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Title: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 04, 2017, 06:23:09 am
Hi all,

I was told because of the hardware change to start a new thread here for the new FLIR Wifi units. I received my Wifi unit and successfully connected via RNDIS. I attempted the 2.3.0 regular E4 hack and received the error in the JPEG. I also had done a full backup before hand which I am attaching here. If anyone would be interested in using TeamViewer to take a peak into the unit or if there is any information anyone needs let me know.
Firmware 3.5.0

edit: files wouldn't attach, so I uploaded them here: https://ufile.io/v878a (https://ufile.io/v878a)
DaveWB

UPDATE: @Bud has done it! See here: Post 1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326)

UPDATE: I have created a new tutorial video here: https://youtu.be/y3_wKq6V6i8 (https://youtu.be/y3_wKq6V6i8)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Chanc3 on April 04, 2017, 06:26:18 am
Did you try the 2.11 hack? Can you upload the backup anywhere?

Sent from my ONE A2003 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 04, 2017, 06:28:04 am
Yes I just tried the 2.3.0(which came after 2.11.0) hack per the picture above,  I just uploaded the backup.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Chanc3 on April 04, 2017, 09:34:25 am
The 2.11.0 hack came after 2.3.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 04, 2017, 03:05:24 pm
You are right, that's my bad. However yes it was the 2.11.0 hack.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: joe-c on April 04, 2017, 07:06:00 pm
Firmware 3.5.0
I guess no previous hack will work.

how the WIFI works? is the camera accessible over Telnet like USB?
can you stream the camera image (WIFI Camera)?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 04, 2017, 10:40:21 pm
Firmware 3.5.0
I guess no previous hack will work.

how the WIFI works? is the camera accessible over Telnet like USB?
can you stream the camera image (WIFI Camera)?
The wifi isn't that great, the camera can create a wifi network or also join your local network. I can detect the camera created network on my computer but it will never seem to connect. The camera will connect to my home wifi and the FLIR will show up in FLIR Tools with an option to stream but I believe some type of firewall is blocking it from streaming or getting pictures off the camera. I was able to access the files via RNDIS on the camera with the Temporary RNDIS file in FlirInstallNet, however I am unsure of how to use telnet so I cannot answer that question.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Chanc3 on April 05, 2017, 10:53:16 am
Firmware 3.5.0
I guess no previous hack will work.

how the WIFI works? is the camera accessible over Telnet like USB?
can you stream the camera image (WIFI Camera)?
The wifi isn't that great, the camera can create a wifi network or also join your local network. I can detect the camera created network on my computer but it will never seem to connect. The camera will connect to my home wifi and the FLIR will show up in FLIR Tools with an option to stream but I believe some type of firewall is blocking it from streaming or getting pictures off the camera. I was able to access the files via RNDIS on the camera with the Temporary RNDIS file in FlirInstallNet, however I am unsure of how to use telnet so I cannot answer that question.

Looking through the files briefly, there is a file called "MaxResolution.txt". It's currently set to 80, however if you change that and then run the hack does it do anything?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: joe-c on April 05, 2017, 06:12:45 pm
If the E4 is in RNDIS only, you don’t can stream. But if RNDIS over Wifi has the same functionality, you can use EX-Tools (link in my footer) and connect to it. Then you should be able to change settings and download images. I had a function called "RNDIS Grab Screen". Maybe you can use this to get a image, but that way is slow.
If the Camera is connected you can change the USB Mode to "RNDIS_UVC" maybe the camera can stream after a reconnect.

And the "Maxresolution" can be ignored, on a hacked and working camera it has 80 too. Maybe it's just some Debug output or something else. The Hack work with config.cfc and the common_dll.dll, so changes of these files has to be analyzed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 05, 2017, 06:40:06 pm
When I was testing it, it was in MSD mode. The stream button was highlighted in FLIR Tools, however it seemed to never do anything after clicking it. I will try EX-Tools later tonight and see if that gets it going.

If you look at my first post the screenshot says that the error occurs at line 80, does this give any relevant information as to what it is getting caught up on?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on April 05, 2017, 08:05:04 pm
I don't own an E4 but have been reading up on the hack. I have read that the patch to common_dll.dll is to remove a signature check. Does anyone have a copy of the 2.11.0 dll before and after the patch has been applied. Then we can take a look at the common_dll.dll from version 3.5.0 and see if it just needs the offsets tweaked. I believe this was all that was needed to update the hack from 2.3.0 to 2.8.0.
I'm happy to have a peak at it if the files are easy to get.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 05, 2017, 08:56:03 pm
I will get these files on here later tonight when I get home.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 06, 2017, 03:32:53 am
I don't own an E4 but have been reading up on the hack. I have read that the patch to common_dll.dll is to remove a signature check. Does anyone have a copy of the 2.11.0 dll before and after the patch has been applied. Then we can take a look at the common_dll.dll from version 3.5.0 and see if it just needs the offsets tweaked. I believe this was all that was needed to update the hack from 2.3.0 to 2.8.0.
I'm happy to have a peak at it if the files are easy to get.
Attached are the requested files, I sorted them in different folders to make it a little easier. This is from a 2.11 camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on April 06, 2017, 04:27:19 am
If I suggest a patch to common_dll.dll and it turns out to be incorrect what are the ramifications? Will it brick the camera? I had a look at the 2.11 regular and patched dll files. There are 2 byte changes. I found similar routines at slightly different offsets(this is to be expected) in the 3.5.0 file. I can attach a patched file but I don't want to brick someone's camera. The best way would be a full disassembly but comparing previously patched files like this often works when patching new versions of previously patched routines.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 06, 2017, 04:32:51 am
If I suggest a patch to common_dll.dll and it turns out to be incorrect what are the ramifications? Will it brick the camera? I had a look at the 2.11 regular and patched dll files. There are 2 byte changes. I found similar routines at slightly different offsets(this is to be expected) in the 3.5.0 file. I can attach a patched file but I don't want to brick someone's camera. The best way would be a full disassembly but comparing previously patched files like this often works when patching new versions of previously patched routines.

If the wrong common_dll.dll is on there it will just show a screen with no cursor or menu, however the original dll can easily be put back on so no worries about testing this out.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on April 06, 2017, 04:40:36 am
OK, here is a patched version of common_dll.dll for version 3.5.0
No warranty, use at your risk - hopefully it's easy to copy the file to the cam.
I assume the other file needs to be updated too but I doubt it has changed.

edit - patched dll removed for now. If there is someone who knows how to package this please let me know.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 06, 2017, 04:45:50 am
OK, here is a patched version of common_dll.dll for version 3.5.0
No warranty, use at your risk - hopefully it's easy to copy the file to the cam.
I assume the other file needs to be updated too but I doubt it has changed.
The other file that would need to be modified is the conf.cfc, I am not sure how to modify that without using the python script
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on April 06, 2017, 04:56:59 am
That is beyond what I can do tonight. Hopefully someone else can package it up into the patch script to give it a try. Perhaps I will remove the attachment for now. If there is someone who want to give it a try though I can email it to them. I don't want a bunch of people downloading a useless or bad file.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 06, 2017, 05:11:38 am
That is beyond what I can do tonight. Hopefully someone else can package it up into the patch script to give it a try. Perhaps I will remove the attachment for now. If there is someone who want to give it a try though I can email it to them. I don't want a bunch of people downloading a useless or bad file.
Attached is the common_dll.dll.delta file that is in the 2.11 hack pack
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on April 06, 2017, 05:43:01 am
delta file updated for the addresses changed in 3.5.0
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 06, 2017, 06:00:54 am
delta file updated for the addresses changed in 3.5.0

Well the python script is still giving the same exact error as post #1, however I was able to upload the common_dll.dll you uploaded earlier into the camera and the camera seems to be fully functioning, I think the next step is I'm going to try to find out how the conf.cfc is working, edit my .cfc the same way, upload it to the camera and see how that works.

Thanks for your help so far!!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 06, 2017, 06:26:56 am
Does anyone know what this means? This is where the python script is getting caught up
Code: [Select]
assert found, "UNKNOWN %s: digest/len is %s" % (name, h)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on April 06, 2017, 07:30:05 am
Yep, it failed the SHA256 checksum. updated patch file sent, fingers crossed it all works!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: brunner on April 06, 2017, 08:00:36 am
Hi,
first for all, great work Guys, i´ve already Hacked a old Flir E4 Years ago.

Now i have a new Flir E4 2.0 L with Software 3.5.0. is it possibly to do the resolution hack and how does it Work?


Thx!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Chanc3 on April 06, 2017, 11:10:43 am
Hi,
first for all, great work Guys, i´ve already Hacked a old Flir E4 Years ago.

Now i have a new Flir E4 2.0 L with Software 3.5.0. is it possibly to do the resolution hack and how does it Work?


Thx!

Did you not read anything above?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 2lps on April 06, 2017, 01:49:34 pm
Here is how you can switch between encyrpted/decrypted conf files. You can try to decrypt, modify the resolution and encrypt again. I would try to decrypt it again, to verify it is working as expected.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 06, 2017, 09:40:08 pm
Here is how you can switch between encyrpted/decrypted conf files. You can try to decrypt, modify the resolution and encrypt again. I would try to decrypt it again, to verify it is working as expected.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898)
Thanks 2lps for that, I successfuly decrypted the conf.cfc file by getting the suid. I changed the conf.cfg, and then uses crc03.exe to find the CRC code, was this the correct process? After I added the CRC to the file, re-encrypted with the cfccfg.py, I then lost MSX. I will play around a little more with it later.

The suid for the camera files from the original post is 22C7E4020050281A if anyone wants to play around with the files

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 2lps on April 07, 2017, 04:46:26 am
For the 2.3, 2.11 hacks, if the common_dll.dll was properly patched, you didn't need to recalculate CRC. That was the whole idea of patching it in the first place - to remove the checks.
Missing MSX leads me to believe that the DLL patch is not correct, or there are additional checks. I will try to look at the code when I find some free time.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 07, 2017, 05:00:34 am
For the 2.3, 2.11 hacks, if the common_dll.dll was properly patched, you didn't need to recalculate CRC. That was the whole idea of patching it in the first place - to remove the checks.
Missing MSX leads me to believe that the DLL patch is not correct, or there are additional checks. I will try to look at the code when I find some free time.
I did have just the modified .dll on there and the camera still worked fine. When you say I don't need to recalculate the CRC, does that mean that any CRC can be used or do I use the original CRC, or just delete the line out?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on April 07, 2017, 06:25:23 am
Hello guys,

I'am happy to donate my brand NEW Flir E4 with

Hardware 2.0 Firmware 3.5.0

for testing.

Just PM to me.


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 2lps on April 07, 2017, 06:42:18 am
I did have just the modified .dll on there and the camera still worked fine. When you say I don't need to recalculate the CRC, does that mean that any CRC can be used or do I use the original CRC, or just delete the line out?

Just leave it as it is. I guess, I will need to verify if common_dll.dll was modified correctly. I will try to find some time during the weekend.

...
I believe DaveWB subbed my files in where needed however he still got an error when trying to install it(I believe related to the checksum which is very strange).
...

He needs to be sure that the original file is on the camera before running the python script. If he still has the patched one, the checksum will fail.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on April 07, 2017, 06:57:18 am
Yeah, I thought he had put the original back before he tried.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Monolith on April 07, 2017, 04:08:58 pm
I got my new Flir E4 (ordered without Wifi). I thought it would be equipped with FW 2.11. Now i have a Wifi-less device with model Flir 2.0L and Firmware 3.5.0

Is there a known 2.11 download source somewhere, so i could try a downgrade.

regards

Mono
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on April 07, 2017, 04:13:20 pm
Downgrade will NOT work.

It will brick the camera !!! It is because of hardware 2.0. The camera will than be stuck in bootloader mode.

so DO NOT try to downgrade on hardware 2.0.


regards
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Monolith on April 07, 2017, 04:24:30 pm
@Xavier64: Thanks for the advice!

Did you got your new E4 with our without WIFI?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on April 07, 2017, 04:31:44 pm
Yes, already bricked one :-(
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on April 07, 2017, 04:36:22 pm
All cameras until Dec. 2016 are hardware 1.2 with firmware 2.11 .

All cameras from Feb. 2017 are hardware 2.0 with firmware 3.5.0 with or without Wifi.


Thats how it is. Try to get a used, old one to do this hack.


regards
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 07, 2017, 05:43:28 pm
A little update:
2lps provided me with a conf.cfc file, the camera has 320x240. However MSX is lost along with the crosshair.

Attached is a photo of the picture I took with the E4 Wifi with the modified conf.cfc file.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on April 07, 2017, 05:49:47 pm
good job. Do you need any help?!


regards

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on April 08, 2017, 09:34:53 am
Loss of MSX and the crosshairs was a common symptom amongst earlier E4 upgrade attempts and was an indicator that the upgrade was not configured correctly to be accepted by the camera. I do not recall the details but someone else might. You appear to be on the right path though.

Good Luck :)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 2lps on April 08, 2017, 12:33:27 pm
How the 2.3/2.11 hack works:

Regarding E4 with updated firmware:

The new "protection" is based on the fact that the per-device config files (FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\conf.cfc, FlashFS\system\ui.d\config.d\conf.cfc, FlashFS\system\services.d\config.d\conf.cfc) are now encrypted and signed.

The encryption algorithm is RC4 with the key being the SHA1(key || "2A00"), where "key" comes from the "FAD1:" device, ioctl 0x800040C0. That ioctl, which I don't fully understand what it's actually doing, returns 0x18 bytes, with the last 8 bytes being the key (not sure if it's per-device or generic), and the second word indicating whether the config-files have to be globally signed or just including a hash. On my camera (1.2L, came with 2.3.0) it indicated that they have to be signed. common_dll.dll checks for the config file signature, and uses a RSA1024 bit public key to verify the signature.

So far, that's all bad news.

You can patch your config-file, and patch common_dll.dll to disable the signature check (and because I couldn't get CRC03 to compute correctly, I patched that as well), but then the camera doesn't auto-boot anymore since applauncher.exe verifies the CRCs from applaunch.dat (which fails for my patched common_dll.dll), and applaunch.dat itself is signed (applaunch.sig).

BUT: It appears that CRMD160 is very fundamentally broken for byte values >= 0x80 (talk about not compiling with /J, hehheh). This allows to conveniently patch the signature check in a way that applauncher.exe doesn't notice. (Unfortunately the config signature check uses MS Crypto Provider, not their custom stuff.)
...

The common_dll.dll.delta from the hack package contains 2 offsets, which patches the checks for:
1. The signature at the end of the conf.cfc. We don't have the private key, which is used to create it. If you take a look at the cfccfg_V2.py found (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959)), you will see something like this:

Code: [Select]
with open(fileout, "wb") as tmpfile:
tmpfile.write(crypt(contents , key))
tmpfile.write("\x00" * delta)
[b] tmpfile.write("\x00" * 0x80)[/b]
tmpfile.write("".join(tail))

The 128 bytes, where the signature is supposed to be is set to 0 (before that is some padding).

2. The CRC03 check at the end of the conf.cfg

There is a crc03.exe, which can be used to calculate it (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg403480/#msg403480 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg403480/#msg403480)). The ZIP also cointains the source code. Before running it, the line with the old CRC03 should be removed, and the empty line at the end should remain. While trying to figure out the 3.5 firmware, I verified that it outputs correctly the original CRC03.

I guess the patch for the CRC03 check in common_dll.dll is not needed, if it is re-calculated correctly. Confirmed this with the 2.11 firmware, but removing the second offset patch.

Of course, you first need to decrypt the conf.cfc to conf.cfg (see https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898)), modify the settings you want, re-calculate the new CRC03 and encrypt it again.

So, patching the 2 locations sounds easy, if it wasn't for the applauncher.exe (found in \Windows, but originally in NK.bin, which is not modifiable. Some info how to extract it can be found here - https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg382279/#msg382279 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg382279/#msg382279)).

If you take a look at \FlashBFS\system\applaunch.dat, you will see this:
Code: [Select]
# Show intro bootlogo and start progress
progressapp -f \flashbfs\system\bootlogo.bmp -g flashbfs\system\bootlogo_legal.bmp -d1
# Start command shell on the RS-232 port
cmd /R
# Register a default user
defaultusr
# Start appcore. Appcore starts other necessary processes
appcore

# Show intro bootlogo and start progress
progressapp -f \flashbfs\system\bootlogo.bmp -g flashbfs\system\bootlogo_legal.bmp -d
# Start command shell on the RS-232 port
cmd /R
# Register a default user
defaultusr
# Start appcore. Appcore starts other necessary processes
appcore

# doCRC FlashBFS\system\appcore.exe 1821696 171809062
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll 1225216 3274495904
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\appcore_dll.dll 708608 1774464110
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\progressapp.exe 29184 524537005
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\defaultusr.exe 5120 1813565132
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\chargeapp.exe 32768 1404156161
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\design_ui_Z3.xml 36688 375538573
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\facet_Z3.rcc 296494 1671048554
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\toolbar-config_Z3.xml 1263 2286214514



As you can see, the applauncher.exe will doCRC check for the common_dll.dll (and no, you can't modify the .dat file, as there is a signature file  \FlashBFS\system\applaunch.sgn)

So, if there is a CRC check for the common_dll.dll, how was the 2.3 hack developed? If you take a look at the first quote,  you will see this:
Quote
BUT: It appears that CRMD160 is very fundamentally broken for byte values >= 0x80 (talk about not compiling with /J, hehheh). This allows to conveniently patch the signature check in a way that applauncher.exe doesn't notice. (Unfortunately the config signature check uses MS Crypto Provider, not their custom stuff.)

Not that I understand it fully (except that CRMD160 is the class that implements the RMD160 hash function (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIPEMD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIPEMD)). I guess FLIR have some implementation of it in the applauncher.exe (I disassembled the code and found it). Also the crc03.exe (found in tools1.zip mentioned above) has some reproduction of it.

It appears that a loophole was found, which allowed the patch of common_dll.dll to be undetected. This was important, because this was how the signature check at the end of the conf.cfc was removed. We don't have the private key used to re-create it during encrypting the .cfg (after it was decrypted and modified).

I think if the common_dll.dll modification is detected, the camera will stop on the FLIR logo (but still will be recoverable, but returning the original common_dll.dll).

The image DaveWB posted (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1181159/#msg1181159 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1181159/#msg1181159)) was taken after uploading a decrypted/encrypted conf.cfc, which is missing the signature at the end. Also, I think it was with the original common_dll.dll. Apparently, if the signature check fails, the MSX and a lot of other features are gone. I guess the camera loads some default settings. Not sure about the 320x240 image. I think DaveWB tried with an 80x60 in the conf.cfc and it was the same.

Now, TheSteve did provide a .diff file. I took a look at it, and I think the signature patch was correct, but the second CRC03 patch was not (it doesn't matter if the CRC03 was properly calculated before encrypting the conf.cfg, but not sure what would be the result of patching the second offset). I created a common_dll.dll equivalent with the one for the 2.11 hack. We are still in the process of experimenting with it, but there was 1-2 times, when the camera stopped at the logo. I am not sure if DaveWB successfully uploaded the patched common_dll.dll as I think we need to execute stopapp via telnet, before ovewriting the common_dll.dll currently on the camera. I thought that it is not necessary, as FileZilla didn't give me any error, but it didn't also replace it successfully. When DaveWB tries to overwrite directly, it gave him some error about no space left.

He will retry the process when he has time and there will be 2 possible outcomes:
1. FLIR didn't add any additional checks and the camera will boot normally.
2. The camera will stop on the FLIR logo, indicating that the loophole for patching the common_dll.dll was closed. (It happened few times, but I am not sure if it was because of mistake by DaveWB, or the patched file was successfully copied at these 2 instances).

There is one thing in the \FlashBFS\system\applaunch.dat in the 3.5.0 firwmare that caught my attention:
Code: [Select]
# Show intro bootlogo and start progress
progressapp -f \flashbfs\system\bootlogo.bmp -g flashbfs\system\bootlogo_legal.bmp -d1
# Start command shell on the RS-232 port
cmd /R
# Register a default user
defaultusr
# Start appcore. Appcore starts other necessary processes
appcore

# doCRC FlashBFS\system\appcore.exe 2018816 4043546286
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll 1276928 1802841112
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\appcore_dll.dll 752640 3188104637
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\progressapp.exe 41984 196088817
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\defaultusr.exe 5120 2422935587
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\chargeapp.exe 32768 4243241340
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\design_ui_Z3.xml 44574 4226502971
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\facet_Z3.rcc 352779 2302427115
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\toolbar-config_Z3.xml 1263 2286214514
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\appcore.exe 2018816 4215410483
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll 1276928 639260284
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\appcore_dll.dll 752640 1574305936
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\progressapp.exe 41984 3268776627
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\defaultusr.exe 5120 3631190782
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\chargeapp.exe 32768 2540764423
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\design_ui_Z3.xml 44574 1589578471
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\facet_Z3.rcc 352779 246149579
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\ui.d\toolbar-config_Z3.xml 1263 1658689284


The doCRC lines are followed by similar ones, but with the doACRC at the beginning, like this:
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll 1276928 639260284

What the applauncher.exe does with the doCRC, is find all lines with it and use  sscanf to separate the file path, the size, uknown in 3 variables. Then  it checks the size, executes the RMD160 code and compares some result with the 3rd value.

I don't have the 3.5.0 update package (neither I could find it on FLIR's site), so can't get the NK.bin for 3.5.0 and dissasemble applauncher.exe to see what exactly doACRC does. If someone knows a way to get it from the camera... I have limited knowledge about embedded device development (WindowsCE even less) or cryptography. I wonder if the code calculates 2 CRC values and somehow closes the loophole, but I can only speculate.

Let's see what will happen when DaveWB successfully uploads the patched common_dll.dll.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on April 08, 2017, 02:42:07 pm
Flir E4 hardware 2.0 with firmware 3.5.0 backup image complete:

https://mega.nz/#!dN1UkIDD!zEMFz6rvrhuIo0desYyJZIvBeApmcEwPNL22Jr-dqlw


about 145 files were not saved according to TIconfig. Hope it will help.


Best regards
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 2lps on April 09, 2017, 09:09:42 am
Unfortunately, the result of the test was that uploading a patched common_dll.dll, causes the camera to not boot normally as I suggested in my previous post. We tried with just one byte change, which patches the signature verification.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on April 11, 2017, 03:33:56 am
@DaveWB,

This is your files which I modify, replacement them by FTP, and see anything change or not.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 11, 2017, 04:35:06 pm
@DaveWB,

This is your files which I modify, replacement them by FTP, and see anything change or not.
With the stock common_dll.dll this camera has all the same symptoms as the other attempts made:
320x240 Thermal image only - no crosshairs showing, no image mode other than straight thermal available(no MSX).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on April 12, 2017, 01:08:48 pm
There are two possibilities: one is your file has been a mess (older and new); the other is the signature mode has been changed.

BTW, your original files link is gone, Can you post the "clean" files again?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sofi on April 23, 2017, 03:15:37 pm
Friends something new? Did anyone unlock 3.5.0?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on May 08, 2017, 03:47:43 am
@DaveWB,

This is your files which I modify, replacement them by FTP, and see anything change or not.
With the stock common_dll.dll this camera has all the same symptoms as the other attempts made:
320x240 Thermal image only - no crosshairs showing, no image mode other than straight thermal available(no MSX).

Were you able to revert back to the original files? I just got a new FLIR E4 with Wifi and I would like to try this hack. Also can you verify you were able to get 320x240 resolution?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on May 08, 2017, 03:56:29 am
Unfortunately, the result of the test was that uploading a patched common_dll.dll, causes the camera to not boot normally as I suggested in my previous post. We tried with just one byte change, which patches the signature verification.

Earlier you said that the patch for the 1st check was correct, But the 2nd one was not. If that is the case can't we just used that patched common_dll.dll and recalculate the crc03 correctly using crc03.exe?

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 2lps on May 10, 2017, 07:21:44 am
If you read https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1181686/#msg1181686, (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1181686/#msg1181686,) you will see that probably FLIR did change the code for checking the common_dll.dll CRC and now patching it is detected. The 2.3 hack required for it to be patched, as there is a signature at the end of the conf.cfc, which we can't recalculate.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: plurn on May 17, 2017, 04:38:29 pm
I just noticed a new firmware version for Ex on the flir support site:

FLIR Ex (3.9.0) Update Pack
Last Updated: May 9, 2017
...  FLIR Ex series cameras (S/N prefix: 639). ...

I don't know if that applies to the wifi model but I assume it does as they don't seem to have a separate download for wifi. My E4 hardware 1.2L (non-wifi) has S/N prefix: 639.

