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US Export restrictions on Oscilloscopes to Hungary
bitbanger:
Hi Folks -
Anyone delve into the maddening world of export restrictions? I'm wondering if the export of an oscilloscope to Hungary (personal sale) is restricted from the US. From ITAR/EAR training I had a long time ago I'm pretty sure a 'scope is considered 'high technology' and thus considered subject to EAR... You would think that this would be easy information to find in this day and age ("we have the technology") but after exhaustive searching and reading on various US sites, including DHS border protection, I can't find any conclusive answer.
Any thoughts? I'd rather skip a potential sale at the risk of something getting held up in customs.
Keysight DanielBogdanoff:
In my experience, it generally depends on the bandwidth of the scope. Unless you're buying something crazy high bandwidth (>60 GHz) it won't get held up for those reasons. I'd be more concerned with getting hit with import taxes/duties that you weren't expecting, those can often be nasty.
Your safest bet is probably to buy from a local distributor instead of going the private sale/ebay route. But, that's definitely not the only option.
YetAnotherTechie:
If it's restricted it will show in the customs tariff table. you can also contact the manufacturer mentioning the model and SN and ask what are the Export Control Classification Numbers (ECCNs) and Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS) for the specific unit (which you need to know anyway to fill the customs forms). In my experience sending an email with "Export Control Classification Number" in the subject will get you a fast reply from support people...
bitbanger:
Thanks to both - I should have been more clear this would be me selling to a Hungary resident. Complicating matters also was that I was considering using eBay's "Global Shipping Program". This still requires the seller assure the item is exportable prior to shipping to the GSP hub. The problem I've found (since discovered after reading some eBay forums) is that the GSP folks may very well decide because it is export controlled, and nix the sale and return the item to me (worst case). Because they (Pittney Bowes is the administrator of the program) are the ones then on the hook for the legality of re-shipping it, they are sometimes overly cautious
Anyway seems like more trouble than it's worth.
bitbanger:
Super helpful info - thanks. I had read the commerce doc (and by read I mean searched for keywords and skimmed it) but wasn't sure how to relate it to specific country. Guess (some of) us Yankees don't deal with exporting enough to understand/decode the system. :D
If I were directly shipping, I may heed your advice and press on. However because it's up to the interpretation of Pittney Bowes, I don't want to risk it. I've heard they (global shipping program) sometimes will refund the buyer, let seller keep the payment, and even resell the item domestically. However for "high dollar" items I'm betting they would straight up return the scope to me. I don't feel like being surprised two months from now having to refund >$1k, you know?
Anyway I know I'll likely face this again so thanks again for the info everyone.
Has anyone else dealt with eBays GSP as related to electronic test & meas. equipment? Success/horror stories?
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