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What does "Average Type" Refer To in Siglent SVA1032X "BW" Menu ???
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noisyee:

--- Quote from: starlite4321 on September 21, 2024, 02:48:01 am ---Thanks for the response noisyee.
I'm not surprised it's caused a lot of confusion.  Wouldn't it be nice if Siglent made any effort at all to explain it ?
Regarding your comment, "It's an additional IF signal process when Trace Average is ON.", then why does "Average Type" effect traces even when Trace Average is off ?

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Checked again, manual says it will affect not only trace average but also detect average. That make sense because the Average Type is processed before detect and trace display.
My assumption is there is no other proper menu to place the Average Type, cause it will affect every trace and both Trace Average and Detect Average. Placed in BW menu is confusion, but at least it's a global setting. :palm:
starlite4321:
Hi noisyee,  thanks for another reply.

Yeah, you're right, you can see the effects of "Average Type" in all the detect types all the time.  So it makes sense to put the control for it in a generic menu like BW from that point of view.

But it still doesn't explain what's actually happening.  What "averaging" is happening and where it is happening and for what reason ?  "Averaging" is not part of a basic (meaning averaging wasn't explicitly selected by the user) signal analyzer processing chain.  And again, even Siglent says the "Average Type" indicator will only show up when averaging is selected, which is not actually TRUE !  It always shows up as far as I can see.  So it's still not clear what's going on.  I can guess there's some averaging happening at the pre-detector stage or the post-detector stage or even as part of the detector function, but that's just guessing.  And I don't WANT it to always be averaging.  I want to be able to turn that off !

Anyway, thanks again for checking your Chinese manual noisyee.  At least it seems to provide a little more info than the US manual does.  If only I'd bought this from a competent, honest dealer with actual technical support.
tautech:
The doc member Someone linked under Average Detection explains much......but why HPAK waffles on about buckets instead of Bins is a new one to me.
https://www.keysight.com/blogs/en/tech/rfmw/2020/07/31/spectrum-analysis-basics-part-3-detector-types
Someone:

--- Quote from: tautech on September 21, 2024, 08:15:14 pm ---The doc member Someone linked under Average Detection explains much......but why HPAK waffles on about buckets instead of Bins is a new one to me.
https://www.keysight.com/blogs/en/tech/rfmw/2020/07/31/spectrum-analysis-basics-part-3-detector-types

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The entire chain is a hold over from historical implementations, to maintain backwards compatibility with existing procedures/tests. It could be much simpler and more useful. Some users aren't particularly technical so I can see where a dumbed down bins/buckets explanation was needed.
starlite4321:
Thanks for the comment tautach.

Yeah, I read through this when it was posted here.  It's just yet another simplified explanation of how SAs work.  The internet is full of them.  I'm not sure there's that much in it that isn't already in the not-too-great Siglent manual itself.  Unfortunately, it doesn't explain this question at all.  noisyee commented that he's seeing that this setting has caused a lot of confusion.  I wish Siglent would simply explain it somewhere.  The manual would be the obvious place.  And of course, if I'd bought it from any competent retailer instead of Liberty Test Equipment, they could use their influence to get the question past Siglent's useless customer support to someone at the factory who actually knows what they're doing.  Unfortunately ...  I'm sure feeling the case for paying the price to buy test equipment from name brand companies through major retailers, that's for sure.
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