I wish you all luck in improving the wifi model.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on May 17, 2017, 04:43:19 pm
Good catch, the e4 wifi is 639 as well

Download link for 3.9.0

http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.9.0__update_pack.zip (http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.9.0__update_pack.zip)

Reuploaded camera files:
https://ufile.io/v878a (https://ufile.io/v878a)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on May 18, 2017, 03:05:22 pm
Hi guys,

I teardown and compare between two E4s (E4 WiFi and Older E4),

wish to help some people, as shown below:


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4251/34614420821_47fb4567a4_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4186/33903579344_d019a1994f_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4187/34614421091_42189035f4_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4163/34583751462_42060c7928_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4190/34614421191_271df99868_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4247/34746029465_fabe028d43_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4156/34583751602_64016df4d6_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4181/34614421501_4eb748056d_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4223/34746029755_b4018f9246_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4179/34361167220_4a236a56c7_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4268/33938968663_4d00f51a86_o.jpg)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on May 18, 2017, 03:36:23 pm
BOGET,

Thanks for the :-+ detailed pictures

The ASCO was always considered to be a versatile platform that likely had parts not fitted, such as WiFi. Your tear-down has confirmed that belief. The ASCO design was always intended to support Wi-Fi and the Ex chassis even has the location for the Wi-Fi board as you have shown.

You have to wonder whether the Wi-Fi capability was removed from the Ex series at one of the marketing meetings, as either too expensive or 'too capable' for the intended market.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on May 18, 2017, 03:57:49 pm
BOGET,

Thanks for the :-+ detailed pictures

The ASCO was always considered to be a versatile platform that likely had parts not fitted, such as WiFi. Your tear-down has confirmed that belief. The ASCO design was always intended to support Wi-Fi and the Ex chassis even has the location for the Wi-Fi board as you have shown.

You have to wonder whether the Wi-Fi capability was removed from the Ex series at one of the marketing meetings, as either too expensive or 'too capable' for the intended market.

Fraser


Hi Fraser,

I suspect that wireless features doesn't contain Bluetooth, but I didn't teardown that much more detail.

BTW, when you turned the bluetooth section's Boolean function to true at conf.cfc in "ui.d", the WiFi menu will disappear.

Maybe that is signature checksum's problem.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tomas123 on May 18, 2017, 05:28:39 pm
@BOGET
thanks for sharing the images

Unfortunately only the third image is visible.
I checked it with Chrome / Safari / Firefox.
Please check your permissions ...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on May 18, 2017, 06:38:33 pm
That is odd. They were all present this afternoon as I looked at every one. Something has gone SNAP !

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gregor11 on May 18, 2017, 09:00:10 pm
Hi everyone
I have FLIR E4 3.5.0
Please help to make a full backup of the software.
What program to use TeamViewer, maybe TIconfig
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on May 19, 2017, 03:15:31 am
@BOGET
thanks for sharing the images

Unfortunately only the third image is visible.
I checked it with Chrome / Safari / Firefox.
Please check your permissions ...

I changed place to store photos, if you still can't see that,

here is the link to album: https://www.flickr.com/gp/150854135@N06/55Ps0Q (https://www.flickr.com/gp/150854135@N06/55Ps0Q)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on May 19, 2017, 07:06:20 am
Hi guys,

Because the hardware is basically the same, maybe replace manually all files by FTP to others old E4 backup files,

let FW downgrade to 2.3.0(like be cover the others older E4 backup files, and install the 2.3.0 update pack again).

Is there any possible?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on May 19, 2017, 11:08:41 am
This was considered way back when the first encrypted firmwares were deployed. IIRC you would need to do a hardware memory chip clone for it to work. Sadly this was not deemed possible with the ASCO computer architecture. There is also the issue of the camera specific calibration files that are essential for the cameras correct operation.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Tom01 on May 27, 2017, 08:17:29 pm
I made a mistake. I try downgraded firmware to 2.11 and camera (hardware 2.0L) is bricked. On screen is show Flir logo, and not boot. Camera isn't visible in Flir Tools. Only drive named ASCO. It's possible recovery firmware?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on May 28, 2017, 10:17:41 am
From similar stories with the standard E4, it sounds like you have killed your camera. IIRC you are just seeing some sort of boot loader and the camera firmware you have loaded is incompatible with your version of the camera. Other owners have had to return the camera to FLIR for repair at a cost of around 400 Euro's.

I have not read or heard of a way to do a fresh firmware install from your current situation. Sorry the news is not better.

I cannot say whether your camera will be repaired under warranty or whether you will be charged.

This is one of the dangers of installing an older firmware onto a new platform. The firmware you loaded is only part of the equation, there are different boot loaders and different hardware revisions to be considered as well. If the boot loader is incompatible with the firmware version, you get a bricked camera with no recovery route.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on May 29, 2017, 12:00:10 pm
I made a mistake. I try downgraded firmware to 2.11 and camera (hardware 2.0L) is bricked. On screen is show Flir logo, and not boot. Camera isn't visible in Flir Tools. Only drive named ASCO. It's possible recovery firmware?

Did your camera run finish the all downgrade process?
If it did, you can try to connect 192.168.0.2 via FTP in default setting (don't login with flir/3vlig), and recover it by your backup files.
Otherwise, sent it back to manufacturer.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Tom01 on May 29, 2017, 01:38:52 pm
Did your camera run finish the all downgrade process?
If it did, you can try to connect 192.168.0.2 via FTP in default setting (don't login with flir/3vlig), and recover it by your backup files.
Otherwise, sent it back to manufacturer.


"Update"/Downgrade finish normally, but not boot and not possible connect to device via FTP.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ollihd on May 30, 2017, 06:59:28 am
I just got my E4 (non wifi) back from repair with the HW 2.0L and FW 3.9.0. If I can help testing in any way, please let me know.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: marshallh on June 09, 2017, 06:20:07 am
how it works

Would a live RAM dump be useful for extracting the private key, and would it be unique per device? It's not impossible.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sokoloff on June 09, 2017, 07:42:18 am
The point of public-private key encryption is that the private key is not needed to be on the device EVER. The device holds the public key, which can be used to verify that whomever wrote a given file had possession of the private key when they signed/encrypted it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: marshallh on June 09, 2017, 08:51:26 pm
My bad, i saw RC4 and got ahead of the next paragraph. Question still stands though.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ollihd on June 15, 2017, 11:11:33 am
Hello all! Any progress on the hack?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ixfd64 on June 25, 2017, 07:26:33 pm
You can theoretically hack the new version by resigning the update files with your own private key and then replacing the public key in the device with yours: https://eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg465272/#msg465272

Has anyone tried this?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on June 25, 2017, 07:39:33 pm
I have not tried that, not sure I would know how to go about it honestly. As always if there is anything I can do to help the cause I still have my E4 Wifi running the original firmware as one uploaded in the first post of this thread.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WayneD on June 26, 2017, 04:48:02 pm
 :palm:  Please forgive my interruption.
I have looked at MANY of the posts on this thread.  And do not see a definitive answer.  I want to buy and modify a new E4 which as I understand is now shipping with 3.9.0 firmware. Dropping nearly 1k on a maybe is no option for me.  CAN the mods be applied successfully at this time?  If so, is there a place where I could download all the files and procedure?  Still a work in progress?   Perhaps a updated summary post for the layman?  :-+

Thanks!

p.s.  The work all of you are doing is AWESOME!  :clap:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on June 26, 2017, 05:30:23 pm
The latest non-WiFi and Wi-Fi enabled E4 cameras are not upgradeable at this time, and may never be.

I suggest sourcing an old stock E4 and avoiding the 2017 model. This post from BOGET advises how to tell whether an E4 is the pre 2017 model.... the serial number length is different.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg1239478/#msg1239478 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg1239478/#msg1239478)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ixfd64 on June 26, 2017, 06:25:23 pm
If that's the case, then we may have to resort to hardware mods. They can do a lot of things that software mods can't do. Of course, that's probably more trouble than it's worth for most people.

Well, you could always resort to social engineering and try to get someone to leak the keys for signing the firmware. :P
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on June 26, 2017, 06:53:10 pm
Hardware mods on the E4 ...... an interesting concept but the high level of integration in modern electronics and specifically these cameras begins to limit what you can do in terms of hardware modes.

The Microbolometer ROIC outputs raw thermal scene information so is pretty ugly to say the least. The main image processing and formatting takes place inside a silicon 'lump' so no hardware modding advisable there. The Silicon 'lump' also contains the firmware. There is no nice and convenient configuration EEPROM to edit or exploit and no exposed core data bus to intercept and manipulate.

It would be interesting to know where a hardware hacker considers the E4 vulnerable to hardware attack and manipulation, short of creating a whole new processor block and  firmware for the platform. That, I would suggest, is far more effort than it is worth. Older models of E4, that are vulnerable to firmware manipulation, appear regularly on the secondary market.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WayneD on June 28, 2017, 04:20:38 am
I guess I'll wait and see. :popcorn:

For now, it's a no-go. :=\
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on June 28, 2017, 05:05:02 am
You can theoretically hack the new version by resigning the update files with your own private key and then replacing the public key in the device with yours: https://eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg465272/#msg465272

Has anyone tried this?

With the older firmware there was no motivation to try that because digital signature check was disabled altogether. It is probably going to take a new generation of,well, enthusiasts to work on that.
There were tools to access and browse the E4 Registry, but no changes to it could be made permanent. So one would probably need to start from understanding how to alter Win embedded Registry, and if it is possible to alter the public key.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on June 28, 2017, 09:52:17 am
WayneD,

If you really want a decent thermal camera, do not wait too long. If the latest release of E4 proves too difficult to upgrade, all old stock of the model will be sought out and purchased by those who wish to upgrade the unit. Then the secondary market will see a significant increase in used unit prices.

Regarding the future of the E4 upgrade development..... when it was first discovered that the E4 operating system was relatively open to modification, some clever people worked out how to make configuration changes and calculate CRC's. Whilst FLIR did respond by making the process harder, there was enough motivation in the user community to develop ways around any upgrade protection.

I am not sure that there is the same level of interest in developing an upgrade for the latest version of the E4. There are many E4's that can be upgraded still available and the latest FLIR countermeasure may be a significant challenge to circumvent. Without significant community interest, it may prove to be the first version of E4 firmware hat remains secure against upgrade.

FLIR lan from the E4 upgrade gate they needed to better secure their firmware afpgainst such. Thus is no surprise and they are more than capable of buying in advice on how such my be best accomplished. A public Privat key encryption was always a possibility and was feared by those of us interested in the upgrade of the E4.

Good luck to anyone trying to upgrade a 2017 model E4, I think ounwill neeed it. I still ecommend hunting down any residual ore 2017 stock. Her we many companies that held stock rather than buying in from FLIR when an order was received. If you want an E4, contact some companies and ask if they hold stock, then all for the serial number of a camera to see if it is a pre or post 2017 release. Ensue our order a unit according to its serial number to avoid disappointment.

Good Luck

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ixfd64 on June 28, 2017, 06:15:31 pm
I think another reason is the limited demand for an upgrade. Phones and tablets are rooted because mobile devices are ubiquitous these days. Thermal cameras, although becoming increasingly common, are still a niche market.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on June 28, 2017, 07:26:37 pm
When the E4 first came out in 2013, and it was discovered that it could be upgraded relatively easily, there were a large number of people who wanted one. That pool of people in the market for such a camera has likely bought one by now. There will likely be far fewer interested in developing new approaches to circumvent FLIR's protection after so many years of easy upgradability.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on June 28, 2017, 08:10:45 pm
It only takes one really determined person to push a project like this forward. That person just hasn't appeared yet for the E4 Wifi.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gregor11 on July 11, 2017, 03:03:01 pm
DaveWB  could you share your modified conf.cfc file
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Dan S on July 12, 2017, 08:47:42 pm
Hello Dave and everyone. Im Dan, a building contractor from London. I've fallen in love with thermal imaging and the value it will add to my profession and have started looking for a camera.

Very quickly this led me to the FLIR E4 and of course the hack to E8 performance. However I am concerned that the latest versions of the camera being sold are causing issues for the upgrade hacks. I really would prefer to buy a new unit if its possible to hack rather than get something second hand that is hacked.

If I buy a new E4 with FLIRS latest software will I be able to hack it? Would anyone be able to help guide me through the process when I get it?

I assume hacking the unit voids any warranty?

Thanks
Dan

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on July 12, 2017, 09:21:15 pm
Dan,

The latest (2017 release) FLIR E4 has yet to be hacked. This thread details the story so far.

Hacking has the potential to void the warranty depending upon the nature of any fault that occurs.

There is nothing wrong with a well cared for used E4. They are well built and long lived.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Dan S on July 13, 2017, 07:44:51 am
Fraser,

Thanks very much for your reply. I really appreciate you taking time to respond to me.

Yes they do seem to be very rugged by all accounts. I'll keep an eye on the forum - seems there are some real tech savvy guys here in white coats looking at battling FLIR's software!

Regards from sunny/rainy/windy and anything else if you wait a few minutes UK
Dan
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on August 15, 2017, 01:54:31 pm
Please upload some pictures to prove this.

As far as we all know, downgrade with HW2.0 is NOT possible. But I am very happy to see I am wrong :-)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cricri103 on August 26, 2017, 07:51:21 am
I made a mistake!!
My model is 1,2L
FW 3.5.0
Mars 2017
This is not the model 2L
Sorry
 :palm:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: groundhog on August 26, 2017, 06:01:50 pm
I've been trying to better understand cfccfg.py and cfccfg_V2.py.  I'm having difficulty decoding the conf.cfc file into a conf.cfg file, even when using what I believe to be the correct SUID value.  As a check, I tried to decode the conf.cfc file from DaveWB's "Stock Camera" zip file, using the SUID value that DaveWB mentioned (22C7E4020050281A), and I get non-ASCII output in the conf.cfg file.  Specifically:

Code: [Select]
% python cfccfg.py 22C7E4020050281A conf.cfc conf.cfg1
% python cfccfg_V2.py 22C7E4020050281A conf.cfc conf.cfg2
% sha1sum conf.*
cc151985fdc0177f125e8420ced6df4a549ac021  conf.cfc
e3a3b0a4e89b6429cc2618ecb3581ab40230da79  conf.cfg1
3b59eb9f3fc0176acd6a652212a1ab1fcc06f359  conf.cfg2
% strings -n10 conf.cfg*
&YNbM(|(M:
&YNbM(|(M:

The conf.cfc file's SHA1 sum I believe corresponds to DaveWB's "Stock Camera" file, and the "strings" command shows that there's nothing remotely resembling the cfg file ASCII contents in the resulting output.  The differences in SHA1 sum of conf.cfg1 vs conf.cfg2 are because cfccfg_V2.py strips off the tail; the decoded contents up to the tail are identical (and non-ASCII).

What's super puzzling to me is that DaveWB reports that he got his file decoded using cfccfg, using the same SUID that I'm trying to use on his same file...

Any thoughts on what might be going wrong here?  DaveWB, any chance you remember what command you ran, on what file, and what cfg file did you get out of it?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Joshuaheien on September 02, 2017, 09:32:04 pm
Sorry to ask this but does anyone have the hack for 2.11 with 1.2L hardware the links I found don't work anymore. Thanks  :-+  :-+  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 10, 2017, 05:51:50 am
@DaveWB,

This is your files which I modify, replacement them by FTP, and see anything change or not.

OK so if that post included the modified conf.cfc file then the file was screwed. It has bunch of "ture" instead of "true" modifiers  ^-^ . I have attached the decoded file, you guys need to fix the typos, re-encrypt with your SUID and try. Dunno if this will help with the progress but the file needs to be corrected anyways. There was a possibility that the camera aborted reading the cfc file when encountered the error and reverted to the default config. I do not have a wi-fi camera so someone needs to pick it up from here. :popcorn:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 10, 2017, 01:06:23 pm
Sorry about this double Post from the teardown thread but just in case anyone is interested here.....

I have made a decision...... shock, horror, I am going to sell a thermal camera rather than buy one  ;D

I will be advertising my used, spare E4 in the For Sale area of this forum later today. It is running its original 1.19 firmware (the best version in my opinion) so it has the nice service menu and easy reconfiguration needing only FileZilla and the CRC01 calculator provided in this thread. It is so easy to enable and disable features on this firmware.

My unit has already been upgrade by me to the E8+ spec and it has the extra menus as well  :) Fully operational with battery, charger, USB lead,  hard case and original documents.

If you are interested, you can PM me or wait to see the advert and pictures later. I am still considering how much to ask for it and welcome offers. If I like the offer, it will not even get to the for sale area ! This is NOT a silent auction though ! I will be fair to all.

Fraser
Milton Keynes UK
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 10, 2017, 03:12:28 pm
SOLD

My upgraded E4 is up for sale now.......

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-flir-e4-thermal-camera-fw1-19-upgraded-to-e8-from-fraser-the-thermal-nut- (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-flir-e4-thermal-camera-fw1-19-upgraded-to-e8-from-fraser-the-thermal-nut-)!/

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 10, 2017, 10:23:54 pm
There are two possibilities: one is your file has been a mess (older and new); the other is the signature mode has been changed.

You were spot on, the modified conf.cfc  was bad, see my previous post.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 12, 2017, 01:47:07 am
These two statements seem to be contradictory:

I did have just the modified .dll on there and the camera still worked fine.

Unfortunately, the result of the test was that uploading a patched common_dll.dll, causes the camera to not boot normally as I suggested in my previous post.

So perhaps another controlled test is needed. Both people seem to have left the thread though.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on September 12, 2017, 02:12:10 am
I would be more than happy to use TeamViewer to help out anyone solving this dilemma, unfortunately I do not recall much about what processes I did. I do also have a brand new flir e4 that hasn't been messed with that maybe we can test on as well. The unit is not wi-fi version but is still the most recent version.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 12, 2017, 03:04:01 am
OK, good to have you back.

Not sure what modified conf.cfc you used, there may be a chance it was a bad one that had typos in it, see my previous posts. If you can provide the test camera SUID and a copy of the original conf.cfc I could help with properly modified and re-encrypted conf file. Both the SUID and conf file must be from a same camera.

So that will have one piece solved. The other piece of course is the patched common_dll.dll file. Do you have a copy patched for both signature and CRC?   I think just the signature patch alone may not do it. We may need someone to help validate if the file was patched correctly.  I am not sure if just replicating the patched values from the 2.3.0 time would do it. The farther of the original patch wrote back then:

BUT: It appears that CRMD160 is very fundamentally broken for byte values >= 0x80... This allows to conveniently patch the signature check in a way that applauncher.exe doesn't notice.

So what exactly was the "way" the patch was done that applauncher did not notice?  Mind that the new common_dll is twice as smaller as the old one in size.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on September 12, 2017, 03:10:49 am
Do you think it would be best to use the brand new camera I have to reattempt this? That way we know everything is original?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 12, 2017, 03:24:24 am
It is only two files at this time, so your old camera should do it unless you screwed it badly.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on September 12, 2017, 03:34:50 am
I know I was having issues getting the right .dll on there which I think might have led to some of the problems. I'll check my files and see what I have.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 12, 2017, 05:14:24 am
I don't have the 3.5.0 update package (neither I could find it on FLIR's site), so can't get the NK.bin for 3.5.0 and dissasemble applauncher.exe to see what exactly doACRC does. If someone knows a way to get it from the camera... I have limited knowledge about embedded device development (WindowsCE even less) or cryptography. I wonder if the code calculates 2 CRC values and somehow closes the loophole, but I can only speculate.

@2lps: if you are still here - here is applauncher.exe extracted from nk.bin from v3.9.0

Or may be someone else could help with disassembling the doACRC routine to see what it does. This is beyond my capabilities and knowledge.

EDIT: I now feel comfortable to retract the last statement.  ::)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on September 12, 2017, 08:37:31 pm
Here is how you can switch between encyrpted/decrypted conf files. You can try to decrypt, modify the resolution and encrypt again. I would try to decrypt it again, to verify it is working as expected.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg948898/#msg948898)
Thanks 2lps for that, I successfuly decrypted the conf.cfc file by getting the suid. I changed the conf.cfg, and then uses crc03.exe to find the CRC code, was this the correct process? After I added the CRC to the file, re-encrypted with the cfccfg.py, I then lost MSX. I will play around a little more with it later.

The suid for the camera files from the original post is 22C7E4020050281A if anyone wants to play around with the files
This is still the suid when I just ran the same command. I actually haven't messed with the cam in awhile and didn't have menu features. I looked and saw the .cfc was 6436 instead of the 6608 bytes. Anyways, attached is my original backup of the unit which includes the original conf.cfc and common_dll.dll,  Both of which I just applied to the camera which brought the all the stock menu functions back.
Link for backup:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bze3DIT8O9h0bzJYVTlIRngzcHM/view?usp=sharing]
[url]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bze3DIT8O9h0bzJYVTlIRngzcHM/view?usp=sharing (http://[url)[/url]
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 13, 2017, 06:16:02 am
Here is some yummy stuff : a copy of the Registry extracted from nk.bin v3.9.0

Of a particular interest are couple sections :

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init]
"Depend110"=hex:64,00
"Launch110"="autoloadcheck.exe"
"Depend111"=hex:64,00
"Launch111"="timeprint.exe"
"Depend97"=hex:1e,00,3c,00
"Launch97"="timeprint.exe"
"Depend25"=hex:14,00
"Launch25"="timeprint.exe"
"Launch03"="timeprint.exe"
"Depend100"=hex:1e,00,3c,00
"Launch100"="applauncher.exe"
"Depend60"=hex:14,00
"Launch60"="servicesStart.exe"
"Depend30"=hex:14,00
"Launch30"="gwes.dll"
"Launch20"="device.dll"

Gives the sequence of loading of the binaries during autostart. And the other:

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\FLIR Systems\Applauncher]
"LaunchFileAlt"="\\FlashBFS\\system\\applaunch.dat"
"LaunchFile"="\\FlashFS\\system\\applaunch.dat"

specifies the startup configuration file .

Yeah baby now we are talking...  You software guru out there please tell if it is possible to tweak the Registry and repackage the nk.bin ?  It seems only have a crc as the integrity check.

Applaunch.dat is the startup configuration file where also CRC checks are performed on critical application files.  Altering applaunch.dat may not be the way to bypass it though, because the file itself is still signed. If we substitute it for a different dat file that new file has no signature, so most likely the boot process will fail.  But perhaps the Init section above may give a clue where to look to patch that signature check.

