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sonpul:

--- Quote from: BillyO on July 20, 2023, 06:18:36 pm ---.3% on a 60000 count meter?  That's just silly.  +/-180 counts?  :palm:

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As they say, it's written on the fence. Reality is different.
I see that UT117C has 0.02%-0.03% accuracy.
mwb1100:

--- Quote from: sonpul on July 21, 2023, 05:15:47 am ---As they say, it's written on the fence.

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Sorry for going off topic, but I don't recognize that idiom.  Is that a literal translation of an idiom from another language?
ledtester:

--- Quote from: mwb1100 on July 21, 2023, 06:13:01 am ---
--- Quote from: sonpul on July 21, 2023, 05:15:47 am ---As they say, it's written on the fence.

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Sorry for going off topic, but I don't recognize that idiom.  Is that a literal translation of an idiom from another language?

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I was curious too so I did some investigating. Given that the poster was from Ukraine I had Google translate "it's written on the fence" into Ukrainian: "На паркані написано".

Doing a web search for that phrase resulted in a lot of hits so it appeared that it was indeed a common expression / idiom. Translating some of those search results gave me a sense of what it meant but nothing definitive.

Finally I decided to ask Google Bard (i.e. Google's ChatGPT) for an explanation of the idiom and it responded with:


--- Quote ---Звичайно. Український ідіом "На паркані написано" означає, що щось дуже очевидне і не потребує пояснення. Він часто використовується, щоб виразити своє розчарування з кимось, хто не розуміє чогось, що, як вам здається, очевидно. Наприклад, якщо ви говорите з кимось про важливу подію, яка недавно відбулася, а вони просять вас пояснити, що сталося, ви можете сказати: "На паркані написано!" Це означає, що інформація вже доступна, і немає необхідності пояснювати її ще раз.

Ідіом "На паркані написано" також може використовуватися в більш жартівливому ключі. Наприклад, якщо ви бачите когось, хто робить щось дурне, ви можете сказати: "На паркані написано!" Це означає, що людина повинна була знати краще, і немає потреби пояснювати їй, що вона робить неправильно.

Ідіом "На паркані написано" - це корисний спосіб висловити своє розчарування або жарт з кимось, хто не розуміє чогось, що, як вам здається, очевидно.

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which translated is:


--- Quote ---Of course. The Ukrainian idiom "It's written on the fence" means that something is very obvious and needs no explanation. It is often used to express your frustration with someone who doesn't understand something you think is obvious. For example, if you're talking to someone about an important event that happened recently, and they ask you to explain what happened, you might say, "It's written on the fence!" This means that the information is already available and there is no need to explain it again.

The idiom "It's written on the fence" can also be used in a more humorous way. For example, if you see someone doing something stupid, you might say, "It's written on the fence!" This means that the person should have known better, and there is no need to explain to them what they are doing wrong.

The idiom "It's written on the fence" is a useful way to express your frustration or joke with someone who doesn't understand something you think is obvious.

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Perhaps native speakers can comment on the accuracy of this explanation.
CosteC:

--- Quote from: sonpul on July 21, 2023, 05:15:47 am ---
--- Quote from: BillyO on July 20, 2023, 06:18:36 pm ---.3% on a 60000 count meter?  That's just silly.  +/-180 counts?  :palm:

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As they say, it's written on the fence. Reality is different.
I see that UT117C has 0.02%-0.03% accuracy.

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NO.
UT117C has 0.3% DCV accuracy. https://meters.uni-trend.com/product/ut117c/
It is stupid high resolution, 0.3% DCV meter. Well build, with couple of nice features like BT. Extra digit or two does not make it more accurate.
Short term accuracy and staiblity is far better than 0.3% - but same is true for any decent meter.
Possibly Uni-Trend is planning other model in same box with increased accuracy, even on "the same" hardware. Thier sweet secret however will be how they select and age references or exact tolerances and quality of components.
sonpul:

--- Quote from: mwb1100 on July 21, 2023, 06:13:01 am ---
--- Quote from: sonpul on July 21, 2023, 05:15:47 am ---As they say, it's written on the fence.

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Sorry for going off topic, but I don't recognize that idiom.  Is that a literal translation of an idiom from another language?

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Sorry for initiating an offtopic. The phrase “It is written on the fence” says that you can write anything without any responsibility and correspondence to reality.

There is also a vulgar definition. When hooligans write in large letters on the fence the word for the sexual organ, and behind the fence they will not find either the sexual organ or sex, even if you believe it.  “***** is written on the fence, and there is ordinary firewood”
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