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asis:
Interesting discussion here.

The fact is that no matter how prepared an electronics engineer is, he is not able to quickly make a decision and choose a means of measurement (any) because he needs to quickly restore all previously acquired skills in order to apply them to analyze events.


Well, let's imagine the situation using the example of Neuralink developers with a multi-channel, essentially analog oscilloscope which does not even have any intelligible synchronization.
How should he interpret what he sees in this stream?

mag_therm:

Greybeards go on as if this basic stuff is from some other planet.  :-//
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I as graybeered give example of "poor" HMI based on the GWI1202B here

A most basic selection is trigger source.
It requires  3 "pecks" to get the menu followed by a "screwing around" the Variable knob which has no detents.
Try to align it with the selection.
That really puts me off using it.
 I will let the 17 year old here try it and ask him.

aeg:

--- Quote from: tautech on December 26, 2022, 08:02:25 pm ---Something I don't miss at all with analogue scopes....all the mental arithmetic just to use the scope vs a DSO that when set correctly excludes all that BS and instead lets you focus on the DUT measurement instead.

Pinched from another thread as a fine example:


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OK, I'll bite... If the DSO excludes all the BS, what's that to the left of the rising edge?

Hint: transcendental functions

tautech:

--- Quote from: mag_therm on December 27, 2022, 02:05:35 am ---tautech said:

--- Quote ---Greybeards go on as if this basic stuff is from some other planet.  :-//
--- End quote ---


I as graybeered give example of "poor" HMI based on the GWI1202B here

A most basic selection is trigger source.
It requires  3 "pecks" to get the menu followed by a "screwing around" the Variable knob which has no detents.
Try to align it with the selection.
That really puts me off using it.
 I will let the 17 year old here try it and ask him.

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So you have a bad experience with a single brand and you throw all DSO's by implication into the same group ?

That's like saying all opamps are crap just because you can't get one to work like you want to.

tautech:

--- Quote from: aeg on December 27, 2022, 02:08:34 am ---
--- Quote from: tautech on December 26, 2022, 08:02:25 pm ---Something I don't miss at all with analogue scopes....all the mental arithmetic just to use the scope vs a DSO that when set correctly excludes all that BS and instead lets you focus on the DUT measurement instead.

Pinched from another thread as a fine example:


--- End quote ---

OK, I'll bite... If the DSO excludes all the BS, what's that to the left of the rising edge?

Hint: transcendental functions

--- End quote ---
Gibbs ears, if that's what you mean, DSO's do that too.

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