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Title: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 22, 2019, 03:54:12 pm
I thought I'd start a thread on tips and tricks for the RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000.  Some of these may be known already, but hopefully some are new.  I'll try to add more to this as I get time - feel free to add your tips/tricks too!   :-+

-Rich

Tap on clock opens time and date setup.
[attach=1]

Tap on interface icon opens interface short information window (e.g. this is helpful if you need the IP address quickly).
[attach=3]

Tap on gear wheel opens interface menu (this is more if you need to update your USB/Ethernet settings - it gives you quick access to that menu).
[attach=2]

Tap on information window opens numeric keypad.
[attach=4]

Tap on waveform marker to select a waveform.  Every marker is moveable.
[attach=5]
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 22, 2019, 04:08:27 pm
A couple more:

You can name your device:
 SCPI: syst:name “ViliWonka”
[attach=1]


If you tap on menu item it will increment the selection in pull down menu.
[attach=2]

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: BU508A on July 22, 2019, 04:29:31 pm
Hello Rich,

thank you for this nice thread, saw two tricks which I didn't know yet.  :)

But may I ask you to increase the size of the screenshots? With some hi-res display they are a bit hard to read.

Thank you very much.

Mounty
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: maginnovision on July 22, 2019, 05:23:56 pm
Hello Rich,

thank you for this nice thread, saw two tricks which I didn't know yet.  :)

But may I ask you to increase the size of the screenshots? With some hi-res display they are a bit hard to read.

Thank you very much.

Mounty

Yea, here's what I get when I click the image. Without clicking it it's even smaller.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 22, 2019, 09:15:29 pm
Sorry about that.  I'll make them larger.

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 22, 2019, 09:18:48 pm
Tap on clock opens time and date setup.
[attachimg=1]

Tap on interface icon opens interface short information window (e.g. this is helpful if you need the IP address quickly).
[attachimg=2]

Tap on gear wheel opens interface menu (this is more if you need to update your USB/Ethernet settings - it gives you quick access to that menu).
[attachimg=3]

Tap on information window opens numeric keypad.
[attachimg=4]

Tap on waveform marker to select a waveform.  Every marker is moveable.
[attachimg=5]

You can name your device:
 SCPI: syst:name “ViliWonka”
[attachimg=7]

If you tap on menu item it will increment the selection in pull down menu.
[attachimg=8]

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 22, 2019, 09:26:07 pm
Any better?

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: BU508A on July 22, 2019, 09:50:42 pm
Yes.  :-+

Thank You Rich.

Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: hwj-d on July 23, 2019, 01:09:07 am
Booked  :) :-+
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 24, 2019, 03:22:26 am
If you have several sources available, you can click on the measurement source icon to select another one:
[attachimg=1]

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Harjit on July 24, 2019, 03:43:24 am
If the waveform tips are orange or you see up / down arrows next to the channel number on the bottom of the screen, that means the channel was clipped when it was digitized.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 24, 2019, 07:28:01 pm
This is one of my favorites for deep memory captures (works best with lots of memory turned on):

Set the waveform how you want to see it.  Adjust memory depth to an amount that gives offscreen data.
Press Stop.
Make a short swipe in the horizontal direction and the scope will automatically scroll through your waveform for you.

It can take a few tries to get proficient at it (if you don't get it right, the waveform will just move a small amount).  Sometimes helps to do it above/below the trigger level.

[attachimg=1]

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on July 27, 2019, 03:41:51 pm
If you connect a mouse (you can use a mouse and keyboard), you can use the scroll wheel on the mouse to emulate the "multi-purpose knob" on the front panel.
[attachimg=1]

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Warhawk on July 31, 2019, 01:13:56 pm
Please, keep going with this thread.  :-+
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 01, 2019, 05:54:11 pm
You can tap on the calculated cursor value and it will open the cursor menu. If you tap on the automatic measurement value it will open the measurement menu.
[attachimg=1]

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 09, 2019, 05:03:25 pm
A couple cool Pattern Generator tips:

If you are in the arbitrary setup menu, you can tap on the signal it will change the bit level:
[attachimg=1]

You can also tap on the value and manually enter what you want via the keypad and it will set the correct bit levels:
[attachimg=2]

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 12, 2019, 02:11:26 am
Turning on FFT and then pressing autoset will auto-configure the FFT's settings. 

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 12, 2019, 10:28:09 pm
You can set the waveform color (normal/rainbow/fire/temperature) via the channel menu:

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 12, 2019, 10:39:42 pm
Another one of my personal favorites - when you save a setup file, it also saves a screenshot.  You can then search by file view or list - in file view it will show you the screenshot.  I love this because I typically remember more what my setup *looked* like vs. what I named the setup.

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: hwj-d on August 13, 2019, 10:18:54 pm
The automatic picture rendering is faulty!
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 13, 2019, 10:21:33 pm
The automatic picture rendering is faulty!
It looks OK to me.  Can you post a pic of what you're seeing?  I may be doing something wrong embedding the pics.

Thanks,
Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: hwj-d on August 13, 2019, 10:32:29 pm
The automatic picture rendering is faulty!
It looks OK to me.  Can you post a pic of what you're seeing?  I may be doing something wrong embedding the pics.

