Source of Infiray Tiny-1B - P2 teardowns anyone?

[flyingfishfinger]

Hi,
Does anyone know how to or has recently had any luck contacting Infiray? I'm trying to figure out how to buy their Tiny1-B module, but I haven't had any replies to their generic email besides "Our salesperson will contact you" and radio silence.

I've tried WeChatting their listed account (only get automated looking product placement) and reaching out to the Yantai Iray Alibaba store ("hello friend，thanks for your inquiry. Our salesman will contact you" then nothing).

Any other ideas?

Cheers,
R

[Fraser]

Most of these large thermal imaging core manufacturing companies are inundated with requests for thermal imaging cores due to the significant increase in demand for thermal imaging products. Sadly they are unlikely to respond to requests for single or small quantities of the core.

Crazy as it might sound, sometimes it is easier and cheaper to buy a complete thermal camera that uses a certain core and extract the core from it. In your case, the Infiray P2.looks a likely source of the Tiny-1B. Multi platform SDK support can be a challenge though as you need to go through Infiray customer services for that.

Fraser

[matej_cro]

I contacted them on all email that I find, because im searching for C210 model and cant find it anywhere...
They respond me on infiray officially aliexpress store and from this email: xiaojie.lv@iraytek.com

So contact them on that email, that is email from tehnical support. They answering fast (in Chinese work time)

[flyingfishfinger]

In your case, the Infiray P2.looks a likely source of the Tiny-1B.

I actually got someone to reply from a couple different places. The word seems to be that the Tiny1-B is either out of production or out of stock, but they have a Tiny1-C. Unfortunately, it is a SPI-based module so not useful for me.

Do you know for sure that the P2 contains a Tiny1-B core? AFAIK it's the only one with a native UVC (USB) output. If anyone has opened one up I'd love to hear about it before I spend the money.

Thanks,
R

[Fraser]

Tiny1-A is non Radiometric. Tiny1-B is Radiometric. Infiray P2 is Radiometric

Infiray have the S0 and Tiny1 miniature imaging cores. S0 is too big to fit inside the P2 and is used in the more expensive T2L. Tiny1 will fit inside the P2. Have they built a custom PC and core for the P2 ? No idea 

You decide what core is likely in the P2  I can say no more as I do not own one. Your money, your decision. You could always ask Infiray if the P2 contains the Tiny1-B core as they may be willing to answer that simple question about their own core and product.

Fraser

[thermalengineer]

Last week I sent messages to InfiRay via Facebook Messenger, you can also try to leave message on their official website(www.infiray.com) or send emails to InfiRay team(sales@infiray.com)

Hope above information is helpful!

[Thermal Michael]

I used to buy thermal camera for smartphone from their online store on Alibaba.com or AliExpress. They have online chatting CSR available, however they don't have any modules or micro modules available in online store. But I think you could still send your inquiry to them and they might able to forward the message to the right person. And other than that, you could also try their official website and social media. Their website is www.infiray.com. Other Social Media Links are listed in below:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/infiray_technology/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InfiRayHQ
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/iraytechnology
Twitter: https://twitter.com/InfiRay
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@infiray_thermalcamera

[matej_cro]

You could always ask Infiray if the P2 contains the Tiny1-B core as they may be willing to answer that simple question about their own core and product.

Fraser

I asked Infiray tehnician some things about Uni-t uti260B camera and software and so one. And he answered me that he doesnt know for that camera and what core it uses. But he is sure that core in uti260B is not from Infiray. He give me link for infiray software to try it on UNI-T if it will work 

So i think that they will not answer you what devices and brands are using their cores...

[Fraser]

I think that Infiray technician was placed in a difficult position by your question……

Uni-Trend make the UTi260B and Infiray make the C200/C210 in direct competition with it in the marketplace. There are likely NDA’s in place if Infiray are supplying cores to Unit-Trend. A company, or it’s representative is unlikely to state that a competing product uses one of their imaging cores as that could effect sales of their own product, especially if the competing product is less expensive.

With regard to using C2xx software on a UTI260B… what a strange thing to suggest ! If he was truly a tech he would know that the software does not talk to the core directly, but rather the embedded computer and firmware within the camera. I do not think anyone has suggested that the UTi260B is an Infiray camera in Uni-Trend casing so there is little to no chance of a Infiray host software working with the UTi260B ….. they are different hardware and firmware platforms that may just share the same input sensor.

There is not a lot of choice in the miniature thermal imaging core market. Uni-T used to use the FLIR Lepton cores but has now moved to domestic suppliers for their cores. Guide Sensmart and Infiray offer the miniaturised TIMO and Tiny1 cores but I have not seen any others advertised from Chinese core makers yet. It would be logical for UNI-Trend to buy-in cores from Guide Sensmart and Infiray rather than using USA sourced cores and this is what I believe they have done. I can advise that both Guide Sensmart and Infiray are reaching out to Chinese OEM’s in an effort to increase market share.

Fraser

[thermalengineer]

yeah, I found many thermal imaging manufacturers are unlikely to respond to requests for single or small quantities of the modules or detectors.