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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
274 (27.9%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.3%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
50 (5.1%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
164 (16.7%)

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Offline Kabasva

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8525 on: February 02, 2019, 07:47:06 am »
Hello! :)

I have Flir E4 1.2L (2.11.0) 320x240. What should I do to show in the reports the name of the device E8 and not E4?
I also want to change the first boot image and write there for example my name, how to do it? Help friends! :)
Experienced people, please answer my questions. From tell me where to find the answer, I could not find. :(
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8526 on: February 02, 2019, 03:09:54 pm »
Hello! :)

I have Flir E4 1.2L (2.11.0) 320x240. What should I do to show in the reports the name of the device E8 and not E4?
I also want to change the first boot image and write there for example my name, how to do it? Help friends! :)
Experienced people, please answer my questions. From tell me where to find the answer, I could not find. :(

Try reply number 153 in this thread.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/153/
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8527 on: February 02, 2019, 03:27:48 pm »
Kabasva,

I am working from memory and I worked on my E4 a long time ago.

The cameras identity is held in the EEPROM and that is what is presented to a host computer for reports etc. The Ex identity in the configuration files does not influence how the camera is identified to a host. The FLIR service menu provides access to the cameras identity and other important information.

Toploser has correctly pointed you towards Bud’s work on recreating the service menu and accessing the EEPROM. He was working with a much later camera version though. In his and your case, the Service Menu was removed by FLIR in an attempt to prevent its use for hacking. From Buds work, it is clear that some parts of the service menu may be grafted in from the cameras that still have the service menu. Modifying the EEPROM contents carries the risk of bricking the camera.

Ask yourself if the camera ID is so important. It is the data collected that matters. If you need the camera to present itself as an E8 for compelling business reasons.... you really should consider buying a Bona-Fide E8 as presenting data from a hacked E4 as from a genuine E8 could be considered deception by some.

Fraser
« Last Edit: February 02, 2019, 03:30:39 pm by Fraser »
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8528 on: February 10, 2019, 09:37:54 am »
Just an update in case it's not been clarified, for 2.3.0:

when you put the E4 in RNDIS mode, use ONLY Windows XP or Windows 7

This because the RNDIS drivers provided with the specific version of flir tools are not fully compatibile with Windows10 and the ethernet details are not set correctly when connected to a Windows10 PC (you can't see the flir network card INFRARED 192.168.0.1/2 but you see as an anonymous network card with higher IP that refuses any ftp connection).

Hope it helps someone.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8529 on: February 26, 2019, 09:06:59 am »
Morning

Looking for some help, been scrawling through the numerous threads and can't quite find the right info I'm looking for.

I've recently got my hands on a well priced E4 with a view to hacking it, I'm currently studying Thermography (Buildings) and I'm keen to complete the hack asap, so I can get out and complete my reports whilst the Scottish nights are still dark and cold. My training centre we're going to attempt the upgrade for me but they hadn't had experience of the upgrade with my version. I contacted one of the Ebay accounts to see if my model can be hacked and they said it could.

I have:
Flir E4 1.1L
Part No 63901-0101
Software 1.21.0

I'm running on Windows 10,

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8530 on: March 04, 2019, 07:47:02 pm »
Good evening.
There is a device named FLIR E4 and after connecting it to a non-original charger, it stopped charging and is not detected by the computer. It seems like a microcircuit chip with the designation 0952 456H (circled in the picture) burned off. Maybe someone knows where to get the Datasheet of this chip to buy the same or its counterpart.

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8531 on: March 04, 2019, 07:48:42 pm »
Keyboard error: Press F1 to continue.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8532 on: March 04, 2019, 07:53:43 pm »
ok
Attached at the end  or here are the pictures

The microcircuit chip next to the USB connector
« Last Edit: March 04, 2019, 08:08:46 pm by panservice »
 

Offline Fernandochia

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8533 on: April 08, 2019, 02:01:16 pm »
Hi fellows.

I recently bought an E4 1.2LHW, 3.12.0SW.

Due to the reading of this post, i decided that the best path i should follow is to downgrade to 2.11.0 and the apply the correspondent liberation pack.

I can't find the procedure to downgrade the firmware, can anyone give me some help with that (maybe some appropriate post number or link).

Finally, i would like to confirm if i am right:  The procedure once i have the camera with 2.11.0SW is to follow the fubar web instructions but using the files that 2lps has uploaded ¿I'm right?

Regards.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8534 on: April 09, 2019, 03:35:28 am »
I too tried upgrading from my current 1.19 firmware (forgot exact number)

Tried to do it but had a hard time finding links that still worked to download the firmware files
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8535 on: April 24, 2019, 03:06:12 am »
Quick question......... not a huge deal but is there a way to hide the popup prompt at boot "This device has unsupported software for personal learning...."? (Screenshot attached)   ::)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8536 on: April 25, 2019, 05:30:27 pm »
You have that little inconvenience in exchange of the advantage this forum gave you.
Facebook-free life and Rigol-free shack.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8537 on: April 25, 2019, 06:21:48 pm »
I found a couple E4's at what seems to be not too bad of pricing [ $750 - $850 ] and have saved up and reached that level .
Looking to see what to keep an eye out on an upgradeable E4 ?
No need to have some of what has been mentioned - with showing documented IFR , I do just independent work both circuit boards , electronics & insulation heat or Air conditioning loses -doing retired , word of mouth work .
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8538 on: May 11, 2019, 08:08:14 pm »
I snagged an E4 today for cheap at the pawn shop.

