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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
238 (26.3%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
425 (47%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
43 (4.8%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
41 (4.5%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
158 (17.5%)

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Author Topic: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown  (Read 2632492 times)

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Online Uho

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8325 on: October 07, 2017, 05:00:22 pm »
Can you switch the camera to RNDIS and ftp to it?
Yes. I gave photos.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8326 on: October 12, 2017, 04:52:27 am »
Please help: Is LCD in E4 custom or somehow standard, cause I need a replacement - some salty water got inside and corroded couple contacts in flex cable. Camera works via usb just OK, but not viewfinder.

(I'm not that sure in my ability to restore copper tracks, but had ordered microscope just in case)
 


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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8328 on: October 15, 2017, 06:01:18 pm »
What the "security researcher" should had known is Flir software calling home right under his nose.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg340063/#msg340063

He better ask Flir about that rather then about some accounts that may be there for service purpose.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8329 on: October 17, 2017, 05:29:02 am »
Congratulations!

Let's say you won a lottery!

I would be just happy to have the same sensor noise value as you have!

Absolute record was something like 12.84 or so...
The absolute looser I am with 26.56

:)

You are much closer to the first than to the second :)

I think you are happy now!

Digging this one up from the grave, but I think I set a new low noise record with my E4

measureInfo.temporalMk double 12.779606
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8330 on: October 30, 2017, 06:31:54 am »
I want to share with you my "cool story bro". This site help me alot.

More than one year ago I upgrade my i3/i7 to E4. It was second hand unit 1.2L 2.3FV without modification. Everything looked cool.

I've made backup and resolution hack. After that problems started. Camera sometimes would not boot corecly:
no thermal image (green screen) or test image
no sd card error
app stopped error

After cold restart it worked or not. Tryed different hack. Nothing helped.
Yesterday I had enough. Started my research: My serial number is 6397**** so after few hours i know my flir was 2.11 downgraded to 2.3 hacked (fuc**d), restored, sold to me :>

So I upgraded back to 2.11 and tryed python hack for res and menu. Everything like in description but only menu hack partly worked. No res upgrade.

To make things short I had to run script again (with error thac camera is patched) to get hacked common_dll.dll and conf.cfc in hack folder

then telnet 192.168.0.2 and "stopapp" to kill all running on flir apps

then filezilla to manually upload common_dll.dll and conf.cfc from hack folder

And it worked !! Aslo no problems with stability on 2.11 :blah:
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8331 on: November 01, 2017, 08:54:34 pm »
Hello,
I have with my new E4, SW2.11.0, 1.2L the following problem with the update: Although I can call the USB (Camera) menu, but I can not select the RNDIS mode (and no other than the default). What am I doing wrong, or what do I have to do differently? (No connection to PC, Cam. Vers.:63901-0101)
Thanks for help and Sorry for my bad English, i am from Germany ...
Best regards, Tom
« Last Edit: November 01, 2017, 08:59:07 pm by ZX12 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8332 on: November 02, 2017, 12:37:11 am »
Flir disabled mode selection in that screen long time ago. You cant use it. Search this thread for RNDIS temporary and permanent fif files, and use FlirInetallNet executable with the fif files to change USB mode.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8333 on: November 03, 2017, 03:21:40 am »
I have a problem updating Flir E4 3.5.0 to 3.9.0, Flir Tools does not find updates for my camera. Only live preview and you can download photos.
Can I update directly with FlirInstallNet. What does Force GetHW Type.exe do?
 It seems the only thing that I am having trouble with is (Shift+Ctrl+ Alt)  does noting but highlight the Camera in FLIRTOOLS.  It does not open an explorer window to allow me to select the appropriate 3.9.0.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2017, 03:50:42 am by gregor11 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8334 on: November 03, 2017, 04:24:53 am »
Make sure the 3.9.0 update applies to you camera part number.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8335 on: November 04, 2017, 09:20:37 pm »
Hello Bud
I updated the camera, uninstalled Flir Tools 6.3 and installed Flir Tools 5.13 and upgraded to 3.9.0.
A big thank you to Bud and all involved.


regards

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8336 on: November 06, 2017, 05:14:59 am »
I successfully upgraded my E4 thanks to this thread! I appreciate all the helpful info found here. I have attached before and after shots, BIG difference!

