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Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« on: October 16, 2016, 02:05:20 pm »
Is there a bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?

If so, is it a license key only, or is an additional hardware change/hack required?
 

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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2016, 02:14:23 pm »
In principle, no. But if it is one of the latest versions then maybe.
You'll have to disassemble it to see it's front end.  :-/O
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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2016, 03:00:29 pm »
But if it is one of the latest versions then maybe.
You'll have to disassemble it to see it's front end.  :-/O
Can you say if you know the SN?
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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2016, 03:32:24 pm »
Can you say if you have the SN?
Unfortunately no, sorry. And no idea at what point they started to using the new ASIC on the 5000/6000 and 7000 series.
Furthermore is not clear if they used it on the latest DSO/MSO 501xA, 601xA and 701xA/B, as they do on the DSO/MSO X-200xA series, or latest MSO7034B (take a look to the next link).

We need to see inside. for example:

If your DSO6014A have four of these (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/keysight-mso7034b-teardown-and-repair/msg964822/#msg964822) then no problem, you can tweak it to achieve a BW of 500 MHz and 4GSPS, easily. Ie, you got a DSO6054A.

But if you see something like this (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/agilent-mso-500060007000-anyone-hacked-these-scopes/msg378397/#msg378397) ... Bad luck.

DSOX2002A front end: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/dsox2000-and-3000-series-licence-have-anyone-tried-to-hack-that-scope/msg1019455/#msg1019455 .

Just in case not clear yet: The BW upgrade is only possible via a hardware hack.

Cheers.

Edited again in order to clarify the issue a bit more and to correct an error.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 01:32:14 pm by Carrington »
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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2016, 08:09:32 pm »
Thank you!

There's really no way to find out without opening the case?
No hardware revision info on screen or something similar?
 

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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2016, 01:36:16 pm »
Thank you!
You are welcome.  :)

There's really no way to find out without opening the case?
Perhaps looking through the lower ventilation grille.

No hardware revision info on screen or something similar?
Sure, but, I don't have that information.
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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2017, 10:03:21 pm »
We need to see inside. for example:

If your DSO6014A have four of these (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/keysight-mso7034b-teardown-and-repair/msg964822/#msg964822) then no problem, you can tweak it to achieve a BW of 500 MHz and 4GSPS, easily. Ie, you got a DSO6054A.

I did the license upgrade to my 7014A long ago, but there was a comment somewhere (I think from Mike) that the 100MHz units were very different from the higher bandwidth ones and couldn't be upgraded.

But mine does look like the photos of High Voltage's 7034B. It has the QFN input parts and 5 heatsinks.

I've looked through the threads but the only specific instructions I've found were for a DSOX3000 : it consisted of some changes to the input components and some link changes. The input components look similar but links are, I think, different : there are some notes about link settings on the various 5/6/7000 boards but I didn't find a complete list that included the 7000 series.

Can someone point me to the description of the 6014A upgrade please, or to any other postings that help ? 
 

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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 10:26:04 pm »
Post some good pictures of the front end with the shield removed.
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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2018, 07:16:36 pm »
I have a MSO6014A and wonder were can I find infos how I do the bandwidth upgrade. Here are some pictures.
 

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Re: Bandwidth upgrade for Agilent DSO6014A?
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2020, 11:45:32 am »
...no idea at what point they started to using the new ASIC on the 5000/6000 and 7000 series.
Furthermore is not clear if they used it on the latest DSO/MSO 501xA, 601xA and 701xA/B, as they do on the DSO/MSO X-200xA series, or latest MSO7034B (take a look to the next link).

We need to see inside. for example:

If your DSO6014A have four of these (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/keysight-mso7034b-teardown-and-repair/msg964822/#msg964822) then no problem, you can tweak it to achieve a BW of 500 MHz and 4GSPS, easily. Ie, you got a DSO6054A.

But if you see something like this (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/agilent-mso-500060007000-anyone-hacked-these-scopes/msg378397/#msg378397) ... Bad luck.

DSOX2002A front end: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/dsox2000-and-3000-series-licence-have-anyone-tried-to-hack-that-scope/msg1019455/#msg1019455 .

Just in case not clear yet: The BW upgrade is only possible via a hardware hack.

Cheers.

What is the exact criteria if BW upgrade is possible or not?

- 4 or 5 big heat sinks?
- Front end circuitry (which ASIC is required)?

What's the hardware hack exactly?
Just setting jumpers (resistors) or/and changing/shorting anti-aliasing filter components?
« Last Edit: November 09, 2020, 12:07:05 pm by Greybeard »
 


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