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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
238 (26.3%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
425 (47%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
43 (4.8%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
41 (4.5%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8450 on: June 09, 2018, 10:43:20 pm »
Does anyone still have a list of the commands which can be used to control the E4 via serial/telnet? Either my google-fu is weak or Flir deleted the relevant pdfs.

Run "rls". Then "rset" to change what you find in "rls".
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8451 on: June 10, 2018, 12:34:46 am »
Anybody know where the setting for width (in pixels or what have you) of the spot crosshair might be on Exx? Been doing some digging but haven't spotted it yet.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8452 on: June 10, 2018, 12:40:46 am »
I believe that's an overlay graphic in the qml files, not a registry-configurable thing.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8453 on: June 10, 2018, 02:56:23 am »
My recollection is it is an object provided by a dll, so unlikely that it can be edited.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8454 on: June 10, 2018, 03:15:51 am »
Hi all - Amazon has the E4 and E5 for the same price, $949. Is it still preferred to buy the E4 over the E5?
 

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« Reply #8455 on: June 10, 2018, 03:57:55 am »
That doesn't matter, since they're identical hardware. All you're getting is a different bezel with E5 instead of E4 written on it, and a slightly different config file.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8456 on: June 10, 2018, 11:14:19 am »
By terminal-commands i meant the commands to control the E4-Buttons remotely for example, so you can set the palettes, settings, etc. I think the button-commands were something like "button-e" or "enter-e" or something like that. Sorry if i worded my queston wrong.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8457 on: June 10, 2018, 01:26:53 pm »
Is anyone interested in panorama images?

create a panorama image with exiftool, imagemagick, MS ICE  and php


Hi tomas123, i've some problem with your splitjpg.php, after doing all the previusly steps and edited the path for imagemagick convert, i've launched the script, the powershell return this:
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.fffrebuilt FFF from 12 parts
split FFF file to segments
FLIR Record 0x4646, offset 0x4f000000, length 0x0000
Invalid FLIR record
magick.exe: Unknown field with tag 18248 (0x4748) encountered. `TIFFReadDirectory' @ warning/tiff.c/TIFFWarnings/1000.
new image w/h=745/555
write new radiometric jpg
part 0: 65534 Byte
part 1: 65534 Byte
part 2: 65534 Byte
part 3: 65534 Byte
part 4: 65534 Byte
part 5: 65534 Byte
part 6: 65534 Byte
part 7: 65534 Byte
part 8: 65534 Byte
part 9: 65534 Byte
part 10: 65534 Byte
part 11: 65534 Byte
part 12: 41224 Byte

and furthermore, the pano1.jpg created (i think with some error) it isn't the panoramic but the flir template used in the script.

Any suggestion? :D

EDIT: sorry for the possible stupid question, but this forum and all the "thermal image editing" is pretty new to me :P
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8458 on: June 10, 2018, 02:00:31 pm »
By terminal-commands i meant the commands to control the E4-Buttons remotely for example, so you can set the palettes, settings, etc. I think the button-commands were something like "button-e" or "enter-e" or something like that. Sorry if i worded my queston wrong.

That would be the "bt.exe" in /system/. Or you can use rls/rset to set the parameters directly. The entire camera runs on the registry in realtime, so you have access to most of the settings(palettes, msx zoom, things like that).

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    usage: bt [flank] <named key>
  bt -a <Key> <Alt>+<key>
    bt -u       Joystick up    button
  bt -d          -"-   down  button
  bt -l          -"-   left  button
  bt -r          -"-   right button
  bt -e  <Enter>     key
 bt -t  <Tab>       key
 bt -c  <Esc>       key
 bt -b  <Backspace> key
 bt -    Minus
 bt f1 - Left  function button
  bt f2 - Right function button
  bt -g - Laser    button
    bt -s - Snapshot button
    bt -o - Open (recall) image button
 bt -p - Power on/off button
    bt u1 - User button 1
  bt u2 - User button 2
  bt -m - Mode button
    bt -f - Freeze button
  bt -v - View mode button (IR/DC/Fusion)
    bt -k - Toggle button (Viewfinder/LCD)
 bt -A - Manual|Auto button
 bt --   Adjust left key
    bt -+   Adjust right key
   bt -*   Adjust press key
   bt -P  <named key> Press flank
 bt -R  <named key> Release flank
   bt af - Auto focus button
  bt ai - focus in button
    bt ao - focus out button
   bt zn - Zoom near button
   bt zf - Zoom far button
    Character and number keys used as they are
 Just bt will send a <Space>
     ------             ------
  | f1 |    -----    | f2 |
  ------    |-u |    ------
       |-l |     |-r |     
       -----     -----     
   -----    |-d |    -----
   |-o |    -----    |-p |
   -----    -----    -----
            |-g |  (Laser)
            |-s | (Snapshot)
               -----     
« Last Edit: June 10, 2018, 02:08:31 pm by Spirit532 »
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8459 on: June 10, 2018, 03:18:33 pm »
Thanks, that are the commands i were searching for.  :-+
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8460 on: June 28, 2018, 01:59:24 am »
I just got two E4 with version 2.3 from ebay. One is already cracked and one is not cracked. But I found that they all have the same problem :(,

