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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
239 (26.4%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
425 (46.9%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
43 (4.7%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
41 (4.5%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
158 (17.4%)

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Offline max-bit

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7550 on: December 18, 2015, 06:19:09 pm »
WTF ?
Please two photos:
The first picture where number firmware 2.8.0 and SN xxxxxxx
and the second picture where number firmware 2.3.0 and SN xxxxxxx

SN XXXXXX (firest picture) = SN XXXXXXX (second picture)
OK ?
 

Offline matmoe

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7551 on: December 18, 2015, 06:21:12 pm »
Here screenshots of my camera

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7552 on: December 18, 2015, 06:23:41 pm »
Please two photos:
The first picture where number firmware 2.8.0 and SN xxxxxxx

This is not possible, because i did no photos when i was on 2.8.0. I'm sorry, but at this point you have to trust  :-//
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7553 on: December 18, 2015, 06:24:05 pm »
It has to be visible number !!!
And it has to be seen yet this number to version 2.8.0
This picture proves nothing, sorry
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7554 on: December 18, 2015, 06:25:46 pm »
In that case, this can be considered untrue
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7555 on: December 18, 2015, 06:26:31 pm »
Matmoe: thank you for the 2.3.0 package it worked perfectly for me...
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7556 on: December 18, 2015, 06:34:30 pm »
At the moment it is not confirmed
If I see pictures which are in line numbers, it will be a confirmation.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7557 on: December 18, 2015, 06:34:46 pm »
It has to be visible number !!!
And it has to be seen yet this number to version 2.8.0
This picture proves nothing, sorry

Pah! I certainly will not post my serial number. And its ok when you decide for yourself, that its not true. It worked for me and that is nice   O0
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7558 on: December 18, 2015, 06:38:01 pm »
So do not confirmed.
Sorry

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7559 on: December 18, 2015, 08:03:50 pm »
guys guys don't argue so violently!

you are both right... I think we will go a long way with slow accumulating statistics :) Not to mention that guys from FL** will certainly monitor this blog and can anonymously even post confusing messages :)

Now... we need desperate volunteers! Who wants to bet 1,000 or above one guy against another? :)
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 08:05:21 pm by Solare »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7560 on: December 18, 2015, 09:47:05 pm »
It has to be visible number !!!
And it has to be seen yet this number to version 2.8.0
This picture proves nothing, sorry

Pah! I certainly will not post my serial number. And its ok when you decide for yourself, that its not true. It worked for me and that is nice   O0
Are you able to provide a serial range? Like maybe the 63000 range or so? I have helped people modify cameras that were up to the 62,000 range which would be serial number 63962000. (All serials start with 639 and then the unit number)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7561 on: December 19, 2015, 02:49:09 am »
I've been following this thread for quite a while now, and the standard response to new claims has always been "cool! show us how to do it", or possibly "it's not working for me, help me figure out what I'm doing wrong", not "YOU'RE LYING". I have to say that I don't think much of the new approach.   >:(
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7562 on: December 19, 2015, 03:05:27 am »
I agree wholeheartedly I really only threw out what worked for me to try to help others out that might have also ordered a gift for Christmas. The 2.3.0 zip file that matmoe got while his version of flir tools was offering "upgrade" to 2.3.0 from 2.8.0 was likely an error on fl**'s part that they offered the upgrade to any firmware version other than 2.3.0 and released cameras with newer 2.8.0 firmware before they update the servers that flir tools checks for upgrade availability.

If that is the case then matmoe  deserves even more credit from everyone who enhances their 2.8.0 camera.

I am fairly sure that someone will figure out a way to break the 2.8.0 firmware but the fact that it was this easy to downgrade and it happened so fast is a "Christmas" miracle!
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 03:30:10 am by Navynuke »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7563 on: December 19, 2015, 04:14:59 pm »
I received my Flir E4 today and I immediately checked the firmware version which was 2.8.0.
I downgraded to 2.3.0 on a Windows 7 32 bit computer and it worked like a charm  :phew:.
After testing and verifying that it worked correctly I used the resolution and menu hack.

All well! Now I have a fully functional E4 with zoom etc..

Many thanks to you all for the hard work.

