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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
252 (26.9%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
433 (46.3%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
45 (4.8%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
46 (4.9%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
160 (17.1%)

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Offline eg14

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8325 on: October 16, 2017, 06:29:02 pm »
Congratulations!

Let's say you won a lottery!

I would be just happy to have the same sensor noise value as you have!

Absolute record was something like 12.84 or so...
The absolute looser I am with 26.56

:)

You are much closer to the first than to the second :)

I think you are happy now!

Digging this one up from the grave, but I think I set a new low noise record with my E4

measureInfo.temporalMk double 12.779606
 

Offline snk_pl

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8326 on: October 29, 2017, 07:31:54 pm »
I want to share with you my "cool story bro". This site help me alot.

More than one year ago I upgrade my i3/i7 to E4. It was second hand unit 1.2L 2.3FV without modification. Everything looked cool.

I've made backup and resolution hack. After that problems started. Camera sometimes would not boot corecly:
no thermal image (green screen) or test image
no sd card error
app stopped error

After cold restart it worked or not. Tryed different hack. Nothing helped.
Yesterday I had enough. Started my research: My serial number is 6397**** so after few hours i know my flir was 2.11 downgraded to 2.3 hacked (fuc**d), restored, sold to me :>

So I upgraded back to 2.11 and tryed python hack for res and menu. Everything like in description but only menu hack partly worked. No res upgrade.

To make things short I had to run script again (with error thac camera is patched) to get hacked common_dll.dll and conf.cfc in hack folder

then telnet 192.168.0.2 and "stopapp" to kill all running on flir apps

then filezilla to manually upload common_dll.dll and conf.cfc from hack folder

And it worked !! Aslo no problems with stability on 2.11 :blah:
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8327 on: November 01, 2017, 09:54:34 am »
Hello,
I have with my new E4, SW2.11.0, 1.2L the following problem with the update: Although I can call the USB (Camera) menu, but I can not select the RNDIS mode (and no other than the default). What am I doing wrong, or what do I have to do differently? (No connection to PC, Cam. Vers.:63901-0101)
Thanks for help and Sorry for my bad English, i am from Germany ...
Best regards, Tom
« Last Edit: November 01, 2017, 09:59:07 am by ZX12 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8328 on: November 01, 2017, 01:37:11 pm »
Flir disabled mode selection in that screen long time ago. You cant use it. Search this thread for RNDIS temporary and permanent fif files, and use FlirInetallNet executable with the fif files to change USB mode.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8329 on: November 02, 2017, 04:21:40 pm »
I have a problem updating Flir E4 3.5.0 to 3.9.0, Flir Tools does not find updates for my camera. Only live preview and you can download photos.
Can I update directly with FlirInstallNet. What does Force GetHW Type.exe do?
 It seems the only thing that I am having trouble with is (Shift+Ctrl+ Alt)  does noting but highlight the Camera in FLIRTOOLS.  It does not open an explorer window to allow me to select the appropriate 3.9.0.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2017, 04:50:42 pm by gregor11 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8330 on: November 02, 2017, 05:24:53 pm »
Make sure the 3.9.0 update applies to you camera part number.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8331 on: November 04, 2017, 10:20:37 am »
Hello Bud
I updated the camera, uninstalled Flir Tools 6.3 and installed Flir Tools 5.13 and upgraded to 3.9.0.
A big thank you to Bud and all involved.


regards

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Offline caseyweed

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8332 on: November 05, 2017, 06:14:59 pm »
I successfully upgraded my E4 thanks to this thread! I appreciate all the helpful info found here. I have attached before and after shots, BIG difference!

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Offline scout79

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8333 on: November 08, 2017, 06:32:46 pm »
I was concerned that the Micro-USB socket of my E4 will be damaged when I disconnect/connect it too often for charging or transfer of pictures.

A few days ago I found some magnetic Micro-USB adapters.
There is a small part that fits in the socket of the E4. The larger adapter is connected to the USB and charger cable.

When you move both parts together they hold because there are small magnets in it.
The orientation does not matter. You can rotate the connector by 180° and it is still working.

You should be able to find these adapters in shops that sell mobile phone accessories.

At the moment I do not know if this will be stable for long term.
But maybe this is also interesting for some of you.
 
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Offline onesixright

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8334 on: November 13, 2017, 07:02:11 am »
I posted in the Repair section, about replacing (where to buy) the screen of a eX series. Don’t want to x-post, but maybe someone here knows. Thanks!

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/replacement-lcd-for-a-flir-ex/
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8335 on: December 04, 2017, 12:33:30 am »
Can anyone tell me why this shows up on the final step
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8336 on: December 04, 2017, 04:28:57 am »
figured out issue.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2017, 07:09:46 am by inspectotgadget »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8337 on: December 08, 2017, 11:59:13 pm »
HI,

Thank you for this hack, I just applied it to my E4 3.9.0, i followed all the steps but i came across a small issue...

I have 320x240 res, and new colour plates and a warning that the camera has 'hacked firmware' -> all good!