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8337 on: November 09, 2017, 05:32:46 am »
I was concerned that the Micro-USB socket of my E4 will be damaged when I disconnect/connect it too often for charging or transfer of pictures.

A few days ago I found some magnetic Micro-USB adapters.
There is a small part that fits in the socket of the E4. The larger adapter is connected to the USB and charger cable.

When you move both parts together they hold because there are small magnets in it.
The orientation does not matter. You can rotate the connector by 180° and it is still working.

You should be able to find these adapters in shops that sell mobile phone accessories.

At the moment I do not know if this will be stable for long term.
But maybe this is also interesting for some of you.
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8338 on: November 13, 2017, 06:02:11 pm »
I posted in the Repair section, about replacing (where to buy) the screen of a eX series. Don’t want to x-post, but maybe someone here knows. Thanks!

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/replacement-lcd-for-a-flir-ex/
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8339 on: December 04, 2017, 11:33:30 am »
Can anyone tell me why this shows up on the final step
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8340 on: December 04, 2017, 03:28:57 pm »
figured out issue.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2017, 06:09:46 pm by inspectotgadget »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8341 on: December 09, 2017, 10:59:13 am »
HI,

Thank you for this hack, I just applied it to my E4 3.9.0, i followed all the steps but i came across a small issue...

I have 320x240 res, and new colour plates and a warning that the camera has 'hacked firmware' -> all good!

But my menus are the same and I don't have any new 'measurements' or manual temperature scale despite me moving all the files in ui.d to the correct folder any ideas what could be the issue?

EDIT:
I think its now working - i have not followed the instruction to the dot... I renamed and left conf_old.cfc in the folder rather than overwrite it... after removal of this old file its now working
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 11:24:52 am by ems23! »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8342 on: December 21, 2017, 01:30:46 pm »
Good day everyone!
I have Flir e5 (upgraded from 1,19 to 2.3 by myself |O). How can i hack it for now? Changing config.cfg with CRC01 is not working or may be i doing something wrong? 
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8343 on: December 21, 2017, 01:51:54 pm »
Browse this thread back for the latest post with attachment from user janekivi. It was posted around beginning of year 2015 I believe.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8344 on: December 22, 2017, 03:25:46 am »
I all,
I just finished reading the whole discussion (334page, yes!!!), and it's high level.
I have some ideas to virtualize the installation of the firmware, if it works it could let us test on any changes before injecting it on the camera ......
For that I need to gather more informations.
At first, could someone give me the USB connection report in different modes? using ChipGenius.
MSD                   
UVC                 
RNDIS                 
RNDIS and UVC         
RNDIS and MSD         
UVC and MSD (standard) <<<
RNDIS, UVC and MSD   

Please, if the serial number appears on the report, delete the front by setting "639 *****" for example

Thank you........
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8345 on: December 22, 2017, 03:46:53 am »
You only need RNDIS and 'UVC and MSD'. Playing with other modes can lock you out in one way or the other from accessing the camera. I speak from experience.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8346 on: December 22, 2017, 04:25:36 am »
You only need RNDIS and 'UVC and MSD'. Playing with other modes can lock you out in one way or the other from accessing the camera. I speak from experience.

After 334 pages of reading I understood this information. It is only that this requested data would allow me to better understand some USB links with the camera.
nb: I do not have a camera under my hand !!!  |O

Thank you  for your reply..........
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8347 on: December 23, 2017, 01:10:37 pm »
Today, such a point appeared on my E4.
What can this be? Dead pixel?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8348 on: December 23, 2017, 06:30:28 pm »
Today, such a point appeared on my E4.
What can this be? Dead pixel?

Dirt on sensor/lens by the looks of it!
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8349 on: December 23, 2017, 09:08:14 pm »
Hi, this is probably an organic dirt (multiple aerole) and which is probably on the optic of the camera. The lens should be examined under a very good light and playing on the incidence of light by changing angle (the optic of the camera in front of you). You will find the dirt on the lower left quadrant. Clean with a microfiber cloth ...........
 
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