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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
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Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
436 (45.8%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
47 (4.9%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
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Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
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Offline Bud

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8625 on: December 13, 2020, 07:56:04 pm »
For the 2.3.0 search this thread in reverse order for the latest post from user janekivi.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8626 on: December 14, 2020, 04:40:38 pm »
Hi Bud, Hi Fraser,

do you know the feeling when you are standing in the woods and you didn´t see a tree?
Unfortunaly this is like I feel att he moment...  |O

I checked the posts of janevkivi but don´t find any files for the upgrade of my E6...
I found a lot of the menu hack - but that I´ve already performed sucessfully.

Can you give me please one more hint that I would be able also to find it?

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8627 on: December 14, 2020, 05:11:16 pm »
His work was for E4, not specifically for E6.
He published stuff for resolution and menu (including palettes ) update. What other updates you are looking for?
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8628 on: December 16, 2020, 09:07:53 am »
I read blogs of guys which have asked for  using the E4 hack for the  E5 / E6. And for my (not perfect) understanding their questions of compatibility haven´t been answered like "yes it works".
I have tried to perform the hack already on my E6. Menu works fine. But after the reso hack the thermal image looks a little bit strange. I was happy to restore the original files to have the "original" picture again..
So I want to be sure that I´m using the right ones when I try it next time :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8629 on: December 16, 2020, 02:34:16 pm »
Can you describe 'a little bit strange'  ?
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8630 on: December 16, 2020, 04:09:31 pm »
The thermal picture looks like there is a fog in the picture. It wasn´t sharp anymore and you didn´t recognize anything usable.
Additionally there was a „application error“ indicated on the screen like in post #8148. The guys wrote that you have to remove the battery and then it should disappear - but it comes again and again... And so I decided to remove the  resolution hack again…
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8631 on: December 17, 2020, 04:18:17 pm »
These symptoms are typical when the res hack is not done correctly, which prevents the conf file from been loaded. There was an error somewhere in the process you performed.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8632 on: December 17, 2020, 07:59:02 pm »
I thin I know now why this happens...
I talked to Jannek and he checked my files from the camera... -> It seems that the camera has already been hacked   :-DD  |O
When I run the patch a second time something seems to went worng in the files and things occured like I mentioned in my last post...

Thanks for your support :) I didn´t know that the camera has been patched in the past.

« Last Edit: December 17, 2020, 08:00:40 pm by jam123 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8633 on: December 25, 2020, 09:27:20 am »
Hi All,

I purchased a E5 non-wifi from Amazon - running firmware v3.

Is it possible for a brief description of what needs to be done? I'm running windows 10 on my pc.

From what I've read / understand (around 20 pages on the forum) it's some combination of:
downloading the hacked files
accessing special menu on device and/or RNDIS?
adjusting the .dll files
adjusting the xml file?
possibly downgrading the firmware to v2
running a win 7 virtual machine for the 'update'?

Thank you.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8634 on: December 26, 2020, 05:47:52 pm »
Hi Thermale,

I tried to summarize the steps I went through 2 weeks ago for my E4.
See this post https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3364376/#msg3364376.

Hope this helps a bit.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8635 on: January 11, 2021, 11:40:45 am »
I have a resolution-hacked E4, 1.2L with 2.3.0 that I haven't used in a while (years?).
Took some pictures with it yesterday, and downloaded and installed FLIR Tools on this Win10 x64 computer.

Now, the FLIR Tools software won't recognize the E4. I know I got this working at one point, but unfortunately I completely forgot how I did this back then.
I tried downloading FLIR drivers, and followed other FLIR recommended steps. Checked some old posts in this thread, but I can't for the life of me figure this out.

How can I get the pictures out of the camera and transferred to the computer?

USB Mode is set to RNDIS in camera
ETHERNET 7: 169.254.75.246

« Last Edit: January 11, 2021, 12:03:16 pm by Pig »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8636 on: January 11, 2021, 12:00:19 pm »
Check that the camera is not still in RNDIS mode (used for the upgrade) by using the hidden menu. It needs to be set as a mass storage drive for simple access to the images.

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« Last Edit: January 11, 2021, 02:16:20 pm by Fraser »
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8637 on: January 11, 2021, 12:04:09 pm »
Check that the camera is not still in RNDIS mode (used fir the upgrade) by using the hidden menu. It needs to be set as a mass storage drive for simple access to the images.