Calling for coding experts and standing by  :popcorn:

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 2lps on September 13, 2017, 02:46:17 pm
Here is some code from applauncher.exe, which deals with doing the CRC verification. It appears that I was right about doACRC in this post: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1181686/#msg1181686 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1181686/#msg1181686)

applauncher.dat
Code: [Select]
# doCRC FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll 1276928 1802841112
....
# doACRC FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll 1276928 639260284


Code: [Select]
signed int __fastcall sub_11B68(const wchar_t *a1)
{
  const wchar_t *v1; // r4@1
  signed int v2; // r9@1
  signed int v3; // r5@1
  DWORD v4; // r0@1
  size_t v5; // r6@1
  void *v6; // r7@3
  FILE *v7; // r0@5
  FILE *v8; // r8@5
  const char *v9; // r6@9
  char *v10; // r0@10
  DWORD v11; // r4@12
  int v12; // r0@13
  const char *v13; // r6@18
  char *v14; // r0@19
  DWORD v15; // r4@21
  int v16; // r0@22
  size_t v18; // [sp+4h] [bp-34Ch]@7
  int v19; // [sp+8h] [bp-348h]@11
  char v20; // [sp+Ch] [bp-344h]@21
  char v21; // [sp+14h] [bp-33Ch]@12
  char v22; // [sp+30h] [bp-320h]@11
  WCHAR Buffer; // [sp+130h] [bp-220h]@12
  int v24; // [sp+330h] [bp-20h]@1

  v1 = a1;
  v24 = dword_161A0;
  v2 = 0;
  v3 = 0;
  v4 = sub_1181C(a1);
  v5 = v4;
  if ( !v4 )
    goto LABEL_2;
  v6 = operator new(v4 + 1);
  if ( !v6 )
  {
    sub_14994(v24);
    return 3;
  }
  *(_BYTE *)v6 = 0;
  v7 = wfopen(v1, L"rb");
  v8 = v7;
  if ( !v7 )
  {
    NKDbgPrintfW(L"verifyCRC - cannot open %s\r\n", v1);
LABEL_2:
    sub_14994(v24);
    return 1;
  }
  v18 = fread(v6, 1u, v5, v7);
  if ( v18 != v5 )
    v3 = 4;
  fclose(v8);
  v9 = (const char *)v6;
  while ( !v3 )
  {
    v10 = strstr(v9, "# doCRC ");
    if ( !v10 )
      break;
    v9 = v10 + 1;
    if ( sscanf(v10, "# doCRC %s %u %u", &v22, &v18, &v19) == 3 )
    {
      wsprintfW(&Buffer, L"%S", &v22);
      v11 = sub_1181C(&Buffer);
      sub_14250((int)&v21, 1);
      if ( v18 == v11 )
      {
        sub_125BC((int)&v21, &v22);
        v12 = sub_142B4((int)&v21, (int)&v18, 4u);
        if ( v12 != v19 )
        {
          NKDbgPrintfW(L"%S [CRC]\r\n", &v22);
          v3 = 5;
        }
      }
      else
      {
        NKDbgPrintfW(L"%S [size]\r\n", &v22);
        v3 = 6;
      }
      sub_12978(&v21);
    }
  }
  v13 = (const char *)v6;
  if ( v3 )
    goto LABEL_33;
  do
  {
    v14 = strstr(v13, "# doACRC ");
    if ( !v14 )
      break;
    v2 = 1;
    v13 = v14 + 1;
    if ( sscanf(v14, "# doACRC %s %u %u", &v22, &v18, &v19) == 3 )
    {
      wsprintfW(&Buffer, L"%S", &v22);
      v15 = sub_1181C(&Buffer);
      sub_12898((int)&v20, 0x4C11DB7);
      if ( v18 == v15 )
      {
        sub_125BC((int)&v20, &v22);
        v16 = sub_12844((int)&v20, &v18, 4);
        if ( v16 != v19 )
        {
          NKDbgPrintfW(L"%S [CRC]\r\n", &v22);
          v3 = 5;
        }
      }
      else
      {
        NKDbgPrintfW(L"%S [size]\r\n", &v22);
        v3 = 6;
      }
      sub_127AC(&v20);
    }
  }
  while ( !v3 );
  if ( !v2 )
LABEL_33:
    v3 = 7;
  operator delete(v6);
  sub_14994(v24);
  return v3;
}

Here are the functions 2 calls up the stack, where you can see when the integrity check is enforced:

    v18 = CreateFileW(L"FAD1:", 0, 0, 0, 3u, 0x80u, 0);
    if ( DeviceIoControl(v18, 0x800040C0, 0, 0, &OutBuf, 0x18u, 0, 0) )
    {
      if ( v35 )
      {
        // This is one liner, calling sub_11B68, where the CRC check is done.
        v4 = sub_11E1C(v15);
        NKDbgPrintfW(L"Integrity: %d\r\n", v4);
      }
      else
      {
        NKDbgPrintfW(L"No integrity check necessary\r\n");
      }
    }

Code: [Select]

BOOL __fastcall sub_11E1C(wchar_t *a1)
{
  wchar_t *v1; // r4@1

  v1 = a1;
  return sub_11880(a1) && !sub_11B68(v1);
}

signed int __fastcall sub_11E5C(signed int a1, int a2)
{
  int v2; // r5@1
  signed int v3; // r6@1
  BOOL v4; // r7@1
  bool v5; // zf@2
  signed int v6; // r3@5
  int v7; // r0@7
  int v8; // r4@7
  int v9; // r8@7
  int v10; // r3@10
  signed int v12; // r5@16
  const char *v13; // r0@21
  const wchar_t *v14; // r1@30
  wchar_t *v15; // r6@34
  FILE *v16; // r0@34
  const char *v17; // r0@37
  HANDLE v18; // r4@41
  DWORD v19; // r0@45
  HDC v20; // r4@51
  FILE *v21; // r6@56
  int v22; // r4@57
  int v23; // r7@57
  int v24; // [sp+18h] [bp-A70h]@1
  HKEY hKey; // [sp+1Ch] [bp-A6Ch]@1
  DWORD cbData; // [sp+20h] [bp-A68h]@3
  int v27; // [sp+24h] [bp-A64h]@7
  DWORD dw; // [sp+28h] [bp-A60h]@1
  DWORD Type; // [sp+2Ch] [bp-A5Ch]@22
  CHAR v30[4]; // [sp+30h] [bp-A58h]@51
  struct _PROCESS_INFORMATION v31; // [sp+34h] [bp-A54h]@49
  HANDLE hObjects; // [sp+44h] [bp-A44h]@49
  HANDLE v33; // [sp+48h] [bp-A40h]@51
  char OutBuf; // [sp+4Ch] [bp-A3Ch]@41
  int v35; // [sp+50h] [bp-A38h]@42
  wchar_t pszImageName; // [sp+64h] [bp-A24h]@57
  wchar_t Data[1024]; // [sp+264h] [bp-824h]@17
  int v38; // [sp+A64h] [bp-24h]@1

  v2 = a2;
  v3 = a1;
  v38 = dword_161A0;
  hKey = 0;
  v4 = 1;
  dw = 0;
  if ( !KernelIoControl(16850952, 0, 0, &v24) )
    goto LABEL_76;
  v5 = v24 == 1;
  if ( v24 == 1 )
    v5 = cbData == 4;
  if ( v5 )
    v6 = 1;
  else
LABEL_76:
    v6 = 0;
  v24 = v6;
  v7 = KernelIoControl(16850988, 0, 0, &v27);
  v8 = v24;
  v9 = v7;
  v10 = v7 && v27 && !v24;
  v27 = v10;
  if ( v3 < 2 )
  {
    printf("Usage: applauncher [options]\n-f <filename> Execute commands in file <filename>\n-r Execute file specified by registry setting.\n(number) Automatic mode (OS internal).\n");
    sub_14994(v38);
    return 1;
  }
  if ( v3 != 2 )
  {
    if ( v3 != 3 || wcscmp(L"-f", *(const wchar_t **)(v2 + 4)) )
    {
      v13 = "Bad Argument(s)! Use \"applauncher\" for help.\n";
      goto LABEL_72;
    }
    v14 = *(const wchar_t **)(v2 + 8);
    v12 = 0;
    wcscpy(Data, v14);
    goto LABEL_31;
  }
  if ( !wcscmp(L"-r", *(const wchar_t **)(v2 + 4)) )
  {
    v12 = 0;
  }
  else
  {
    swscanf(*(const wchar_t **)(v2 + 4), L"%[0-9]", &Data[512]);
    if ( wcscmp(&Data[512], *(const wchar_t **)(v2 + 4)) )
    {
      v13 = "Bad Argument! Use \"applauncher\" for help.\n";
      goto LABEL_72;
    }
    swscanf(*(const wchar_t **)(v2 + 4), L"%d", &dw);
    v12 = 1;
  }
  if ( !RegOpenKeyExW(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, L"SOFTWARE\\FLIR Systems\\Applauncher", 0, 0, &hKey) )
  {
    cbData = 510;
    if ( RegQueryValueExW(hKey, L"LaunchFile", 0, &Type, (LPBYTE)Data, &cbData) )
      goto LABEL_39;
    if ( Type != 1 )
      goto LABEL_39;
    cbData = 510;
    if ( RegQueryValueExW(hKey, L"LaunchFileAlt", 0, &Type, (LPBYTE)&Data[256], &cbData) || Type != 1 )
      goto LABEL_39;
    RegCloseKey(hKey);
    v8 = v24;
LABEL_31:
    if ( v12 )
    {
      Sleep(0x64u);
      v8 = v24;
    }
    if ( v8 )
      goto LABEL_77;
    v15 = Data;
    v16 = wfopen(Data, L"r");
    if ( !v16 )
    {
      v15 = &Data[256];
      v16 = wfopen(&Data[256], L"r");
      if ( !v16 )
      {
        if ( !v12 )
        {
          v17 = "Failed to open the launch specification file. Aborting!\n";
LABEL_38:
          printf(v17);
LABEL_39:
          RegCloseKey(hKey);
          goto LABEL_73;
        }
        goto LABEL_40;
      }
    }
    fclose(v16);
    v18 = CreateFileW(L"FAD1:", 0, 0, 0, 3u, 0x80u, 0);
    if ( DeviceIoControl(v18, 0x800040C0, 0, 0, &OutBuf, 0x18u, 0, 0) )
    {
      if ( v35 )
      {
        v4 = sub_11E1C(v15);
        NKDbgPrintfW(L"Integrity: %d\r\n", v4);
      }
      else
      {
        NKDbgPrintfW(L"No integrity check necessary\r\n");
      }
    }
    else
    {
      v19 = GetLastError();
      NKDbgPrintfW(L"FAD call fails:%d hndl:%d err:%d\r\n", 0, v18, v19);
    }
    CloseHandle(v18);
    if ( v24 )
      goto LABEL_77;
    if ( !v9 )
      goto LABEL_78;
    if ( !v4 )
      goto LABEL_54;
    NKDbgPrintfW(L"APPLAUNCHER: Starting usb charge App \r\n");
    hObjects = CreateEventW(0, 0, 0, L"ChargeAppFinished");
    if ( CreateProcessW(L"ChargeApp.exe", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &v31) && v27 )
    {
      *(_DWORD *)v30 = 2;
      v20 = CreateDCW(0, 0, 0, 0);
      CreateProcessW(L"cmd.exe", L"/R", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &v31);
      v33 = v31.hProcess;
      WaitForMultipleObjects(2u, &hObjects, 0, 0xFFFFFFFF);
      NKDbgPrintfW(L"APPLAUNCHER: Usb charging finished\r\n");
      ExtEscape(v20, 100037, 4, v30, 0, 0);
    }
    CloseHandle(v31.hProcess);
    CloseHandle(v31.hThread);
    if ( v24 )
    {
LABEL_77:
      CreateProcessW(L"cmd.exe", L"/R", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &v31);
    }
    else
    {
LABEL_78:
      if ( !v4 )
      {
LABEL_54:
        if ( !v12 )
        {
          v17 = "APPLAUNCHER: Refuses to run launch specification file. Aborting!\r\n";
          goto LABEL_38;
        }
LABEL_40:
        SignalStarted(dw);
        goto LABEL_39;
      }
      v21 = wfopen(v15, L"r");
      while ( !feof(v21) )
      {
        fwscanf(v21, L"%[\t\v\n\r\f]", &pszImageName);
        v22 = fwscanf(v21, L"%[^ #\t\v\n\r\f]", &pszImageName);
        v23 = fwscanf(v21, L"%[^#\t\v\n\r\f]", &Data[768]);
        if ( v22 > 0 && wcslen(&pszImageName) >= 1 )
        {
          if ( !v27 || wcsicmp(&pszImageName, L"cmd") )
          {
            if ( v23 <= 0 )
              CreateProcessW(&pszImageName, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &v31);
            else
              CreateProcessW(&pszImageName, &Data[768], 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &v31);
            continue;
          }
          NKDbgPrintfW(L"APPLAUNCHER: Not starting duplicate cmd.exe \r\n");
        }
        fwscanf(v21, L"%[^\t\v\n\r\f]", &pszImageName);
      }
    }
    if ( v12 )
      SignalStarted(dw);
    goto LABEL_73;
  }
  if ( !v12 )
  {
    v13 = "Failed to open registry settings. Aborting!\n";
LABEL_72:
    printf(v13);
  }
LABEL_73:
  sub_14994(v38);
  return 0;
}

Basically it is doing the old CRC verification (first checks the file size) and then another verification, which appears to be a CRC32, based on this:
sub_12898((int)&v20, 0x4C11DB7);

A quick check with Google for 0x04C11DB7 shows that it is the Normal Polynomial representation for CRC-32 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_redundancy_check (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_redundancy_check)).

So in order for the old hack method to work, either the common_dll.dll patch should be made in such a way that it is not detected by both CRC checks (although both have weak points, not sure how easy it is to circumvent both at the same time), or the applauncher.dat is modified to remove the doACRC lines (if can be modified, we could have removed the old doCRC, so I guess this is not an easy option)

I don't have much knowledge and time for this, so this is the best I can do to help.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on September 13, 2017, 09:56:13 pm
I got a 2.0L 3.9.0 with WIFI and I am also curious about this.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 13, 2017, 10:21:14 pm
Hardware 1.2L seems too early for FW 3.9 from the factory. It suggests maybe the camera had a firmware upgrade at some point in time. In the past, cameras that were upgraded with newer firmware were able to be returned to an older firmware as other countermeasures were not present in their file system. Without knowing the firmware that was originally installed in the HW1.2L camera when it was manufactured, it is hard to know which firmware it could be reverted to.

As has been stated in previous comments on this forum. If an attempt is made to revert the 2017 model E4 to an earlier firmware, it gets bricked ! There appears to be an incompatability between the 2017 bootloader or other software, and earlier firmware versions. A bricked E4 needs to be repaired by FLIR at a cost of approx 400 Euros.

Be careful trying to revert to earlier firmware, it can all go terribly wrong with no path back to where you started. Firmware reflashing is a very risky process, especially between hardware revisions.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 16, 2017, 04:18:32 am
Here is some code from applauncher.exe,

Thanks 2lps. I left you a personal message - can you pls check.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 22, 2017, 02:15:42 pm

Not that I understand it fully (except that CRMD160 is the class that implements the RMD160 hash function (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIPEMD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIPEMD)). I guess FLIR have some implementation of it in the applauncher.exe (I disassembled the code and found it). Also the crc03.exe (found in tools1.zip mentioned above) has some reproduction of it.

@lps Are you capable of lifting that CRMD160  code from applauncher and compile an executable for experimenting (file name in, crc value out) , or just the related code listing so someone else perhaps can help compile into an executable?  I tried different ways but I was unsuccessful to reproduce the crc values from applaunch.dat. The CRC03.exe  produces a different value.
I only need the stuff for the "#do CRC" part of it.  For the second part "#do ACRC" I found a software to generate the same values as in the applaunch.dat
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 04, 2017, 06:45:30 am
Pwned !!!

 v3.5.0 is now history  :box:

There is first successfully updated camera out there. Someone may post pictures soon.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Chanc3 on October 04, 2017, 07:04:15 am
Pwned !!!

 v3.5.0 is now history  :box:

There is first successfully updated camera out there. Someone may post pictures soon.  :popcorn:
Great news! I can start keeping an eye out for a new version for cheap then!

Well done all!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 04, 2017, 10:47:19 am
Does the new approach permit the addition of the extended menu's as well as the upgrade of the resolution ? I can certainly recommend the added menu's that provide some very useful functionality in the E8+ configuration.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 04, 2017, 01:47:17 pm
Do not know yet about extending the menu, i do not have a 2017 camera to work with. The res work was done in blind mode with test information sent to an other person who had one.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 05, 2017, 03:39:00 am
Based on your earlier post you downgraded from 3.5.0 to 2.3.0. You are not running 3.5.0 firmware.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on October 06, 2017, 02:20:08 pm
Downgrade will NOT work.

It will brick the camera !!! It is because of hardware 2.0. The camera will than be stuck in bootloader mode.

so DO NOT try to downgrade on hardware 2.0.


regards

Pwned !!!

 v3.5.0 is now history  :box:

There is first successfully updated camera out there. Someone may post pictures soon.  :popcorn:


Ooh! is that real?

Sorry that I have a little doubts.

Are you sure that you can actually downgrade the FW 3.x 2.0L to 2.x 1.2L ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 06, 2017, 02:59:19 pm
No i am not sure, because this is not what iam doing. I am not downgrading the fw version, i am working with the 3.5.0 itself.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on October 07, 2017, 03:27:52 am
Hi,

So you mean that your camera FW version is original 3.5.0 2.0L,

and the Res has been succeeded hack, right?   :clap:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cricri103 on October 07, 2017, 05:30:25 am
Hello Bud
you can confirm the hack fw 3.5.0
 with a picture !!!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on October 07, 2017, 10:30:16 am
I'm trying to hack wifi version via eeprom at service menu, but the password is not 1235 anymore.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 07, 2017, 01:34:03 pm
BOGET,

Just as well.... you really do not want to mess with that EEPROMS contents. It has not previously needed any changes as it does not enable hacking, just unit serial number and model details. Messing with its contents can seriously effect your cameras health !

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on October 07, 2017, 06:47:01 pm
It ain't that bad,

If you can modify the camera part number to E8,

you might be able to upgrade it's resolution to E8 in normal way by using(deceive) flir tools,

you don't even to hack it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 07, 2017, 07:04:00 pm
Note normal firmware upgrades do not modify the key configuration files so FLIRTools would not upgrade the configuration files for you. The configuration files would hold the camera at E4 resolution.

Previous, very knowledgeable, hackers of the camera have warned against messing around with the contents of the EEPROM. They had concerns, though I know not what they are.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 11, 2017, 08:16:30 am
I think I did a little better and went after v3.9.0  ::)

I am still working on it but a proof of concept is attached. The 2017 version has joined the club  :-+

Those who want to give themselves a nice Christmas present may want to go and grab the 3.9.0 update pack (a link was posted somewhere in this or E4 teardown thread) in case it gets pulled from the Net.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 11, 2017, 10:22:00 am
Excellent work  :-+

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: JanHenrik on October 11, 2017, 11:22:49 am
Very nice!  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 11, 2017, 01:15:43 pm
I gather this is great news, but I don't know how great because I am a noob!
Does it mean that my 2017 Wifi E4 can be hacked?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 11, 2017, 01:48:33 pm
Yes if it is hardware 2.0 and software v3.9.0
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 11, 2017, 01:55:11 pm
When the camera came up with enhanced res for the first time, i was stunned with the quality of the image. Subjectively it appeared to have less noise than the older E4 and less artifacts to calibrate out from cold start. Perhaps they improved the microbolometer a little bit.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 11, 2017, 02:28:42 pm
Mine is indeed 2.0L and 3.9.0.
Where do I begin? This is quite overwhelming for someone like me who doesn't know the first thing about programming. I would be very grateful for any advice!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 11, 2017, 04:48:08 pm
 Begin from learning how to get an FTP connection to the camera to get access to the camera files. You will need this for anything else.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 11, 2017, 07:44:45 pm
Thank you, Bud.
I have Windows 7 64 bit, so is it still the case (like a 2015 tutorial says) that I need to run a different operating system?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 11, 2017, 08:13:31 pm
I did it on Win 7 64-bit.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 11, 2017, 09:18:22 pm
I'm in the same position as you, Cricri.
There are over 300 pages in the usual e4 forum, so an updated step-by-step (just for 3.9.0) would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 12, 2017, 07:55:06 am
Once you know how to talk to the camera using an FTP software , learn how to locate, decrypt and re-encrypt the config file. Download and use this tool for decryption/encryption:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1180237/#msg1180237 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1180237/#msg1180237)

(make a full backup of the camera flash drive first)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 12, 2017, 06:17:11 pm
For any other noobs like me, I offer this useful article:
http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)
So far it has helped me to switch to RNDIS mode, use Filezilla with the username Flir and password 3vlig, and backup the Flir E4 files. Obviously those simple steps apply to all firmwares, so at what step does the process become different for 3.9.0? I am hesitant to proceed lest this article be outdated.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on October 13, 2017, 10:15:32 am
About to buy a FLIR E4 (with or without WiFi I don't know yet..).

I'm also a noob and look forward to instructions to "enhance" it!  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 13, 2017, 03:37:41 pm
You have to wait a little bit, there are only so many hours in a day.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 14, 2017, 06:07:40 am
I want to know with what file did you decrypt
Conf.cfg

I gave a link in my reply #135 above, did you read it ?

you decrypt conf.cfc, not .cfg

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gregor11 on October 14, 2017, 12:07:19 pm
Hello cricri103
Conf.cfc decrypt / encrypt cfccfg_V2.py. You have to have this module imported into Python.
You place the conf.cfc in the python root directory, open the cmd command line, enter the python folder and paste (cfccfg_V2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfc conf.cfg) enter, xx = your suid.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg594600/#msg594600 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg594600/#msg594600)
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/6575/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/6575/)


PW. Sorry for my English
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 14, 2017, 03:31:26 pm
Yikes, this is a daunting task!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 15, 2017, 06:57:26 am
Why don't you try and tell us.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 15, 2017, 07:13:01 am
Interesting discovery!

One more shooting mode has been liberated - "Sport", which in turn brought a new palette with it - "Medical". Not sure at the moment what it is for but my guess is the Sport mode could be for taking pictures of fast moving objects. A controlled experiment to confirm this would be needed. But together with the Medical palette it make sense that they may be used for medical termography, perhaps by medics of sport teams or by medical researches. Below are samples of static objects how a hand and  alien cat look under the medical palette.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=360862;image)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 15, 2017, 07:34:10 am
Also interesting:

while playing around with recording videos via USB, discovered that the camera responds to the DirectShow driver settings, Zoom specifically. When change the slider control on the PC the camera changed Zoom level. Cool!  Trying to change Brightness control caused the camera temperature scale to go crazy.  Might have something more to discover...

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on October 17, 2017, 02:26:28 am
Interesting discovery!

One more shooting mode has been liberated - "Sport", which in turn brought a new palette with it - "Medical". Not sure at the moment what it is for but my guess is the Sport mode could be for taking pictures of fast moving objects. A controlled experiment to confirm this would be needed. But together with the Medical palette it make sense that they may be used for medical termography, perhaps by medics of sport teams or by medical researches. Below are samples of static objects how a hand and  alien cat look under the medical palette.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=360862;image)
Looking awesome!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 18, 2017, 07:03:29 am
Just realized it is the 4th anniversary of E4 liberation. Mikeselectricstuff published his info in 2013 October. Now it is 2017 October. 4 years and they can't plug the leak  :P
Several generations of firmware has been set free and now moving to liberating new hardware platform. Let's see what we've got here...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 18, 2017, 07:09:00 am
Another feature has been liberated.  :)
The 2017 E4 can now add notes to pictures. They become part of the EXIF header and can be viewed with Exif Tool or other Exif viewer , as well as should be visible in Flir Tools software.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=361659;image)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 18, 2017, 07:15:56 am
And a special feature from Bud, not being present in Ex series cameras: graphics overlay toggle using the Back button. Toggle the button to enable/disable the overlay. Very useful if only want to see the scene with no temperature scale and stuff. Provides 100% use of the screen real estate. :-+
You are welcome.   :D

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=361666;image)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on October 18, 2017, 09:32:25 am
This keeps getting better..

You're sure adding suspension here! 8)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Chanc3 on October 18, 2017, 09:29:20 pm
Whilst this might be frustrating for some, I appreciate Bud taking his time with this. I'd much rather see a nice swanky hack published, that results in less bricked devices.

That is of course, if bud decides to share!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 19, 2017, 05:22:29 am
Don't worry, it is coming, but yes what I am doing it is not as simple as patching a couple bytes and all of a sudden all opens up. This is a tedious process of guessing, tweaking config files, implanting code from other device models, thinking, endless trying and some time failing. You do not want to end up with an expensive brick, I do not either.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on October 19, 2017, 05:28:40 am
 :-+ :-+
keep on going, that looks really great
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 19, 2017, 09:13:23 am
We are so sorry you lose your time. It is our guess it was your own choice to do so and not wait.

Tip: restore your original config file to get MSX back.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Myself on October 24, 2017, 12:55:55 am
And a special feature from Bud, not being present in Ex series cameras: graphics overlay toggle using the Back button. Toggle the button to enable/disable the overlay. Very useful if only want to see the scene with no temperature scale and stuff. Provides 100% use of the screen real estate.

And one sorely needed in all such cameras! That was always the most annoying part of UVC streaming on my old E4, the inability to turn off the overlay.

"Not present in Ex series cameras", does that mean it's present in some other Flir models and you brought it over somehow? Or did you implement that from scratch?

(Don't suppose any of 'em have the ability to stream both the IR and Visible images simultaneously, say like a side-by-side image?)

... not as simple as patching a couple bytes...
... implanting code from other device models...

 ???

At risk of derailing what's already probably one of the most breathlessly-anticipated developments on the forum (at least to me!), I feel like your methodology here might also be worth its own thread or something. I'm more of a hardware guy so maybe I'm the only one absolutely mystified by what you're doing, but.. mixing and matching snippets of compiled code, it sounds like? 'Ow the 'eck do you do that?

I guess all the cameras in the series are based on the same processor, and even other series are probably on the same general architecture, but still, I can't just slice up part of Word.exe and paste it into Excel.exe and change the way it works. Can I? Aren't there a gazillion things done by the compiler and linker, which you'd have to manually adjust every time you move parts around?

Welp, I just ordered a new E4 Wifi to replace the old (stolen) one. Can't wait to see how this turns out. Bud, if you're ever in Detroit, hit me up for a beer or something!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 24, 2017, 02:54:54 am
"Not present in Ex series cameras", does that mean it's present in some other Flir models and you brought it over somehow? Or did you implement that from scratch?

