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| james_s:
--- Quote from: tautech on December 28, 2022, 06:55:20 pm ---I guess you'd have real trouble with the likes of a Pico scope. --- End quote --- Trouble? No, I'm fully capable of operating one, or at least a similar instrument, I just don't like it. I picked up a BitScope about 15 years ago, it was the only DSO I had at the time and it worked ok but it was never really a great experience. I think I gave it to a friend a few years ago, I hadn't used it even once since getting my TDS scope. If it works for you then great, but I've come to the conclusion through experience that I don't like PC based test equipment. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: JPortici on December 28, 2022, 05:06:27 pm ---Well, not the same thing but quite. Actually that reminds me of something that happened this morning :) a maserati decided that the best moment to do a full system update was when idling at a semaphore :-DD the guy freaked out when the idle got up, and the AC started going full blast, then the message appeared on the various screens. The car is updating its software, please do not turn off the car :-DD --- End quote --- Was it a "friend-of-a-friend" that it happened to? I find it hard to believe a car would do any updating while the engine was running. |
| vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: james_s on December 29, 2022, 12:05:16 am --- --- Quote from: tautech on December 28, 2022, 06:55:20 pm ---I guess you'd have real trouble with the likes of a Pico scope. --- End quote --- Trouble? No, I'm fully capable of operating one, or at least a similar instrument, I just don't like it. I picked up a BitScope about 15 years ago, it was the only DSO I had at the time and it worked ok but it was never really a great experience. I think I gave it to a friend a few years ago, I hadn't used it even once since getting my TDS scope. If it works for you then great, but I've come to the conclusion through experience that I don't like PC based test equipment. --- End quote --- Those old Bitscopes were pretty dire. I remember seeing a wildly enthusiastic magazine article on them years ago. Amongst the screenshots shown was one of a line of PAL analog video. The rendition of the colour burst was cringeworthy, to say the least. They didn't attempt a screenshot at field rate! ::) |
| David Hess:
--- Quote from: Fungus on December 27, 2022, 05:19:00 pm --- --- Quote from: fungus --- --- Quote from: David Hess on December 27, 2022, 01:04:20 pm ---Along with glossy screens which pick up every fingerprint and massive problems with glare from the windows and office lights. --- End quote --- Mine is matte, doesn't show anything. :-// --- End quote --- My new old laptop has a matte screen and is pretty good. The two desktop monitors I bought last year have matte screens. --- Quote from: tautech on December 27, 2022, 09:40:58 pm ---Never thought I'd be into them much for test equipment until trying a few and you should be aware a touch based UI is required for a mouse capable instrument. Some instruments respond to touch, front panel controls and a mouse, including the scroll wheel and use of all 3 once you get in tune with it is much much faster than use of any of their individual input mediums. Sadly until you spend some time with an instrument with this sort of capability you would never know. --- End quote --- I know that the last thing my workbench needs is a dedicated keyboard and mouse for an oscilloscope, or other test instrument, taking up more space. --- Quote from: H713 on December 28, 2022, 02:07:59 am ---In general, the fewer buttons I have to push to take a measurement, the better. The more satisfying the knobs / switches are, the less likely I am to be annoyed by using them. Configuring a Tektronix 547 is very satisfying and it's rare that I will be annoyed while using one, even if I have to think a little harder to accomplish a measurement. Pushing soft buttons (that beep with every push!) on a Siglent is the opposite situation. --- End quote --- There was a lot of optimization by the time of the 547 to reduce the number of needed controls. The 545 was one of the first true "modern" oscilloscopes and the 547 was the ultimate 545. --- End quote --- |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: David Hess on December 30, 2022, 06:35:31 pm --- --- Quote from: tautech on December 27, 2022, 09:40:58 pm ---Never thought I'd be into them much for test equipment until trying a few and you should be aware a touch based UI is required for a mouse capable instrument. Some instruments respond to touch, front panel controls and a mouse, including the scroll wheel and use of all 3 once you get in tune with it is much much faster than use of any of their individual input mediums. Sadly until you spend some time with an instrument with this sort of capability you would never know. --- End quote --- I know that the last thing my workbench needs is a dedicated keyboard and mouse for an oscilloscope, or other test instrument, taking up more space. --- End quote --- Unless you're into a lot of annotating the inbuilt virtual qwerty keyboards that you use with a mouse click or touch work just fine. Numeric boxes can be changed with a mouse scrollwheel or clicked to bring up a virtual keypad. I've now spent a bit of time using DSO's with touch and mouse and best/fastest performance is gained using all 3 input mediums with screen touch actually the least used. When done the wireless mouse can sit on the shelf alongside the scope.......zero bench real estate is lost, zero. All you doubters really need get yourself in front of one. |
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