Thanks,
Rich

That's not you. Something is wrong with the rendering algorithm.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: hwj-d on August 13, 2019, 11:01:01 pm
That must be serverside issue. Because this was FF Win10, but Safari iPadOS 13 is the same.
Depending on iPad orientation horizontal or vertical, there is more or less horizontal picture left on screen. The picture will not fit horizontal lower resolution client screens, as it is with picture expandable thumbnail method. If you have a bigger horizontal screenresolution, you din't notice the mismatch.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: hwj-d on August 13, 2019, 11:07:26 pm
Ok, that's OT here, should be reported to the admins.  :-BROKE

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/suggestions/there-is-another-issue-with-rendering-pictures-horizontal/msg2614179/#msg2614179 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/suggestions/there-is-another-issue-with-rendering-pictures-horizontal/msg2614179/#msg2614179)

Edit: @Rich
I suggest to upload with "end of post expandable thumbnail" method. This pictures fits perfect.
Thanks
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 14, 2019, 04:37:41 pm
Ok, that's OT here, should be reported to the admins.  :-BROKE

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/suggestions/there-is-another-issue-with-rendering-pictures-horizontal/msg2614179/#msg2614179 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/suggestions/there-is-another-issue-with-rendering-pictures-horizontal/msg2614179/#msg2614179)

Edit: @Rich
I suggest to upload with "end of post expandable thumbnail" method. This pictures fits perfect.
Thanks
Thanks - updated.

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 15, 2019, 11:37:02 pm
Another super cool one.  You can "pull out" menus so you have quick access to them.  Open the menu you want, grab it with your finger (or mouse) and slowly slide it to the left.  When you see the blue arrows you can pop it out in to the display.   You can then make quick changes.  You can also add multiple different quick access menus, move them around the display, etc. To delete them, just hit the gear and choose what ones you want to delete.

[attachimg=3]

-Rich

Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 15, 2019, 11:38:15 pm
Does the gif above work for anyone?

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: nctnico on August 15, 2019, 11:39:12 pm
Does the gif above work for anyone?

Not for me.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: jjoonathan on August 16, 2019, 12:30:14 am
I couldn't get the forum upload for gifs to work either. Same symptoms. I've been uploading to gfycat.com and then hotlinking to the thumbnail from (User Heiroglyph > Profile). Presumably there's a bandwidth limit but I haven't hit it yet.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CharmingFalseGrizzlybear.webp)
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: EEVblog on August 16, 2019, 02:16:02 am
I'm guessing the new plugin doesn't support animated GIF's?  :-//
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 16, 2019, 03:39:59 pm
I couldn't get the forum upload for gifs to work either. Same symptoms. I've been uploading to gfycat.com and then hotlinking to the thumbnail from (User Heiroglyph > Profile). Presumably there's a bandwidth limit but I haven't hit it yet.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CharmingFalseGrizzlybear.webp)
Thanks for the tip.  Hopefully what I did above works now (you have to click the image to see the animation).

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Kean on August 16, 2019, 03:59:54 pm
Hopefully what I did above works now (you have to click the image to see the animation).

Yup, thanks.  I'll have to try that - it looks really useful.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 16, 2019, 04:15:48 pm
One more quick one - you can adjust window size easily using the arrows on the left side of the graticule.  This works in zoom mode, FFT, serial decode, etc.  No need to have a fixed window ratio.

Click on the image to see the animated version if the gif doesn't work for you.

[attachimg=1] (https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CheerfulGoodCoral-mobile.mp4)

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 16, 2019, 04:31:59 pm
Looks like gifs are working again?   :-+ 

I've updated the posts - let me know if you all can't see them directly in the posts now.

-Rich
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: genghisnico13 on August 16, 2019, 05:09:32 pm
The last one (the one about resizing) is perfect, good size and it works on desktop and mobile.
The one about quick access works, but is big on the desktop.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Rich@RohdeScopesUSA on August 16, 2019, 09:07:11 pm
OneTouch is pretty cool too, especially if you're doing documentation.  Basically allows you to configure the "camera" button to not only save a screenshot, but also your setup, waveform file, references, event tables and even statistics, all in to a zip file on your thumbdrive with one push.  You can choose what all you want to be saved.

[attachimg=1]

-Rich

PS - I tried resizing this one so hopefully it is more viewable across different platforms.  Let me know. 
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: hwj-d on August 16, 2019, 10:02:19 pm
Quote
PS - I tried resizing this one so hopefully it is more viewable across different platforms.  Let me know. 
Horizontal resolution is fixed! This can't work.
(Think of smartphones.)
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: zitoune on August 02, 2020, 04:23:23 am
Hi Rich,

Thank you for all those tricks; they are very useful!

I got a RTM for a couple of days now and love it. I was wondering how you can display the decoded values (say from an I2C bus) vertically - meaning the HEX values are not displayed like all the screenshots we usually see but rather like what's visible in that R&S image: https://cdn.rohde-schwarz.com/pws/powerslave/504580/18/import5a214aee0d0d9.jpg (https://cdn.rohde-schwarz.com/pws/powerslave/504580/18/import5a214aee0d0d9.jpg)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: Hydron on August 02, 2020, 01:09:23 pm
Use the V/div control to expand the decode vertically, then see if it'll do it.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: egonotto on August 02, 2020, 02:02:24 pm
Hello,

in the picture are not the decoded value in the table but the relative time of the single segments.

Best regards
egonotto
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: zitoune on August 02, 2020, 02:26:51 pm
Use the V/div control to expand the decode vertically, then see if it'll do it.

Thank you - indeed changing the V/div scale does work. Very handy, you can see more decoded values on the screen!
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: zitoune on August 02, 2020, 02:27:28 pm
Hello,

in the picture are not the decoded value in the table but the relative time of the single segments.

Best regards
egonotto

Yes indeed, I was looking at the decoded values on the top part of the screen.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: egonotto on August 02, 2020, 03:16:03 pm
Hello,

what I can get is shown in the two pictures.

Best regards
egonotto
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks: R&S RTB2000/RTM3000/RTA4000
Post by: zitoune on August 20, 2020, 03:46:13 am
Yes this is exactly what I was looking for and it is even more handy when decoding long words like in the attached screenshot (24bits I2S protocol).

Thanks.