The measurement function is normal after cold start. However, I need to press the power key twice In the hot start, after the first press, the LOGO appears for about 2 seconds, then the screen is closed, the device does not boot, and after the second press, the LOGO appears again. The device is boot normally  and the measurement function is normal.

the two e4 (cracked and uncracked) has the  same problem,Is this a common problem with version 2.3?

The cracked E4, after pressing the power button for the second time, sometimes does not measure normally. Sometimes there are only visible light images. Sometimes the thermal image is a green screen, and sometimes the thermal image is a large gray square. Is it caused by a failed crack?

can someone help me ?thanks! :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8461 on: July 25, 2018, 07:52:04 am »
Hello! I bought a thermal imager E4 with firmware 1.19.8. According to the instructions from the first message, I installed the software using EzCRC and serial number input received zipmycontents archive.fif. Flashed it into E4. Got an OK message. Rebooted the thermal imager (removed the battery). But when you reconnect to USB, the thermal imager is again defined as a removable device, not RNDIS. What am I doing wrong? Can I flash the thermal imager to 2.11 and make a mod? Where to get firmware 2.11 and how to install it? Thank you!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8462 on: August 06, 2018, 01:36:03 pm »
Hello! I bought a thermal imager E4 with firmware 1.19.8.

Do not update the firmware 1.19.8 . it's a nice old one FW where everything can be edited as you like.
As I know the RNDIS is lost when you take out the battery or turn off the device.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8463 on: August 07, 2018, 07:48:09 pm »
Can you make a copy of this software? I've been looking for it for a long time! (of course 1.19.8)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8464 on: August 08, 2018, 11:47:57 am »
Firmware 1.19.x was not released as an update package and no tools exist on the camera to clone the complete Firmware/Win CE6 file set to an external computer. A simple file copy only transfers files that are not in use by the system, so is incomplete.

Firmware 1.18x was released as a firmware update and I have that somewhere in my archives. From memory 1.18 works fine on the platform but I think there was one significant bug fix in 1.19.x.

Moving backwards to an older firmware version carries risk. It should only be done where it is known that the hardware platform is correctly supported by it.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8465 on: August 09, 2018, 07:27:55 am »
And it seems to me that however 1.19.8 was released as an update.
I think I had version 1.18 and updated to 1.19.
Unfortunately, it's lost somewhere ...
But if you found version 1.18 it would be OK.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8466 on: August 09, 2018, 07:30:53 am »
I made updates 1.19.8 to version 2.3 and some functions do not work correctly.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8467 on: September 04, 2018, 07:07:38 pm »
Hello Guys,
Plans to buy Flir E4 with the intention of unlocking the E8 firmware. Is there any firmware version that will not allow this?
 

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« Reply #8468 on: September 08, 2018, 01:21:28 pm »
As we all know, the flir tools mobile version can not view the real-time data stream.

I found that when I visited the URL http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/webcam.asp, I could get the screen image and refresh it every two seconds.

I carefully checked the transmission time. I found that in each request, I probably need to wait for the device to respond for about 600ms, and the image transmission is about 100ms. The total response time exceeded 700ms. The solution to modify the source code of the webpage failed.

I want to see the real-time data stream of e4 wifi on my mobile phone. Is there a better solution? :)
 

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« Reply #8469 on: September 09, 2018, 01:57:42 am »
There is but you probably would not like it. Search this forum for flir radiometric streaming.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8470 on: September 15, 2018, 11:48:47 am »
Thank you very much, :) according to your prompt, I found the post. I used a MT7688 development board (it only has 30*22mm, 32M flash 64M ram 1*usb 1*wifi 1*rj45), about $12.

The openwrt system is running on the development board, libuvc and mjpg-stream is also installed. After a very simple setup, the development board recognizes the camera. I use a mobile phone to connect to the wifi of the development board, and then I can see the real-time screen image at Mobile browser, this is really cool. The flir tools mobile version can't do this.

