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tggzzz:
--- Quote from: tautech on December 27, 2022, 02:11:45 am ---
--- Quote from: mag_therm on December 27, 2022, 02:05:35 am ---tautech said:
--- Quote ---Greybeards go on as if this basic stuff is from some other planet. :-//
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I as graybeered give example of "poor" HMI based on the GWI1202B here
A most basic selection is trigger source.
It requires 3 "pecks" to get the menu followed by a "screwing around" the Variable knob which has no detents.
Try to align it with the selection.
That really puts me off using it.
I will let the 17 year old here try it and ask him.
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So you have a bad experience with a single brand and you throw all DSO's by implication into the same group ?
That's like saying all opamps are crap just because you can't get one to work like you want to.
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All DSOs have that problem in one area or another to a greater or lesser extent.
Opamps all have problems too. It just means you have to carefully select the opamp so that its non-idealities matches your application.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: David Hess on December 27, 2022, 06:44:48 am ---Excessive menu depth has been a problem with modern DSOs, with very few exceptions, since they have existed. That problem is not going away.
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Precisely.
Another problem that's not going away: when someone's salary depends on selling X, it will difficult to get them to acknowledge problems with X.
Classic OT example: try to get a Tesla salesman to show you how to switch on the windscreen demister safely (i.e. without taking your eyes off the road). Last one I asked only managed to switch on the seat heater; previous one had to reconfigure the GUI including dragging heiroglyphs/icons to a taskbar! When they say you don't have to be watching the road all the time because of its "safety" features", try (in vain) to get them to define what "full self driving (beta)" means in terms of what you aren't responsible for when it is engaged
Fungus:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on December 27, 2022, 11:20:46 am ---Classic OT example: try to get a Tesla salesman to show you how to switch on the windscreen demister safely (i.e. without taking your eyes off the road). Last one I asked only managed to switch on the seat heater; previous one had to reconfigure the GUI including dragging heiroglyphs/icons to a taskbar!
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That's because you're asking a stupid question.
The correct way to do it is to press the button then say, "demister on"?
Fungus:
--- Quote from: David Hess on December 27, 2022, 06:44:48 am ---Excessive menu depth has been a problem with modern DSOs, with very few exceptions, since they have existed. That problem is not going away.
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No, but big touch screens with pictures are on the way. The twisty knob interface will be a thing of the past.
(some of us already have them)
David Hess:
--- Quote from: Fungus on December 27, 2022, 12:25:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: David Hess on December 27, 2022, 06:44:48 am ---Excessive menu depth has been a problem with modern DSOs, with very few exceptions, since they have existed. That problem is not going away.
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No, but big touch screens with pictures are on the way. The twisty knob interface will be a thing of the past.
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Along with glossy screens which pick up every fingerprint and massive problems with glare from the windows and office lights.
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