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7564 on: December 19, 2015, 08:20:27 pm »
I finished making the macro lens holder. Why make it so hard you ask.
 1. Reliability of fastening of the lenses.
 2. Versatility.
 3. The ability to get low distortion image.
 For some works you can use a simple plastic holder. But if you want a large zoom  the idea of one lens does not work well. The photo shows some image distortion if you use the  lens ZNSE F25mm.  Two lenses F38.1mm did work better. Distortion less.
 Can set different lenses in different sequences to obtain
the required degree of zoom when in macro mode from 1X to 8X. More expensive germanium lenses maximum diameter of 28 mm will provide low distortion (spherical and chromatic aberrations and distortions type "pillow"/"sheet"), the best ratio signal/noise. More
cheap lenses from zinc selenide small diameter will allow you to obtain a budget option with low cost optics, but still applicable for simple works. Thus, the adapter provides maximum
flexibility in the use of available lenses, cheaper or more expensive.

For example, in the medical - photo palm. The use of macro lenses for diagnostics of electronics - photo phone.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2015, 08:34:24 am by Uho »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7565 on: December 19, 2015, 10:15:59 pm »
Do you have the STL file for the lens holder available?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7566 on: December 20, 2015, 06:59:21 am »
I did the 3D model. The forum participants tsmith35, Solare, mardaso helped in the measurements and tests. The holder contains a lot of detail. Not only plastic. Tubes for the lenses are made of aluminium alloy. Anodized  necessary. For  of pushers I did the brass screws. Pushers contain rubber anti-slip elements. For manufacturing these parts need a lot of equipment.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2015, 07:01:33 am by Uho »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7567 on: December 20, 2015, 03:37:30 pm »
Thank you matmoe, Navynuke and neggles. Because of you ;) I bit the bullet and downgraded my new Flir 2.8.0 to 2.3.0, successfully!!!

Flir E4 1.2L
Serial 63968xxx
Windows XP, 32 bit
FLIR Tools v4.1.14066.1001 - run as admin
flir_ex_pn639_v2.3.0_update_pack.zip from http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00983732806372988148
Comodo Internet Security - disable

Before the update, I deleted all saved images and did reset device settings to factory default.

Happy Holidays to everyone!
« Last Edit: December 20, 2015, 03:51:29 pm by ct »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7568 on: December 20, 2015, 03:39:40 pm »
Are you able to provide a serial range? Like maybe the 63000 range or so? I have helped people modify cameras that were up to the 62,000 range which would be serial number 63962000. (All serials start with 639 and then the unit number)

It starts with 63967xxx
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7569 on: December 20, 2015, 06:17:02 pm »
 :blah:

it proves nothing - I saw a camera with 2.3.0 starting with 639670xx
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7570 on: December 20, 2015, 06:47:17 pm »
I saw 63968XXX with 2.3.0 :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7571 on: December 20, 2015, 07:22:17 pm »
before or after you downgraded the E4?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7572 on: December 20, 2015, 07:34:11 pm »
New one. Begining of 63968XXX serie.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2015, 07:37:04 pm by solarforce »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7573 on: December 21, 2015, 12:15:10 am »
I thought I would also chime in my series is 63967 and the software as I already earlier said is the 2.8.0.

Could someone help me decide if I should be worried about those pixels I see when in the 'Device Settings' I don't exactly remember the menu name.

I haven't tried to downgrade my firmware just yet, would be nice to hear from that one person on how he got his cameras bricked.

Also how inadvisable is it to use Windows 7 instead of Windows XP. The only laptop I have with Windows XP  has problems and the only way for me would be to install it on another laptop. I mean I have no problem with installing XP on a laptop if there is a risk with Win 7.

Also one thing I wanted to add. LCD's or at least in my knowledge have a native resolution, has anyone tried to set their laptop resolution on a setting other then the native? So then the higher resolution is basically the native resolution for these cameras.  :-DD
« Last Edit: December 21, 2015, 09:51:55 am by anonyman »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7574 on: December 21, 2015, 11:48:16 am »
2 Anonyman,

screw it... these pi?els, unless they are on radiometric image permanently, is not a trouble at all... they appear there because of a simple masking bug of E4 interface. One may be able to correct this, but I won't do this in my view unnecessary work associated with increased risks to ruin something important in the camera. My advise - live with that as I do :)
 


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