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True analog scopes
robert.rozee:
--- Quote from: mag_therm on December 27, 2022, 02:05:35 am ---
[...] example of "poor" HMI based on the GWI1202B here
[...]
followed by a "screwing around" the Variable knob which has no detents.
Try to align it with the selection.
That really puts me off using it.
[...]
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my Siglent SDS-1104X-E has exactly the same problem with the "multi-function" knob lacking detents. other knobs have detents, why not this one?! this is my single greatest complaint about the scope.
it would be great if Tautech could find out from Siglent an exact mechanical replacement part number that does have detents, and do a detailed video on how best to dismantle the scope and replace the detentless offender.
better yet, to hold stock of replacements for those users that are driven nuts by the detentlessness!
cheers,
rob :-)
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Fungus on December 27, 2022, 12:15:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on December 27, 2022, 11:20:46 am ---Classic OT example: try to get a Tesla salesman to show you how to switch on the windscreen demister safely (i.e. without taking your eyes off the road). Last one I asked only managed to switch on the seat heater; previous one had to reconfigure the GUI including dragging heiroglyphs/icons to a taskbar!
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That's because you're asking a stupid question.
The correct way to do it is to press the button then say, "demister on"?
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After five minutes spent failing to do it with a control, the salesdroid said he could do it with voice control. I said that would be OK with me; he tried, and that's when the seat heater turned on! I didn't bother to ask whether it works just as well while driving and where there's no radio connectivity (think Alexa!)
So, sorry, your suggestion didn't work - and the Tesla failures were worse than you imagined :)
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Fungus on December 27, 2022, 12:25:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: David Hess on December 27, 2022, 06:44:48 am ---Excessive menu depth has been a problem with modern DSOs, with very few exceptions, since they have existed. That problem is not going away.
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No, but big touch screens with pictures are on the way. The twisty knob interface will be a thing of the past.
(some of us already have them)
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I know you were thinking of scopes, but applying that principle to car controls...
And how, exactly, does the driver find the right icon with their fingertip when they have their eyes on the road? They must legally have their eyes on the road, since they are legally responsible. (Tesla droids are practitioners of Orwellian DoubleSpeak: you can simultaneously trust the "full self driving (beta)", but must not trust it to have "full self-driving (beta)" responsibility)
Both Tesla droids had their eyes off the road for enough time to have found a cliff or several children. Perhaps you should pull over and stop when you need to change the demister controls?!
(I haven't had a chance to verify David Hess' point, since I've only tried asking a droid inside a shopping centre! His question is valid, though.)
Fungus:
--- Quote from: fungus ---
--- Quote from: David Hess on December 27, 2022, 01:04:20 pm ---No, but big touch screens with pictures are on the way. The twisty knob interface will be a thing of the past.
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Along with glossy screens which pick up every fingerprint and massive problems with glare from the windows and office lights.
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Mine is matte, doesn't show anything. :-//
eti:
Ah, the tired old trap people never fail to fall into, thinking “the previous generation is old, outdated, rubbish… but quaint”, just because a new generation is “the norm”.
Human foolishness repeats in a loop. They’re both useful, even if you individually cannot perceive why.
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