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mag_therm:

--- Quote from: tautech on December 27, 2022, 02:11:45 am ---
So you have a bad experience with a single brand and you throw all DSO's by implication into the same group ?

That's like saying all opamps are crap just because you can't get one to work like you want to.

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Is SDS1000CML current or obsolete? Looks like I can still buy one.

tautech:

--- Quote from: mag_therm on December 27, 2022, 02:41:56 am ---
--- Quote from: tautech on December 27, 2022, 02:11:45 am ---
So you have a bad experience with a single brand and you throw all DSO's by implication into the same group ?

That's like saying all opamps are crap just because you can't get one to work like you want to.

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Is SDS1000CML current or obsolete? Looks like I can still buy one.

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Current and now a + version with LAN and other stuff I don't remember....maybe a higher res display than earlier models.
We don't bother with them as the SDS1202X-E is too much next level compared to the older CML design.

mag_therm:
Here, SDS1202X-E  is discontinued and replaced  " SDS1202X+ (DISCONTINUED > SEE SDS1000X-E SERIES)"

Any way these things seem all about same price and tarred by the same brush, see page 33 of SDS1000CML manual.
That is same problem I have with excessive menu depth on the GWInstek.
What is your comment on that?

BillyO:

--- Quote from: tautech on December 27, 2022, 01:49:03 am ---Greybeards go on as if this basic stuff is from some other planet.  :-//

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Hey, don't paint us all with the same brush.  @65yo I'm a greybeard, but I still like, understand and use DSOs.  I still love my old CRO too, though.

mag_therm:
To further my argument that these el cheapo basic  DSO have "poor" HMI:
Both of the following oscilloscopes are on the bench here, (along with a Tek 466, not mentioned here).

Audio work, for example,

Eico TR410 1 CH (year about 1963):
Display area ~ 120 by 120 mm circle
Front panel 200 W by 270 H
Approx 23 control positions status all visible

GWI 1202B 2CH (year about 2017):
Display area ~ 120 by 80 mm rectangle
Front panel 380 W by 200 H
Approx 49 control positions status press/not visible plus menus up to 3 deep, too numerous to count, most status not visible.
(There are 6 controls and underlying menus  dedicated for CH2 and Math)

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