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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
237 (26.3%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
423 (47%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
42 (4.7%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
40 (4.4%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
158 (17.6%)

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Author Topic: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown  (Read 2617402 times)

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Offline electr_peter

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7850 on: May 30, 2016, 08:42:02 am »
I noticed that E4 camera have frozen 2 times already. Picture froze, buttons did not respond. Holding power key restarted camera. Camera froze at seemingly random times (possible at calibration stage), otherwise 99.9% of time works fine. Device E4+ with 2.11 FW

Question - is there a way to know what caused this issue? Is there a log for failures in internal files?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7851 on: May 30, 2016, 09:56:34 am »
Mine has locked up a few times.  It will either:

  • Pop up a modal box saying appcore.exe had to shut down
  • Go to a solid white screen
  • Sometimes the pixels will go full-scale 'hot', usually creeping from top to bottom

However, my camera is heavily molested so some of that may be my error.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7852 on: May 31, 2016, 02:32:41 am »
mct75, symptoms you described does not fit in my case. Camera just froze in operation, still showing last frame with coloured thermal pattern and markers - no extra weird behaviour was noticed.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7853 on: June 02, 2016, 05:30:43 pm »
Great post !

I have applied the hack with success, and increase in quality is impressive. Thanks.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7854 on: June 05, 2016, 07:24:58 pm »
Having a few major issues.

A couple of years ago, I bought two E4's with 1.22 firmware.  One was easily and successfully modified back then, the other sat, until tonight.  I followed the instructions, but for whatever reason -- the images look jagged and half the menu items are missing...spot measurement, msx, etc...not to mention, it no longer shows up as a webcam when connected to my MacBook Pro (factory 1.22 did). 

I edited the conf.cfc file without issues.  I imported the menu3beta (or whatever the file is called) -- and while it looks slightly better, it doesn't look anywhere near what the other looked like, and certainly doesn't look like my E60.


Is there a way I can either revert back to the original 1.22 firmware and start over or move to a newer version and go from there?


Getting desperate -- have to ship this out soon to a friend who I'm donating it to.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Phil
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7855 on: June 08, 2016, 05:52:51 am »
Did you make a backup? Restore it, then try it again.


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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7856 on: June 08, 2016, 06:47:59 am »
Did you make a backup? Restore it, then try it again.

Out of complete stupidity, I did not...however, 2lps was very kind in assisting me resolve the issue.  A backup will be made though!

For whatever reason, my E4 didn't quite like the conf.cfc file.  It's imaging was slightly improved, but there was aliasing shown on the LCD, but the rendered images taken by the camera didn't show it as much.  We tried changing CRC03 slightly, we tried other conf.cfc files and after a few sleepless nights, it finally took and decided to behave.

Happily, the imager still shows up as a webcam, so they'll be able to record (albeit externally) directly from the imager.


I could not have done it without the help of 2lps and the EEVblog community.  Thank you so much, everyone!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7857 on: June 09, 2016, 12:47:11 am »
Did you make a backup? Restore it, then try it again.

Out of complete stupidity, I did not...however, 2lps was very kind in assisting me resolve the issue.  A backup will be made though!

For whatever reason, my E4 didn't quite like the conf.cfc file.  It's imaging was slightly improved, but there was aliasing shown on the LCD, but the rendered images taken by the camera didn't show it as much.  We tried changing CRC03 slightly, we tried other conf.cfc files and after a few sleepless nights, it finally took and decided to behave.

Happily, the imager still shows up as a webcam, so they'll be able to record (albeit externally) directly from the imager.


I could not have done it without the help of 2lps and the EEVblog community.  Thank you so much, everyone!

Glad you got it sorted.

I finally managed to get hold of an E4 to upgrade (albeit not mine!). It had 2.3.0 firmware and 1.2L hardware. Interestingly I was able to turn on RNDIS using the hidden menu, which was still accessible? Did anyone else find this?

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7858 on: June 09, 2016, 05:27:44 am »
Dear Sir,

I just got E4 v2.11 and downgrade firmware to 2.3

But I read topic #7788 and use script modify and try to make like this http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/

But when I try to Resolution hack in cmd it found some problem.



I don't know how to do?

