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Offline BThunderW

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UltraDMM 2.0
« on: May 21, 2020, 02:46:07 pm »
Hi Everyone,

It's been a while. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but here goes.

Some of you might remember the original UltraDMM software http://www.ultradmm.com/About.aspx that I wrote about 6 years ago. Due to some real life events I was forced put the project on hold for an extended period of time. This year I've decided to rebuild it from scratch and make it a lot more usable. Since the beginning of the year, we've been working hard on making version 2 come to life and we're getting close to releasing the first beta version.

Now that it's been a few years since the last release, I'm curious to know what are the popular multi-meters out there that we should add support for. The new version will support all the existing multi-meters from the original: http://www.ultradmm.com/SupportedMeters.aspx but we want to add support for additional, more current ones. Any meter that offers USB, Serial port, Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be a candidate for integration.

This software would not be possible if it wasn't for this fantastic forum and the great feedback I've received the last time I worked on this. I hope that this will be the case again where we can count on your feedback to make this software amazing.

Also, to any current UltraDMM users, we would love to hear feedback on how we can make this software better and more intuitive based on your experience with the original. Any suggestion and/or criticism is welcome and will be used to build an awesome tool.

Cheers,

Tom




 
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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2020, 04:45:07 pm »
How about joining forces with

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/program-that-can-log-from-many-multimeters/

to reuse the DMM resp. instrument definition files for your GUI? Could save a lot of work and provide an immediate boost as to the number of modern instruments supported. :phew:
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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2020, 04:49:17 pm »
Or even better use the Sigrok framework:
https://sigrok.org/wiki/Supported_hardware
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2020, 05:37:52 pm »
How about joining forces with

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/program-that-can-log-from-many-multimeters/

to reuse the DMM resp. instrument definition files for your GUI? Could save a lot of work and provide an immediate boost as to the number of modern instruments supported. :phew:

Or even better use the Sigrok framework:
https://sigrok.org/wiki/Supported_hardware


Those are awesome suggestions, thank you. UltraDMM was actually inspired by Sigrok back in the day. Our solution is cloud based so you'll be able to monitor your test equipment remotely and we will be releasing the "sender" part of the app that collects meter data as open source so developers will be able to add, build and run their own meters over time.
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2020, 06:48:56 pm »
Cloud based might not be everybody's cup of tea, is there a standalone option?
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2020, 09:39:39 pm »
There will be a standalone option eventually. But in order to best offer cross-platform compatibility and the ability to monitor and analyze the data from anywhere, cloud was an obvious route. The communication protocol will be published and client side app will be open sourced so that anybody can create an app and to alleviate any privacy concerns.

Cloud based might not be everybody's cup of tea, is there a standalone option?
 
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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2020, 07:53:38 am »
I can see lots of reasons for cloud-based but +1 for standalone, and of course both would be cool.  Great to see you back.  Your perseverance and new version / vision / approach including your openness to soliciting input and possibly joining forces or aligning with other initiatives is all very admirable.  Whatever path you take, Good Luck!
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2020, 09:41:20 am »
Many reasons to forget cloud idea

1) You can't run without an internet
2) It's not stable over time, you depend on someone maintain a cloud server, That may not be viable for the long run

One exe is clear and stable if you don't change OS will run forever
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2020, 11:57:06 am »
We're a very small team, so we can currently only focus on small aspects of the software at a time. The hosting isn't a problem, been doing it for 15 years, we have the resources to host this indefinitely. That being said, if the worst were to happen, we'd just open source the whole platform instead of letting it die. Although I'm certain it won't come to that, especially since with your feedback we can build an amazing product.

Ideally we want to have a Desktop and mobile cross platform system, accessible from anywhere. But it takes time to get there.
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2020, 12:20:22 pm »
Why not simply use VNC? Well tried and tested as to remote access with no additional third party server dependence.
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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2020, 12:39:04 pm »
Mostly because we're trying to build a system that doesn't require any technical knowledge of firewalls, NAT or computers in general. But once we have the standalone, that would be an option for you as well.

Why not simply use VNC? Well tried and tested as to remote access with no additional third party server dependence.
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2020, 02:36:34 pm »
+1 for standalone
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2020, 03:17:35 pm »
Haha, I sense overwhelming support for standalone mode. I think it'll be prudent to focus on that during the next iteration of development :D
 
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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2020, 04:16:50 pm »
Haha, I sense overwhelming support for standalone mode. I think it'll be prudent to focus on that during the next iteration of development :D

Lol, Thanks!  :-+
Are you also planning to add support for old equipment?
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2020, 07:16:19 pm »
Haha, I sense overwhelming support for standalone mode. I think it'll be prudent to focus on that during the next iteration of development :D

Another LOL :)   .... good decision to focus first on the standalone :)
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2020, 10:03:25 pm »
you see, there is someone from third world country here who has very limited access to so called internet, someone who fears of the leaked privacy of the data he collects using some online app, and there is also someone who cannot afford to buy an internet connection so you should give stand alone app more priority than the cloud one...and hosting the app will of course cost you money except you will charge anyone who will use your app :popcorn:
« Last Edit: May 23, 2020, 10:04:57 pm by e0ne199 »
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2020, 01:48:30 am »
Dear Tom,

I like the interface and functions of UltraDMM very much. Recently, I got a Victor 86E DMM, however, it seems that it is hard to get it work with PC. Is it possible to add support to Victor 86E DMM? I got the information that Victor 86E is equipped with a ES51932 chip rather than ES51922 for RS232 communication. I checked the Chinese version of the communication protocol for Victor 86E, it agrees very well with the ES51932 chip. Attached are the driver and communication protocol (the PDF file, Page20-25).

Looking forward to your reply.

Best regards,
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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2020, 01:24:41 pm »
I downloaded the spec. Will see what we can do in the upcoming version as the old version of UltraDMM is no longer maintained.
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2020, 04:39:50 am »
Hi.

I have a UT61E with Bluetooth adapter HC-05.

With the original Uni-T software it works normally, but with UltraDMM it does not. If using USB with UltraDMM it works.

I believe it is a problem in activating the Bluetooth COM port or something.

Can you solve the problem in the new version?

Thank you.
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2020, 05:50:55 pm »
I'm very interested too, not in the cloud solution (in any form), but YES in a remote control in an internal ethernet network. But, to clarify if I really will be interested, which advantages has this new software version over Sigrok? My only DMMs with communication port are all Agilent series (I did buy these for compatibility, for an unique software control).
 

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Re: UltraDMM 2.0
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2020, 02:48:38 pm »
Unfortunately, the cloud solution is what we're building first, adding a local version 2nd. That's what makes us different from Sigrok. We want the UI to be completely web based rather than a desktop/console app. The development of UltraDMM stalled somewhat on the account of the coronavirus severely limiting our funding, but we're still pressing ahead, but at a slower pace.
 


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