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Title: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: lpc32 on March 12, 2014, 04:34:14 pm
I have a flimsy looking type K thermocouple, roughly similar to this:
(http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/elec_mall/2-7.jpg)

The black tubing near the tip is labeled 125°C. Should this thing be suitable for measuring 400-500C with direct contact?
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: dfmischler on March 12, 2014, 04:37:49 pm
It is Type K (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple#Type_K).  Do you have the manufacturer's specifications?  What do they say?
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: Rigby on March 12, 2014, 05:28:55 pm
Not all Type Ks are the same.  The specsheet for the thermocouple you bought will tell you the min/max ratings.  The 125C on the black shrink tube is probably for the shrink tube only.
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: lpc32 on March 12, 2014, 06:11:59 pm
The DMM it came with is specced for much higher. No separate specs for the probe.

Yeah, the 125C is for the tube. But doesn't that imply something about the manufacturer's expected maximum temperature for the whole probe? After all, that tube is almost on the tip.
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: Electric flower on March 12, 2014, 07:06:53 pm
With simmilar thermocouple i managed to get reading od ~800 celsius degrees while heating it with lighter, tip of thermocopule was glowing orange... i was watching out to not light up the shrink tubink, once i tryed to see how durable heatshrink tubing is at temperatures about 400-500 degrees C, heatshrink tube got on flame and it was the worst smell ever.

Still, thermocouple is working fine.

Edit: i guess you could use it but be carefull becouse things can get messy (and smelly)  if you screw up. I have also put a picture of what my tip looks like, sorry i don't have better camera

Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: N2IXK on March 13, 2014, 12:00:18 am
A type K bare wire thermocouple (the Chromel/Alumel wires themselves) is good to over 1200C. Most types of insulation are less heat resistant, and are the limiting factor for any particular TC probe assembly.

You really need to get the manufacturer's datasheet for your particular probe.
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: lpc32 on March 13, 2014, 09:37:31 pm
It's unclear why they add the tubing, then.

And actually I was wrong, there are specs for the probe, sort of. If I understand the manual correctly (Chinese company, borderline English), the probe is up to 230C. Looking at similar probes on eBay, some claim to be up to 300C, others up to 700C. Random numbers, I guess?

What about the following type of probes? Is it better suited for high temperatures? Again, eBay sellers list random numbers for similar probes; anything from 300C up to 1200C.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/$T2eC16JHJIkE9qU3i)j+BQpJoZIM7Q~~60_12.JPG)

Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: N2IXK on March 13, 2014, 11:34:28 pm
Can't tell you anything from a picture. Who knows what is inside that probe. Internal wire insulation may melt, or the probe will conduct enough heat to melt the plastic handle or leadwires.

If you need guaranteed specs, you need to buy from a proper vendor, or be prepared to sacrifice a few cheapies in testing.


Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: hamster_nz on March 13, 2014, 11:45:26 pm
CHeck out http://www.adafruit.com/products/270 (http://www.adafruit.com/products/270) - it has glass and is good to 500C.

I use this part in my reflow oven.
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: lpc32 on March 18, 2014, 01:15:00 am
Shrink tubing included? :)
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: RobertHolcombe on March 18, 2014, 02:37:44 am
Shrink tubing included? :)

"There's a small piece of heat shrink on the end to keep the fiberglass from fraying. If you're using at >250°C temperatures, simply remove it with a small blade."
Title: Re: Thermocouple max. temperature rating?
Post by: lpc32 on March 18, 2014, 04:18:27 am
Hah. That's quaint.