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| Big Clive's "Trashy" meter, unboxed ( Duratool D03047 multimeter ) |
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| Fungus:
--- Quote from: floobydust on April 25, 2023, 02:17:28 am --- Is using this on 240VAC mains outright unsafe? --- End quote --- The phrase I was replying to was "outright unsafe". I just measured my mains AC using my Big Clive meter. It said 226V and I'm alive to tell the tale. I wasn't even nervous when I did it. --- Quote from: robert.rozee on April 25, 2023, 03:06:38 am ---https://www.ecmweb.com/safety/arc-flash/article/20898038/the-case-of-the-deadly-arc-flash --- End quote --- So ... don't use a DT830 to measure amps on a large industrial 480V supply? Got it! :-+ |
| David Aurora:
--- Quote from: robert.rozee on April 25, 2023, 03:06:38 am --- --- Quote from: Fungus on April 25, 2023, 02:50:05 am --- --- Quote from: floobydust on April 25, 2023, 02:17:28 am --- Is using this on 240VAC mains outright unsafe? --- End quote --- I vote "no". Proof: The amount of people who use them for that. [...] It's as much about procedure as anything else, eg. triple-check the position of the selector and probe wires, give the probe wires a tug before starting, wear wellies, wear a glove on one hand, don't try and measure the amps. --- End quote --- number of people, not amount regarding the use of the multimeter you happen to have handy rather than the appropriate tool, see: https://www.ecmweb.com/safety/arc-flash/article/20898038/the-case-of-the-deadly-arc-flash cheers, rob :-) --- End quote --- The reality of this thread is that nothing anyone can say is gonna convince this guy that his meter is anything short of amazing. Either we're misrepresenting what he says, or any dangers of the meter can be negated by wearing gumboots, or anyone who doesn't want to risk blowing their hand off to save a few bucks is a softcock, or we don't understand how awesome having a transistor tester in our meter is, or our measurement expectations are too high/low, or you're a 1%er with a bad toupee if you use a proper meter, etc. The goalposts move for every good reason given to avoid a meter that literally costs less than a shitty pizza from Dominos. I've personally been getting a good laugh out of this trainwreck thread ever since the "secret" tip he shared on page one about using hot glue in the ends of your probes to make them better. It's kind of like watching an Ichiban Moto video, except this guy isn't in on the joke. At the end of the day, old mate just wants a pat on the back for outwitting everyone and getting the bargain of a lifetime. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: David Aurora on April 25, 2023, 06:50:34 am ---Either we're misrepresenting what he says --- End quote --- Yep. --- Quote from: David Aurora on April 25, 2023, 06:50:34 am ---or any dangers of the meter can be negated by wearing gumboots --- End quote --- Why are you banging on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about "safety". Not once have I ever said this meter is suitable for high-energy work. (in fact I've said "don't!" several times) |
| David Aurora:
--- Quote from: Fungus on April 25, 2023, 08:47:41 am --- --- Quote from: David Aurora on April 25, 2023, 06:50:34 am ---Either we're misrepresenting what he says --- End quote --- Yep. --- Quote from: David Aurora on April 25, 2023, 06:50:34 am ---or any dangers of the meter can be negated by wearing gumboots --- End quote --- Why are you banging on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about "safety". Not once have I ever said this meter is suitable for high-energy work. (in fact I've said "don't!" several times) --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Fungus on April 25, 2023, 03:47:46 am --- --- Quote from: floobydust on April 25, 2023, 02:17:28 am --- Is using this on 240VAC mains outright unsafe? --- End quote --- The phrase I was replying to was "outright unsafe". I just measured my mains AC using my Big Clive meter. It said 226V and I'm alive to tell the tale. I wasn't even nervous when I did it. --- Quote from: robert.rozee on April 25, 2023, 03:06:38 am ---https://www.ecmweb.com/safety/arc-flash/article/20898038/the-case-of-the-deadly-arc-flash --- End quote --- So ... don't use a DT830 to measure amps on a large industrial 480V supply? Got it! :-+ --- End quote --- Another post, another sidestep. Yawn. The reason I and others have banged on about safety is because stupid people read stupid advice on the internet and then go do stupid things. This thread is full of such advice. You keep banging on about how these things work just fine at high voltages, then when you get called out you backtrack and claim you never said they were suitable for it. One minute you're saying "Don't do it", the next you're saying you did anyway. Some noob could easily take your bravado as gospel and go probing mains using the wrong terminals or mode and get a free pass to destination fucked. They could even do it correctly, cop a surge and still get that ticket. They could just as easily (and this is the key here) probe something that SHOULD be low energy but isn't due to circuit failure or mislabelling, and be completely unprepared for the shitstorm that rains down. If you love these things for testing 9V batteries and measuring resistors then cool, that's great. But once you start sprinkling disclaimers about your safety advice being "to appease thread nannies" and telling stories about using these meters for things people shouldn't, you're making a clear inference that these ARE in fact OK to use in potentially lethal situations. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: David Aurora on April 25, 2023, 11:24:56 am ---You keep banging on about how these things work just fine at high voltages, then when you get called out you backtrack and claim you never said they were suitable for it. --- End quote --- Rubbish. I said they were suitable for high voltage, and I stand by that. Pictures have been posted of a worse meter than this measuring 1100V in somebody's hand. (I notice you don't go after joe...) I also said they weren't suitable for high energy. If you can't understand the difference between the two then you're in no position to lecture anybody on safety. This meter is CAT I 500V rated. I think that's a correct rating and said so in the very first post, anything else is just your imagination. End of. |
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