Author Topic: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown (Read 3787172 times)

Navynuke · « **Reply #7550 on:** December 18, 2015, 06:26:31 pm »

Matmoe: thank you for the 2.3.0 package it worked perfectly for me...

max-bit · « **Reply #7551 on:** December 18, 2015, 06:34:30 pm »

At the moment it is not confirmed
If I see pictures which are in line numbers, it will be a confirmation.

matmoe · « **Reply #7552 on:** December 18, 2015, 06:34:46 pm »

Quote from: max-bit on December 18, 2015, 06:24:05 pm

It has to be visible number !!!
And it has to be seen yet this number to version 2.8.0
This picture proves nothing, sorry

Pah! I certainly will not post my serial number. And its ok when you decide for yourself, that its not true. It worked for me and that is nice O0

max-bit · « **Reply #7553 on:** December 18, 2015, 06:38:01 pm »

So do not confirmed.
Sorry

Solare · « **Reply #7554 on:** December 18, 2015, 08:03:50 pm »

guys guys don't argue so violently!

you are both right... I think we will go a long way with slow accumulating statistics

Not to mention that guys from FL** will certainly monitor this blog and can anonymously even post confusing messages

Now... we need desperate volunteers! Who wants to bet 1,000 or above one guy against another?

DaveWB · « **Reply #7555 on:** December 18, 2015, 09:47:05 pm »

Quote from: matmoe on December 18, 2015, 06:34:46 pm

Quote from: max-bit on December 18, 2015, 06:24:05 pm
It has to be visible number !!!
And it has to be seen yet this number to version 2.8.0
This picture proves nothing, sorry

Pah! I certainly will not post my serial number. And its ok when you decide for yourself, that its not true. It worked for me and that is nice O0

Are you able to provide a serial range? Like maybe the 63000 range or so? I have helped people modify cameras that were up to the 62,000 range which would be serial number 63962000. (All serials start with 639 and then the unit number)

-jeffB · « **Reply #7556 on:** December 19, 2015, 02:49:09 am »

I've been following this thread for quite a while now, and the standard response to new claims has always been "cool! show us how to do it", or possibly "it's not working for me, help me figure out what I'm doing wrong", not "YOU'RE LYING". I have to say that I don't think much of the new approach.

Navynuke · « **Reply #7557 on:** December 19, 2015, 03:05:27 am »

I agree wholeheartedly I really only threw out what worked for me to try to help others out that might have also ordered a gift for Christmas. The 2.3.0 zip file that matmoe got while his version of flir tools was offering "upgrade" to 2.3.0 from 2.8.0 was likely an error on fl**'s part that they offered the upgrade to any firmware version other than 2.3.0 and released cameras with newer 2.8.0 firmware before they update the servers that flir tools checks for upgrade availability.

If that is the case then matmoe deserves even more credit from everyone who enhances their 2.8.0 camera.

I am fairly sure that someone will figure out a way to break the 2.8.0 firmware but the fact that it was this easy to downgrade and it happened so fast is a "Christmas" miracle!

Bobber · « **Reply #7558 on:** December 19, 2015, 04:14:59 pm »

I received my Flir E4 today and I immediately checked the firmware version which was 2.8.0.
I downgraded to 2.3.0 on a Windows 7 32 bit computer and it worked like a charm

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After testing and verifying that it worked correctly I used the resolution and menu hack.

All well! Now I have a fully functional E4 with zoom etc..

Many thanks to you all for the hard work.

Uho · « **Reply #7559 on:** December 19, 2015, 08:20:27 pm »

I finished making the macro lens holder. Why make it so hard you ask.
1. Reliability of fastening of the lenses.
2. Versatility.
3. The ability to get low distortion image.
For some works you can use a simple plastic holder. But if you want a large zoom the idea of one lens does not work well. The photo shows some image distortion if you use the lens ZNSE F25mm. Two lenses F38.1mm did work better. Distortion less.
Can set different lenses in different sequences to obtain
the required degree of zoom when in macro mode from 1X to 8X. More expensive germanium lenses maximum diameter of 28 mm will provide low distortion (spherical and chromatic aberrations and distortions type "pillow"/"sheet"), the best ratio signal/noise. More
cheap lenses from zinc selenide small diameter will allow you to obtain a budget option with low cost optics, but still applicable for simple works. Thus, the adapter provides maximum
flexibility in the use of available lenses, cheaper or more expensive.

For example, in the medical - photo palm. The use of macro lenses for diagnostics of electronics - photo phone.

radhaz · « **Reply #7560 on:** December 19, 2015, 10:15:59 pm »

Do you have the STL file for the lens holder available?

Uho · « **Reply #7561 on:** December 20, 2015, 06:59:21 am »

I did the 3D model. The forum participants tsmith35, Solare, mardaso helped in the measurements and tests. The holder contains a lot of detail. Not only plastic. Tubes for the lenses are made of aluminium alloy. Anodized necessary. For of pushers I did the brass screws. Pushers contain rubber anti-slip elements. For manufacturing these parts need a lot of equipment.

ct · « **Reply #7562 on:** December 20, 2015, 03:37:30 pm »

Thank you matmoe, Navynuke and neggles. Because of you

I bit the bullet and downgraded my new Flir 2.8.0 to 2.3.0, successfully!!!