Programmable button is present in higher end cameras, they have a dedicated "P" button, e.g. T640 and E75 shown in the attached picture. Ex cameras do not have that physical button, so I found a way  to map one of the buttons (I used the Back button) to the programmable button function. And unlocked the code that controls that function.
I agree that hiding the overlay is a very useful feature, but the P-button can do more and is configurable in the Settings screen. I found Hide Graphics and Switch between two last palettes  the most useful options to me, something that I use really often.

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(Don't suppose any of 'em have the ability to stream both the IR and Visible images simultaneously, say like a side-by-side image?)

Not sure but I think any of the camera can only stream one type of video at a time.

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.. mixing and matching snippets of compiled code, it sounds like?

Not exactly, it is a mix of compiled code and scripts, and there is not much you can do to compiled code, but scripts are editable. This approach is not new, user janekivi used it extensively in his update packages for the previous generation (2.3.0)  E4.

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I guess all the cameras in the series are based on the same processor

May not be the same processor but many of them seem to be ARM Thumb, up to very expensive models. Not sure what the highest ones run.

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Bud, if you're ever in Detroit, hit me up for a beer or something!

You said it!  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 26, 2017, 04:53:40 am
EEPROM unlock code found !   8)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BOGET on October 26, 2017, 09:25:00 am
EEPROM unlock code found !   8)
Well done, Bud! That's impressive, do you know what the new pw is?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 26, 2017, 02:18:36 pm
Hard to guess if you are not a Swede:

ArneAnka

Google who Arne Anka is   :D

Edit: The code was provided for learning/exploratory purpose. Be smart and do not change anything in the EEPROM, it may be devastating to the device.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eeviking on October 26, 2017, 03:16:16 pm
 :-DD
If you want to hack scandinavian gear try some combinations of: KalleAnka, AndersAnd etc.
Funny enough some of our Swedish gear have AkuAnkka as default password.  ;D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 26, 2017, 03:37:06 pm
 :-DD   :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on October 26, 2017, 04:11:44 pm
Just wondering, if I was to have a recent E4 (without WiFi), could a 'hack' as this enable WiFi?
Or would this method even only work on a E4 WiFi version?

@ Bud, I don't know how you do your magic, but it's impressive!

B.t.w. I can't find the firmware version 3.9 (which I thought was posted somewhere).
Does anybody know if it has been removed or am I loosing my eye sight?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on October 26, 2017, 04:33:07 pm
Just wondering, if I was to have a recent E4 (without WiFi), could a 'hack' as this enable WiFi?
Or would this method even only work on a E4 WiFi version?

@ Bud, I don't know how you do your magic, but it's impressive!

B.t.w. I can't find the firmware version 3.9 (which I thought was posted somewhere).
Does anybody know if it has been removed or am I loosing my eye sight?
3.9 can be found here:
http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.9.0__update_pack.zip (http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.9.0__update_pack.zip)
Hard to guess if you are not a Swede:

ArneAnka

Google who Arne Anka is   :D

Edit: The code was provided for learning/exploratory purpose. Be smart and do not change anything in the EEPROM, it may be devastating to the device.
Does this mean that the camera could be set as an E8 and be seen as an E8 in flir tools?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 26, 2017, 04:53:24 pm
The camera ID can be changed in the EEPROM, but this in no way changes the cameras operating configuration. Yes it will be identified as an E(whatever number) but this was normally only done by people who wanted their camera to be as close to looking like an E8 as possible. Personally, I am proud of my upgraded E4 and it is now so much more than an E8 anyway :)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 26, 2017, 05:08:24 pm
It is two separate things i think. Camera resolution/ menu enhansement and ID-ing in Flir Tools. The former does not have to do with the ID in EEPROM, the latter may - need to be tested, i have not tried.
I can't recall if stock E4 WiFi has EEPROM web page, i uploaded and am using a web pack from one of earlier camera models which had it. But most of other functions in Service menu are not working i.e. Bad pixel replacement map.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 26, 2017, 05:20:36 pm
@ Bud, I don't know how you do your magic, but it's impressive!

Findig a way to beat the 2-layer hash validation in applauncher was the most challenging and took a few sleepless nights. The rest is easier but takes a LOT of editing, trying and rebooting. I am on my 300-ish restart counter as reported in Camera Information screen.

I recall i glanced over E75 file system and it seemed to have using the same 2-layer-ed hash , so my educated guess is E75 can be liberated to E95 configuration using the same procedure.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eg14 on October 26, 2017, 05:39:04 pm
@ Bud, I don't know how you do your magic, but it's impressive!

Findig a way to beat the 2-layer hash validation in applauncher was the most challenging and took a few sleepless nights. The rest is easier but takes a LOT of editing, trying and rebooting. I am on my 300-ish restart counter as reported in Camera Information screen.

I recall i glanced over E75 file system and it seemed to have using the same 2-layer-ed hash , so my educated guess is E75 can be liberated to E95 configuration using the same procedure.

If I was rich I'd buy you an E75 so we could find out.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Chanc3 on October 26, 2017, 07:49:40 pm
@ Bud, I don't know how you do your magic, but it's impressive!

Findig a way to beat the 2-layer hash validation in applauncher was the most challenging and took a few sleepless nights. The rest is easier but takes a LOT of editing, trying and rebooting. I am on my 300-ish restart counter as reported in Camera Information screen.

I recall i glanced over E75 file system and it seemed to have using the same 2-layer-ed hash , so my educated guess is E75 can be liberated to E95 configuration using the same procedure.

The newer Exx series use Linux, but I assume that it won't make any difference? Would be good to unlock it to the full 640x480!



Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on October 26, 2017, 09:40:20 pm
Tried to download 3.9.0 but there was no file. On Flir's site there is 3.12.0 now http://flir.custhelp.com/app/account/fl_download_software (http://flir.custhelp.com/app/account/fl_download_software)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on October 27, 2017, 12:04:16 am
Tried to download 3.9.0 but there was no file. On Flir's site there is 3.12.0 now http://flir.custhelp.com/app/account/fl_download_software (http://flir.custhelp.com/app/account/fl_download_software)
Wow, just worked for me a few hours ago.
New 3.12.0 direct download: http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.12.0_update_pack.zip (http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.12.0_update_pack.zip)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 27, 2017, 01:08:36 am
@peppy88
Download the 3.12.0 and hold on to it for now, we will see what we can do.

@Chanc3
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The newer Exx series use Linux, but I assume that it won't make any difference? Would be good to unlock it to the full 640x480!

I checked again and E75...E95 are Part # 785 and look totally different animal, perhaps as you saying it is Linux. So I was incorrect. I guess I was reviewing files for E40...E60 series which is Part # 645, and that one still seems to be EEV Blog friendly.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 27, 2017, 01:11:55 am
Just wondering, if I was to have a recent E4 (without WiFi), could a 'hack' as this enable WiFi?
Or would this method even only work on a E4 WiFi version?

I'd think it would not have the WiFi hardware. So WiFi may not work but the rest should work.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 27, 2017, 03:09:37 am
OK lets see what else we've liberated...

- Data overlay. Provides a selection of parameters that can be displayed in addition to usual measurements and controls information.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=364343;image)

- External Window Compensation. Provides compensation of temperature readings when there is an external IR window is in front of the camera. Not sure what use cases for it may exist, do not ask me how you can use it, I am just making it available.  Perhaps @Fraser could provide an advice.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=364345;image)

- Time Lapse. Takes the configured number of shots separated by a specified time interval. Minimum interval  is 15 sec for now, will see if can be shortened. Shots are saved as separate files with the usual naming convention.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=364347;image)

- Screening mode. Sets an alarm when measured temperature exceeds a specific threshold. Documentation specifically mentions use case for screening sick people at airports. You set temperature  threshold and hysteresis and the alarm icon will turn Red when measured temperature goes above the threshold. My recollection is it also writes events in a log file on the flash drive, so it can either be examined later, or remotely monitored in real time via Telnet or ftp. Only the high end cameras ($20,000-$40,000) have this feature. Now available in E4 for only a kilobuck  8)

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=364349;image)

Seems it is going to be the most massive liberation of E4 since sliced bread  >:D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on October 27, 2017, 03:34:48 am
!!!!

Where do we buy the Bud update pack? Hahaha
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 27, 2017, 10:14:05 am
Bud,

External IR windows are used on the casings of hazardous euipment such as high energy utility supplies. They enable inspection of the equipments interior without breaching the safety containment. Such windows are made from various thermal wavelength transmissive materials but the transmission % varies. The FLIR External IR window menu enables the user to select the correct transmission figure for the IR window that is in use. The camera then compensated for the transmission loss when taking measurements through the window.

https://www.tester.co.uk/downloads/dl/file/id/2610/product/11398/flir_irw_infrared_window_datasheet.pdf (https://www.tester.co.uk/downloads/dl/file/id/2610/product/11398/flir_irw_infrared_window_datasheet.pdf)

https://www.tester.co.uk/flir-irw-infrared-window-choice-of-size?fee=3&fep=11398&gclid=CjwKCAjwssvPBRBBEiwASFoVdwl_YDY_2QjMiyKD5P9ZrwkrngjNog92AmScuNWrWXcWvNpnSmMsZBoC7SEQAvD_BwE (https://www.tester.co.uk/flir-irw-infrared-window-choice-of-size?fee=3&fep=11398&gclid=CjwKCAjwssvPBRBBEiwASFoVdwl_YDY_2QjMiyKD5P9ZrwkrngjNog92AmScuNWrWXcWvNpnSmMsZBoC7SEQAvD_BwE)

An external IR window compensation feature that permits manual entry of the transmission figure can be very useful when experimenting with auxiliary lenses. Such permits the transmission losses of the additional lens block to be compensated out of measurements in order to provide more accuracy. The FLIR 'T' series provides external window and lens compensation in its measurement correction options.

There should be two data entry fields or menu's, temperature and transmission %. In your picture I suspect the 20 is the temperature in Degrees C, and the 100 is the default transmission set to 100%. I would expect there to be a way to change these two entries, such as the 'rotating' tumbler wheels used elsewhere. Some functions require the touch screen to use them.

FLIR's ITC have produced a guide for establishing the transmission losses of an IR window so that measurements may be corrected.

http://flir.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/9908/0/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMzY5NjUyNTI2L3NpZC9nKkNjLWRybA==/filename/Tech+Pub+-+Easy+Window+Transmission+Measurement.pdf (http://flir.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/9908/0/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMzY5NjUyNTI2L3NpZC9nKkNjLWRybA==/filename/Tech+Pub+-+Easy+Window+Transmission+Measurement.pdf)

External window transmittance by FLIR's ITC

http://support.flir.com/Answers/A817T/A817-T560472_A-en-US%20Technical%20publication%2060%20Window%20or%20External%20Optics%20Transmittance.pdf (http://support.flir.com/Answers/A817T/A817-T560472_A-en-US%20Technical%20publication%2060%20Window%20or%20External%20Optics%20Transmittance.pdf)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 27, 2017, 01:42:23 pm
That is great Fraser, thank you. Sounds a useful feature for experimenters.
Yes turning ext window compensation on enables value selection scroll lists for temperature and transmission coefficient. This information is also then added to the Exif header in the images taken with it enabled.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 27, 2017, 05:40:15 pm
Just got my E4 2.0L with stock 3.5 FW.

Reading all the threads I just can't find 3.9 FW update ( the file is lost... ) and on Flir site there is only latest 3.12.

Can someone upload a 3.9 update, or 3.12 is also ok ? Anyone @Bud ?


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on October 27, 2017, 08:11:04 pm
Thanks for the previous answers and clarifications guys..
I'm wondering the same thing..
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 27, 2017, 10:19:01 pm
Thanks to my brother fellow Hungarian I managed to update my camera to FW 3.9  8)

Now comes the tricky part :)  Anyone willing to help ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on October 28, 2017, 11:53:35 am
@Markofq Where did u get the 3.9.0 firmware?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 28, 2017, 01:42:48 pm
Here it is
https://www.mediafire.com/file/z2e44uvzm99u9a7/v3.9.0__update_pack.zip (https://www.mediafire.com/file/z2e44uvzm99u9a7/v3.9.0__update_pack.zip)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on October 28, 2017, 03:43:01 pm
Hi All!  I have two E4's, one with 2.11.0 that I successfully applied the res and menu hack to, and the other one is a 2017 3.9.0 FW and 2.0L HW which I successfully retrieved the SUID and decrypted the CFC.  I now have the CFG file and not sure where to go from here to do the res hack plus the menu hack and all the extras Bud is adding.  Do I just edit the cfg file and change everything to "True" and enter the 320x240 resolution and re-encrypt the file or do I need to generate a new DLL as well? 
Please help.  ;D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 28, 2017, 07:19:51 pm
It is in development and has not been published yet, you have to wait.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on October 28, 2017, 07:44:30 pm
Thank you Bud!

Great work btw!   :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on October 29, 2017, 11:39:02 am
Thanks for the v 3.9 file Markofq!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 29, 2017, 05:15:21 pm
Some nasty  surprizes coming with 3.1.20 3.12.0

Code: [Select]
qml_context_property type="string" name="registrationNag" value="N/A"
...
 ui_model type="RegistrationWizardModel" name="registrationWizardModel" ... title="CAMERA_REGISTRATION_TITLE"
...
some other related crap such as screen to enter some verification  code

 :--

The new update has no anything new beside the forementioned registration screen for you to register the device and , guess, a nag screen if you don't.

Unclear if they introduce it in 3.12.0 or prepairing to be introduced in one of the next releases. Because of this and because 3.12.0 has no any technical feature updates, I do not recommend updating  to 3.12.0. Stick to 3.9.0 for as long as you can.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 08:08:21 am
Basic update package for E4 2.0L WiFi fw v3.9.0

DISCLAIMER: YOU PERFORM UPDATE AT YOUR OWN RISK

It is an endless endeavor to dig into and navigate the E4 gold mine of undocumented features , so I split the update to parts. If all you need is enhanced resolution , new palettes and measurement presets, this Basic package is for you. You can always upgrade later to the next level. It may even be possible that the Advanced package will have too much for you and you will want to roll back to this Basic package. There is so much stuff in Advanced one that not many people will be able to use it and it will only complicate the menu and settings. By starting with Basic one you also learn the procedure and navigating the user interface, so stepping the level up will be easier to digest the overwhelming amount of liberated stuff that comes in Advanced bucket.

Always make a backup copy of your stock camera before applying the mods. You will need it to roll the change back in case of problems or if you decide to sell the camera.

With the mods in place you should NOT apply firmware updates published by the camera manufacturer. Such updates may overwrite critical files and the camera may stop working. If you want to apply such update you first have to remove the mod and return to stock configuration. However you cannot re-apply the mod that was made for the earlier firmware versions. There is high risk of bricking the camera in such scenario.

The mods are provided for your personal use. In case you need to sell the camera, please roll the change back to stock firmware. There will be a quick splash screen at startup reminding you of that. If someone, who is not aware of the said condition in the previous paragraph, buys a mod-ed camera from you and applies a manufacturer firmware update, the person will end up with a bricked camera. Please be considerate and do not do that.

This update was made for and using E4 2.0L 3.9.0 WiFi version device. It has not been tested on a non-WiFi device, though my thoughts are it should work there too. You will have  to use USB and RNDIS mode though to apply the update.

PS: the archive has two files because of limitation on attachment file size.

Edit: please take note of errata/typos Markofq posted 3 post below

'********************************************************

Recovery procedure

Use the following procedure to revert the change if update was not successful and your camera stuck in boot logo screen or blank screen.


user: anonymous
pass: NcFTP@


'********************************************************

Update Dec 23, 2017:
 
Advanced update package:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1382599/#msg1382599 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1382599/#msg1382599)

'==========

Update: Additional enhancement for the GUI here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1401621/#msg1401621 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1401621/#msg1401621)

'********************************************************

Update Dec 25, 2019:
 
2019 Christmas Pack:

The 2019 Christmas Pack adds another powerful feature - custom User Presets. For details follow the link:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2844298/#msg2844298 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2844298/#msg2844298)

'********************************************************
'=====================
Update March 7, 2019: So far the following FW versions confirmed working: 3.9.0, 3.11.0, 3.12.0, 3.13.0, 3.16.0. They may use different packages, you need to scan this thread for information and attachments for a particular fw version.
'=====================
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 30, 2017, 11:22:30 am
Bud,

Excellent work.

I am pleased and impressed that you have considered the issue of upgraded cameras being vulnerable to bricking if newer firmware is loaded, and your consideration for potential buyers of an upgraded camera :)

Excellent :)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 30, 2017, 11:31:23 am
Thanks Bud ! :-+

I have a non WIFI model, I will try it and let you  know.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gregor11 on October 30, 2017, 01:27:45 pm
Thank you bud for your work.

On Flir E4 without Wifi 3.5.0 2.0.L does not work.
Replacing common_dll.dll causes a crash on the flir logo.
Does common_dll.dll 3.9.0 differ from common_dll.dll 3.5.0?
Later, I will update the camera to 3.9.0 and see if I am happy.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 30, 2017, 01:36:26 pm
@Bud
The update went fine  8)

There were some typos in readme:
 3.1 FlashIFS\version.rsc should be FLIRVers.rsc
 7 when typing python cfccfg.py file ( the downloaded file has a _V2 on it so people should rename it or just point to right file  )
 9 (b) FlashFS\system\common_dll.dll the correct path is FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll

And for the record this works with NON wifi model also!

Thanks !
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 01:40:25 pm
@gregor11
Did not i make it clear enough in the instructions what fw version it is for?

Edit: this exactly illustrate my point on danger of mixing fw versions.

You should roll back, update to 3.9.0 and go from there.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on October 30, 2017, 01:42:12 pm
@bud

do you think a 3.12.0 to 3.9.0 downgrade is possible? Want to know in case I get one that already comes with 3.12.0
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 01:43:30 pm
@Bud
The update went fine  8)

There were some typos in readme:
 3.1 FlashIFS\version.rsc should be FLIRVers.rsc
 7 when typing python cfccfg.py file ( the downloaded file has a _V2 on it so people should rename it or just point to right file  )
 9 (b) FlashFS\system\common_dll.dll the correct path is FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll

And for the record this works with NON wifi model also!

Thanks !

Thanks!
 that is embarrasing typos. This is what happens when posting at 4am after working all day.

All - please take a note before i fix the typos in the package and download the archive again, the instructions file has been updated.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: wvdv2002 on October 30, 2017, 02:32:23 pm
Thanks Bud for the description.

For me the updated failed. For other users it would be nice if you could add the description of how to setup the camera in RNDIS mode. I found a description for older firmware using FlirInstallNet.exe and some fif files, but using that description it seems it changes some wrong things in the new firmware version, as in device information nothing is shown about the resolution of the camera anymore and the build in normal camera does not work anymore.

FYI, the right way to set the camera in RNDIS mode is by going into the camera information menu and holding the right menu key for more than 10 seconds. Then you get a diagnostics menu where you can sat USB mode etcetera.

If anybody has a tip on how to get back normal camera functionality let me know.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 30, 2017, 02:42:25 pm
@Bud
The update went fine  8)

There were some typos in readme:
 3.1 FlashIFS\version.rsc should be FLIRVers.rsc
 7 when typing python cfccfg.py file ( the downloaded file has a _V2 on it so people should rename it or just point to right file  )
 9 (b) FlashFS\system\common_dll.dll the correct path is FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll

And for the record this works with NON wifi model also!

Thanks !

Thanks!
 that is embarrasing typos. This is what happens when posting at 4am after working all day.

All - please take a note before i fix the typos in the package and download the archive again, the instructions file has been updated.

No problem m8,

About menu, if I edit toolbar-config.xml and remove this

 <ToolBar name="new_settings"/>
   <ToolBar name="recordingModeMenu">
        <ToolBar name="recordingMode_still"/>
    </ToolBar>

Is it all that is needed to be done to get rid of that toolbar "recording mode" ? ( since I don't see a reason beeing there it does nothing for me )
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 03:07:46 pm
About menu, if I edit toolbar-config.xml and remove this

 <ToolBar name="new_settings"/>
   <ToolBar name="recordingModeMenu">
        <ToolBar name="recordingMode_still"/>
    </ToolBar>

Is it all that is needed to be done to get rid of that toolbar "recording mode" ? ( since I don't see a reason beeing there it does nothing for me )

There will be more recording modes in Advanced pack, but you can leave it that way, a new toolbar-config.xml will be supplied with it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 03:28:44 pm
For me the updated failed.

You did not say what hardware and original fw version you camera is.

Quote
For other users it would be nice if you could add the description of how to setup the camera in RNDIS mode.

I cant spoonfeed everyone. Do I also need to teach people how to use FTP? Telnet? How copy files? Rename files? People are expected to do their homework.

Quote
I found a description for older firmware using FlirInstallNet.exe and some fif files, but using that description it seems it changes some wrong things in the new firmware version

I still use FlirInstallNet and fif filesfor RNDIS  back from 2014. I do not know why yours did not work.

Quote
FYI, the right way to set the camera in RNDIS mode is by going into the camera information menu and holding the right menu key for more than 10 seconds. Then you get a diagnostics menu where you can sat USB mode etcetera.

You certainly have not tried that, otherwise you would know it does not work. That screen was locked long time back by Flir and it is not possible to change USB from that hidden menu.

Quote
If anybody has a tip on how to get back normal camera functionality let me know.

- Power down the camera and disconnect USB if connected
- Reconnect USB. Do NOT power on the camera.
- Run FlirInstallNet and upload the temporary RNDIS fif file
- Wait for the camera to get IP address assigned as usual, ping 192.168.0.2 and make sure the camera responds to ping.
- Run FTP and connect to the camera using the following credentials:

user: anonymous
pass: NcFTP@

-You should now have access to the files and copy back  your original files from a backup. I trust you made a backup before trying the update.


 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gregor11 on October 30, 2017, 04:04:14 pm
Thanks bud.
I read that for 3.9.0.
I just wanted to check if it works with 3.5.0, it just updates to 3.9.0.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 30, 2017, 04:05:46 pm
Thanks Bud for the description.

For me the updated failed. For other users it would be nice if you could add the description of how to setup the camera in RNDIS mode. I found a description for older firmware using FlirInstallNet.exe and some fif files, but using that description it seems it changes some wrong things in the new firmware version, as in device information nothing is shown about the resolution of the camera anymore and the build in normal camera does not work anymore.

FYI, the right way to set the camera in RNDIS mode is by going into the camera information menu and holding the right menu key for more than 10 seconds. Then you get a diagnostics menu where you can sat USB mode etcetera.

If anybody has a tip on how to get back normal camera functionality let me know.

I used fif files from 2.11.0 Hack files and it worked both ways to RNDIS and back to MSD/VDC mode.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 04:09:36 pm
Thanks bud.
I read that for 3.9.0.
I just wanted to check if it works with 3.5.0, it just updates to 3.9.0.

NO, do not attempt doing it on 3.5.0   , it will not work.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on October 30, 2017, 04:22:43 pm
Bud,
First of all, great job and thanks for all the hard work!  I tested with my 2017 WiFi 2.0L/3.9.0 and everything went well.

There's one typo:
10. Transfer the new common_dll.dll from the working folder to the camera -> FlashFS\system\ Should be changed to FlashBFS\system\


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 04:46:20 pm
Thanks CABNY, that was already reported and has now been fixed and an updated archive uploaded.

Enjoy your camera !
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 04:49:08 pm
@bud

do you think a 3.12.0 to 3.9.0 downgrade is possible? Want to know in case I get one that already comes with 3.12.0

I do not know, sorry...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on October 30, 2017, 04:54:57 pm
When switching to 3-spot measurement, on my non-wifi camera I get a box with center spot and one cold and one hot spot.  On the wifi model I get no box with three spots side by side.  Is there a setting that I'm missing?
Also, is the box size changeable? 

Can't wait to see what comes out with the Advanced pack!  Thanks again Bud!   :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 05:14:46 pm
Copy the 3-spot preset .rsc file from the first camera to the second one, that should do it. But you can have only one of them, unless you sacrifice one of other presets and use its filename for your second 3-spot tool.

Box size may be changeable in the preset file, check there if it has box dimensions specified.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 30, 2017, 05:22:24 pm
BTW check out the programmable button, there is a setting for it in the Settings screen. Again, on the liberated E4 it is the Back button.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on October 30, 2017, 05:44:10 pm
Copied preset_threeSpots.rsc  to /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/  and it's working great!

Thanks again!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on October 30, 2017, 10:06:48 pm
Thanks Bud for the description.