Please advice me too.Thank you
« Last Edit: June 09, 2016, 05:36:22 am by komy14 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7859 on: June 09, 2016, 06:59:39 am »
It means that you have tried to run the hack before and it already created a patched version of common_dll.dll and conf.cfc in the FLIRreshack directory. Just delete the common_dll.dll and conf.cfc from the FLIRreshack directory (the same location, where the apply.py script is) and run it again.

You did upgrade back to 2.11 using the update pack, right?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7860 on: June 09, 2016, 08:28:19 am »
Interestingly I was able to turn on RNDIS using the hidden menu, which was still accessible? Did anyone else find this?

This is news to me. We could get to the menu but changing options had no effect.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7861 on: June 09, 2016, 01:23:28 pm »
Just recently purchased a Flir e4 that came with fw 2.11.0.  I followed the directions posted at http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ along with the files posted by 2lps and i believe everything went fine.

Question. How can I verify that the resolution is indeed 320x240 and menu hack took.  Thanks 2lps and everyone else for making the hacks available.
 

Offline komy14

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7862 on: June 09, 2016, 01:38:54 pm »
It means that you have tried to run the hack before and it already created a patched version of common_dll.dll and conf.cfc in the FLIRreshack directory. Just delete the common_dll.dll and conf.cfc from the FLIRreshack directory (the same location, where the apply.py script is) and run it again.

You did upgrade back to 2.11 using the update pack, right?

Thanks for 2lps

my detail:

First my e4 come with firmware 2.11


and I downgrade firmware to 2.3 with Flirtool and file from MATMOE -  http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00983732806372988148


I install program need for upgrade into pc (windows7-32bit) :)

and Switching camera to RNDIS mode.

and I connect e4 with filezila and backup all file in e4 and put 3 folder(FLIRfif, FLIRmenuhack and FLIRreshack) into drive c:



in folder FLIRreshack



and run cmd it found problem.



and see in older FLIRreshack again.



I don't know what wrong and how to fix it?

please help me too. ???










 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7863 on: June 09, 2016, 03:22:11 pm »
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7864 on: June 09, 2016, 09:01:10 pm »
Dear all,

Thanks you so much for 2lps,now I roll back firmware and reverse it all,and try again.


It's work!!!!

Thank you for this board and 2lps.

Cheers.







« Last Edit: June 09, 2016, 09:10:18 pm by komy14 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7865 on: June 09, 2016, 10:20:15 pm »
Wow. I have just stumbled upon this thread. I always thought that high resolution Thermal Imagers were super expensive because the manufacturing of a 320x240 sensor would be very expensive to produce.

And now I see that a Thermal Imager the price of a FLIR E4 actually has a 320x240 sensor inside but is artificially limited?

I really wonder just how much more in sales FLIR would make if they made an official 320x240 Thermal Imager at this kind of price range without the need for a hack.

Even if it were double the price of the FLIR E4 I'm sure it would sell.

Not just amongst professionals but also those who wish to purchase one for fun or curiosity.
<3 ~Faith~
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7866 on: June 10, 2016, 05:14:59 am »
Wow. I have just stumbled upon this thread. I always thought that high resolution Thermal Imagers were super expensive because the manufacturing of a 320x240 sensor would be very expensive to produce.

And now I see that a Thermal Imager the price of a FLIR E4 actually has a 320x240 sensor inside but is artificially limited?

I really wonder just how much more in sales FLIR would make if they made an official 320x240 Thermal Imager at this kind of price range without the need for a hack.

Even if it were double the price of the FLIR E4 I'm sure it would sell.

Not just amongst professionals but also those who wish to purchase one for fun or curiosity.

