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Offline janekivi

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6300 on: December 29, 2014, 10:43:31 pm »
This is from Exx files, I replaced many of them.
There zoom menu is popup but I cant use it, yet
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6301 on: December 29, 2014, 11:59:38 pm »
I improved my software
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Link (or see footer):Thermoviewer_007_release

The link is broken, the quotation marks from the url should be removed

Also can you make English menus?
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6302 on: December 30, 2014, 12:56:03 am »
The one feature I wish we could unlock would be WiFi / Bluetooth. From the teardown video I see it has the area for ithe chips on the pcb. adding a chip shouldn't be too hard for one with the correct equipment. I would order the chips and try if I knew the correct part #
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6303 on: December 30, 2014, 10:19:43 am »
Wlan din't come visible... may be first hardware needed for this.

Is there someone who have 2.3.0 E4 camera and done reso hack and
like to have more menu but didn't have tried anything yet? PM me.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6304 on: December 30, 2014, 11:53:08 am »
Thank you Janekivi.  :clap:
You achieved it.
I feel to have an E9. All the menu's are working fine and also can be combined with each other.
It is the almost perfect camera now.
It seems like you want to make an E10.  ;) :D
Very good and precise work.
My respect for you.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6305 on: December 30, 2014, 01:00:13 pm »
janekivi: Is that menu zoom hack only for E4, or it works on E5 too? I would like to see that on my E5 :).
Since conf.cfc for E5 has different size, then it likely will need different patch...
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 01:21:44 pm by centaurian »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6306 on: December 30, 2014, 02:02:14 pm »
janekivi: Is that menu zoom hack only for E4, or it works on E5 too? I would like to see that on my E5 :).
Since conf.cfc for E5 has different size, then it likely will need different patch...
Don't try patch on conf but other stuff is the same. In the future we can try change E5 too.
Delta killed my conf.cfc file when there wasn't support in cfc file.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6307 on: December 30, 2014, 05:01:24 pm »
For development there is more data needed...

To seeing how much free space there is on flash, you can add this line to "Camera information":
Code: [Select]
<ui_model_item type="SettingItem" ID="STORAGE"  label="ID_SETUP_STORAGE"  value="*" nextModel="hiddenServiceSettingsModel"/>I add all interesting stuff if I ever get done something... or crashing
god ^^look at these icons! So far you arrived indeed amazed me much :-+
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6308 on: December 30, 2014, 07:12:18 pm »
I run into trouble every time i try to install the new menu hack.

The FLIRInstall keeps saying that i don't have enough space? :

Received shell command message:
FLIR Command Line Interpreter
Version 0.4.3 running on WinCE 6.0

\>
Connected
Installation started...
Adding /FlashBFS/system/arctic.pal
Failed to add /FlashBFS/system/arctic.pal - There is not enough space on the disk.

Adding /FlashBFS/system/lava.pal
Failed to add /FlashBFS/system/lava.pal - There is not enough space on the disk.

Adding /FlashBFS/system/rainhc.pal
Adding /FlashBFS/system/bootlogo_legal.bmp
Adding /FlashBFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d/ui_control.rsc
Failed to add /FlashBFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d/ui_control.rsc - There is not enough space on the disk.

Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_centerspot.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_nomeasure.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/toolbar-config.xml
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/facet.rcc

Has anyone else bumped in to the same problem?  ???
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6309 on: December 30, 2014, 07:41:44 pm »
Very soon this is not new menu any more... but...
There is very small free room, and rcc file is biggest one.
But this is flash and first thing is to shut it down and take battery off for minute and take another shot.
If there is black screen, you can use fif file anyway. For that purpose I made it.
In your case I see soft must boot fine. But if.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6310 on: December 30, 2014, 07:45:29 pm »
Very soon this is not new menu any more... but...
There is very small free room, and rcc file is biggest one.
But this is flash and first thing is to shut it down and take battery off for minute and take another shot.
If there is black screen, you can use fif file anyway. For that purpose I made it.
In your case I see soft must boot fine. But if.

I'll take the batteries out and give it a try in an hour or so.. Or are you telling me there's a new Menu coming, Janekivi???  ;D anyways, thanks a lot for all your time you're spending upgrading these things!  :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6311 on: December 30, 2014, 11:25:48 pm »
Just received my flir E4 before I begin could be a stupid question do we install the latest software version '5.0 (5.0.14283.1002)'or an older version?

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6312 on: December 31, 2014, 12:33:23 am »
Are these updates to the hack being released somewhere else? It seems like everyone is commenting in pip, spot metering etc, but I don't see where any files got posted since the zoom update.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6313 on: December 31, 2014, 03:42:15 am »
Look closer in janekivi's posts, sometime it is url links embedded in text, not attachments.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 04:21:08 am by Bud »
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6314 on: December 31, 2014, 08:33:04 am »
This is for educational purposes to show you what I'm doing here and how I can edit
crypted conf files. Before there I wrote how they are not wery scary any more if I studied
and compared them with notepad and calculator. There are examples to show this.

And finally I broke this RC4 crypt in my camera with notepad and calculator.

For my camera I can do after that everything I like and change conf.cfc contents
and experiment whatever I like. Look the latest screenshots.