For me the updated failed. For other users it would be nice if you could add the description of how to setup the camera in RNDIS mode. I found a description for older firmware using FlirInstallNet.exe and some fif files, but using that description it seems it changes some wrong things in the new firmware version, as in device information nothing is shown about the resolution of the camera anymore and the build in normal camera does not work anymore.

FYI, the right way to set the camera in RNDIS mode is by going into the camera information menu and holding the right menu key for more than 10 seconds. Then you get a diagnostics menu where you can sat USB mode etcetera.

If anybody has a tip on how to get back normal camera functionality let me know.

I used fif files from 2.11.0 Hack files and it worked both ways to RNDIS and back to MSD/VDC mode.

Would I be rude to ask if you could post these files?

I'm a newby at this and can find files about hack 2.3.0 (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)) but not the 2.11.0 and I'm not sure they're the same..  :-[
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 30, 2017, 11:39:04 pm
Thank you very much for the E4 hack!
I am stuck on step 7 when I type python cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [which I have replaced with my SUID] conf.cfg conf.cfc .
The Python command line says syntax error about the file in line 1, but I think that I downloaded the v2 file ok. I know you don't like to spoonfeed people, Bud, but help would be appreciated! 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 31, 2017, 12:10:06 am
I tried restarting my computer so that Python was installed correctly, and I remembered to extract the V2 file. I installed the 2.7 version of Python, but I will look for another version to see if that fixes it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 31, 2017, 12:16:47 am
I am sorry if there are the two things in life that  i am clueless about , they are python and linux. If you can post a screensot of the error someone may be able to recognize it and help.
Also make sure you are using python v2.7. I tried several versions from 3.0 i believe and higher and none worked. I had to uninstall them and use v2.7.

In fact, i was going to ask people who knows python to help rewrite the script to work inder newer python versions. If someone can do that it would be a good refresh for the tool.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 31, 2017, 12:32:23 am
Thanks for trying, Bud!
This is the first time I am even using a command line, so I can only guess.
Judging by the syntax error, here are some possibilities:
I am typing it in a way that Python does not understand;
Python cannot find the file because I've put it in the wrong place;
Something went wrong with my installation of Python.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 31, 2017, 12:50:03 am
I was being dumb, but at least I've learnt about the command line now.
The CFC has been created, now that I put C:\ and all that jazz before the file name. Of course the computer didn't know where to find the file because I didn't put its location. That is programming 101, I know, but I haven't taken that class!
I bet you PC-Einsteins are laughing at the screenshot I posted!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on October 31, 2017, 01:26:20 am
Thanks again, Bud; your instructions were so clear that even a noob like me hacked it!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 31, 2017, 01:35:12 am
Thanks and glad it worked for you. Take care of your backup archive.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 31, 2017, 01:48:15 am
Would I be rude to ask if you could post these files?

I'm a newby at this and can find files about hack 2.3.0 (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)) but not the 2.11.0 and I'm not sure they're the same..  :-[

pull the RNDIS fif files from this zip archive

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg531346/#msg531346 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg531346/#msg531346)

I recommend only using the Temporary one. You will be in better control over the camera USB interface. The Temporary fif only enables RNDIS until reboot, after which the camera returns to UVC mode. You will perhaps need to run it 2-3 times during the procedure as you reboot but it makes sure the camera will not get stuck in RNDIS using some weirdo IP settings which may give you headache and inability to connect to it. Ask me how I know this.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 31, 2017, 01:59:55 am
I added recovery procedure to my original post on Page 8. I use it countless times and it worked well for me every single time. In fact, I found it is very difficult to brick the camera, Flir did a good job on putting this "side door" in place that gives access to the filesystem without booting the device. The real danger is when you begin mixing firmware and hardware versions, this may cause unpredictable results and kill all entry points. So do not do that.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on October 31, 2017, 09:10:26 am
Thanks Bud!
As wel as for the RNDIS mode advice!.. I don't think I dare to ask you why u know..  ;)

I'm getting the E4 (no wifi, could not buy that in my region) tomorrow.

Also, thank you for sharing your magic!!!  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Markofq on October 31, 2017, 09:43:43 am
Copied preset_threeSpots.rsc  to /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/  and it's working great!

Thanks again!

Can u upload that preset ?
Tnx
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on October 31, 2017, 10:14:51 am
Bud, that's a great job. Works on my E4, 2.0L model that arrived for some reason with FW 2.3.0 here, but the hack didn't work. Resolution did enhance, but menus not and crosshair was gone. Didn't work with 2.11.0 either. So I'm lucky you made this one. Reverted the hacks and updated the camera to 3.9.0, applied the modifications according to your readme file, and tadaa - it works.

There's one thing I'd like to ask (just for clarity): does your basic packacke include some changes or additions to the palettes or menus? Apparently nothing changed here for my camera, so if there should be more, I'd have to investigate again, otherwise I'm just fine for now.

BTW the hidden menu is still there (10 sec keypress ...), but doesn't change the USB mode. I've set mine to RNDIS using this menu while the older firmware was running, and don't bother reverting it until all patches are done. I also had various problems, most of the time just not working, using the .fif to change the mode. Not yet tried with the 3.9.0 FW.


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on October 31, 2017, 11:39:03 am
try this.  unzip it first.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 31, 2017, 01:28:51 pm
There's one thing I'd like to ask (just for clarity): does your basic packacke include some changes or additions to the palettes or menus? Apparently nothing changed here for my camera, so if there should be more, I'd have to investigate again, otherwise I'm just fine for now.

It has more palettes and measurement tools, but you appeared to have them enabled by the previous hacks. I did not maintain a list of what i enabled, if i saw something i just enabled it. Check if you got the programmable button in the settings menu, and use the Back button after you assign a function to it.

Quote
BTW the hidden menu is still there (10 sec keypress)

Should not be 10 in my package, i changed it to 3 or 4 sec.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: MicroBliss on October 31, 2017, 06:28:45 pm
Hi everybody.

Is there any difference in haking Flir e4 fw 3.9.0 with Wi-Fi and Flir e5 fw 3.9.0 without Wi-Fi? Besides "You will have  to use USB and RNDIS mode though to apply the update."
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 31, 2017, 06:48:29 pm
This package is for E4.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 01, 2017, 03:33:18 am
This is side by side screenshots of menu and settings screens before and after.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: MicroBliss on November 01, 2017, 06:07:51 am
This package is for E4.
thx, cap
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on November 01, 2017, 06:23:32 am
This is side by side screenshots of menu and settings screens before and after.
Thanks, that makes things clear for me: The menus didn't work, resolution does. I've got the "before" menus on my E4. So I'll go back and try to find the reason, maybe I've put a file in the wrong place - would be the first thing to check.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 01, 2017, 07:29:29 am
Make sure to copy/replace ui_control.rsc
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on November 01, 2017, 12:52:24 pm
Quote
Make sure to copy/replace ui_control.rsc

ui_control.rsc was in its place at "FlashBFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d/", but there was another ui_control.rst at  "FlashFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d/".
Apparently a leftover from a previous hacking attempt, after deleting the latter one, everything is fine. I've received the camera with FW 2.3.0 installed on HW 2.0L, as far as I read all the posts here, this can't be the state this camera left the factory, it's also quite new (last calibrated in March 2017). So I guess there's been a non successful attempt to hack it, don't know if the file was transferred by me to the wrong place or has been there before. Anyway, it's working now, I'm waiting for your extended package.
Thanks again, Bud!

Edit: I've reset USB to default and RNDIS access works now best in the way you describe as "Recovery procedure". No password required / any password works. Way more files are accessible through FTP now, no need to stop the app. My Win7 laptop appears to lesser fool me with IP addresses in this mode, the camera comes up more reliably with 192.168.0.2

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 01, 2017, 01:42:22 pm
That is great. Did not know they dropped password. I think you were lucky the downgrade the previous owner performed did not cause (apparent) problems.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on November 01, 2017, 01:50:42 pm
Found a bug with WiFi on liberated 2.0L 3.9.0 (may be the case with stock device as well)

When you connect the device to wifi, they take it to another location and try to connect it to another SSID, the interface will flash a message that it could not connect to the previous SSID and it will freeze before being able to enter your wifi password and only way to continue is remove battery or hold power button for 5 seconds.
Only way I found to get around it is turn wifi off, then back on and select the new SSID.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 01, 2017, 02:41:37 pm
Not sure i understand the "..they take it to another location" part but do not see how it may have anything to do with the change. What would be steps way to reproduce the issue?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on November 01, 2017, 04:29:19 pm
What I did was join wifi at my office, then went home, tried to join wifi there and before I was able to enter the password after selecting the SSID, a pop-up that it couldn't connect to my office wifi and screen froze up.  This happened again even after removing and re-inserting the battery.

I'm going to try joining my office wifi again tonight and see if it happens again the other way around.


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 01, 2017, 06:23:43 pm
Sounds like a bug in wifi implementation. Turning wifi off before joining a different network makes sense.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 07:29:02 pm
For any other noobs like me, I offer this useful article:
http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)
So far it has helped me to switch to RNDIS mode, use Filezilla with the username Flir and password 3vlig, and backup the Flir E4 files. Obviously those simple steps apply to all firmwares, so at what step does the process become different for 3.9.0? I am hesitant to proceed lest this article be outdated.

Sam, did you follow the procedure from this link up to (and not including) the part "6. Script pack"?
(Including using the device drivers in their link, FlirTools v. 4.1 and Pyton 2.7.9?) (As recommended by Bud, we should use the FLIRfif from another package..)

And then continuing with "Switching camera to RNDIS mode"?

I'm new to this stuff and stuggling a bit..
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 08:48:18 pm
I was being dumb, but at least I've learnt about the command line now.
The CFC has been created, now that I put C:\ and all that jazz before the file name. Of course the computer didn't know where to find the file because I didn't put its location. That is programming 101, I know, but I haven't taken that class!
I bet you PC-Einsteins are laughing at the screenshot I posted!

Oke, at least you're not the dumbest..  :-[
I'm stuck at the same phase, but unlike you have not figured out where to put the path..

What did you do to fix it?


Also, before I overwrite files on the camera, I want to make sure I got the backup right..
It seems like a standard windows C:\ drive folder structure (right side).

Is this correct?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on November 01, 2017, 09:48:14 pm
Yes, Squawk, I followed steps 1-6 of http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/. (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/.) Step 6 tells you to down the FLIRfif folder, which includes the Set_RNDIS_permament.fif file needed to switch to RNDIS mode. Then I waited for Bud's package, which continues where step 6 should stop (because our Flir e4 is the newer 3.9.0).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on November 01, 2017, 09:52:31 pm
Regarding the back-up, that should be the easy part! I don't recognise the program WinSCP that you used (I chose Filezilla), but it's just a matter of copying and pasting. Your C: drive is where the back-up belongs, and I made one on several others of my drives just in case.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on November 01, 2017, 09:56:19 pm
To answer your question about the Python step, there is an easy way to tell the command prompt (which you open by typing cmd into the Windows search bar) a file's location. Instead of typing out where your file is (C:\ etc), just drag the file on to the command prompt.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 10:03:59 pm
Regarding the back-up, that should be the easy part! I don't recognise the program WinSCP that you used (I chose Filezilla), but it's just a matter of copying and pasting. Your C: drive is where the back-up belongs, and I made one on several others of my drives just in case.

Hey Sam, thanks for coming to the resque! :)

But do you recognize the folders on the right?
Are those the ones to backup?

Cause I'm a bit surprised to see folders like "Program Files", "Windows" and "Temp".. which seem a lot like the C:\ folder structure..


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 10:06:38 pm
To answer your question about the Python step, there is an easy way to tell the command prompt (which you open by typing cmd into the Windows search bar) a file's location. Instead of typing out where your file is (C:\ etc), just drag the file on to the command prompt.

But which file you mean? The conf.cfg file?
I've tried to put C:\ and C:\Python27\ in front of several places, but nothing worked.. got the same syntax error you got..
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on November 01, 2017, 10:20:36 pm
Hey Sam, thanks for coming to the resque! :)

But do you recognize the folders on the right?
Are those the ones to backup?

Cause I'm a bit surprised to see folders like "Program Files", "Windows" and "Temp".. which seem a lot like the C:\ folder structure..

Your picture shows that you have backed them up correctly. Just like a computer, the camera needs its own operating system, so it is normal.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on November 01, 2017, 10:28:27 pm
But which file you mean? The conf.cfg file?
I've tried to put C:\ and C:\Python27\ in front of several places, but nothing worked.. got the same syntax error you got..

To make it easier to type the locations, move the V2 file and conf.cfg files to your C: folder (and in no subfolders of that). Then you would type the following (no more, no less) where xxx etc. is your SUID:
python C:\cfccfg_v2.py xxx C:\conf.cfg C:\conf.cfc

Note that it worked for me only when I told the command prompt to create the new cfc file in a location (let's make it the C:\ drive for simplicity's sake and then move it later).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 10:37:31 pm
But which file you mean? The conf.cfg file?
I've tried to put C:\ and C:\Python27\ in front of several places, but nothing worked.. got the same syntax error you got..

To make it easier to type the locations, move the V2 file and conf.cfg files to your C: folder (and in no subfolders of that). Then you would type the following (no more, no less) where xxx etc. is your SUID:
python C:\cfccfg_v2.py xxx C:\conf.cfg C:\conf.cfc

Note that it worked for me only when I told the command prompt to create the new cfc file in a location (let's make it the C:\ drive for simplicity's sake and then move it later).

Then something else is wrong.. because that combination also doesn't work..  :-//
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on November 01, 2017, 10:47:50 pm
Then something else is wrong.. because that combination also doesn't work..  :-//

That is exactly what I typed for myself (obviously with my own SUID), so that leaves the following possibilities:
The files still aren't where you told the command prompt they are (C: drive);
You forgot to extract the .py file (which is in a zip file when you download it);
Or I'm missing something because I am also a noob!
One other thing came to mind: try it again in Windows command prompt instead (by typing cmd into the start menu).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 10:52:23 pm
U da man!  8)

U officially r not allowed to call yourself noob again..  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SamLowryBrazil on November 01, 2017, 10:59:54 pm
U da man!  8)

U officially r not allowed to call yourself noob again..  ;)

Aww thanks, I'll pin that quotation to my wall! haha
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 11:38:05 pm
Bud, I got the hack working, but there are some issues.
(I have a non-WiFi version, E4, 2.0L firmware version 3.9.0.)

1. The spot temp doesn't show (and there are only 2 options: "No Measurements" and "Centre Spot", but both are not showing)
2. I can't select camera mode anymore (msx, pic in pic, etc.), the icon is greyed-out
3. Temp. Scale only has "auto"
4. I only have 1 row of (7) different color pallettes (not 2 rows with more options, like max, min, alarm temp, etc. as in your screenshot)
5. Recording mode only shows "Single Shot"
6. The visual camera does not record anymore (only IR)
7. I don't have the magnifying glass
8. I can't select "Add Table" in the playback mode (greyed-out)

Any solution I can try to get these things back?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 01, 2017, 11:46:18 pm
Use the recovery procedure on page 8.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 01, 2017, 11:54:14 pm
Use the recovery procedure on page 8.

And then re-do it?
Or will it not (never) work with my device for some reason (region or non-wifi related issues)?

Edit:

I reversed all steps from back to front, except for the restarts. All is back to normal (as when out of the box) standard E4.

There is something I found strange (added screenshot) about files not being overwritten because they're named different (z3 added) but seem to have the same function.
The blue selected files are the ones we're suppose to copy to that folder. Look at their file names in relation to the files already there..
Maybe this can be a clue as to why it didn't work for my E4?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 02, 2017, 01:25:14 am
For convenience, this is a summary of how to get the camera into RNDIS mode:

1. Download and install Python 2.7.9 (later/recent versions of Python don't seem to work): https://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.9/python-2.7.9.msi (https://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.9/python-2.7.9.msi)
   During the installation, click the little box on the left of Python and select “Entire feature will be installed on local drive”.
   Restart PC after installing Python 2.7!

2. Download and install FileZilla: https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=client (https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=client)

3. Download "e4hack3c.zip": https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/?action=dlattach;attach=113430 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/?action=dlattach;attach=113430)
   Unzip/unpack the file "Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif" and copy it to C:\

4. Download and install the FLIR Device Drivers from here: http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/other/flir_device_drivers.exe (http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/other/flir_device_drivers.exe)

5. Download and install FLIR Tools: http://support.flir.com/SwDownload/app/RssSWDownload.aspx?ID=120 (http://support.flir.com/SwDownload/app/RssSWDownload.aspx?ID=120) (I used FLIR Tools+ v 6.3, which worked just fine.)

6. The first step is to connect the camera to the PC using the USB cable provided. Windows will detect the camera and automatically install the drivers.

7. When the installation is complete, navigate to "C:\Program Files\FLIR Systems\FLIR Tools\bin\" and run "FLIRInstallNet.exe".

8. Hit Browse, navigate to the "Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif" file (that you copied to C:\) and hit the Run FIF button.
   When the camera is in RNDIS mode and connected to the computer, it is possible that your Internet connection will go down.
   This is normal and your Internet connection will be automatically restored when the camera is disconnected.

9. On the PC, go to Start, Run, type "cmd" and press enter (you may have to run "Command Prompt" as administrator if you have trouble with the Python script later on).
   This will bring up the command line interface. Type "ipconfig/all" and press enter. This will do an enumeration of all network interfaces currently on the computer.
   Scroll a bit to the top and you should see the word INFRARED, which is IP of the FLIR camera (most likely 192.168.0.2).
   Write down this IP adress.

10. Next, run Fillezilla. On the quick connect boxes enter the host IP (192.168.0.2 in this case), username: flir and password: 3vlig and hit Quickconnect.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: all_repair on November 02, 2017, 01:41:31 am
It is time to get another E4.  A wifi version this round. Any good promotion going on now?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 02, 2017, 02:58:39 am
And then re-do it?
Or will it not (never) work with my device for some reason (region or non-wifi related issues)?

Walk away from it for a day or two, let your mind relax, then do it again starting from downloading the package again. Print out the instructions and put a check mark against each step as you complete it. There is no reason for it not to work on a stock camera.

Quote
Maybe this can be a clue as to why it didn't work for my E4?

No , it is supposed to be that way.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 02, 2017, 03:01:01 am
And then re-do it?
Or will it not (never) work with my device for some reason (region or non-wifi related issues)?

Walk away from it for a day or two, let your mind relax, then do it again starting from downloading the package again. Print out the instructions and put a check mark against each step as you complete it. There is no reason for it not to work on a stock camera.

Quote
Maybe this can be a clue as to why it didn't work for my E4?

No , it is supposed to be that way.

Thanks, I'll try to be that patient..  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 02, 2017, 08:38:23 am
After I transfered the SUID adjusted and re-encrypted conf.cfc file to the camera and rebooted for the first time, I already noticed the "Image mode" was greyed out.
So before copying/overwriting all the files from step 16.

Oh, another thing..
In the "Recovery procedure" you wrote this:
•Reconnect USB. Do NOT power on the camera.
•Run FlirInstallNet and upload the temporary RNDIS fif file

But FlirInstallNet could not find the camera and execute the RNDIS fif file unless I booted it.
I had to reverse the hack procedure to get everything back in original state.
edit: I can now..

Would that give a clue of why it didn't completely work?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Myself on November 02, 2017, 10:30:39 am
It is time to get another E4.  A wifi version this round. Any good promotion going on now?

You can get some free stuff with your order: http://www.flir.com/uploadedFiles/Instruments/Promotions/17-2667-INS-Q4-2017-FLIR-PROMO_BONUS-BUYS.pdf (http://www.flir.com/uploadedFiles/Instruments/Promotions/17-2667-INS-Q4-2017-FLIR-PROMO_BONUS-BUYS.pdf)

But the E4 Wifi is $949 and the rewards have a big bump at $1000. As far as I can tell, it should be possible to add other "test and measurement" items to get over the threshhold, so I got a soft case and a set of FLIR-branded test leads, putting me at $1008 of products. I'll let you know if it works but it might take quite a while before I find out!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Monolith on November 02, 2017, 12:19:42 pm
Yesterday i have successfully "upgraded" my Flir E4 non Wifi model 2.0L. Before that i upgraded the firmware from 3.5.0 to 3.9.0. The new measuring options and enhanced IR resolution transformed the E4 into a total new beast. A big thank you to Bud and all involved for their efforts. I appreciate his time investment in all these trials getting to success. I believe he had to watch hundreds of boot screens... 

regards

M
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Monolith on November 02, 2017, 12:28:36 pm
Addendum: I too struggled getting the E4 into RNDIS mode. The clue was: After injecting the temporary FIF file with Flirinstallnet.exe the Flir Network adapter only appeared briefly in my windows network settings and i never got a permanent connection. After clicking "Run FIF" you have to power up again the E4 and voila the network connection was stable. Took me a while to sort this out. Btw I am using Win10 Pro, i believe there is no need for a Win7 32bit. Pyhton 2.7 and Win10 pro was no problem for me.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 02, 2017, 01:37:39 pm
Oh, another thing..
...
Would that give a clue of why it didn't completely work?

That what? Can you post one thing at a time.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 02, 2017, 01:46:40 pm
Addendum: I too struggled getting the E4 into RNDIS mode.

Flir has been notoriously poor in implementing this piece. In my opinion part of the problem was their choice of the subnet 192.168.0.x which is often already taken by home routers. So with that you get duplicate IPs on the network and not surprizingly things become confused and flaky.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 02, 2017, 02:30:56 pm
Oh, another thing..
...
Would that give a clue of why it didn't completely work?

That what? Can you post one thing at a time.

Oh, it worked.. the thing that I scratched through.. about getting connecting to the cam without booting it.

It works, but does show the "charge" symbol.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 02, 2017, 03:05:34 pm
OT - from a previous post on the topic.... regarding the bonuses offered when buying an E4. They are, to me, disappointing.

The most useful gifts that could be offered would be one or more of the following...
1. Soft case
2. Spare battery
3. External battery charger dock
4. Car charger cable
5. FLIR branded Powerbank
6. Screen protectors
7. FLIR branded thermometer


The last three items are not regular FLIR items but they should add them to their accessories :)

Just my 5 Cents on that topic. I own the soft case, a spare battery and external charging dock that the FLIR dealer gifted to me when I purchased my E4 in 2013. They are very useful accessories.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 02, 2017, 03:52:36 pm
Bud thank you for the time you spent on this and your willingness to share!!
And Bud, Sam, thanks for your patience helping me!

I got it all working and am happy like a little kid on Christmas Eve..!!  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: morbis55 on November 02, 2017, 06:35:33 pm
Quote
Download and install FLIR Tools: http://support.flir.com/SwDownload/app/RssSWDownload.aspx?ID=120 (http://support.flir.com/SwDownload/app/RssSWDownload.aspx?ID=120)

Should you use FLIR Tools / FLIR Tools+ 5.13 or FLIR Tools / FLIR Tools+ 6.3 ?
And I suppose the .exe file is what you need right? .zip file is 500MB
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 02, 2017, 06:45:19 pm
You will need FlirInstallNet.exe
If it is going to work by its own without any other installed giles i do not know.
I do not have an answer about which version or combination should be used. My installation is back from 2014. You have to try it by yourself.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 02, 2017, 07:29:36 pm
I used the latest version: FLIR Tools+ v 6.3. And that worked fine.
Indeed, download zip file, unzip it and install the software. After install, you need to navigate to: "C:\Program Files\FLIR Systems\FLIR Tools\bin\" and look for the file "FLIRInstallNet.exe".
Run that one and you're good to go.


B.t.w. I wanted a screen protector but didn't find so many suppliers for an Ex serie. If anybody is interested, you can find them here: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01HDQPBFW/ref=pe_3034960_236394800_TE_3p_dp_1 (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01HDQPBFW/ref=pe_3034960_236394800_TE_3p_dp_1)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 03, 2017, 06:38:29 am
PIP is now resizeable and moveable  8)

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=366774;image)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 03, 2017, 08:48:13 am
Man.. hahaha.. if you keep going, you end up digging stuff up even FLIR doesn't know is there..  8)

B.t.w. has there been any setting you came across (that could be unlocked) that enables you to turn off the "auto calibration"?
Or set it to "manual" or a user settable "time interval"?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bookaboo on November 03, 2017, 02:17:49 pm
Does anyone have a 3.9.0 upgrade pack. I have a V3.5.0 I'd like to liberate.
Previously linked files seem to have expired.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 03, 2017, 02:31:29 pm
Markofq posted it in this thread on page 8.
It seems to be still downloadable:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1334948/#msg1334948 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1334948/#msg1334948)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bookaboo on November 03, 2017, 03:07:21 pm
I saw that one thanks but neither Chrome nor Firefox will access that link as "Your connection is not secure".
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 03, 2017, 03:17:53 pm
I uploaded it for you via WeTransfer (about 18MB): https://we.tl/cZNKdp304m

The download link will stay valid for 7 days, so be on time..  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 03, 2017, 05:13:44 pm
Man.. hahaha.. if you keep going, you end up digging stuff up even FLIR doesn't know is there..  8)

B.t.w. has there been any setting you came across (that could be unlocked) that enables you to turn off the "auto calibration"?
Or set it to "manual" or a user settable "time interval"?