But my menus are the same and I don't have any new 'measurements' or manual temperature scale despite me moving all the files in ui.d to the correct folder any ideas what could be the issue?

EDIT:
I think its now working - i have not followed the instruction to the dot... I renamed and left conf_old.cfc in the folder rather than overwrite it... after removal of this old file its now working
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 12:24:52 am by ems23! »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8338 on: December 21, 2017, 02:30:46 am »
Good day everyone!
I have Flir e5 (upgraded from 1,19 to 2.3 by myself |O). How can i hack it for now? Changing config.cfg with CRC01 is not working or may be i doing something wrong? 
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8339 on: December 21, 2017, 02:51:54 am »
Browse this thread back for the latest post with attachment from user janekivi. It was posted around beginning of year 2015 I believe.
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Offline dedelekid

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8340 on: December 21, 2017, 04:25:46 pm »
I all,
I just finished reading the whole discussion (334page, yes!!!), and it's high level.
I have some ideas to virtualize the installation of the firmware, if it works it could let us test on any changes before injecting it on the camera ......
For that I need to gather more informations.
At first, could someone give me the USB connection report in different modes? using ChipGenius.
MSD                   
UVC                 
RNDIS                 
RNDIS and UVC         
RNDIS and MSD         
UVC and MSD (standard) <<<
RNDIS, UVC and MSD   

Please, if the serial number appears on the report, delete the front by setting "639 *****" for example

Thank you........
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8341 on: December 21, 2017, 04:46:53 pm »
You only need RNDIS and 'UVC and MSD'. Playing with other modes can lock you out in one way or the other from accessing the camera. I speak from experience.
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Offline dedelekid

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8342 on: December 21, 2017, 05:25:36 pm »
You only need RNDIS and 'UVC and MSD'. Playing with other modes can lock you out in one way or the other from accessing the camera. I speak from experience.

After 334 pages of reading I understood this information. It is only that this requested data would allow me to better understand some USB links with the camera.
nb: I do not have a camera under my hand !!!  |O

Thank you  for your reply..........
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8343 on: December 23, 2017, 02:10:37 am »
Today, such a point appeared on my E4.
What can this be? Dead pixel?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8344 on: December 23, 2017, 07:30:28 am »
Today, such a point appeared on my E4.
What can this be? Dead pixel?

Dirt on sensor/lens by the looks of it!
 
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Offline dedelekid

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8345 on: December 23, 2017, 10:08:14 am »
Hi, this is probably an organic dirt (multiple aerole) and which is probably on the optic of the camera. The lens should be examined under a very good light and playing on the incidence of light by changing angle (the optic of the camera in front of you). You will find the dirt on the lower left quadrant. Clean with a microfiber cloth ...........
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8346 on: December 23, 2017, 12:06:31 pm »
Thanks guys.
I dissasembled and looked at lense and sensor. There was some particle of dust on the lense and sensor. I cleaned it up and the spot are gone.

But after assembling I got new problem with aligment MSX. Too big offset , and aligment settings in camera menu can not fix it.


Is there any relatively simple way to configure this offset?
« Last Edit: December 23, 2017, 12:09:22 pm by dmode90 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8347 on: December 23, 2017, 12:17:41 pm »
Dismantle, remove camera module and carefully reseat it on the chassis. Ensure it its rear is sitting perfectly flat on the chassis. Test and reassemble camera. The MSX horizontal alignment is totally mechanical as the visible light camera sits directly above the thermal camera lens. The MSX adjustment only compensates for the vertical offset.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8348 on: December 23, 2017, 01:45:46 pm »
Dismantle, remove camera module and carefully reseat it on the chassis. Ensure it its rear is sitting perfectly flat on the chassis. Test and reassemble camera.
Tried several times. Visible light camera is placed tightly on the chassis.
It is not possible to displace it, except that I will try later to put something under one side, so that it will be not parallel to the basis.

The MSX horizontal alignment is totally mechanical as the visible light camera sits directly above the thermal camera lens. The MSX adjustment only compensates for the vertical offset.
At the loading of the camera's OS, you can notice three different horizontal positions of visible light image. Looks like software shift of the visible image, not totally mechanical. The first offset is small, and the last is significant. I did not notice how it was happened before, maybe these jumps was too, but the alignment before the disassembling worked well.
https://youtu.be/tZlAMO4zedA
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8349 on: December 23, 2017, 02:24:17 pm »
Interesting. Thank you. I learned something new today  :-+

So sadly your visible light camera may not have been flat on the chassis when built and was adjusted in software. Sadly I do not know where that setting is held so you are left with shimming the rear of the visible camera module  :(

I have not noticed the horizontal alignment taking place on my cameras. Presumably very little alignment is normally required so it is easily missed during camera start.

I wonder if any of our clever fellow forum members know where the MSX horizontal offset value is stored ?
On the earlier firmware versions there is a service menu. That menu provides all manner of correction options. The alignment of MSX may be one of them. Sadly when FLIR deleted the service menu, they also removed some very useful service functions that have nothing to do with upgrading the camera to higher resolutions. A great pity. That is why I am such a fan of firmware 1.19. It is intact in all respects.

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