This is the first step. After that, I want to follow the prompts of the post and put the libuvc patch to complete the output of the original image. thank you! :)
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8471 on: September 27, 2018, 08:55:08 am »
I made updates 1.19.8 to version 2.3 and some functions do not work correctly.
Good day everyone!
I have Flir e5 (upgraded from 1,19 to 2.3 by myself accidentally |O). And for now i cant apply any resolution hack. Or may be i doing something wrong. It is still no any chance to hack resolution (all i need). Please, if someone knows working method to upgrade resolution? please, let me know.
I already tried this methods:1) https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4  2) Changing config.cfg with CRC01
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8472 on: September 27, 2018, 09:25:35 am »
Hi
Is anyone working on a software upgrade to version 1.19.8 up to 2.3.0 and using HACK?
All I know is (based on personal experience):
1. Updating is possible, increased resolution is maintained. However, they do not operate certain features, symptoms:
 - The camera (up) runs longer
 - Do not operate (free) extended menu (the meniu settings)
 - When you turn on the camera (full restart), it takes about 2 minutes to be able to read and write images to internal memory
 - Does not work manually change the scope of termperature.

The problem (probably) is associated with a file conf.cfc and conf.cfg
 In older cameras is located file conf.cfg
 In the new cameras is conf.cfc file?
 I did not get so far no information on the matter.
 I would ask that someone presented a sample file conf.cfc (structure)

Feel free to common solve the problem

I read this tread for a long time. Could you explain how you increase resolution? Please.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8473 on: October 08, 2018, 02:09:50 pm »
Can someone help me?I have a problem with my E6.

There was a dark spot in the middle of my thermal image. when I closed the lens cap, and it's temperature was 0.6 °C lower than the average temperature. This point does not move, and its temperature is always lower than normal pixels.

1. I don't think this is the dust on the sensor. I took off the lens and tried to clean the sensor, but it didn't have any effect. It was still there.

2、It's also not a bad pixal because its temperature can vary, but it is about 1°C lower than normal.

3. Is this a problem with the calibration file? My E6 was calibrated in 2014 and it has already passed the calibration cycle. My E4 version is 1.22, it doesn't has service menu, can I calibrate the E6 myself?

thanks for everyone.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8474 on: October 08, 2018, 03:05:34 pm »
1. Contamination of the microbolometer window often produces similar spots but they are normally hotter than the background due to reflecting the die temperature back at the Microbolometers.

2. Contamination of the lens block can cause issues but the issue moves as the lens is rotated.

3. 'Dead' pixels in thermal camera parlance are pixels that are either totally non responsive, or that produce an output that is outside permitted tolerance when tested. They could be called defective rather than dead pixels. They are generally captured in the dead pixel map. Pixels with output errors within the permitted tolerances are captured in the NUC offset table and the levels corrected.

4. When a thermal camera carries out an FFC event it applies 'fine tuning' offsets to any pixels that are out of the permitted tolerance for FFC. Hence some pixel stability issues disappear immediately after an FFC but reappear with time as the pixel continues to drift. This normally only occurs with Microbolometers that are not of great performance, or that are subjected to challenging local or scene conditions.

5. Thermal camera Microbolometers can be damaged. Whilst the Microbolometers from FLIR are considered 'sun safe' in that they filter out most of the high energy wavelengths before the pixels, but it is possible to 'stress' microbolometer pixels ! If energy that falls within the Microbolometers filter pass band and exceeds acceptable energy levels at the pixel surface, the pixel can overheat. This overheating leads to a ghost effect that slowly disappears with time as the pixel(s) and surrounding area cool to nominal operating levels. Until that point the FFC event cannot counter the offset at the pixels output. Taking this situation further, if a pixel is severely stressed, it can change its thermal response characteristics permanently. It can effectively become a 'defective pixel' in terms of a NUC calibration. Sadly the FFC event may not be able to adequately correct this change in the pixels output. In a worst case scenarios the pixel(s) can be destroyed or a cluster can become so stressed that even a bad pixel map will find it hard to hide. An easy way to cause such serious damage is to image a powerful CO2 laser on axis with the beam. This has been done to thermal cameras that I have seen and it is a very effective way to permanently damage a thermal cameras sensor. One camera that I almost purchased was a Ganz Pan Tilt unit that delivered an excellent image except for an area that appeared lighter than the rest of the image. Details were still visible within the small area but the FFC found not level the scene. The microbolometer had been 'attacked' with a high energy beam that fell within the systems passband. It was effectively ruined.

6. FLIR used to provide a service menu that permitted the creation of a new dead pixel map and NUC table. This was removed and now the only way to carry out the calibration is by installing the required files and configuration to recreate the service menu as I believe has been achieved with the Exx series elsewhere on this forum. Without a service menu you really need FLIR to carry out the calibration. The Microbolometer has a 10 year warranty on it against failure, but this does exclude abuse.

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