC on 1 end, and aligator clips on the other, and I think they are just sub 1 ohm wires.
You seem to have a misconception with the 50 ohms standard, I'm afraid. It's not so that you can measure 50 ohms with your multimeter, because this is not a wire resistance, but the characteristic impedance, which in turn has to do with the dimensions and geometry of the center wire and its shielding - and the dielectricum between them.

The cables with crocodile clips on one end are usually 50 ohms as well, albeit mostly inferior quality. This is less of a concern at low frequencies, but especially the Bode Plotter could suffer from high crosstalk, caused by cheap cables with inefficient shielding.

However the most important prerequisite for using the 50 ohms technique in any test setup is to make sure you have 50 ohms interfaces on your DUT. This will be the case for lab gear and professional RF modules, but neither for audio circuits nor passive RC-structures thrown together on a breadboard. Use high impedance probes (maybe together with suitable termination resistors to satisfy the needs of the DUT ports) in all these cases - and tell the Bode Plotter the correct value of the termination resistors whenever you want to measure power (dBm). This setting is meaningless for voltage measurements (dBV).

 
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1664 on: July 09, 2023, 06:47:18 pm »
Hello people, I am from Argentina, I have the sdg2042x a couple of years ago, I never updated it, it has the version 2.01.01.21r2 and I tried to do the trick, but when I get there, activate the dhcp, it does nothing, it puts everything at 0.0.0.0, I connect it to a lenovo 480, install it putty and nothing I'm doing wrong I need help thanks in advance :scared:
 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1665 on: July 09, 2023, 06:52:21 pm »
Hello people, I am from Argentina, I have the sdg2042x a couple of years ago, I never updated it, it has the version 2.01.01.21r2 and I tried to do the trick, but when I get there, activate the dhcp, it does nothing, it puts everything at 0.0.0.0, I connect it to a lenovo 480, install it putty and nothing I'm doing wrong I need help thanks in advance :scared:
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You need connect to a LAN for DHCP to assign the SDG a valid IP.
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1666 on: July 09, 2023, 07:41:54 pm »
hello the port of the notebook is not lan so I could use a router and connect both in the
 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1667 on: July 09, 2023, 08:29:34 pm »
hello the port of the notebook is not lan so I could use a router and connect both in the
You don't require a connection to SDG to update the firmware.

Download and unpack from here:
https://int.siglent.com/download/firmwares/?ProId=5

Transfer the ADS file onto a USB stick and select the file with the UI to install the firmware.
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1668 on: July 09, 2023, 10:46:04 pm »
I don't want to update until I do the trick. I managed to connect but when I copy the first line and hit enter, the putty closes :palm:
 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1670 on: July 19, 2023, 01:58:48 pm »
The SHA256 checksum is correct.  Thanks for that info.

I don't think it's a flash drive issue. 
I just used the same flash drive to successfully go back from 2.01.01.35R3B2 to 2.01.01.23R8 and then tried to go up to 2.01.01.37R6 which failed. Going back up to 2.01.01.35R3B2 from 2.01.01.23R8 succeeded.  It just won't go later than 2.01.01.35R3B2.

I wonder if there is some internal file that is corrupted or read only that the latest firmware updates are trying to modify?  Is there a log file that can be accessed to see where the firmware update is failing?

I don't know if you already solved the problem but I also was unable to update firmware version 37R3. Up to and including version 35R3B2 it went flawlessly.
After 20% I got the message update failed.
What struck me is that the version 37R3 is much larger (40MB) than the previous version 35R3B2 (15MB).
While logged in with root access using telnet on port 10101, I updated 37R3 and queried disk usage several times during the update.
 
disk use before update
/ # df -h
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
ubi0:rootfs              35.2M     20.2M     14.9M  58% /
none                     60.6M      4.0K     60.6M   0% /tmp
mdev                     60.6M         0     60.6M   0% /dev
ubi1_0                   85.0M     12.6M     72.4M  15% /usr/bin/siglent/usr
ubi2_0                   40.7M     24.0K     40.6M   0% /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0
/dev/sda1               117.6M     38.6M     79.0M  33% /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0

disk use ubi1_0 increases during update
ubi1_0                   85.0M     29.5M     55.5M  35% /usr/bin/siglent/usr
ubi1_0                   85.0M     51.3M     33.7M  60% /usr/bin/siglent/usr
ubi1_0                   85.0M     82.7M      2.3M  97% /usr/bin/siglent/usr


firmware update failed at 100%
ubi1_0                   85.0M     85.0M     16.0K 100% /usr/bin/siglent/usr

disk use ubi1_0 after failing update
ubi1_0                   85.0M     12.6M     72.4M  15% /usr/bin/siglent/usr

Then in the folder /usr/bin/siglent/usr I discovered a file SIGLENT.ADS which I don't think should be there.

/usr/bin/siglent/usr # ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     13486792 Jan  1 00:01 SIGLENT.ADS
drwxr-xr-x    2 1000     ding          616 Jan  1 00:00 config
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1960 Jan  1 00:00 log
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root          160 Jan  1 00:20 mass_storagel
drwxr-xr-x    2 1000     ding          600 Jan  1 00:19 usr
-rwxr-xr-x    1 1000     ding           74 Sep 27  2016 version.txt


Removed the SIGLENT.ADS file and then updating 37R3 and then 37R6 went without a hitch.
So there was not enough space for the larger firmware files.


 
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1671 on: July 19, 2023, 02:33:26 pm »
I had not solved it.  I'm still using 2.01.01.35R3B2 and unable to upgrade to later firmware versions
Do you know what Siglent.ADS is?  Is it truly safe to remove?



 

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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1672 on: July 19, 2023, 02:56:16 pm »
Do you know what Siglent.ADS is?  Is it truly safe to remove?

It's the FW update file. Sure you can remove it.
 
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1673 on: July 19, 2023, 03:04:37 pm »
I had not solved it.  I'm still using 2.01.01.35R3B2 and unable to upgrade to later firmware versions
Do you know what Siglent.ADS is?  Is it truly safe to remove?

I discovered that SIGLENT.ADS is exactly the same size as an old firmware file namely 23R3.ADS. So it stayed after that update.
I removed it and everything works.
 
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Re: The Siglent SDG2042X Thread
« Reply #1674 on: July 19, 2023, 04:41:07 pm »
Removed SIGLENT.ADS from /usr/bin/siglent/usr and successfully updated firmware to V2.01.01.37R6.

Thank you for finding the solution!
 
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