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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
259 (27.2%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
436 (45.8%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
47 (4.9%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
47 (4.9%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
162 (17%)

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Offline djQUAN

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6950 on: May 19, 2015, 02:02:48 am »
Did a search and nothing came back sooo....

Does anyone have a problem with the E4 battery? Mine seems to suddenly turn off when the battery is moved or just put on the desk on its side. It seems to be a battery contact issue but once I wipe it with cloth, it will work fine for about a week or two then the problem is back again.

Anyone got a solution to it? It seems the dual contact doesn't work as well as it should.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6951 on: May 19, 2015, 05:21:20 am »
Did a search and nothing came back sooo....

Does anyone have a problem with the E4 battery? Mine seems to suddenly turn off when the battery is moved or just put on the desk on its side. It seems to be a battery contact issue but once I wipe it with cloth, it will work fine for about a week or two then the problem is back again.

Anyone got a solution to it? It seems the dual contact doesn't work as well as it should.
I haven't had the issue however I have had an issue with the battery itself being bad (causing the camera to act all funky - lines in screen, not taking pictures.. etc)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6952 on: May 19, 2015, 11:42:31 pm »
Resolution hack worked fine on an e4 2.3.0.  Having problems with the menu hack though.  Some things are present and some are missing.  No 3 spot mode.  No zoom.  No msgs about free enhanced menu.  What is present is pip, hotspot, coldspot, below alarm, above alarm.  Any ideas?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6953 on: May 20, 2015, 12:13:41 am »
Which is the procedure you have followed?

Is this the one by Fubar? How many attempts (install hack - remove hack) you have actually made before such the conclusion?
Which OS do you run?

Anyway, I will have my E4 tomorrow, and we'll see.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6954 on: May 20, 2015, 01:05:17 am »
Yes, the fubar.  Multiple times.  Menu hack brings some stuff, but not all.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6955 on: May 20, 2015, 07:00:33 am »
Hi to all!

I did successful hack, but now receiving follow msg on my camera: Application appcore.exe encountered a serious error and must shut down
After searching, no clear fix answer been found :(
Is any one can help with this issues?

Thanks
And best regards
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6956 on: May 20, 2015, 07:14:24 am »
@alank

Hmmm... then my result will most probably be the same.... unless...
You still haven't told us about which OS you are using when applying the hack?

@god_ukr

You are God. Why asking? :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6957 on: May 20, 2015, 08:23:57 am »
Hi to all!

I did successful hack, but now receiving follow msg on my camera: Application appcore.exe encountered a serious error and must shut down
After searching, no clear fix answer been found :(
Is any one can help with this issues?

Thanks
And best regards

I've seen that message 5-6 times on my camera over the past year, each time a power reset solves it so I just assume its windows messing and dont worry.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6958 on: May 20, 2015, 10:48:14 am »
I also get that message once in a while. I usually do a cold restart and that solves it but last time it occurred I pressed some buttons and the pop up closed. E4 worked fine until I tried to save a screen cap and it won't save. Other functions worked fine.

A cold restart restored the save picture functionality.
 

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Re: Flir I3 TO I7 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6959 on: May 20, 2015, 02:13:39 pm »
FLIR i3 TO i7 PANORAMA WITH FLIR TOOLS+


« Last Edit: May 22, 2015, 08:31:57 am by Anastasios »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6960 on: May 20, 2015, 03:02:34 pm »
@All

Okay, I have it in my hands finally! Already attached cut from iPhone5 protection film on the screen. Charging... will proceed according the Fubar procedure in a couple of hours. Anybody curious is welcome :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6961 on: May 20, 2015, 03:05:30 pm »
Solare I was using win7.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6962 on: May 20, 2015, 07:23:00 pm »
@All

...about to apply the cure :)

Question: this line:

"Hard reboot the camera by removing and replacing the battery. Turn on the camera again."

also known as "cold reboot"

implies that I have to just pull the battery off the unit when it is operating?!!!

or do I have to plug out the usb cable first?

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6963 on: May 20, 2015, 07:29:23 pm »
@All

...about to apply the cure :)

Question: this line:

"Hard reboot the camera by removing and replacing the battery. Turn on the camera again."

also known as "cold reboot"

implies that I have to just pull the battery off the unit when it is operating?!!!

or do I have to plug out the usb cable first?