Flir E4 1.2L
Serial 63968xxx
Windows XP, 32 bit
FLIR Tools v4.1.14066.1001 - run as admin
flir_ex_pn639_v2.3.0_update_pack.zip from http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00983732806372988148
Comodo Internet Security - disable

Before the update, I deleted all saved images and did reset device settings to factory default.

Happy Holidays to everyone!

matmoe · « **Reply #7563 on:** December 20, 2015, 03:39:40 pm »

Quote from: DaveWB on December 18, 2015, 09:47:05 pm

Are you able to provide a serial range? Like maybe the 63000 range or so? I have helped people modify cameras that were up to the 62,000 range which would be serial number 63962000. (All serials start with 639 and then the unit number)

It starts with 63967xxx

Solare · « **Reply #7564 on:** December 20, 2015, 06:17:02 pm »

it proves nothing - I saw a camera with 2.3.0 starting with 639670xx

solarforce · « **Reply #7565 on:** December 20, 2015, 06:47:17 pm »

I saw 63968XXX with 2.3.0

Solare · « **Reply #7566 on:** December 20, 2015, 07:22:17 pm »

before or after you downgraded the E4?

solarforce · « **Reply #7567 on:** December 20, 2015, 07:34:11 pm »

New one. Begining of 63968XXX serie.

anonyman · « **Reply #7568 on:** December 21, 2015, 12:15:10 am »

I thought I would also chime in my series is 63967 and the software as I already earlier said is the 2.8.0.

Could someone help me decide if I should be worried about those pixels I see when in the 'Device Settings' I don't exactly remember the menu name.

I haven't tried to downgrade my firmware just yet, would be nice to hear from that one person on how he got his cameras bricked.

Also how inadvisable is it to use Windows 7 instead of Windows XP. The only laptop I have with Windows XP has problems and the only way for me would be to install it on another laptop. I mean I have no problem with installing XP on a laptop if there is a risk with Win 7.

Also one thing I wanted to add. LCD's or at least in my knowledge have a native resolution, has anyone tried to set their laptop resolution on a setting other then the native? So then the higher resolution is basically the native resolution for these cameras.

Solare · « **Reply #7569 on:** December 21, 2015, 11:48:16 am »

2 Anonyman,

screw it... these pi?els, unless they are on radiometric image permanently, is not a trouble at all... they appear there because of a simple masking bug of E4 interface. One may be able to correct this, but I won't do this in my view unnecessary work associated with increased risks to ruin something important in the camera. My advise - live with that as I do

anonyman · « **Reply #7570 on:** December 21, 2015, 12:27:33 pm »

Quote

2 Anonyman,

screw it... these pi?els, unless they are on radiometric image permanently, is not a trouble at all... they appear there because of a simple masking bug of E4 interface. One may be able to correct this, but I won't do this in my view unnecessary work associated with increased risks to ruin something important in the camera. My advise - live with that as I do

Advice Taken,

Thanks All for your advice.

ElectricGuy · « **Reply #7571 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:27:48 pm »

hi Guys;

I think this information can be useful to someone.
I bought i few toys last week on Batter Fly.
You can see the post of the Toys here - https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/the-official-2015-christmas-pressies-thread/msg826013/#msg826013

I few days before the purchase of the Flir E4, I searched a lot on this forum about the hack, and notice the apparent difficulty of doing the hack with new firmware 2.8.0.
I notice that Batter fly had E4 in stock and i thought that could had lucky to get one with the old firmware. And yes, i was right.
The Flir E4 arrived today, and it has the 2.3.0 firmware. Now lets do the Hack.
youtube video - https://youtu.be/uGSiunW_9SI

Batter Fly E4 - http://www.batterfly.com/shop/flir-e4?filter_name=flir%20e4

anonyman · « **Reply #7572 on:** December 22, 2015, 06:50:25 am »

CONFIRMED!!

I'm down to 2.3.0. I also took picks from the previous version. I won't post them publicly.

Matmoe is the MAN.

Repeat. Matmoe is the man.

I would follow Matmoe's directions. Read them carefully.

I used Window XP 32bit SP3 and Fl tools 4xxxxxxx.

It took me about 2 hours to get the nerves to do it and then it took around 15 mins for the work.

Now I will be working on step two tonight.

UPDATE: DONE.

matmoe · « **Reply #7573 on:** December 22, 2015, 04:27:05 pm »

SeanB · « **Reply #7574 on:** December 22, 2015, 05:10:33 pm »

Tried in a VM, but no go, so now doing Windows update on a copy on bare metal that has not been booted since 2009, so I can get SP3 for it. Apparently the tools need SP3 to install, otherwise they fail in an endless restart required loop.


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