You may be able to turn off autoNUC in the resource tree using rset command, and then use long press of Archive button to trigger manual NUC when you want. If you do not know how to dump and manipulate the resource tree, search E4 Teardown thread for rls,rset,resource keywords.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: OrBy on November 03, 2017, 06:46:53 pm
Here is a .FIF I made for the normal E4 that turns off NUC'ing until the camera is restarted. (rset .tcomp.services.autoNuc.active false)
When I am going to record video I power on the camera - run the FIF, leave it connected to the charger for 15-20 min to warm up/equalize, then run a manual NUC by holding the "play" button to level it out.
Then your good to record without calibration popups.

(remember to rename it from .zip to .fif)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on November 04, 2017, 12:13:53 am
Just curious. What exactly was done to common_dll.dll that made it so u are allowed to modify conf.cfc?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on November 04, 2017, 06:02:16 am
Just curious. What exactly was done to common_dll.dll that made it so u are allowed to modify conf.cfc?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bookaboo on November 04, 2017, 01:33:20 pm
I uploaded it for you via WeTransfer (about 18MB): https://we.tl/cZNKdp304m

The download link will stay valid for 7 days, so be on time..  :)

Thanks to you and thanks to Bud. All sorted  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 04, 2017, 05:10:12 pm
Here is a .FIF I made for the normal E4 that turns off NUC'ing until the camera is restarted. (rset .tcomp.services.autoNuc.active false)
When I am going to record video I power on the camera - run the FIF, leave it connected to the charger for 15-20 min to warm up/equalize, then run a manual NUC by holding the "play" button to level it out.
Then your good to record without calibration popups.

(remember to rename it from .zip to .fif)

Thanks! I'll save this fif to try it out.

But I think I will follow Bud's suggestion initially, so that I don't have to connect it to the PC to turn off auto calibration.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 04, 2017, 05:19:20 pm
Man.. hahaha.. if you keep going, you end up digging stuff up even FLIR doesn't know is there..  8)

B.t.w. has there been any setting you came across (that could be unlocked) that enables you to turn off the "auto calibration"?
Or set it to "manual" or a user settable "time interval"?

You may be able to turn off autoNUC in the resource tree using rset command, and then use long press of Archive button to trigger manual NUC when you want. If you do not know how to dump and manipulate the resource tree, search E4 Teardown thread for rls,rset,resource keywords.

Thanks! Will look into this!  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheSteve on November 04, 2017, 05:39:52 pm
Wow, the hack is already being used for profit on ebay - so sad.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 04, 2017, 09:37:34 pm
Ok, this is a bit far from my skill set and searching an hour on the teardown thread did not bring me much further..

I'm not sure I understand the resource tree thing.
Are Bud and OrBy saying the same thing? Meaning you can only temporarily activate "no auto calibration" just like how you turn the E4 to USB mode using the "FLIRInstallNet" and "Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif"?

Meaning, to activate it you need a PC and after a full restart (>6 sec. ON/OFF button & temporary battery removal) all is back to "normal" mode?

Or is there a permanent way to turn off the auto calibration and 'long-press' Archive/Play to manually calibrate, untill one uses another fif file to undo that?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 04, 2017, 10:28:18 pm
If it is difficult for you then just use the solution OrBy provided. Yes you need a PC but once you upload the fif it takes effect rght away. Some parameters in the resource database have permanent properties, some not. You have to look at the attributes for the parameter, there is no one answers all thing. Flir cameras software is  MUCH more sofisticated than one may think.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 05, 2017, 03:41:24 pm
Thanks, I'll try to figure out a 'permanent' solution by strolling the threads later on..
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 07, 2017, 12:49:22 am
Can anybody tell me how to get into the service menu after executing the "Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif" command in the "FLIRInstallNet.exe" and accessing the web browser interface to the E4 by typing 192.168.0.2?

I can't seem to pass by the login screen with "flir" and "3vlig"..
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 07, 2017, 04:02:57 am
I do not think the new stock cameras have service menu in the web interface.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 07, 2017, 11:22:08 am
It does show the service menu item, but when clicking on it, it requests login data.
None of the login combinations mentioned in this thread worked..

But then how did you access the part where you could access the EEPROM?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 07, 2017, 04:58:49 pm
Have you tried password 1235 ? That WAS the EEPROM password. 2017 cameras may have a new password though.

Tread carefully inside the EEPROM !

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Zs8192 on November 07, 2017, 06:33:36 pm
I got my E4 2.0L with stock 3.9 FW.

1, After run FlirInstallNet and upload the temporary RNDIS fif file. (Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif from e4hack3c.zip)
2, Wait for the camera to get IP address assigned as usual, ping 192.168.0.2 and make sure the camera responds to ping.

I tried Win7 64bit and Win10 64bit but the RNDIS mode not working. Network starting but no usable IP. (169.254.96.140 or similar). No responds to ping.  :(

Would I be rude to ask if you could post these files?

I'm a newby at this and can find files about hack 2.3.0 (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)) but not the 2.11.0 and I'm not sure they're the same..  :-[

pull the RNDIS fif files from this zip archive

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg531346/#msg531346 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg531346/#msg531346)

I recommend only using the Temporary one. You will be in better control over the camera USB interface. The Temporary fif only enables RNDIS until reboot, after which the camera returns to UVC mode. You will perhaps need to run it 2-3 times during the procedure as you reboot but it makes sure the camera will not get stuck in RNDIS using some weirdo IP settings which may give you headache and inability to connect to it. Ask me how I know this.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on November 07, 2017, 06:45:47 pm
I tried Win7 64bit and Win10 64bit but the RNDIS mode not working. Network starting but no usable IP. (169.254.96.140 or similar). No responds to ping.  :(
I've experienced this behaviour quite a few times.  Windows or the Flir drivers or both really suck at RNDIS.
Anyway, when such an IP was reported, the camera was still accessible at "add one to the visible IP", say 169.254.96.141 for your 169.254.96.140 example.
I found the other method "connect camera to computer while completely turned off, see the battery charging screen, don't turn it on but apply the .fif" more reliable. The FTP server is then accessible with "anonymous" / no password, way less files locked, no need to telnet and "stopapp".
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on November 07, 2017, 11:35:42 pm

That's awesome!   :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 08, 2017, 01:33:29 am
I tried Win7 64bit and Win10 64bit but the RNDIS mode not working. Network starting but no usable IP. (169.254.96.140 or similar). No responds to ping.  :(

Try unplugging your computer from the network before running the .fif



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Zs8192 on November 08, 2017, 05:53:10 am
I tried Win7 64bit and Win10 64bit but the RNDIS mode not working. Network starting but no usable IP. (169.254.96.140 or similar). No responds to ping.  :(

Try unplugging your computer from the network before running the .fif

Problem solved:
Without network connection it not works. (Active network device, not need internet connection). I switched on the wifi connenction and everything is ok.  :)

Thanks! Good work Bud!  :D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mario.ti on November 08, 2017, 02:05:58 pm
hi,
i stuck at the beginning. When i switch to RNDIS mode, the connection is look ok, camera has IP 192.168.1.2 but then i receive  message in new little window: \\IRCAM8823\images, Information=53, can't find network path (or something like this, message is in my language, so i doesn't know, is translating is right)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 08, 2017, 02:25:11 pm
It is irrelevant, as long as you can connect using ftp you can go ahead.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mario.ti on November 08, 2017, 05:19:56 pm
i took back everyting, it's working just great. I have liberated e4  :-+

p.s. i have 8-digit serial, but it doesn't matter,
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: p5ycho on November 08, 2017, 08:38:54 pm
Well, jumped in on an E4 after following this thread, and what do I receive? An 1.2L/2.11 E4. Not what I expected. Apparently the 2016 E4's are still around...

Now I have some questions:
- Is there any reason to prefer the 2017 non-wifi E4 with 2.0 hardware over the 1.2L hardware?
- Will the hack for 3.9.0 also work on the 1.2L hardware?

I'd hate to miss out on all the extra goodies of the 3.9.0 hack... will this be 'backported' in the future?

I'm not sure if it's reasonable to demand a swap for a 2017 version. The one I received came with a completely flat battery, it needed an hour on the charger before any signs of life of the unit.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on November 08, 2017, 10:42:51 pm
Hi Bud,
Where do we get the extras (Advanced Pack) from?  Is it still in development?
Thanks!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on November 08, 2017, 11:58:40 pm
Well, jumped in on an E4 after following this thread, and what do I receive? An 1.2L/2.11 E4. Not what I expected. Apparently the 2016 E4's are still around...

Now I have some questions:
- Is there any reason to prefer the 2017 non-wifi E4 with 2.0 hardware over the 1.2L hardware?
- Will the hack for 3.9.0 also work on the 1.2L hardware?

I'd hate to miss out on all the extra goodies of the 3.9.0 hack... will this be 'backported' in the future?

I'm not sure if it's reasonable to demand a swap for a 2017 version. The one I received came with a completely flat battery, it needed an hour on the charger before any signs of life of the unit.

I believe they ship the batteries completely dead now due to new regulation with shipping lithium-ion batteries.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 09, 2017, 01:59:35 am
Hi Bud,
Where do we get the extras (Advanced Pack) from?  Is it still in development?
Thanks!

You get it here when it is released. Not yet.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 09, 2017, 02:05:48 am
... will this be 'backported' in the future?

Sorry we are not running a full time business operation here.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: MicroBliss on November 09, 2017, 05:57:51 am
hi
I cant connect my flir
I have already done backup, but on the other day I cant connect by filezilla or ever PC cant see it like usb flashcard.
when I plug in flir in PC: ''configuring terma cam...   camera ip adress 192.168.1.2... connecting to 192.168.1.2 Please wait...''
Flir E5 fw 3.9.0
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on November 09, 2017, 06:15:33 am
hi
I cant connect my flir
I have already done backup, but on the other day I cant connect by filezilla or ever PC cant see it like usb flashcard.
when I plug in flir in PC: ''configuring terma cam...   camera ip adress 192.168.1.2... connecting to 192.168.1.2 Please wait...''
Flir E5 fw 3.9.0
Try "recovery procedure" https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326) to connect the camera and access files etc.
Or try remove your wired network from the computer before connecting the camera, sometimes rebooting windows before connecting the camera helps.

BEWARE: Bud's package is for the E4 model. Anything else is at your own risk and not supported here, as applying the package to the E4 is at your own risk anyway.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mario.ti on November 09, 2017, 09:10:38 am
MicroBliss -  i have the same issue. I just hardreset the cam (unplug the battery for coupple minute), and reconect to usb
Note that after each rebootnig camera, you have to re-run RNDIS mode, then filezilla will have no problem; Or at least I had that :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 09, 2017, 11:12:43 am
Well, jumped in on an E4 after following this thread, and what do I receive? An 1.2L/2.11 E4. Not what I expected. Apparently the 2016 E4's are still around...

Now I have some questions:
- Is there any reason to prefer the 2017 non-wifi E4 with 2.0 hardware over the 1.2L hardware?
- Will the hack for 3.9.0 also work on the 1.2L hardware?

I'd hate to miss out on all the extra goodies of the 3.9.0 hack... will this be 'backported' in the future?

I'm not sure if it's reasonable to demand a swap for a 2017 version. The one I received came with a completely flat battery, it needed an hour on the charger before any signs of life of the unit.

I see you're also from NL.
I did get the 2.0L version with 3.9.0 firmware, but my battery also came in flat. Not the best thing for a Lithium battery, unless the E4 has a battery protection feature to completely shut down when it reaches less than 15%.
Either way, if you decide to return this one (wet kopen op afstand) to get a 2017 version, I got mine here:
http://nl.rs-online.com/web/p/thermal-imaging-cameras/8481365/ (http://nl.rs-online.com/web/p/thermal-imaging-cameras/8481365/)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: MicroBliss on November 09, 2017, 05:17:19 pm
MicroBliss -  i have the same issue. I just hardreset the cam (unplug the battery for coupple minute), and reconect to usb
Note that after each rebootnig camera, you have to re-run RNDIS mode, then filezilla will have no problem; Or at least I had that :)

Thanks, but didnt help

hi
I cant connect my flir
I have already done backup, but on the other day I cant connect by filezilla or ever PC cant see it like usb flashcard.
when I plug in flir in PC: ''configuring terma cam...   camera ip adress 192.168.1.2... connecting to 192.168.1.2 Please wait...''
Flir E5 fw 3.9.0
Try "recovery procedure" https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326) to connect the camera and access files etc.
Or try remove your wired network from the computer before connecting the camera, sometimes rebooting windows before connecting the camera helps.

BEWARE: Bud's package is for the E4 model. Anything else is at your own risk and not supported here, as applying the package to the E4 is at your own risk anyway.


When I Load FLIRInstallNet: Under Camera I should see FLIR USB video, but I see ..."conecting by local net(close to this in english)192.168.0.2". And when i run temporary RNDIS fif file, I see "response_timeout".
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: MicroBliss on November 09, 2017, 05:47:52 pm
"\\IRCAM4953\Images
Information = 53
no network path was found(close to it in english)"

perhaps when i did backup i cut folder?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 09, 2017, 05:59:20 pm
Bud, sorry to take up your time with my questions.
But if you have the opportunity, could you look at this:

On my camera I have the following “Measurement” options”
- No Measurements
- Center Spot
- Hot Spot (center spot & hottest spot within the brackets)
- Cold Spot (center spot & coldest spot within the brackets)
- 3 Spots (3 spots next to each other, the middle one like the normal center spot)
- Hot Spot – Spot (center spot & hottest spot within the brackets & ?T between those two)
- Hot Spot – Temp (hottest spot within the brackets & user pre-set Temp & ?T between those two)

When I check your “Basic Hack” files, in the ui.d/presets.d folder, I find these .rsc files:
- preset_centerHotColdSpot
- preset_centerspot
- preset_deltaSpot
- preset_deltaTemp
- preset_fiveSpots
- preset_hotColdSpot
- preset_nomeasure
- preset_threeSpots
- preset_twoHotSpots

Why are not all measurement options showing on my camera?
(Or are they not supposed to yet, but part of the advanced hack?)

I was also wondering, if during your feature discovering journey you have stumbled on a function that can be unlocked to have this feature:
Center Spot & Hottest Spot & Coldest Spot within the brackets
and :
Either be able to resize the brackets, or have them cover a larger area than they are now with the “Hot Spot” and “Cold Spot” functions?

And if not, would it be possible to adjust the text in the .rsc files to construct my own preset and just (re)name that to for example “preset_threeSpots”, since I won’t be using the “threeSpots” function?
Or are these .rcs files not adjustable this way and need their operation be facilitated in some other part of the software?


Other thing I was wondering is about the autoNUC.

Although OrBy’s method of (temporarily) disabling the autoNUC function by means of running the .fif file works, sometimes the camera freezes and I have to (hard) reset it (by holding the ON/OFF button 6 seconds and removing the battery for a few seconds). Then the camera looses this feature and autoNUC is back at it..

When this happens while I’m away from my PC, I can’t get it back.

Some camera’s, like the WIRIS Gen 2, allow you to change the autoNUC mode in the settings menu, where you can choose between “auto”, “every 1 minute”, “every 5 minutes” and “manual”.
Have you come across such similar function or feature while discovering and unlocking the E4 possibilities?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: MicroBliss on November 09, 2017, 06:30:56 pm
Conected by "Recovery procedure" (user: anonymous, pass: NcFTP@ ). Load bakup. Didnt help.
"\\IRCAM4953\Images
Information = 1231
network folder is not available(close to it in english)..."
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on November 09, 2017, 08:18:24 pm
Conected by "Recovery procedure" (user: anonymous, pass: NcFTP@ ). Load bakup. Didnt help.
"\\IRCAM4953\Images
Information = 1231
network folder is not available(close to it in english)..."
Sorry, didn't give you full instructions: Use "Recovery procedure" to connect, do not upload backup now but rather apply the patches then as written, you can probably skip the part with telnet and stopapp.
Ignore the messages about "\\IRCAM4953\Images "
Based on my experience that RNDIS connection to the camera works more reliably on my PC when initiated like "recovery procedure" than in "normal mode". Both give access to all the files you need to upload to apply the patches.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on November 10, 2017, 12:24:30 am

I uploaded the three spot fix (check post #218)

Place the downloaded file in /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/  and it should work for you.  Make sure you backup the old file before replacing it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 10, 2017, 12:27:43 am
Conected by "Recovery procedure" (user: anonymous, pass: NcFTP@ ). Load bakup. Didnt help.
"\\IRCAM4953\Images
Information = 1231
network folder is not available(close to it in english)..."

I've already told you this message is irrelevant to the liberation procedure. Not sure why you can't pass your concern. If you want to get it working then please do not post it here and open another thread.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 10, 2017, 12:43:14 am
Quote from: Squawk

Why are not all measurement options showing on my camera?
(Or are they not supposed to yet, but part of the advanced hack?)

There are things other than just the config file that affect that. Advanced package does not add anything there.

Quote
And if not, would it be possible to adjust the text in the .rsc files to construct my own preset and just (re)name that to for example “preset_threeSpots”, since I won’t be using the “threeSpots” function?
Or are these .rcs files not adjustable this way and need their operation be facilitated in some other part of the software?

I did not try to adjust but it should work, the rsc files with the box tool should have the box dimensions definef in the rsc, just give it a try.

Quote
Some camera’s, like the WIRIS Gen 2, allow you to change the autoNUC mode in the settings menu, where you can choose between “auto”, “every 1 minute”, “every 5 minutes” and “manual”.
Have you come across such similar function or feature while discovering and unlocking the E4 possibilities?

No i have not seen such feature in the menu.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 10, 2017, 12:58:56 am
I just became the owner of a FLIR ETS320. It is basically an E8 chassis in a desk mounted inspection role.

Looking at the video reviews it appears to be loaded with firmware 3.50. Whilst it is already 320 x 240 pixels displayed, I suspect the noise generator is still present and doing its filthy work to degrade the image. The available menu options are also a little limited.

I think I will have to install firmware 3.9 and have a play with the E4 upgrade to see if I can customise the ETS320 a little  :)

It will take a couple of weeks to arrive with me, but in that time I can study the latest upgrade approach and see if it will work with an E8 chassis.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Summer on November 10, 2017, 11:44:55 am
My Flir E4 non Wifi model 2.0L firmware  3.9.0.

can I Resolution and Menu Hack Thread ,

Is there a way so I can upgrade Flir......?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on November 10, 2017, 11:56:36 am
Read this post:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326)
It's been tested and working on non-Wifi models too.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 10, 2017, 12:35:05 pm
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions Bud!  :)

Quote from: Squawk

Why are not all measurement options showing on my camera?
(Or are they not supposed to yet, but part of the advanced hack?)

There are things other than just the config file that affect that. Advanced package does not add anything there.


But if 'only':

- preset_deltaSpot
- preset_deltaTemp
- preset_threeSpots

are usable, why did we also have to copy:

- preset_centerHotColdSpot
- preset_fiveSpots
- preset_hotColdSpot
- preset_twoHotSpots

into the "ui.d/presets.d folder"?

Or are those functions that, if we were to rename them to a 'slot' we don't need (for example rename "preset_fiveSpots" to "preset_threeSpots") would enable us to have that function?

Would it not be possible to get a 'double row' of options, much like the color palette options?

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 10, 2017, 12:37:38 pm
My Flir E4 non Wifi model 2.0L firmware  3.9.0.

can I Resolution and Menu Hack Thread ,

Is there a way so I can upgrade Flir......?

Yes!  :)

I have a non-WiFi E4, model 2.0L and firmware 3.9.0 and it works.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 11, 2017, 01:03:08 am
To whoever is interested:

Apparently, there are only 7 'slots' available for the menu item "Measurement".
Therefore if you want a new/different function, one has to sacrifice an existing function by renaming the desired function to the sacrificed one.

I've decided to utilize the "preset_threeSpots.rsc" function
This is a 3 Spot temperature measure function (3 spots close next to each other) without a way to move these points.
I had no real use for this function.

Instead I preferred to have the "preset_centerHotColdSpot.rsc" function, which shows this:

(Center) spot temp
Hottest spot in the box
Coldest spot in the box

So I renamed "preset_centerHotColdSpot.rsc" to "preset_threeSpots.rsc".
I also modded the .rsc file so the box size within which the hottest and coldest are displayed is larger.

NOTE: Make sure you backup the original "preset_threeSpots.rsc" file, in case you want to revert back to this measurement function!

Make a connection to the PC via the usual way and connect to the camera via FTP.
Overwriting the existing "preset_threeSpots.rsc", the included "preset_threeSpots.rsc" file should be copied to:

\FlashBFS\system\ui.d\presets.d

(edit: added sample picture of this preset.)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: MicroBliss on November 11, 2017, 09:38:28 am
My E5 2.0L fw 3.9.0 without Wi-Fi has hacked, but it complicated conect to PC. It need nard reset to Flir and reset PC, and only by FTP.
Also when turn on Flir I see that "This device has unseported softwear...", but it works.

Thanks Bud
thanks all

How can i see that resolution has changed?) Images before had 320x240, and after 320x240.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on November 11, 2017, 10:10:36 am
Also when turn on Flir I see that "This device has unseported softwear...", but it works.
How can i see that resolution has changed?) Images before had 320x240, and after 320x240.
The message is added on purpose by Bud's hack, to indicate the camera doesn't run official firmware.
Make a snapshot, the view the snapshot with the camera, look into details, somewhere it says "Thermal resolution", that should indicate 320x240 now.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: p5ycho on November 11, 2017, 11:16:15 am
... will this be 'backported' in the future?

Sorry we are not running a full time business operation here.
Of course, I understand that this is something you have spent a lot of free time on and your effort is very much appreciated. I'm not asking you to do a backport, it's your free time and you should spend it as you please.
What iI was asking is if it would be a reasonable assumption that with some extra effort this could be done, or that it cannot be done because of, for example, some blocking hardware difference.

I'm also trying to figure out if the Flir E4 2.0 hardware is an actual improvement over the 1.2. The 1.2L can also be patched to firmware 3.9.0 if i'm not mistaken, so I figured that the 1.2L hardware might eventually also be supported on firmware 3.9.0.

For the RNDIS connection, I had to manually set the IP and gateway to be able to connect. auto configuration is very unreliable, it only worked once out of 20+ attempts.

edit:
.calib.nrdp.ds250C_we_ap_fi_le.measureInfo.temporalMk double 13.196414
That's an ok noise figure I guess  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Summer on November 11, 2017, 06:59:36 pm
My Flir E4 non Wifi model 2.0L firmware  3.9.0.

Is this a success?

Power on the camera and see if you now have 320x240 resolution working.  <=== step 15 , I see is 80x60 , how to I check resolution

I skipped the step 15 and proceeded to step 16. Now the resolution shows 320X240 by itself without me editing anything. Did I succeed in the hacking?


(https://i.imgur.com/6ABJx4c.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QEehcVd.jpg)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 11, 2017, 10:23:03 pm
@ Summer:

Yes, your hack was succesful!  :)

Step 15 is not really a step you have to do. It is more a check if the hack worked so far.
And it did. Both your resolution and the options you now have to select different color pallets, confirms that.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Myself on November 12, 2017, 12:17:33 am
Of course, I understand that this is something you have spent a lot of free time on and your effort is very much appreciated.

You know, I should take a moment to echo this, and add my gratitude as well. For Bud specifically, but also for the whole rowdy bunch of hackers in here. And for the folks at Flir who continue to put such top-end hardware into a nice affordable little package!  :-DD

I ordered my E4 Wifi just before the upgrade package was published, so that actually happened while my unit was in transit. It arrived, and within minutes (after letting the battery charge), I was able to unlock all this additional functionality without a hitch, following exquisitely detailed directions, from a clever fellow who put a ton of time into this, standing on the shoulders of a truly insane thread where a bunch of other clever people put a ton of time into the last hack.

Without these developments and the downward price-pressure they exerted on the whole market starting in 2014, I think reasonable-quality thermal imaging would still be out of reach for a great many of us. Now there are several good options, and we as hobbyists have never had it so good.