They're definitely not super expensive to produce. For example, the Therm-App is a 384 × 288 camera retails for less than $1,000. Assuming the market for these cameras continues to grow, companies like FLIR and Fluke will eventually have to reduce their prices to stay competitive. Of course, the big companies have the advantage of being brand names and could make sales at higher prices for a bit longer.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2016, 07:49:11 am by ixfd64 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7867 on: June 12, 2016, 12:53:15 am »
Hey guys, I recently bought a used E4 with firmware 2.3.0 after reading this thread in hopes of upgrading the resolution. However, it seems to be not working for me. For starters, this camera has a conf.cfg file that is 6297 bytes. And before I knew that I would get the following error:

= CONNECT TO FTP
= CREATING BACKUP DIR backup-20150401094151
= RETR /FlashBFS/system/common_dll.dll
= RETR /FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d/conf.cfc
Traceback (most recent call last):
File “apply.py”, line 70, in
http://ftp.retrbinary(“RETR ” + name, tmpfile.write)
File “C:\Python27\lib\ftplib.py”, line 414, in retrbinary
conn = self.transfercmd(cmd, rest)
File “C:\Python27\lib\ftplib.py”, line 376, in transfercmd
return self.ntransfercmd(cmd, rest)[0]
File “C:\Python27\lib\ftplib.py”, line 339, in ntransfercmd
resp = self.sendcmd(cmd)
File “C:\Python27\lib\ftplib.py”, line 249, in sendcmd
return self.getresp()
File “C:\Python27\lib\ftplib.py”, line 224, in getresp
raise error_perm, resp
ftplib.error_perm: 550 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)


Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7868 on: June 12, 2016, 06:32:58 am »
Another focusing tool for Flir E4. Matches perfectly, easy to make (2 minutes), safe for the camera due to softness of the material.
Instruction:
1) Take a plastic bottle caps with diameter of sealing part 17mm
2) Heat up the bottle caps top part (see photo) to soften the light.
3) Insert immediately to the E4 cameras lens opening to make initial form.
4) Heat 1/3 of the tools working side to soften the light and insert the tool again (matching previous angular position).
5) Repeat 3 - 4 times to form full shape. 
6) Enjoy 8)
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 06:44:35 am by bangbang99 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7869 on: June 12, 2016, 06:52:21 am »
Many thanks to Dave and the EEVblog community, I purchased an E4 and hacked to E8 usability.  I now have a fully functional thermal camera that has shown me all sorts of good...and bad.   :clap:
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7870 on: June 12, 2016, 07:05:22 am »
This is probably buried deep in this thread somewhere.  Found some things on Thingaverse that can be printer for the FLIR's (even a few from eevblog!).

http://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=FLIR
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7871 on: June 12, 2016, 07:50:18 am »
Just an easy way to play a couple of times with lens without need to by the perfect tool :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7872 on: June 19, 2016, 01:08:34 pm »
my Flir E4 just arrived, it came with software 2.11 and model 1.2L. i cant exactly find a guide to hack it with software 2.11. do i have to downgrade the software, just like for version 2.8? i did noticed a few people have been successful hacking software 2.11...

if someone can help me with a step by step guide to hacking my E4 it would be greatly appreciated. thank you
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7873 on: June 19, 2016, 07:53:47 pm »
my Flir E4 just arrived, it came with software 2.11 and model 1.2L. i cant exactly find a guide to hack it with software 2.11. do i have to downgrade the software, just like for version 2.8? i did noticed a few people have been successful hacking software 2.11...

if someone can help me with a step by step guide to hacking my E4 it would be greatly appreciated. thank you

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg921880/#msg921880
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7874 on: June 20, 2016, 03:58:44 am »
Hi, I'm new here...
I manage to brick my E4 with FW version 2.11. 
First Downgrade it to 2.3 successfully(using https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg839561/#msg839561) and then following this http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/  install resolution hack, and it worked.
Than I try to install Menu hack and it wasn't working correctly. Then I tried to install this https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg326024/#msg326024
Now i get wrong password when try to login in FTP, but I can still access file thru windows explorer without password. And then after FLIR logo I get blank screen.
Is there some way to upload eFLIRInstall.exe and Z3comb_v2.3.0.fif to force reinstall?
I tried manually to do this, but still nothing on LCD after FLIR logo.
I did backup FlashSF but not FlashBSP.  I tried to remove hack, but still nothing. I still have common_dll.dll and conf.cfc files.
When type default gateway into browser i get this: See image in attachment...
EDIT:
I found this ftp://192.168.0.2/FlashIFS/FLIRUpdate/ and it contains  eFLIRInstall.exe and Z3comb_v2.3.0.fif
Now I'm trying to find way to start eFLIRInstall or to put it in autorun. Any suggestions?
« Last Edit: June 20, 2016, 04:17:58 am by brickedMyE4 »
 


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