H/w VersionE4 1.1L
F/w Version3.16
Orig F/w Version1.22 (per s/n list)
Latest Calibration2014-04-11

What are my options here? I see there _was_ a one-click software installer, but it's gone now?

EDIT: This post works with my model:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082

And then this: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359

And to enable RNDIS mode, this was the simplest tutorial.
https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/
« Last Edit: May 11, 2019, 09:59:57 pm by greatscott77 »
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8539 on: May 11, 2019, 10:14:55 pm »
Hah! I'm not able to disable RNDIS mode using the remove RNDIS command from that post though. Does anyone know what might be wrong or how I may be able to fix that?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8540 on: May 29, 2019, 05:17:11 am »
Any advanced package for 1.2L camera?
Thanks
 

Offline CrashCourse

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8541 on: June 30, 2019, 08:31:11 pm »
Has anyone bought one recently from Amazon. As in sold and shipped by Amazon. Want to get one but want to increase the chances of upgrading to 320x240. I'm a home DIY and a Systems Admin who is proficient in scripting languages. I'm not sure what hardware/software versions are on current models and if those can be modified yet or if at all.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8542 on: July 03, 2019, 04:34:34 pm »
Just for the Reccord.

Bought one this week, it came with the 3.16 firmware and I used the 3.12 hack with the 3.16 dll that was posted in a previous reply.

To get the SUID I used the telnet method as I couldn´t find the FlashIFS\version.rsc file.

relevant links that I used:

MAin post: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326

3.16 DLL: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082

cfccfg_V2: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959

« Last Edit: July 04, 2019, 01:38:53 pm by anotherone »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8543 on: July 04, 2019, 09:47:55 pm »
Thanks! 
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8544 on: July 05, 2019, 05:03:35 am »
I'm waiting for Amazon to get them in stock again.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8545 on: August 13, 2019, 12:03:21 am »
Hi Joe, you know how they solved your saved camera, I am going through the same with mine if I can help, I appreciate it
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8546 on: August 23, 2019, 03:53:06 am »
So my camera was firmware 1.2L, software 2.8.
I put the camera in RNDIS mode and then realized I would need to downgrade to 2.3 software. I tried the link posted and it was dead.
So I installed the latest version of Flir Tools and saw there was a software update to 3.16, a known hackable version based on my reading.
I installed it and rebooted the camera. Everything seems fine, EXCEPT that I cannot connect to it via FTP. If I set the Flir RNDIS network adapter to an IP of 192.168.0.2, I can ping it, but I cannot live connect in Flir Tools. I get the error "CAMERA_RTREE_CONNECT ERROR" in the Log window.
When trying to run a FIF to remove RNDIS I get "RESPONSE_TIMEOUT" in FlirInstallNet

Thoughts?
« Last Edit: August 23, 2019, 04:02:31 am by likuidphreon »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8547 on: August 27, 2019, 11:09:38 am »
I had a bit of trouble finding all the right information for an older firmware, so I thought I'd just document what worked for me while it's fresh.

Camera info:
Model: E4 1.1L
Serial: 6392 1xxx
Software (initially): 1.22.0

I upgraded to the latest software 3.16.0 using FLIR Tools.

The secret menu (hold right for 10s in camera info menu) comes up but changing USB mode would never apply, so instead I used Flirinstallnet.exe and Set_RNDIS_Permanent.fif to enable RNDIS mode.

The camera came up with IP 192.168.250.2 (not 192.168.0.2) and I backed up everything over FTP.

For generating the new conf.cfc lots of posts suggested the cfccfg_V2.py script, but that did not work for me on 1.1 firmware (MSX broke, suggesting the conf was bad). I needed to use the older ftool which I got from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/?action=dlattach;attach=84664 . I'm on linux so I just built it from the source in that zip after renaming a few files for case sensitivity: `g++ -o ftool *.cpp`.

I used `ftool -d <backup/conf.cfc> conf.cfg` to decrypt my backed up config and retreive the two SUID values & the ID to add at the end of the config. I also built the CRC03 tool and generated that, but I don't think that was actually necessary with the patched DLL used later. With the conf.cfg from the basic package below, I used `ftool -e conf.cfg conf.cfc 0x1234 0x5678` (replacing with SUID values gained earlier).

I could then follow the instructions from the basic package at: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 but replacing the dll with the one here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082. I also modified the conf.cfg revision entry text from '2.0' to '1.1' but, again, not sure if that was necessary.

Many thanks to everyone involved, and I hope this helps someone!

 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8548 on: August 29, 2019, 03:16:30 pm »
Has anyone had a 'Runtime Error 9 Subscript Out of Range' when trying to run the BFIC Wrapper for batch FLIR conversions?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8549 on: October 01, 2019, 08:17:04 pm »
I have a question about settings from Advanced Package 3.12 (3.16) on E4:

- In Settings -> Measurement parameters -> Alignment distance: " there are values from 0.1 to 1. They are applied to the image when selected but not acknowledged by the Menu both here or in pop-up menu (where we can read old value, 1.5 for example).

Is this a feature for close-up shooting or a bug?
 


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