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| m k:
Normal day of era of office computers. DEC had very high service hour rates, they wanted a monthly support fee. But outside of the US that wasn't all. Non US support fee included a software upgrade permission fee. That was probably invented when third party started offering support. Can't remember how that ended, but paying a permission fee only was not an option. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: nctnico on June 22, 2024, 08:55:53 am --- --- Quote from: jc101 on June 22, 2024, 07:44:19 am ---It will give you hot water, but the coffee side needs a BenchVue licence. --- End quote --- :-DD :-DD :-DD Or a rented license like on their new battery tester DC load. --- End quote --- That sucks balls. |
| HighVoltage:
--- Quote from: jc101 on June 22, 2024, 11:01:39 am ---Yes, £285 a year for the support. £1900 for the battery emulation node locked licence, on top of the £4000 for the instrument itself. --- End quote --- WOW! Keysight could have owned the market by offering a free license of basic software to communicate with any of their instruments. But this should be free of charge and without a stupid license manager. Then for those who want a more advanced software version, they can charge some $ |
| jc101:
WOW, indeed. The instrument's PSU and DC Load sides can be controlled from the front panel. The battery simulation side just says Battery Simulation on the front panel, and it's all run via BenchVue. A whole 33% of the instrument is useless without the licence, but that is sold as an optional extra. Initially, it was an annual rental only, but after some pushback, they graced us with a node-locked permanent licence. Rather than the more obvious choice of just throwing it in for free with the box. It is impressive marketing. It sets the tone for how Keysight will approach customers in the future. I posted a comment on one of their YouTube demos and had a nice video call with some KeySight people. They were interested in the instrument from a technical side. When I raised the licence issue, silence and shrugs were all that was forthcoming. The unit would be an improvement over my Keithley 2281S-20-6, for me at least, because you can generate battery models. The Keithley can, but at a discharge of a fixed 1A. Keithley steers you to an SMU to generate the models. I'd buy one tomorrow if it weren't for the stupidity of the licence. I'd probably keep the BenchVue behemoth in its own VM. The licence manager is seriously invasive. |
| m k:
Generally service is never profitable for a producer of large product repository. Third party can always do a cherry picking. So for third party it's maximizing profits and for producer it's minimizing losses. We all know what happened to mini computers. Now servers are back and next year M$ is about to boost the "terminal" end of the market. But TEs have a different ecosystem. When was this no service for privates started? Recent stock peaked end of 2022, doubling after covid. Now trend is down when index is up. Maybe their crystal ball is telling that customer base is fading to the eternity. So for now all possible customers must be lured in and sucked dry. Very rosy future. |
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