Edit: and first sucessful edit was "zoom false" to "zoom true" without any help what no one is willing to give here
« Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 08:47:46 am by janekivi »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6315 on: December 31, 2014, 10:45:13 am »
To seeing how much free space there is on flash, you can add this line to "Camera information":
Code: [Select]
<ui_model_item type="SettingItem" ID="STORAGE"  label="ID_SETUP_STORAGE"  value="*" nextModel="hiddenServiceSettingsModel"/>

Ok that worked, thanks janekivi.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6316 on: December 31, 2014, 11:04:31 am »
Dear Janekivi,

Your menu hack rocks. It is relatively an easy hack after resolution upgrade. Now my device has totally functional menu items. It is better than E8 now. I was dreaming Hotspot and coldspot feature on my device and now I have it. All other features are working with additional functionality.  I think even E8 owners may think to do the same hack also :). Thanks for your precious work.

PS: I'm offering Mike to make this threat's name as "E4 HEAVEN" :)

Cheers

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6317 on: December 31, 2014, 11:14:33 am »
o.0 ... de-noising?

only for 2.3?
I think, no. In all cameras it's set to true. By default it is false.
This is simplest DIY experiment to do. Delete conf file and you have default settings.
Noise is false then and gone. With crypted file this can be done by distaracting one bit
anywhere in this line:

      CRLF.caps.config.image.targetNoise.enabled bool trueCRLF

After that it will be false and value is 0 too.
By distracting this line somewhere you lost value to 0 and noise gone:

      CRLF.caps.config.image.targetNoise.targetNoiseMk int32 135CRLF

Best noise is by view with hi contrast rainbow.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6318 on: December 31, 2014, 12:21:02 pm »
And now this is good time to reveal 2014 menu for Ex 2.3.0.
But you must agree this is only hobby and you are experimenting with your own toy.
After that this is not tool any more and can't be used in business. This is calibrated
piece of equipment and have factory support what you need in business. But it can
be reverted and locked to toy state any time and you lost your tool.


We steal some of ideas from high end cameras and combine them here.
You can't make money, do work or provide service with "stolen" tool.

If you do not like this you do not have to use it.

New E4 2.3.0 menu
*  One thing I invented here is true "No measurements" if there is no measurements.
I wanted it this way and done it. I hope we can see it in new firmwares, with logo of course : )
*  There is now Storage free room in Settings -> Device settings -> Camera information ->
*  In Exx is no Lock in Temperature scale too and there now only AUTO and MANUAL
Manual is same as locked if you do not move it
*  JPG save quality can be set to 100% by selecting No measurements or Center
spot one time. After reboot it's gone and you must select one of them. This not
help if one of them selected already after boot. You must select another or something
else and same back.

All other stuff is made by you here and collected from this thread. I changed only one
file more to make it to working in 2.3.0
How to use them you find out from factory Ex and Exx manuals

And howto... you can't get something out of me so easily. I want to make you think
and read more. That's why here is no point to point help files anywhere. I hide things
and let you work harder.
This is hobby and experimentig it is. You can buy right final thing from shop but lost
then all that joy you get by doing this by yourself.
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New version 2.3.0_menu_2014_EX_6 have support for E4, E5 and E6 (feedback needed).
And I belive E8 can use some of menu without conf hack (please share E8 conf with me).
3-spot preset is replaced with "CenterHotColdSpot" but you can rename any of them to
"preset_threeSpots.rsc" to have it under this menu button. And some minor fixes.
There is 2.3.0_Menu_Restore.fif for replacing some key files back to original state.

But for other cases when you like to make personal conf file, there is some requirements.

If updated menu is very strange, probably files are not replaced correctly and in
\FlashBFS\system\appcore.d\factory.d  is extra xxxui_control.rsc
Delete this and ui_control.rsc too, after that reapply fif or copy here ui_control.rsc
from fif. And in EX_6 was missing ToolBar name="colorMenu". Nobody noticed?
« Last Edit: February 21, 2015, 07:25:01 pm by janekivi »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6319 on: December 31, 2014, 12:48:16 pm »
Excellent message ! I like the comments regarding hobby use only and the need to do some research. Users will benefit from such investigation. Well done creating such an upgrade for the E4.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6320 on: December 31, 2014, 12:48:22 pm »
Excellent message ! I like the comments regarding hobby use only and the need to do some research. Users will benefit from such investigation. Well done creating such an upgrade for the E4.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6321 on: December 31, 2014, 05:41:10 pm »
And now this is good time to reveal 2014 menu for Ex 2.3.0.

While i don't have a FLIR, i just wanted to thank you a lot for your work! A friend of mine has an E4, but somehoe he can't register here to say thanks himself. So, many thanks from him to you as well! And have a good new years eve, you surely deserve it.

Greetings,

Chris
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6322 on: December 31, 2014, 07:13:33 pm »
And main question I forgot in reveal. What we are missing here.
Almot all is there and all that can fill 75% of your screen already.
What we are missing can you develop and make to working.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6323 on: December 31, 2014, 08:17:51 pm »
It is a frosty last day of 2014 and nothing can be more warming than a set of new hot menus. :-+
Thanks janekivi, amazing accomplishment.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6324 on: January 01, 2015, 01:20:59 am »
It can be seen that E4 sensitivity is indeed 0.1 degree Celsius or better, if to use either Below or Above palette and point the camera to an object that has a temperature gradient. The palettes allow to change the threshold with 0.1 degree C step, so you can observe the image changing as you increase/decrease threshold level by 0.1 degree C.
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