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So now I get to look into what it would take to measure slew rate accurately...
Quote from: Someone on December 30, 2024, 06:05:08 amQuote from: ballsystemlord on December 30, 2024, 05:15:09 amQuote from: Someone on December 30, 2024, 02:57:55 amQuote from: David Hess on December 29, 2024, 01:05:06 amYou can calculate it based on that parallel RC element in series with the protection network. I have done this before and gotten results pretty close to the safe overload specifications. The protection diodes can handle up to a given amount of average current which defines the derating versus frequency.In practice the input will withstand way more than 36 volts peak-to-peak at *any* input attenuator setting.Having looked rather carefully at such matters I'd want to see the schematic (and part sizes) of the specific front end before waving away "any input attenuator setting". For the older 1054 it was an attenuator part that was the first limiting factor in frequency derating:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1202z-e-input-voltage-vs-frequency-derating/Dave has already done a teardown. Here is the album and I think I found the frontend picture for you.https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/albums/72157701904033821/with/45805998381https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/45805998381/in/album-72157701904033821Why for me?Because you literally just said you wanted to see, "the specific front end..." so now you can see it.
Quote from: ballsystemlord on December 30, 2024, 05:15:09 amQuote from: Someone on December 30, 2024, 02:57:55 amQuote from: David Hess on December 29, 2024, 01:05:06 amYou can calculate it based on that parallel RC element in series with the protection network. I have done this before and gotten results pretty close to the safe overload specifications. The protection diodes can handle up to a given amount of average current which defines the derating versus frequency.In practice the input will withstand way more than 36 volts peak-to-peak at *any* input attenuator setting.Having looked rather carefully at such matters I'd want to see the schematic (and part sizes) of the specific front end before waving away "any input attenuator setting". For the older 1054 it was an attenuator part that was the first limiting factor in frequency derating:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1202z-e-input-voltage-vs-frequency-derating/Dave has already done a teardown. Here is the album and I think I found the frontend picture for you.https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/albums/72157701904033821/with/45805998381https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/45805998381/in/album-72157701904033821Why for me?
Quote from: Someone on December 30, 2024, 02:57:55 amQuote from: David Hess on December 29, 2024, 01:05:06 amYou can calculate it based on that parallel RC element in series with the protection network. I have done this before and gotten results pretty close to the safe overload specifications. The protection diodes can handle up to a given amount of average current which defines the derating versus frequency.In practice the input will withstand way more than 36 volts peak-to-peak at *any* input attenuator setting.Having looked rather carefully at such matters I'd want to see the schematic (and part sizes) of the specific front end before waving away "any input attenuator setting". For the older 1054 it was an attenuator part that was the first limiting factor in frequency derating:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1202z-e-input-voltage-vs-frequency-derating/Dave has already done a teardown. Here is the album and I think I found the frontend picture for you.https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/albums/72157701904033821/with/45805998381https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/45805998381/in/album-72157701904033821
Quote from: David Hess on December 29, 2024, 01:05:06 amYou can calculate it based on that parallel RC element in series with the protection network. I have done this before and gotten results pretty close to the safe overload specifications. The protection diodes can handle up to a given amount of average current which defines the derating versus frequency.In practice the input will withstand way more than 36 volts peak-to-peak at *any* input attenuator setting.Having looked rather carefully at such matters I'd want to see the schematic (and part sizes) of the specific front end before waving away "any input attenuator setting". For the older 1054 it was an attenuator part that was the first limiting factor in frequency derating:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1202z-e-input-voltage-vs-frequency-derating/
You can calculate it based on that parallel RC element in series with the protection network. I have done this before and gotten results pretty close to the safe overload specifications. The protection diodes can handle up to a given amount of average current which defines the derating versus frequency.In practice the input will withstand way more than 36 volts peak-to-peak at *any* input attenuator setting.
Quote from: ballsystemlord on December 30, 2024, 01:30:57 pmQuote from: Someone on December 30, 2024, 06:05:08 amQuote from: ballsystemlord on December 30, 2024, 05:15:09 amQuote from: Someone on December 30, 2024, 02:57:55 amQuote from: David Hess on December 29, 2024, 01:05:06 amYou can calculate it based on that parallel RC element in series with the protection network. I have done this before and gotten results pretty close to the safe overload specifications. The protection diodes can handle up to a given amount of average current which defines the derating versus frequency.In practice the input will withstand way more than 36 volts peak-to-peak at *any* input attenuator setting.Having looked rather carefully at such matters I'd want to see the schematic (and part sizes) of the specific front end before waving away "any input attenuator setting". For the older 1054 it was an attenuator part that was the first limiting factor in frequency derating:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1202z-e-input-voltage-vs-frequency-derating/Dave has already done a teardown. Here is the album and I think I found the frontend picture for you.https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/albums/72157701904033821/with/45805998381https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/45805998381/in/album-72157701904033821Why for me?Because you literally just said you wanted to see, "the specific front end..." so now you can see it.So where is the schematic?