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nctnico:

--- Quote from: jasonRF on December 28, 2022, 05:54:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on December 27, 2022, 05:59:18 am ---But the problem is that you don't know whether something really works until you tested it yourself.

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As others have noted, if you are purchasing something with the intent of keeping it, then there is no moral issue with returning it if it doesn't really work or if it has some issue that is a big deal to you.  The OP proposed purchasing multiple competing items with the intent of returning all but one of them, which is a completely different thing.  That would go against my moral code, but to each their own. 

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But what is the difference between testing one at a time and several at the same time? I doubt anyone is going to order stuff with the intend of not keeping a single item but it all depends on whether the requirements are met. In the end the real problem is lack of proper specifications coming from the manufacturer. Typically the lower cost test equipment is a moving target anyway due to firmware updates adding new features and new bugs.

I agree with the notion of 'sticking it to Amazon'. Whatever cost is incurred on their side, will result in price rises but as I have written before: there is a huge margin on these products to begin with. Amazon is also dealing with parcels getting lost, DOAs, etc; you pay for that as well and it is still cheaper compared to insured shipping.

Fungus:

--- Quote from: jasonRF on December 28, 2022, 05:54:50 pm ---As others have noted, if you are purchasing something with the intent of keeping it, then there is no moral issue with returning it if it doesn't really work or if it has some issue that is a big deal to you.  The OP proposed purchasing multiple competing items with the intent of returning all but one of them, which is a completely different thing.  That would go against my moral code, but to each their own. 

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Yep. It's the intent that counts. If you're doing something that you know will cost somebody else money then it's not much different from theft even if it's legal to do it.

dorkshoei:

--- Quote from: nctnico on December 28, 2022, 06:09:43 pm ---
But what is the difference between testing one at a time and several at the same time?

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Are retailers offering a testing service?  No.    As already said 10x the issue (this was phased as a "moral" question) is your intent.   

You have some atypical purchasing ideas IMO.   Plus comparing TE to the online clothing industry is an odd comparison.

I do agree that the budget sellers do a poor job of describing their products on Amazon.    I don't think Siglent would however fall into this category plus as already said,  there is Youtube (and EEVBlog) where you can watch detailed product tear-down and eval videos.   

I have never needed to buy N items to evaluate and return N-1 but then I don't buy my clothes online either :-)

nctnico:

--- Quote from: dorkshoei on December 28, 2022, 06:17:16 pm ---I do agree that the budget sellers do a poor job of describing their products on Amazon.    I don't think Siglent would however fall into this category plus as already said,  there is Youtube (and EEVBlog) where you can watch detailed product tear-down and eval videos.   

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I doubt you ever bought a piece of test equipment for serious use otherwise you'd known that Youtube is a far cry from a good source of information for test equipment. Youtube only helps to find out what is out there. Nothing more. And a teardown says absolutely ZERO about the useability of a piece of test equipment for a certain purpose.

dorkshoei:

--- Quote from: nctnico on December 28, 2022, 06:19:50 pm ---I doubt you ever bought a piece of test equipment for serious use otherwise you'd known that Youtube is a far cry from a good source of information for test equipment.

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So you're buying for "serious use" from budget manufacturers who provide little product information.   Got it ;-)

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