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| Wuerstchenhund:
--- Quote from: Rupunzell on December 28, 2014, 05:33:31 pm ---Like it or not, all that analog stuff is the foundation of all electronics. If there is a lack of understanding of how it works, basic problem like why a simple voltage regulator IC does not work. As for "modern" complex signals and systems, what are the very basic foundations upon these complex signals made from? It is easy to be critical of stuff one does not understand with no interest when the topic is out of their expertise, yet the very foundations of modern electronics is built upon these foundations. --- End quote --- It seems the lack of understanding is on your side if you believe that one needs an antique analog scope to understand what's going on, or that knowledge about 60's technology makes one an expert about analog stuff. Believe it or not but around the world skilled EEs have no problem developing complex analog systems without using one of your antiques. In fact, modern DSOs allow EEs to see stuff you'll never ever know is there with your analog boatanchors (try a modern SMPS for a start). I'm sorry but all I see in your posts is the rambling of someone who seems to be stuck in the 60's and who is incapable to make the jump to the modern day (this is actually not a rare phenomenon btw, I see that quite often with older engineers who stuck at what they learnt in their youth, neve followed changes in technology and eventually become frightened by how the world has changed around them). You're mumbling about how great the 500 Series was and that there's a price to pay with modern scopes, but so far you have not explained what you think that price is or what you believe are the problems are with modern scopes. BTW: it would be great if you could take a bit more care with how you quote because so far it looks retarded. |
| LabSpokane:
--- Quote from: Rupunzell on December 28, 2014, 05:33:31 pm ---Like it or not, all that analog stuff is the foundation of all electronics. --- End quote --- I love to read the old Bell Labs journals as much as anyone, but One of my biggest gripes to my alma mater is how antiquated our curriculum was. EE history is great and fascinating, but higher ed needs to focus on preparing students for the modern age. We can talk about EE yesteryear in an engineering history course that replaces some BS core curriculum requirement. Students need modern tools. |
| Wuerstchenhund:
--- Quote from: LabSpokane on December 28, 2014, 05:58:29 pm ---At least you didn't call it the Jaguar of scopes, because then I'd ask you if it had a glove box for all the knobs that fell off. --- End quote --- Funny that you mention knobs, falling off knobs was a typical LeCroy illness with their older scopes (9300 Series, LC, WaveRunner 1 LT) ;) |
| Rupunzell:
Laws of Physics has changed? This is not about 60's technology, this is about understanding at the most basic level which is often taken for granted. Does modern tools mean students no longer need to understand the very basic foundations of how their technology works with these modern tools doing the work for them? What is not understood here is how problems are solved and the total lack of appreciation of how problems can be solved in an effective and creative way. --- Quote from: Wuerstchenhund on December 28, 2014, 06:02:47 pm --- --- Quote from: Rupunzell on December 28, 2014, 05:33:31 pm ---Like it or not, all that analog stuff is the foundation of all electronics. If there is a lack of understanding of how it works, basic problem like why a simple voltage regulator IC does not work. As for "modern" complex signals and systems, what are the very basic foundations upon these complex signals made from? It is easy to be critical of stuff one does not understand with no interest when the topic is out of their expertise, yet the very foundations of modern electronics is built upon these foundations. --- End quote --- It seems the lack of understanding is on your side if you believe that one needs an antique analog scope to understand what's going on, or that knowledge about 60's technology makes one an expert about analog stuff. Believe it or not but around the world skilled EEs have no problem developing complex analog systems without using one of your antiques. In fact, modern DSOs allow EEs to see stuff you'll never ever know is there with your analog boatanchors (try a modern SMPS for a start). I'm sorry but all I see in your posts is the rambling of someone who seems to be stuck in the 60's and who is incapable to make the jump to the modern day (this is actually not a rare phenomenon btw, I see that quite often with older engineers who stuck at what they learnt in their youth, neve followed changes in technology and eventually become frightened by how the world has changed around them). You're mumbling about how great the 500 Series was and that there's a price to pay with modern scopes, but so far you have not explained what you think that price is or what you believe are the problems are with modern scopes. BTW: it would be great if you could take a bit more care with how you quote because so far it looks retarded. --- End quote --- |
| Ecklar:
[ If you're really curious spend some time at the on-line tek museum photo and video gallery as there are quite a number of historically significant films available there. http://www.vintagetek.org/video-gallery/ I'm still using a tek 7104 at work, there is nothing modern that can replace it for the work I'm doing. Bernice That website has really good historical info. If I lived in that area I'd for sure go to the museum and meet the guys running it. Meanwhile, I'm running thru the videos and stuff. Very interesting. TY |
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