I think for every noob who finds the Post button more convenient than the Search button, and for every scumbag profiting from this hack on fleaBay, there are countless more of us quietly enjoying the fruits of Bud's labor. (And hopefully doing even more cool stuff with the time we saved not having to do this one from scratch.)

 :-+

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Summer on November 12, 2017, 04:37:56 am
@ Summer:

Yes, your hack was succesful!  :)

Step 15 is not really a step you have to do. It is more a check if the hack worked so far.
And it did. Both your resolution and the options you now have to select different color pallets, confirms that.

Thank you very much
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Den_teh on November 14, 2017, 10:08:16 am
How does the update work from Bud to flir e4 without wifi? or are there any problems?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: morbis55 on November 14, 2017, 08:26:46 pm
How does the update work from Bud to flir e4 without wifi? or are there any problems?

Read the freakin' thread, it has already been said a dozen times. Can't be that hard to go through the last few pages.

Btw wanted to tell my gratitudes to Bud, everything worked for me too.
Also thanks to Squawk for the center+hot+coldspot preset.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: anton610 on November 14, 2017, 08:40:57 pm
BUD!
MANY THANKS for the great WORK!!!

Flir E4 without wifi works!

p.s. don't use win8.1
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: kaz911 on November 15, 2017, 08:02:32 am
does anyone have the first numbers of the serials for E4/E5's with wifi?  (so first 3-4 numbers of serial?)

thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 15, 2017, 08:11:30 am
BUD!
MANY THANKS for the great WORK!!!

Flir E4 without wifi works!

p.s. don't use win8.1

Why do you think i use 8.1 ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on November 15, 2017, 08:35:57 am
does anyone have the first numbers of the serials for E4/E5's with wifi?  (so first 3-4 numbers of serial?)

thanks in advance :)
wifi units started around 63997xxx
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: anton610 on November 15, 2017, 09:16:37 am
Hi,

just for info to other people with win 8.1
i tryed it with win 8.1 and it didn't work properly. So i made it with a VM and win7 without problems...

Thanks!
BR anton
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FredB on November 17, 2017, 08:21:49 pm
My Flir E4 non Wifi model 2.0L firmware  3.9.0.

Is this a success?

Power on the camera and see if you now have 320x240 resolution working.  <=== step 15 , I see is 80x60 , how to I check resolution

I skipped the step 15 and proceeded to step 16. Now the resolution shows 320X240 by itself without me editing anything. Did I succeed in the hacking?


(https://i.imgur.com/6ABJx4c.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QEehcVd.jpg)

I see that the digital resolution is 320x240 for hardwareversion E4 2.0.
For my E4 1.2L I think this is 640x480.
Or am I wrong?
Did Flir downgrade the hardware?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on November 17, 2017, 08:23:40 pm


I see that the digital resolution is 320x240 for hardwareversion E4 2.0.
For my E4 1.2L I think this is 640x480.
Or am I wrong?
Did Flir downgrade the hardware?
I was wondering the same thing, I believe the old ones were indeed 640x480.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FredB on November 17, 2017, 09:16:18 pm
My archieved photos say 640x480 for digital resolution, I'm sure.  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 17, 2017, 11:27:16 pm
Read the datasheet, it says 640x480 for the digital camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 18, 2017, 12:01:55 pm
So the hack reduces the Original digital camera resolution from 640x480 to 320x240?

Is it possible to adjust the hack in a such a way to get the digital camera resolution back to 640x480?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 18, 2017, 12:09:29 pm
With regard to visible camera resolution, it is not uncommon for the visible light image to be cropped and downsampled to match the thermal image when a 'dual image' save is active. This is done to simplify image comparison and even Image Fusion. The image you have provided details of was a dual image save.

Try taking a 'visible light only' image and check its resolution. The E4 camera is 640 x 480 pixels but what is saved depends upon how the E4 is configured. Visible light camera resolution can be set by a configuration line in the configuration file on earlier E4 cameras

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 18, 2017, 12:43:32 pm
Thank you for your insight Fraser, you sure are a living IRpedia! :)

Indeed as you described, it is a setting thing.
When one goes to: Settings - Save Options - Photo as seperate JPEG: and choose "ON", it will save the digital camera photo as a 640x480 JPEG file.
But when this option is set to "OFF", you will have the digital photo resolution of 320x240, as shown in Summer's screenshot above.

This is regardless of the "Digital Camera" only setting in the "Image Mode" option in the main toolbar (menu button press).

Strangly though, in this "Digital Camera" (only) mode, it makes the first photo (that would normally be an IR photo) in 320x240, but the (second) photo (that would normally be the visible camera photo) in 640x480.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FredB on November 18, 2017, 04:27:07 pm
That is a difference between the E4 1.2L FW2.3 en E4 2.0 FW3.9 because the setting of the imagemode option doesn't matter for the E4 1.2L. Digital resolution is always 640x480 in the archieved photos.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 18, 2017, 08:41:42 pm
So the hack reduces the Original digital camera resolution from 640x480 to 320x240?

It has nothing to do with digital camera, it only unlocks the config file which then can be edited to E8 configuration.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 18, 2017, 08:46:07 pm
That is a difference between the hacked E4 1.2L FW2.3 en E4 2.0 FW3.9

You should not be using the "hacked" word until you compare the stock cameras. If the stock WiFi camera shows same information, you should ask Flir why they changed it. To find out you can roll back the mod (see recovery procedure on page 8 ) or ask someone here who has not applied the mod yet to check what their stock camera says.



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FredB on November 18, 2017, 11:29:50 pm
Yes, I understand and you are right, Bud. It will be a stock change by Flir and has nothing to do with the hack.
I first wonder why they make the change. My first thought was a hardware change but Fraser did explain it very well, I think.
By the way, I’m glad to ‘see’ you are back for this hack. Three years ago you did already some very good magic work together with Janekivi for the E4 1.2L, that I own. I tested at the time for Janekivi.
I wonder if the possibilities will be more than at the time. I already saw the new medical.pal you found.
Keep doing good work, Bud.  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: goodmancz on November 19, 2017, 11:19:05 am
Hello all,
I would like to ask you is it possible to buy new E4 with or without wifi that is possible to hack to 320x240 E8? Is there any E4 that cant be hackable? Or if I get newer firmware than 3.9.0 is only limitation?
I would like to buy on ebay or amazon, can you help me? Many thanks dear comunity!  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: anton610 on November 19, 2017, 02:21:43 pm
see Reply #325

Hardware 2.0L
Firmware is upgrade or downgradeable (i think)

BR a.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 19, 2017, 05:49:35 pm
Yes, I understand and you are right, Bud. It will be a stock change by Flir and has nothing to do with the hack.
I first wonder why they make the change. My first thought was a hardware change but Fraser did explain it very well, I think.

No worries. 640x480 is still there, as was shown in the screenshot here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1326599/#msg1326599 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1326599/#msg1326599)

You can see what the embedded image information says in the right pane.
Also, take any E4 image and run this exiftool command:

exiftool.exe -b -embeddedimage flirXXXX.jpg >test.jpg

You will get the 640x480 digital camera image  in test.jpg
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Tom01 on November 21, 2017, 06:14:19 pm
Bud, great work!

I had E4 1.2L, but, after malfunction, service Flir replaced to new 2.0L. I used for half a year with degraded resolution. Now is great again. :)

Two question:
1. How can I remove record menu from toolbar?
2. How can I remove splash screen with "This device is insupported...."

Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 21, 2017, 06:32:10 pm
1. Edit toolbar-config.xml , find that line and comment it out or remove
2. You will have to live with it, it is a very small price to pay
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 21, 2017, 10:42:38 pm
Bud, would it be possible to edit the config file in such a way, that in the "Menu button - measurement options", we would get a 'double row' of options, much like the color palette options?
This way we could have a 'slot' for all available items.

Or would it take more than just editing the config file?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 21, 2017, 10:54:47 pm
If you think that not all presets are displayed because of space limitation in the menu bar then this is not the case. Presets names are hard coded, you cant add arbitrary ones. The software decides which ones to display, the logic is unknown.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: le_yum on November 23, 2017, 09:07:52 pm
Bud, thank you for the hack!
can i send you a donation for a pack of beer?
-e4 non wifi-

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 23, 2017, 10:51:30 pm
Ah, oke.. thank you for clarifying!

Too bad though..  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on November 23, 2017, 10:59:53 pm
I'm a bit surprised. There are 154 downloads of Bud's hack, yet there are only 10 "thank you's" in the post bar and less than 20 "thank you" posts..

Where are the other 124??

Very small effort imho.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: kaz911 on November 24, 2017, 07:24:00 am
Just FYI for Flir UK Black Friday - massive discounts - E4 Wifi with car charger and pouch - £699,- incl VAT. E6 is <1000

http://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/bf2017/ (http://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/bf2017/)


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: pjuk on November 24, 2017, 12:31:19 pm
Hello...first post here!

I've been reading this thread as well as the huge amount of other info on the E4 hack elsewhere on the forum and obviously come away impressed with what can be done with a "cheaper" device. I'm in the market for a cheap thermal imaging camera for general lab and PCB diagnostics and the E4 (+hack) looks ideal - the question is where can you buy it? I'm based in the UK and the only place that I can find that has the E4 Wifi version is direct from FLIR (as also indicated by the above post - for a great price!). Does anyone know if this model will ship with the appropriate hardware + firmware to apply the hack?

Lastly, has anyone tried to do this on a Mac? I cannot see an issue with the wifi method since it just requires python and putty to modify and upload the files, all of which can be done in terminal and with a text editor.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 24, 2017, 01:41:45 pm
I'm a bit surprised. There are 154 downloads of Bud's hack, yet there are only 10 "thank you's" in the post bar and less than 20 "thank you" posts..

Where are the other 124??

Thank you my friend. It's allright, the award was overcoming a technical challenge, not  getting recognition.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 24, 2017, 02:05:06 pm
Pjuk,

Cameras that come direct from FLIR usually come with the very latest firmware. FLIR do not seem to hold large stocks so they are often fresh from the factory with calibration dates from a few weeks before delivery to the customer. Older stock is sometimes to be found from sources such as Amazon or provincial dealerships.

My understanding is that the latest firmware 3.12 IS NOT compatible with Bud's clever upgrade. I do not know whether a downgrade to firmware 3.9 is possible. Such carries the risk of bricking the camera so needs due consideration.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: pjuk on November 24, 2017, 02:18:04 pm
Thanks for letting me know without me finding out the hard way! Maybe I'll just stick with a non-wifi version for now, although the wifi would be very useful. Shame no-one knows about downgrading from 3.12 to 3.9

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: anton610 on November 24, 2017, 05:13:51 pm
Hi,
got my E4 no wifi with 2.0L and 3.9 FW two weeks ago from messgeraete-chemnitz.de
wrote a mail befor to check if the E4 has the right hardware 2.0L, price was 775€
Calibration was in October.

so ask for a E4 with calibration in Oktober.

hope this helps

BR a.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: unclerunkle on December 02, 2017, 04:23:17 am
Really wanted to avoid problems, and I followed Bud's steps slowly and to a T (really, the steps were easy), but now I get banding on the screen like the thermal sensor is broke or something.  I have attached a screenshot of it with the shutter closed below.

The resolution hack went well with no issues (confirmed higher res) then I proceeded to apply the menu hacks at step #16.  Rebooted E4 as suggested and then started playing with the new settings.  The issue started popping up around the time I was messing with the different pallettes and the hot/cold spots.

At this point, I'm like "whatever, these other settings are nice but I don't really need them."  I copy over my original menu files from my backup and again restart the camera.  However, the problem now persists even with the original menu.  At this point I start freaking out a little (and still am), so I decide to do a factory reset.  No go.  At this point I'm like there must be a bad config file somewhere so I decide to copy over ALL my original backup files to the E4 in hopes of resolve the issue.  Issue still persists :|

So, any suggestions?  I really don't know what's wrong.  Maybe my issue is that I tried applying all the new menu settings?

Model E4 2.0L
Software 3.9.0 (camera came with this version)
PN 63906-0604 (wifi model)

EDIT:  Decided to use the FLIRInstallNet.exe app with previously-posted E4 3.9.0 .fif file to see if I could get it as close to stock as possible.  Reimage (I think that's what it would be with this tool) completed but after reboot I see the same behavior.  Perhaps this E4 was not capable of running at 320x240 for some reason or I have a defective unit?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 02, 2017, 02:13:19 pm
I see the screenshot you attached has 320x240. Is this after you tried to restore from hacked state? Or before?

I had one hack try failed as well. Not with your reported problem, but I also had some strange things.
In my case, I literally reversed every step from the hack.

I deleted every file copied during the hack (all steps in reverse order) and copied back the original respective files from the backup I made.
Including putting back the original config file as the last reversed step. (I did not try to copy back the complete backup, just the files replaced in the hack steps.)
Then did a hard reset (holding the ON button for 7 seconds and removing the battery for 5 minutes).

This got my E4 (non WiFi) back to its original state, resolution and menu structure.

If you get to this point and the screen is still messed up, I can't think but the problem lies in your hardware having a failure somewhere.
Also, I think if you get to this point, there should be no trace in the E4 that would alert a FLIR repair service person you tried to temper with it by installing a hack.
And you could choose to return it (we have a 14 day money back guarantee in Europe, not sure if you have such a thing in the US), or send it back in for repair.
Be aware though, there is a new firmware out (3.12) that the hack does not seem compatible with. Chances are, that if you send it back for repair and get it returned, they put firmware version 3.12 on it.

I hope this is of any help for you..
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: unclerunkle on December 02, 2017, 03:22:50 pm
Thanks for the reply.  Every little bit helps.

Good catch on the 320x240 in the screenshot.  I can confirm though that the camera says that pic is 80x60 thermal resolution and 320x240 digital.  Looks like the camera just upscales the thermal image to the digital resolution.

Also, really interesting is that today, after leaving the camera battery unplugged overnight, I no longer get the banding.   :-//

/Very confused.  Perhaps the sensor was overheating or overvolted somehow?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: unclerunkle on December 02, 2017, 10:12:12 pm
I redid just the basic hack (no menu's from step 16) and everything starts off well.  After about 5-10 minutes, the banding re-appears.  Attached are pics of thermal 80x60, 320x240 initial, 320x240 after 5 minutes, and 320x240 after 10 minutes for comparison.  I'm going to venture the sensor is bad?  Next testing I do will be reverting to 80x60 for a long term test.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 03, 2017, 01:18:48 pm
Thanks for sharing your findings.

Reversion back to pre-hack and doing a long term test may indeed point to a hardware failure somewhere.

Good luck!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tomas123 on December 03, 2017, 05:16:16 pm
  I'm going to venture the sensor is bad?

I think, your sensor is good but you have serious trouble with your flat-field correction (FFC).
Does your shutter work?
The row and column noise is not compensated by uniformity correction.

PS: I love the distortion correction by FLIR in RAW images   :-DD
Code: [Select]
$ exiftool FLIR0010.jpg -b -RawThermalImage > FLIR0010.png
$ convert -define png:swap-bytes=on FLIR0010.png -auto-level FLIR0010a.png
 

 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=376196;image)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Den_teh on December 05, 2017, 05:18:48 pm
how do i reset a photo counter?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on December 05, 2017, 06:56:21 pm
Just connect the camera as USB stick and delete ALL files/folders on it.

After a reboot, factory reset and delete all images through the menu, the counter starts at 1.

Of course, make a backup before you delete anything.

regards
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 05, 2017, 07:27:19 pm
Regarding deleting images to reset the image counter. From other posts in this forum you will see that it is a very bad idea to format the cameras image memory area. Never be tempted to do so as a short cut to deleting all images.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Den_teh on December 06, 2017, 10:39:28 am
Is it possible to make a resolution of 160x120? I think for my e4 it will be better.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 06, 2017, 03:23:12 pm
Den-teh,

Why would you want 160 x 120 pixels when the E4 is calibrated and capable of 320 x 240 ?

The natural resolution of the cameras LCD display is also 320 x 240, a perfect match for the full microbolometer resolution.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Den_teh on December 06, 2017, 07:58:40 pm
still a problem. on the street -3, and he shows -10 ((
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: apelly on December 06, 2017, 08:11:00 pm
From other posts in this forum you will see that it is a very bad idea to format the cameras image memory area. Never be tempted to do so as a short cut to deleting all images.
I haven't seen that information before, or I've forgotten. And there's no way I'm going to work out where I left off the other thread and resume reading.

Is this just a simple thing of Winblows not being able to format to the same type of filesystem that's on the camera?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 06, 2017, 08:25:08 pm
Hi Apelly,

It is a new thread that is currently discussing the issue.......

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-'there-is-no-memory-card'-error/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-'there-is-no-memory-card'-error/)

Another thread also details the same problem after doing a format of the cameras picture memory.

I have no information on what causes this situation, but suspect that the PC instigated format overwrites something unique and important in the flash memory area. The cameras firmware then effectively loses sight of the Flash memory so no pictures can be stored.

This has happened to other users in the past and has required 'repair' by FLIR as no one knew exactly what was wrong or missing from the Flash memory area.

In the above referenced thread I have made some basic comments in an effort to help diagnose the cause of the problem, but sadly I am no expert on the Ex series firmware inner workings.

Formatting a flash drive should not cause serious harm to the operation of the camera, the fact that it does is unacceptable as users can, and do, format flash drives in everyday life. FLIR have messed up here.

Fraser

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on December 07, 2017, 02:01:44 pm
Hello together,

I got a Flir E4 with Firmware 3.1.2 so I used the 3.9.0 upgrade package and downgraded the firmware with NO issues.

Now I will try Buds method for upgrading...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on December 07, 2017, 03:35:01 pm
worked 75%, but some of the small pics in the menu are missing, but the menu is FULL functional.

Just the pics are missing...


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Qwiq on December 08, 2017, 06:17:39 am
Do you know if this could possibly work for the WiFi version?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: RepairLab on December 09, 2017, 04:01:09 pm
Bud,

Thank you very much for your efforts and the time you spent on this project.
You did a great job.

I just performed the upgrade on my brand new E4 non wifi 2.0L. To be honest I had some difficulties but I was finally able to figure it all out by reading several of your posts here and there.
So Yeap, just posting to say thanks and would like to buy you a beer or something in return so let me know if you accept donations.

Cheers

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 10, 2017, 10:00:07 am
Thank you my friend. You still may not have the job complete, there should be no manufacturer logo in a properly liberated system.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: RepairLab on December 10, 2017, 10:34:51 am
Thank you my friend. You still may not have the job complete, there should be no manufacturer logo in a properly liberated system.

you are right, photo is during the difficulties I mentioned where the resolution was upgraded but I have done something wrong with the conf.   ::)

The only problem I now have is the alignment images in MSX mode when shooting close ups. But I found some posts on calibration so I am working on it! Thank you again!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 10, 2017, 02:19:08 pm
Just in case my post on a 2017 FW3.5 / HW2.0L Ex chassis issue is of any interest to readers of this thread....

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-ex-chassis-ets320-interesting-'fault'-may-apply-to-e4-e5-e6-e8/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-ex-chassis-ets320-interesting-'fault'-may-apply-to-e4-e5-e6-e8/)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sherifftruman on December 11, 2017, 07:35:56 pm
So, I don’t have a Flirinstallnet in the program files/flir systems folder. I don’t even have a FLIR Tools folder there. I’m on FLIR tools 6.4. Doesn’t seem like they would change it. I can do the ctrl-shift-alt deal and click on the camera on the update screen to select the fif file to use but if I do that on the rndis temporary fif it then asks what version of eFLIRinstall to use and I can’t find it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sherifftruman on December 11, 2017, 10:41:20 pm
Hello together,

I got a Flir E4 with Firmware 3.1.2 so I used the 3.9.0 upgrade package and downgraded the firmware with NO issues.

Now I will try Buds method for upgrading...

Incedentally, I did the same on my new from FLIR E4 as well. That part worked just fine.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sherifftruman on December 12, 2017, 03:29:41 am
So, I eventually deleted FLIR Tools and installed an older version I found and it Installed FlirInstallnet.exe, so I was able to get it working.

Thanks. Loving these changes just playing around for 5 minutes!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Qwiq on December 15, 2017, 04:15:52 am
Hello together,

I got a Flir E4 with Firmware 3.1.2 so I used the 3.9.0 upgrade package and downgraded the firmware with NO issues.

Now I will try Buds method for upgrading...

Can this be used for the E4 w/WiFi model?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sherifftruman on December 17, 2017, 01:00:29 am
Hello together,

I got a Flir E4 with Firmware 3.1.2 so I used the 3.9.0 upgrade package and downgraded the firmware with NO issues.

Now I will try Buds method for upgrading...

Can this be used for the E4 w/WiFi model?

Worked for me. Evidently they don’t do any checking to see if the new version number is higher than current.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: susann on December 17, 2017, 05:32:55 pm
Firmwaredowngrade from 3.12.0 to 3.9.0 worked with Flir Tools 6.4 (was not possible with older Flir Tools 5.0) as well as the described steps from Bud to patch conf.cfc and replace common_dll.dll on a non-WiFi Flir E4 2.0L - thanks man! :-+ I just needed the resolution enhancement, so I have not tested the pallette files etc.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on December 21, 2017, 09:25:25 pm
After doing 1 big mistake, i guess the latest flir 6.4xx was blocking the log in by name.
Its my birthday today i coud never have better gift after done the fix  :-+.
Thanks to all, and noob  :-+ !

Always funny with pictures.






Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 24, 2017, 04:16:00 am
Advanced update package for E4 2.0L WiFi fw v3.9.0

DISCLAIMER: YOU PERFORM THIS UPDATE AT YOUR OWN RISK

Christmas 2017 is approaching fast. Good news to my fellow E4 fans: Santa has just dropped by and here is your long wished Christmas present: the Advanced Liberation Pack for the E4 2.0L fw v3.9.0.
You have to have the Basic Liberation Package (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326) installed first, if you have not yet. Then apply this one on top of it.

Take a backup copy of your camera before applying the mod. You will need it to roll the change back in case of problems.

With the mod in place you should NOT apply firmware updates published by the camera manufacturer. Such updates may overwrite critical files and the camera may stop working. If you want to apply such update you first have to remove the mod and return to the stock configuration.

The mod is provided for your personal use. In case you need to sell the camera, please roll the change back to the stock firmware. There will be a quick splash screen at startup reminding you of that. If someone, who is not aware of the said condition in the previous paragraph, buys the mod-ed camera from you and applies a manufacturer firmware update, the person will end up with a bricked camera. Please be considerate and do not do that.

This update was made for and using E4 2.0L 3.9.0 WiFi version device. It has not been tested on a non-WiFi device, though my thoughts are it should work with it too. You will have  to use USB and RNDIS mode to apply the update to non-WiFi camera.

Please report errors/omissions in the installation instructions in this thread, and share your success (or fail) stories.

'=====================

Edit:  Some people asked how they can donate. Thanks everyone for your kindness, here is a few cryptocurrency addresses:

Bitcoin:
19zxE1RPm2bX3AmyUAkPEB2iyyCUUVRPmg

Ethereum:
0xb9Bf7301ffB58c1d1D3fAc951F888dC9Bdd1410d

Ripple:
rBo5NVTka69dtnKYvZp3tMEY35yMLK44Du

'=====================

Update: Liberation Package for E4 2.0L fw v3.12.0 is here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)
Update: CommonDLL for E4 2.0L fw v3.16.0 is here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082). Except for this file, use the package from v3.12.0 to  liberate v3.16.0
Update: So far the following FW versions confirmed working: 3.9.0, 3.11.0, 3.12.0, 3.13.0, 3.16.0. They may use different packages, you need to scan this thread for information and attachments for a particular fw version.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on December 24, 2017, 03:00:24 pm
Many thanks and happy christmas.

On quick test the non-wifi 3.9.0 is working fine, many new things.

Little early to post this:
The medical pallet is missing on the camera (got 12 different).
I did copy the system map at once.

I will check after next dinner brake, recopy or whatever. preset_screening.rsc
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 24, 2017, 03:27:04 pm
Ah, the stock WiFi version includes the medical palette. OK i will add it to the package for non-WiFi owners.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 25, 2017, 01:46:09 am
The Advanced package has too many features and may be overwhelming. But for experimenters it can be goldmine for the price, because some of the features only available in $10K price range Flir cameras.

To help learn it, download the Flir Exx series user manual which has chapters on working with Isotherms, Images annotations, Time-lapse, Screening alarms and more.

http://support.flir.com/DocDownload/Assets/dl/t810190-en-us_usl.pdf (http://support.flir.com/DocDownload/Assets/dl/t810190-en-us_usl.pdf)

Note: Where the manual refers to the Programmable button, on your liberated E4 (Basic or Advanced) it is the Back button.