Thanks! Yes, it's still in RNDIS mode. How do you actually change that in the hidden menu?
I'm in the hidden menu, and can see the first entry is MSD, I can highlight it, but how do I actually change it to MSD; I think I've tried every button combination!  :o


This from FLIR Website:
Follow these steps to fix the issue:

1. Disconnect the camera from the PC and go to the Settings option on the camera.
2. Go to Device Settings.
3. Go to Camera Information.
4. Touch and hold the Storage option for about 10-15 seconds. This will Bring up a Product Service hidden menu.
5. Select USB mode and verify if UVC and MSD is selected. If another option is selected, select UVC and MSD. If is the option is already UVC and MSD, change it to MSD.
6. Leave the menu and return to the camera's live view.
7. Connect the camera to the PC again. It will be displayed as mass storage device.

Mine just stays on RNDIS setting, no matter what I press.

I tried to run Remove_RNDIS_Permanent.fif, but that didn't work either.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2021, 12:27:24 pm by Pig »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8638 on: January 11, 2021, 02:26:22 pm »
The IP address is incorrect, indicating that FLIR drivers do not properly work. Find a WinXP computer or virtual machine, install FLIR drivers, and make sure the IP address comes up as 192.168.x.x, then run remove_rndis_permanent.fif.

You cant use the hidden menu on 2.3.0, it doesn't work.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8639 on: January 11, 2021, 02:34:37 pm »
The IP address is incorrect, indicating that FLIR drivers do not properly work. Find a WinXP computer or virtual machine, install FLIR drivers, and make sure the IP address comes up as 192.168.x.x, then run remove_rndis_permanent.fif.

You cant use the hidden menu on 2.3.0, it doesn't work.

Awesome, thanks. Will try...


UPDATE: While I was trying to install VirtualBOX and WindowsXP on an older Windows 7 Professional laptop, after a lot off fiddling around, at some point a ThermalCAM driver got installed in the Windows 7 environment and the cam showed up as being connected (and IP address as 192.168.x.x. I was able to install FLIR Tools, and run Remove_RNDIS_Permanent.fif on this Win7 laptop. This set the cam to UVC and MSD USB-mode.

Bringing the cam back to the Windows 10 Machine, it now gets recognized by FLIR Tools.
Many thanks for all the replies.  :-+
« Last Edit: January 11, 2021, 06:18:38 pm by Pig »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8640 on: January 12, 2021, 06:43:55 am »
Thanks for the update, good you got the camera connection back  :-+
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8641 on: January 12, 2021, 12:30:25 pm »
Thanks for the update, good you got the camera connection back  :-+

Cheers!

Just a "for-what-it's-worth": once the cam was disconnected from the computer, and attempted to be used again, it displayed an error message when attempting to take a picture (paraphrasing): "No SD card installed".
This went away, once the PLAY button was pressed, and it could be used as intended.
 

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Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8642 on: January 21, 2021, 07:42:48 am »
flir E4 HELP!

Hello, please help me figure out the problem !!! I have updated my e4 1.2l with firmware 2.3.0 released, to 3.16.
after which I lost sight, icons in the menu of colors and mcx. The image has become 80x60, but when you take a photo, in the info for the photo it writes 320x240, but in fact 80x60.
I tried to do my homework and read the solution on the forum, but I could not find ((please point me in the right direction !!! |O |O
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8643 on: January 21, 2021, 07:52:57 am »
The symptoms you describe indicate a classic case of the config not loading properly , because of some error. Was your 2.3.0 already liberated and you attempted to install 3.16 on top of it?

You should check the Thermal Resolution parameter in the image properties ON THE CAMERA itself in the archive. Not Image Resolution after you copy the files to your computer.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8644 on: January 21, 2021, 08:15:03 am »
Yes, it happened that way, my 2.3.0 was released ((Bud I didn't quite understand what I need to do now?  :-//
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8645 on: January 21, 2021, 03:09:30 pm »
Gave you tried the liberation procedure for 3.16 after the update?

To all you people out there: This is yet another demonstrable case what may happen once you sell your liberated camera without restoring the original firmware. There is a reason for the startup screen on the liberated 3.xx cameras.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8646 on: January 21, 2021, 05:21:13 pm »
no, do I understand correctly? do I need version 3.12 with common.dll 3.16?
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« Reply #8647 on: January 22, 2021, 01:01:32 am »
And so friends !!! after a week spent at the computer, I got the result  :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:!!!! I think I completed your homework :phew:)))) After reading two forum threads 43 pages and 86 of 346 pages. I can say with confidence that E4 1.2L  3.16.0 is getting rid of the official firmware. All files can be found on the forum 100% Please be careful when performing the procedure !!!! Made on WIN8  64bit
BUD thank you very much!!!!!!!! :-+ :-+ :-+ :-+ :-+
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8648 on: January 22, 2021, 03:22:29 am »
You see, doing homework helps  :)
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8649 on: January 22, 2021, 06:26:24 am »
that's what I can't find where the alteration into three crosses is the minimum, maximum and current in temperature :-//
 


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