I'd do both, but just pulling the battery should be enough.  I don't think the camera will stay running with just USB cable and no battery.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6964 on: May 20, 2015, 07:40:07 pm »
I'll explain why I have some doubts...

Operating OS have typically many files open, may be reading or even writing something from/to flash at the same moment I pull out the USB plug... I afraid the files may be corrupted and the fact that after the cure appcore.exe sometime crashes support this evidence.

On the other hand, the OS will immediately know if I pull out the USB cable, and may take actions (if this is intended), which will harm the cure or prevent it to be applied in full ... and there are recent reports that in some cases the Menu hack is not full.

So I still don't know how exactly behave... more opinions please! :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6965 on: May 20, 2015, 07:41:45 pm »
Just wait 10 seconds after copying a file.  My advice to do a cold cycle/power off is not to pull the battery, but just hold the power button solid for 15 seconds.  This will do a full power down.  Then tap power to turn it back on.  No unplugging necessary.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6966 on: May 20, 2015, 07:42:25 pm »
sorry, I did this update myself.

I would unplug the usb, and then pull the battery. if you want to be safe, I would hold the power button for 1-2 seconds then release, which will put the camera to sleep, THEN pull the battery.

It's not going to see CRC32 changes and undo them, or brick, or anything... though, obviously, YMMV. Aurora should have input as well.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6967 on: May 20, 2015, 08:16:52 pm »
Thank you guys...

Unfortunately, I haven't even approached to curing device :( I am obviously stupid  |O but I cannot install FLIR drivers ver 1.9.

Here is what I do:

-Install drivers on WinXP Pro SP3
-Reboot PC
-Hard off the camera
-Boot PC
-Login Windows
-Then I plug the USB and

IF the camera was off or stand-by it shows battery, but nothing else. However, New Drivers are found on my PC, which is FLIR USB Device, Flir Video etc., as it should be.

However, in a moment these names are replaced with Generic USB Volume and Generic USB video.


 :scared:

IF the camera was already full-on, it behaves quite the same.

I tried to manually locate and replace drivers from the Drivers installation folder. There I found 2 versions of Video USB Driver and USB device driver, among others.

But none of them installed! It keeps saying: there is no info about hardware in this *.inf WTF&!!!*@($*&$$@(&&??????????

I also tried to connect FlirInstallNet with this drivers. It does, however it lists Generic USB video only and not FLIR.

It connects to the device, but I am afraid to use 'wrong drivers' for such the important and risky operation.

I tried to GetHwInfo and check files buitton in the utility. In the first case it mostly returns empty strings in a message box.
In the second, it complains there is no CRCkit and ProdKit found...

I am about to panic :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6968 on: May 20, 2015, 08:44:21 pm »
...okay,

OS installed 3 drivers (while asking for permission to install 6 times though - you know this WinXP certification lab bla bla bla)

- USB Compound device
- USB video device
- USB device (listed in volumes mounted)

Also I have Generic disk appeared in Explorer with some files...
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6969 on: May 20, 2015, 11:46:27 pm »
Done.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6970 on: May 20, 2015, 11:47:44 pm »
:D
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6971 on: May 21, 2015, 12:59:00 am »
Hi guys,

How do I return camera to the original USB mode so I could livestream again and save files from it?

Don't tell me that I have to reverse all back :) In the Fubar procedure I found nothing about returning to the original USB mode, so I am stuck in FTP mode... help!

P.S.: Does it seems so or I am imagining things, or read something like that but it appears to me there is more noise and less frequent calibrations of the image after installing the menu hack?

I would say, especially hi frequency noise? "running lines" down the screen, pixel walking... :) vertical stripes holding on place... how do I check actual Noise setting applied in my conf file?

Min temp span can be set to 2C but really contrast is to high for such the noise. At 8C it appears okay. But I have seen here on thread much more smooth videos and snapshots, really nice... I wonder why mine is so... pixelated :)

Ofc. unless you made your images with EUR 50K camera claiming it is the E4 :)))))) Joking  ^-^
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6972 on: May 21, 2015, 02:52:26 am »
If you ran the Set_RNDIS_permament.fif, then at some point you'll need to run the Remove_RNDIS_Permament.fif to cancel it.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6973 on: May 21, 2015, 10:51:52 am »
So if I understand you correctly, after all the hacks applied, I just run the Remove_RNDIS_Permament.fif and this will not cancel the hacks?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6974 on: May 21, 2015, 11:53:06 am »
Yes, it just removes RNDIS mode.
 


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