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US$150 Class Multimeter
« on: October 25, 2019, 03:39:50 am »
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What's the current go for the sub US$150 meter market in terms of 60,000 counts, 0.05% DC, as good as 0.06% ohms, and 0.075% current?
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2019, 03:54:42 am »
60,000 for $150?  :-//
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2019, 04:01:51 am »
60,000 for $150?  :-//

Yep, I want to know what is available in that price category. The Brymen BM867 comes close but is in the $170 range.
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 04:04:05 am »
Well not only do I not know of a go to but I don't know of any.
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 04:05:48 am »
Can't find anything that does 60,000 count for less than $350.
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2019, 04:06:09 am »
Well not only do I not know of a go to but I don't know of any.

That's what I want to know, because I could potentially sell one for under US$150
 
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2019, 04:06:57 am »
Can't find anything that does 60,000 count for less than $350.

Even my 121GW is only US$200
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2019, 04:07:57 am »
In case you haven't figured it out, I fishing to see if it's worthwhile stocking a US$150 class meter in addition to my $100 class BM235 and $200 class 121GW.
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2019, 04:08:47 am »
Well not only do I not know of a go to but I don't know of any.

That's what I want to know, because I could potentially sell one for under US$150

I bet they already have that here in the Middle Kingdom -  just have to do a search
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2019, 04:09:14 am »
For $150 I think it's your own market, but I don't know if that's a lucrative market. Is $50 a big enough difference for people to get it over the 121GW? Also I don't know if a reliable source for brymen in the US without a large markup. Other than the 235 from you.
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2019, 04:19:49 am »
For $150 I think it's your own market, but I don't know if that's a lucrative market. Is $50 a big enough difference for people to get it over the 121GW?

Yeah, that's the trick.
Although this one is more rugged and higher CAT rating than the 121GW, so more suited if you wanted a rugged field meter for example, and it has EVF detection. The 121GW is more of a lab meter.
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2019, 04:23:09 am »
For $150 I think it's your own market, but I don't know if that's a lucrative market. Is $50 a big enough difference for people to get it over the 121GW?

Yeah, that's the trick.
Although this one is more rugged and higher CAT rating than the 121GW, so more suited if you wanted a rugged field meter for example. The 121GW is more of a lab meter.

That could be interesting then. I haven't bought a 121GW because I do need "tough" meters.
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2019, 04:27:16 am »
That could be interesting then. I haven't bought a 121GW because I do need "tough" meters.

That's what I figured some people might want.
A rugged field meter but with EVF (no LowZ though) and lab-like resolution and accuracy at a price not a lot more than the BM235.
 

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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2019, 01:41:52 pm »
Can't find anything that does 60,000 count for less than $350.

There's a couple of Brymens that do 50,000 for half that, and they can switch to 500,000 counts in DC voltage mode.
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2019, 01:43:06 pm »
Yep, I want to know what is available in that price category. The Brymen BM867 comes close but is in the $170 range.

I don't think you can do better than that Brymen.

Edit: ...although I think the old-school BM857s looks tougher and more "industrial" than those new curvy models. The screen is more recessed, etc.

(and, yes, they've fixed the backlight on the 857  ;D )
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2019, 02:28:14 pm »
I will be starting to talk in my family to buy one more dmm in the room space ;D
 
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2020, 03:03:19 am »
Now adding optional Bluetooth and upgradeable firmware...
 
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2020, 02:15:36 am »
Just another datapoint from CEM: DT9969
http://www.cem-instruments.com/en/Product/detail/id/979

I agree with Fungus that the BM857/859 are quite capable and seem reasonably "rugged", although not to the level of a 28II.

Why such massive number of counts for the field? Also, would connectivity be really killer? Unless you want to play in the processmeter arena...
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2020, 02:28:23 am »
Just another datapoint from CEM: DT9969
http://www.cem-instruments.com/en/Product/detail/id/979

This one will be streets ahead of the DT-9969, although it won't be dust and waterproof.
Also it may turn out to be cheaper. Although I don't know what the future Bluetooth one will sell for.

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I agree with Fungus that the BM857/859 are quite capable and seem reasonably "rugged", although not to the level of a 28II.

The BM859 is really old design.

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Why such massive number of counts for the field? Also, would connectivity be really killer? Unless you want to play in the processmeter arena...

Why counts? Because meters can have dual use.
Usually you don't need 60,000 counts, 0.05% DC, 0.06% ohms, and 0.075% current for the field, but it's nice to have for the lab.
This product has now been a little bit delayed because the option of a Bluetooth footprint is being added, so that that capability can be added in a future model without a design or safety re-certification presumably. They wanted to slip it in before sending for UL testing. I have asked if the firmware can support it and if users can then simply solder in their own Bluetooth module, that's a maybe  :-+
 
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Re: US$150 Class Multimeter
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2020, 02:39:45 am »
Just another datapoint from CEM: DT9969
http://www.cem-instruments.com/en/Product/detail/id/979

I agree with Fungus that the BM857/859 are quite capable and seem reasonably "rugged", although not to the level of a 28II.

Why such massive number of counts for the field? Also, would connectivity be really killer? Unless you want to play in the processmeter arena...

I have been using the EX540 (DT9939) for about 8 years now and bought one to transient test that had a problem.   That 900MHz radio has been used in places that Bluetooth would never work.   The bargraph is pointless but I do like that tri-display, plus it has all the basic features.   The best deal was when a company was selling them for $120 with free shipping.  A few friends bought them before they sold out.   

I wouldn't mind getting the DT9959 to run.     
 
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