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When A brands sell B brand equipment.

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alm:
I have worked at a medical product company where every supplier of a product or service we used had to be qualified. This involved filling in a bunch of paperwork about the supplier, their compliance documents, and why the existing suppliers couldn't meet that need. We would have to list requirements that the product of the new supplier had to meet, and "check" every year that the product still met those requirements. Even for something basic like a note taking app, would document where they store their data, if they were meeting data security standards, etc. We weren't buying test equipment, but especially for a one-off it was much simpler to use something from an existing supplier than validating a new supplier.

Fungus:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on November 10, 2022, 08:13:15 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on November 10, 2022, 05:56:24 am ---
--- Quote from: Martin72 on November 10, 2022, 01:09:00 am ---First of all, I wouldn´t call siglent (AND rigol) as B brands nowadays...

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Doesn't matter what you think, or how good the devices they manufacture are.

The big corporations aren't full of Rigols and Siglents and there's plenty of people out there who'll never get past the "made in China" sticker.

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Wrong.
And Wrong.

In your defense, you would be right even 10 years ago.

But there had been changes in that in last 10 years. Their devices are good enough and are being bought in large numbers by both small and very large organizations. Corporate types love a good save, too.

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OK, but if you ask a corporate person to name an 'A' brand, what will they reply?

Even if they're using Rigols and Siglents they're still going to be aware of the "Tektronix" and "Keysight" brands.

We're talking about the brand, not the devices.

Doesn't matter if Walmart can make good t-shirts, they'll never be a real "brand".

balnazzar:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on November 10, 2022, 08:13:15 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on November 10, 2022, 05:56:24 am ---
--- Quote from: Martin72 on November 10, 2022, 01:09:00 am ---First of all, I wouldn´t call siglent (AND rigol) as B brands nowadays...

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Doesn't matter what you think, or how good the devices they manufacture are.

The big corporations aren't full of Rigols and Siglents and there's plenty of people out there who'll never get past the "made in China" sticker.

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Wrong.
And Wrong.

In your defense, you would be right even 10 years ago.

But there had been changes in that in last 10 years. Their devices are good enough and are being bought in large numbers by both small and very large organizations. Corporate types love a good save, too. The drunken millionaire purchasing works only for USA large military contracts and such. And where "patriotic technology" is prefered, for all kinds of reasons..

Problem is that human's habitual perceptions are very long term... People keep repeating statements that stopped being true long ago..It is evolutionary part our survival instinct.. A fruit that was once poisonous stays poisonous forever. And we tell others  not to eat it and they listen. This is the mechanism of hearsay...

But that part of human psyche should be ignored with stuff that can be objectively measured.

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You are wrong here, IMHO.
Within a decade the West could be in a war with the PRC. The 'cold' side of that war is already going on, as the Pelosi affair demonstrated, as well as the PRC's positions on Ukraine.
The major western manufacturers, in an understandable strive for cheap labor, massively delocalized in China. Now, the US (and up to a lesser extent, Europe, see below) are starting to recognize that this went too far (as the face masks and ventilators' happenings shown recently).

It's not about human perceptions, it's basic geopolitics and political economy.
These aspects are quite 'objectively measurable', and have nothing to do with the human psyche.

And it's not just hawkish US foreign policy. The much more permissive EU is starting to show increased awareness:

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/germany-block-chinese-takeover-semiconductor-firm-ers-electronic-handelsblatt-2022-11-09/

https://europe.autonews.com/suppliers/italy-blocked-chinese-takeover-semiconductor-company

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/italys-draghi-vetoes-third-chinese-takeover-this-year-2021-11-23/

BillyO:

--- Quote from: BeBuLamar on November 10, 2022, 10:53:21 am ---However, if you buy the B brand products and label them as A brand and sell them you should prepare to pay a big fine as well as going to jail.

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Am I supposed to take it that you thought I was being serious?  :palm:

How silly must a thing be so that people know it's a joke?  :-//

BeBuLamar:

--- Quote from: BillyO on November 10, 2022, 03:50:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: BeBuLamar on November 10, 2022, 10:53:21 am ---However, if you buy the B brand products and label them as A brand and sell them you should prepare to pay a big fine as well as going to jail.

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Am I supposed to take it that you thought I was being serious?  :palm:

How silly must a thing be so that people know it's a joke?  :-//

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What I meant is that the A brand can simply relabel B brand products and make money because they have something not everybody has. Not just any company can do it. Rebranding products and sell for more is a very common thing but to do that you have to have your reputation so the customers will buy from you and not from the company that actually made the products.
A lot of companies are making a lot of money not making a single products.

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