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When A brands sell B brand equipment.
JPortici:
--- Quote from: Martin72 on November 10, 2022, 01:09:00 am ---They´re more lecroy style with all the pros and cons...
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Like the zoom out quirk? ::)
jesus christ what people fixate on..
rf-loop:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on November 10, 2022, 08:13:15 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on November 10, 2022, 05:56:24 am ---
--- Quote from: Martin72 on November 10, 2022, 01:09:00 am ---First of all, I wouldn´t call siglent (AND rigol) as B brands nowadays...
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Doesn't matter what you think, or how good the devices they manufacture are.
The big corporations aren't full of Rigols and Siglents and there's plenty of people out there who'll never get past the "made in China" sticker.
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Wrong.
And Wrong.
In your defense, you would be right even 10 years ago.
But there had been changes in that in last 10 years. Their devices are good enough and are being bought in large numbers by both small and very large organizations. Corporate types love a good save, too. The drunken millionaire purchasing works only for USA large military contracts and such. And where "patriotic technology" is prefered, for all kinds of reasons..
Problem is that human's habitual perceptions are very long term... People keep repeating statements that stopped being true long ago..It is evolutionary part our survival instinct.. A fruit that was once poisonous stays poisonous forever. And we tell others not to eat it and they listen. This is the mechanism of hearsay...
But that part of human psyche should be ignored with stuff that can be objectively measured.
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There was a nail knob that you hit perfectly with the hammer.
rf-loop:
--- Quote from: JPortici on November 10, 2022, 08:39:12 am ---
--- Quote from: Martin72 on November 10, 2022, 01:09:00 am ---They´re more lecroy style with all the pros and cons...
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Like the zoom out quirk? ::)
jesus christ what people fixate on..
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It would also be good to evaluate and define the characteristics, performance and skills of oscilloscope users.
Many times it seems to be most top problem.
Of course, it may be that this forum distorts the real distribution between the skilled and the unskilled.
BeBuLamar:
The A company may be able to sell the products and make good money if the customers are willing to pay more because they trust their brand. However, if you buy the B brand products and label them as A brand and sell them you should prepare to pay a big fine as well as going to jail.
You could contract the B brand and have them made a number of products label them as your own brand and sell for more money but unless you have good reputation nobody is going to buy your brand.
So how could they do it. It's the power of the brand that they earned thru the years of making good products.
TheUnnamedNewbie:
--- Quote from: jjoonathan on November 08, 2022, 11:35:44 pm ---I'd argue that the "single supplier" argument is structurally the same as the "sharks and blood" argument, just mapped into policy. In both cases, higher ups are paying a premium for legibility.
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I don't agree. Both happen, but one is 'pay more because liability'. The other is 'pay more per unit, but potentially save in terms of overhead of calibration/services/supplier relations/etc'. Especially if you start adding in cases where you are only allowed to buy from 'accepted suppliers/brands', the cost of adding Rigol, or Siglent, or whatever to that list could be waaaay more expensive than just buying 20 rebadged rigols from Lecroy for 10k more than it would cost from Rigol directly. Not to mention that I believe a lot of the big brands use these devices as 'freebies' to throw in with their big items.
They like to do that with license options too. Just take a feature you would put on a scope by default, slap a 10k$ price tag on it, then give it for 'free' to every customer so their acquisition team can go to their bosses and say 'look boss, saved us another 10k last month!'
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