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cascade:
Since the third generation FlirOne is now ready for preorders, I would like to ask what would be a better deal?

Second generation, perhaps used one, although the prices seem to not fall bellow $250, or the new third generation model at $199.

From reading around I understand that the sensor size of g2 is matched in g3 pro at the higher price point
Will the resolution be software limited in the g3 standard? Would it be open to custom software enhancements?

How is the longevity of the g2 models?

Fraser:
FLIR ONE Gen 1 (Original for iOS) uses a LEPTON 2 80 x 60 pixel core

FLIR ONE Gen 2 uses a LEPTON 3 160 x 120 pixel core

FLIR One Gen 3 standard model uses a LEPTON 2 80 x 60 core

FLIR ONE Gen 3 Pro model uses a LEPTON 3 160 x 120 pixel core


The FLIR ONE Gen 2 has generally been reliable, but I have recently been somewhat inundated with requests to repair bulk lots of F1G2 cameras of both the Android and iOS versions. The actual LEPTON 3 cores are very reliable however. The F1G3 my be more reliable and an improved design.

I consider it unfortunate that FLIR decided to produce a Gen 3 version of teh camera that was priced higher than its equivalent Gen 2 specification. I personally would not buy a FLIR ONE Gen 3 standard model as 80 x 60 resolution is too low for my needs.

The Gen 3 cameras use different LEPTON core in the two different resolution models. No hacking to a higher resolution is possible as the microbolometers are different resolutions, not software hobbling, unlike the E4. FLIR just insert whichever lepton Core they need into each cameras production line. it s a self contained camera core.

It may be worth considering the i3 Thermal Expert. $499 + $65 shipping from Korea. It massively out performs a FLIR ONE of any generation and is higher resolution than the best LEPTON 3 core. The Thermal Expert camera is anther good option.

Fraser

cascade:
What is typically failing on the g2 models?

Is it OK to say that the g2 is pretty revivable device without special equipment. I am thinking for example swapping battery vs replacing a crucial burned-out component on the board or sensor. Is the quality of the components and manufacturing process ensuring a long live span?

Fraser:
F1G2 failures range from simple battery failure and firmware lock-up through to firmware corruption.

Failed solder joints under the surface mount IC's and burned power management chips have been reported.

The F1G2 is not a simple repair in all cases. Even battery replacement means transplanting the truly tiny connector to the new batteries leads.

I own six operational F1G2 cameras at the moment. All are working fine without issues. My two original purchases have never given me any problems. The other four were bought cheaply and repaired by me. To date, they remain reliable. I do have another one that will not respond to my attempts to revive it, but I only bought it for the LEPTON 3 core so I have not put a lot of effort into it.

As a guide, I have been buying faulty F1G2 cameras for around £60 and one cost me only £30. They have a very low residual value when not operating as only the brave attempt repairs on them  ;D  I do not offer a repair service on F1G2 cameras as they are just not economic to work on. My time costs more than the market value of the camera. Effectively these are disposable thermal cameras if they fail.

Fraser

marshallh:
FLIR One Gen3 Pro ordered. I have a phone that is actually able to use it now. Bought it because it can actually export radiometric JPEGs for analysis, maybe this means FLIR are actually utilizing all the pixels on the sensor instead of windowing like last gen?

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