Also, there is no touch screen on the E4, so the procedures that use touch do not apply to the E4.

Some of the features in the Advanced package have been synthesized by your servant and may not exist in the exact implementation in any of F cameras. Those ones I will explain separately.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 25, 2017, 07:49:05 pm
Thank you for the Advanced Enhancement package Bud!!!  :D

Have a great Christmas!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 03:43:59 am
Known limitations:

In the Settings menu the following parameters are read only:

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381815;image)

To adjust these parameters, use the popup menu. To access the popup menu press Up button when in live image mode:

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381817;image)


"Distance" parameter refers to the distance to the object. It slightly affects temperature readings, so for best accuracy set the Distance parameter properly. This parameter can be set in both Settings and Popup menu.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381821;image)


"Alignment Distance" parameter is the MSX alignment distance which affects alignment of the thermal and visual/MSX images, and is equivalent of the same parameter in the Popup menu.
But
In Popup menu the range of settings is 0.3-3m with progressive increment. Whereas in the Settings menu the range is 0.1-1m with 0.1m increment, which allows for closer MSX then in the stock camera, as well as allows for finer adjustment of MSX within first 1m range. For longer MSX distances use the Popup menu.
The finer MSX Alignment distance allows to inspect PCBs in MSX mode closer than with the stock camera.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381823;image)

When using Alignment distance, make sure to actually change and press Select button, because this parameter is displayed individually in each of the menus (Settings or Popup) so it may be confusing, e.g. the Settings menu may say it is 0.1m but the Popup menu says it is 0.6m.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 04:52:30 am
Adjusting Picture-in-Picture (PIP) window:


(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381828;image)

Known limitation: the camera does not store custom PIP size or position. If you exit PIP mode, next time you select PIP mode it will start with the default PIP size and position defined in the PIP preset file in the file system.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 05:17:08 am
Turning the Screening mode on and off:

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381830;image)

When Screening mode is turned off in Main Settings menu, there will be no icon for it displayed.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381839;image)

Only the high end cameras ($20,000-$40,000) have this feature. Now available in E4 with help of your servant  8)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 05:30:45 am
Sport mode:

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381833;image)

It is not known what the Sport mode does. However it was required to unlock the Medical palette. It is possible that this mode may set particular parameters in the thermal sensor, possibly to reduce frame capture time and/or change exposure in order to produce better images of moving objects, but I do not know and was not able to find any information. Searching Flir camera datasheets I could only find one particular camera model that had that mode, and that was a special model for the medical industry. So very specific tests have to be performed to understand if the mode has any specific characteristics or is only a marketing element. Thanks for the Medical palette anyways.

Tip:  If you do not want the Sport mode in the menu, you can turn it off by editing the toolbar-config.xml file. Search for the "sport" word and remove the whole line which has it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 05:41:57 am
External IR Window Compensation mode:

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381837;image)

For use cases information see this post from Fraser:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1333991/#msg1333991 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1333991/#msg1333991)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: anton610 on December 26, 2017, 08:11:37 am
Many Thanks Santa Bud!!
  :-+
BR a.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Vipitis on December 26, 2017, 09:01:07 am
I am getting really jealous wit all the features.

Too bad that the flir firmware won't do on Android - but in theory it should be possible to build all of those features into a custom Android app for flir ONE/ Cat S60
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on December 26, 2017, 02:51:38 pm
Bud, I have been trying to contact Thermal Experts to inquire about their camera, with your new update package, I just ordered the New E4 with Wifi, I am pretty excited.


Once I get home I will send you a donation because I appreciate people spending their valuable time helping others.

Can't wait to get home from the Holidays and use this in the lab and shop
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 26, 2017, 06:31:58 pm
Bud, really awesome stuff!!

So happy with the parameters popup window!  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 07:14:27 pm
Time Lapse mode.
Set a number of shots you want and the camera will take them separated by the specified time interval. Minimum interval  is 15 sec . Images are saved as separate files with the usual naming convention.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381928;image)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 07:31:59 pm
Image Editing features available in two flavours:

1. Edit in the Archive
Edit measurements:  Select an image in the Archive and select Edit. You can then change all usual parameters as in Live view and more. You can add more measurement tools such as Spots, Boxes, Circles, Lines and Deltas. You can move and resize them, add and delete them as you wish. As well as you can change the visual mode (Thermal/MSX, PIP etc), change palettes and temperature scale mode (Auto/Manual). In the sample image provided below I added  moved the Spot, added a Line, a Circle and a Box (which I also resized). The Line tool (the dashed line in the image center) produces a curve that shows thermal gradient along the Line, which is a white solid line at the image bottom.
The black background in the Edit mode is because the screen capture tool that I used did not show the image, only the tools. When you will use this feature you will actually be seeing the actual image as the background.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381931;image)

Adding a Sketch: Select an image in the Archive and select "Add Sketch". This mode exists in Flir touch cameras and was made for touch, so I had to selectively remove some features and only leave the ones that can be used with the keypad. First select the Pen color, then you can add Left and Right Arrows and Circles. You can move them to the desired location on the image. Same as in Tools Edit mode, you will be seeing the actual image as the background, so it will be easy to position the Sketch tools. The resulting sample image after saving the changes is shown in the right bottom in the following screenshot series:

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381933;image)


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 07:42:37 pm
Image Editing features (continued):

2. Edit in Preview mode. That is, when you enable the Preview mode in the Main Menu, when you take a picture - before it saved you will be presented with Preview of that picture which you can edit and then save or discard. This may be a useful feature when you need to take a picture fast and do not have time to set parameters and/or tools before taking the picture. You can then have time to change them in Preview mode. So first enable the mode in the Main Settings menu, if you want to use it:

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381936;image)

You can then change Tools, Palettes, view mode and measurement parameters and save the edited picture. The screenshot series below shows some of the editing features available in Preview mode. My video capture tool did not display the object picture when editing, just the tools. Hence the blank background. When you will be using Preview editing, you will be seeing the object picture as the background.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=381938;image)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2017, 07:52:57 pm
Image Editing features (continued):

All these editing bits are saved as a separate overlay with the image. That is, you can always go back to the Archive and edit them again or remove them altogether.

So as you can see, the Liberated E4 Advanced features can get very overwhelming fast. Simply too many of them. Good or not - you decide for yourself. My task was to make it available.
I will probably stop at this point and let you guys digest what may have been the greatest liberation of E4 since sliced bread. It is not known if the manufacturer will bump up the protection in the next or following FW release for E4, so this may be your last chance to get one. Have fun  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Zs8192 on December 26, 2017, 08:10:28 pm
Thanks Bud! It was a great work! :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: anton610 on December 26, 2017, 08:29:26 pm
Great work!! Thanks a lot!! :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 27, 2017, 01:34:14 am
Bud, your work on this hack amazing..

Best Christmas present yet!  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on December 28, 2017, 07:41:58 pm
Thanks again Bud, did test the E4++ little more and i love it  :-+
Did check Backupfiles and the medical.pal is there from begining on no-wifi hw2.0 fw3.9.0.
Did read that its need sport mode to get medical pal, and the lines are in tool-conf.xml.

Woud like to ask squawk or any non-wifi owner if they also missing:
Sport mode
Medical palette
Screening mode
Window compensation
Sketch mode


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 28, 2017, 08:10:53 pm
Bud, just wanted to let you know it works like a charm!  :D

One thing that got me curious though.. on one of your screenshots of "Image Mode", you have a "video" symbol.
Also, in the settings, it asks how you want video compression (mpeg or radiometric).
Did you manage to get video working?
And if so, will you release it?  8)

@ MRubert: yes, I did get everything to work, but I did have to turn "Screening Mode" to ON in the settings menu.
After that, also Sport mode was visible. Not sure what the relation is, but one seemed to facilitate the other.
Just to be sure, Sketch mode only works when viewing back photo's and selecting to edit them. I do have it there.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: slopecarver on December 28, 2017, 08:18:30 pm
Without going back an reading 17 pages (I went back a few pages) can I go out and buy one off the shelf (amazon etc) and unlock it? I was aware of the hackability and then difficulty with non-wifi versions but I couldn't afford even the base camera then. Have hacks been released for all firmware versions of the E4 and E4 wifi to date? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Zs8192 on December 28, 2017, 08:38:35 pm
There are some bugs in toolbar-config.xml.

There is no way to mix these entries:
      <ToolBar name="imageMode_.....
      <ToolBar name="measure_global_....

Try on image edit mode. Navigate in menu and the device will be freeze.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on December 28, 2017, 08:47:07 pm
Glad to se that its working. :)
Did read Buds post #392 how to enable screening in menu, but screening is not in the menu at all.
Now i know its rollbacktime.
 Is the wifi icon in the picture a hint ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on December 28, 2017, 09:08:49 pm
It do freeze for me to in that mode, i assume its no problem to delete it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on December 29, 2017, 12:45:00 am
Looks like my router should be OK since Bud's has a similar signature!   :-+

Thanks again Bud for all your help! 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 29, 2017, 02:12:41 am
Bud, just wanted to let you know it works like a charm!  :D

Thanks for the feedback !  :)

Quote
One thing that got me curious though.. on one of your screenshots of "Image Mode", you have a "video" symbol.
Also, in the settings, it asks how you want video compression (mpeg or radiometric).
Did you manage to get video working?

Sadly no, I could not get it working and the screenshot was from the time I was playing with it.
As to the setting in the Main Settings menu, I left it because was not sure if that may affect the way video may be transferred via USB or RTP, though at this time I could not get RTP (real time video over TCP) working. Also, I had some ideas for taking short video clips from the menu for Super Resolution processing purpose. But I have not gotten there yet.

Quote
...I did have to turn "Screening Mode" to ON in the settings menu.
After that, also Sport mode was visible. Not sure what the relation is, but one seemed to facilitate the other.

Hmm, this is interesting, never seen or noticed that. Not sure what to say.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 29, 2017, 02:17:03 am
It do freeze for me to in that mode, i assume its no problem to delete it.

Welcome to the wonderful world of tinkering with the liberated E4  :-+    Feel free to spend all of your free time playing with toolbar-config and design_ui.xml for the next week or two  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 29, 2017, 02:20:40 am
Without going back an reading 17 pages (I went back a few pages) can I go out and buy one off the shelf (amazon etc) and unlock it? I was aware of the hackability and then difficulty with non-wifi versions but I couldn't afford even the base camera then. Have hacks been released for all firmware versions of the E4 and E4 wifi to date? Thanks in advance!

Seems you have not read any of the posted pages, otherwise you would see this:

Advanced update package for E4 2.0L WiFi fw v3.9.0

This thread only has update for the above combination, but it's been reported that also works for 2.0L non-WiFi model
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 29, 2017, 12:08:26 pm
Looks like my router should be OK since Bud's has a similar signature!   :-+

Thanks again Bud for all your help!

LOL..  ;D

I see you're using the "three-point" preset I adjusted.  :)
I've been fiddling around with this preset to see if I could make it show the delta T value between the max and min measurements.
But I have not succeeded.. The only thing I managed to get is the delta T between the spot and max temp.

So, question to the smarter brains in this forum:
Maybe somebody knows how to get the delta T between minimum and maximum measured temperatures to show below, just like "preset_deltaSpot.rsc" and the "preset_deltaTemp.rsc" does?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 29, 2017, 12:15:50 pm

Sadly no, I could not get it working and the screenshot was from the time I was playing with it.
As to the setting in the Main Settings menu, I left it because was not sure if that may affect the way video may be transferred via USB or RTP, though at this time I could not get RTP (real time video over TCP) working. Also, I had some ideas for taking short video clips from the menu for Super Resolution processing purpose. But I have not gotten there yet.


Ah, so that's why the icon was there..  ;)

It would be an overly awesome feature to have, but maybe the model (despite your kick-@ss skill in hacking) would be hardware limited in this case..
I figure video mode would require the necessary processing power for it to work.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on December 29, 2017, 04:54:45 pm
Just a heads up, perhaps coincidence or FLIR Is monitoring this page but the wifi version is on a national backorder until the 16th of January
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 29, 2017, 06:52:38 pm
FLIR do monitor this forum and the upgrade related threads  ;)

Whether they would resort to ceasing supply of the E4 is another matter. I very much doubt they would take such action as they have not done so previously. The hacking of the camera is not popular with FLIR, but I understand they are not losing any sleep over it  ;D

E4 sales since the cameras release have been AMAZING !

Fraser   
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 29, 2017, 06:58:10 pm
To be honest, I think the release of this 'hack' may even boost E4 (WiFi) sales more, for a people who otherwise may not buy it..

And FLIR can look the other way and gladly accept this boost..

win-win, right?  :D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on December 29, 2017, 07:21:16 pm
To be honest, I think the release of this 'hack' may even boost E4 (WiFi) sales more, for a people who otherwise may not buy it..

And FLIR can look the other way and gladly accept this boost..

win-win, right?  :D

Well.. If it costs them the same to manufacture the E4 as it would the E8, and not having to support/honor the voided warranty on the liberated E4, they would be very smart to sit back and collect the profit. 
Actually, what they really should do is send a bonus check to Bud for the boost in WiFi E4 sales!    :-+ :-+   :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 29, 2017, 08:18:00 pm
I personally do not think this caused any material change to the manufacturer. Since publising the Basic package it was downloaded only 250 times by now. Some people probably did it out of curiosity, so i think it may have been less than 200 units updated, which is nothing on the big scale of things.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 29, 2017, 08:22:33 pm
Just a heads up, perhaps coincidence or FLIR Is monitoring this page but the wifi version is on a national backorder until the 16th of January

I am pretty sure it is going to be a new firmware version.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on December 29, 2017, 08:30:27 pm
Well.. If it costs them the same to manufacture the E4 as it would the E8, and not having to support/honor the voided warranty on the liberated E4, they would be very smart to sit back and collect the profit. 
Actually, what they really should do is send a bonus check to Bud for the boost in WiFi E4 sales!    :-+ :-+   :-+

LOL.. I'm sure that if they're watching and reading that message, they'll be rofl..  ;D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on December 30, 2017, 04:57:56 am
Yeah, I tried to get one and am holding my breath I won't get like a 4.0 firmware.

It's true though, if not for the availability of the hack, I'd probably get the thermapp or thermal experts
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 30, 2017, 07:08:36 am
Oh-oh, unexpectedly the thread has caused some damage to them with your decision :D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xavier64 on December 31, 2017, 12:14:32 pm
I can confirm  BUD method is working on Flir E4 HW2.0 SW 3.9.0 WIFI and non WIFI.

Thanks Bud, for this hard work!

You are doing us all a very big favour...


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on December 31, 2017, 10:22:29 pm
Just saying that dont take my mistake seriusly, i was enjoying a bottle of "captain morgan" in the liberation time and i am noob in computer compare to Bud.
Next year i will spend some more time on it.  :)
Definitley recommend to use the QR code or adress for support.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on January 01, 2018, 07:57:15 pm
Fantastic new year !
If anyone gets semi advance uppdate with this symtoms on Reply #406,
The FTP was lying " files are copy with succes "
 Basic conf.cfc was still there.
All is good now  ^-^
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on January 02, 2018, 04:39:30 am
If anyone is looking for a soft case for the Ex series, this is the cheapest I've found it.

Lowes item #701076   https://www.lowes.com/pd/FLIR-Digital-Test-Set-Meter/999986806 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/FLIR-Digital-Test-Set-Meter/999986806)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on January 02, 2018, 08:16:38 pm
In US only delivery,, price, you save 8$  :palm:
Is it wrong to buy flir original accessory ? Definitley not.
We do have a very nice tool now, thanks to Bud.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on January 02, 2018, 08:31:58 pm
In US only delivery,, price, you save 8$  :palm:
Is it wrong to buy flir original accessory ? Definitley not.
We do have a very nice tool now, thanks to Bud.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.  As far as I know this IS Flir original accessory.
$8 and no shipping if picking up in store comes out to almost 25% savings. 
Not my fault that you're not in US!   8)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 02, 2018, 09:08:49 pm
Just like many other things, Lowes Canada does not carry it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DanArBraz on January 03, 2018, 05:49:36 pm
Just wanted to thank you for this mod.
Waiting for my E4 non-wifi model.
Thank you for your work
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Xenawise on January 05, 2018, 07:47:50 am
First off, thanks to Bud and all the folks that continue to keep this E4 camera an awesome deal for us newbies to IR scanning.

I recently purchased a lightly used E4 that was calibrated in Nov 2015 and it is 1.2L hardware and 2.8.0 firmware. Camera obviously has not been hacked.

I need to back up the camera before I do anything, of course.

I have seen a few successes with folks going from 2.8 to 2.11 and applying the 2.11 reshack and menu hacks.

I hooked up the camera to Flir Tools 6.4 (latest version as of Jan '18) and it says it can update the firmware in the camera to 3.12. Obviously don't want to do that right now - 3.12 is not yet hackable. Was not really sure the 1.2L hardware could accept the 3.x firmware but apparently they can if Flir Tools wants to upgrade my camera to it.

Was thinking of upgrading from 2.8 to 3.9 and using the reshack and menu hacks for 3.9. This would get the camera up to the most recent hackable firmware (which I would prefer).

Is this the way to go or should I just upgrade from 2.8 to 2.11 and call it a day? Or perhaps even go from 2.8 to 2.3 (would rather not "downgrade" the firmware as there is some more risk there)?

I have done quite a bunch or reading in both this and the teardown thread but questions like these are not easy to find the answer for. Especially for 2.8 (although it seems the prevailing opinion is to downgrade to 2.3 and hack). Would be nice to have a chart (wishful thinking) with the camera's original firmware and the best hackable solution listed.

Thanks in advance for any guidance/suggestions on my question.

Xenawise
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on January 05, 2018, 08:06:45 am
First off, thanks to Bud and all the folks that continue to keep this E4 camera an awesome deal for us newbies to IR scanning.

I recently purchased a lightly used E4 that was calibrated in Nov 2015 and it is 1.2L hardware and 2.8.0 firmware. Camera obviously has not been hacked.

I need to back up the camera before I do anything, of course.

I have seen a few successes with folks going from 2.8 to 2.11 and applying the 2.11 reshack and menu hacks.

I hooked up the camera to Flir Tools 6.4 (latest version as of Jan '18) and it says it can update the firmware in the camera to 3.12. Obviously don't want to do that right now - 3.12 is not yet hackable. Was not really sure the 1.2L hardware could accept the 3.x firmware but apparently they can if Flir Tools wants to upgrade my camera to it.

Was thinking of upgrading from 2.8 to 3.9 and using the reshack and menu hacks for 3.9. This would get the camera up to the most recent hackable firmware (which I would prefer).

Is this the way to go or should I just upgrade from 2.8 to 2.11 and call it a day? Or perhaps even go from 2.8 to 2.3 (would rather not "downgrade" the firmware as there is some more risk there)?

I have done quite a bunch or reading in both this and the teardown thread but questions like these are not easy to find the answer for. Especially for 2.8 (although it seems the prevailing opinion is to downgrade to 2.3 and hack). Would be nice to have a chart (wishful thinking) with the camera's original firmware and the best hackable solution listed.

Thanks in advance for any guidance/suggestions on my question.

Xenawise
Go to 2.11 or 2.3, both should work just fine. I wouldn't mess with 3.9 as you're entering uncharted territory(old hardware vs Bud's hack being done on the new hardware) with no real incentive as the other firmware will get you the same exact thing.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 05, 2018, 10:46:42 am
I agree. Avoid going to 3.9 as Bud crafted his upgrade for a very specific firmware and hardware build. Updating firmware on older versions of the camera does install the firmware but not always in a way that mirrors the later models. There are recorded cases of FLIR upgrading forum members firmware after a repair and the camera firmware configuration being different to that of a camera that left the factory with the same firmware. Any differences could impact upon whether Bud's upgrade works or your camera crashes.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: capt bullshot on January 05, 2018, 11:13:28 am
I agree. Avoid going to 3.9 as Bud crafted his upgrade for a very specific firmware and hardware build. Updating firmware on older versions of the camera does install the firmware but not always in a way that mirrors the later models. There are recorded cases of FLIR upgrading forum members firmware after a repair and the camera firmware configuration being different to that of a camera that left the factory with the same firmware. Any differences could impact upon whether Bud's upgrade works of your camera crashes.

Yes, upgrading from 2.x to 3.9 and then applying the patches might bring you some trouble. I have a non-Wifi E4 that had FW 2.3 installed but new HW - apparently someone tried to downgrade the unit for whatever reason. Buds patches worked after applying the 3.9 FW, but I had to find and remove a redundant file to make the basic liberated menus work. Doing so requires some experience with FTP, file systems, comparison tools, fighting Windows nasty RNDIS ... it's not a newbies job.

If you're willing to get into some trouble, one may try Bud's patches on an old HW model updated to 3.9, but clearly not recommended.

Didn't try out the advanced liberation package yet, but many thanks to Bud for his great work.

BTW: Thanks to Fraser also, for pointing me into the E4 direction in some other thread ...

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 05, 2018, 02:40:49 pm
The FLIR E4 remains arguably the best value for money complete thermal camera solution ever produced...... thanks to the upgrade  ;)  To purchase a new 320 x 240 pixel complete thermal camera that performs very well is still not possible below $1000. The E4 upgrade can change that if owners are willing to effectively 'hack' their camera. An amazing 'payoff' results from the effort needed to do such.

As we all know, the upgrade is only possible due to the efforts of some very clever individuals on this forum. It goes all the way back to the start of this journey when Mike and others discovered that the E4 was likely the same as An E8, with just some configuration difference. I salute all who have made the upgrade of the E4 possible. They have done all E4 owners a great service.  :-+

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: caipiao on January 05, 2018, 04:00:54 pm
Just a heads up, perhaps coincidence or FLIR Is monitoring this page but the wifi version is on a national backorder until the 16th of January

Looks like same for UK just rang a couple of suppliers no stock until late Jan early Feb...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: anton610 on January 05, 2018, 04:05:41 pm
non wifi E4 is in stock at messgeräte chemnitz - shipping to UK 15€
BR a.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 05, 2018, 04:18:17 pm
Radio Spares UK have 112 in stock at £597+vat.

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thermal-imaging-cameras/8481365/ (https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thermal-imaging-cameras/8481365/)

They also have 197 of the E5 for a higher, but not silly price of 797+vat.

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thermal-imaging-cameras/8481369/?origin=PSF_437245%7Calt (https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thermal-imaging-cameras/8481369/?origin=PSF_437245%7Calt)

You do not need a trade account to buy from RS.

Farnell UK have just one E4 available from their Liege warehouse at £634+vat

http://uk.farnell.com/flir/flir-e4/thermal-imager-80-x-60-9hz-msx/dp/2401506 (http://uk.farnell.com/flir/flir-e4/thermal-imager-80-x-60-9hz-msx/dp/2401506)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 05, 2018, 04:28:34 pm
I have dealt with PASS when buying an E4 way back in 2013. They were a very good supplier.

Their site allowed me to add an E4 to my shopping basket so they may have E4 stock at £634+vat

https://www.tester.co.uk/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera (https://www.tester.co.uk/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 05, 2018, 04:39:37 pm
The FLIR UK web shop also showed the E4 models to be in stock and available to buy. No sign of the model being 'on hold' so panic not  ;D

http://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/ex-series/ (http://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/ex-series/)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: caipiao on January 05, 2018, 10:26:41 pm
The FLIR UK web shop also showed the E4 models to be in stock and available to buy. No sign of the model being 'on hold' so panic not  ;D

http://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/ex-series/ (http://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/ex-series/)

Fraser


haha thanks a lot Fraser - although I was referring to E4 w/ wifi model... Thought I'd get a wifi model to play with but no stock. Farnell said oh about 4 weeks earlier today. Some other supplier basically told me the lowest model now is E5 w/ wifi... :-//

Edit: Flir UK does seem to have E4 wifi in stock (almost more expensive than others) so no national shortage! ;D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 06, 2018, 02:53:58 am
Got myself 3D printed at a local shop a 2-part lens holder for close-up PCB work, and a ZnSe 20mm lens. Love the holder design, very easy to install the lens and put the holder on and take it off the camera. The 3D file was downloaded from Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2108075)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on January 06, 2018, 04:37:48 am
Got myself 3D printed at a local shop a 2-part lens holder for close-up PCB work, and a ZnSe 20mm lens. Love the holder design, very easy to install the lens and put the holder on and take it off the camera. The 3D file was downloaded from Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2108075)

That looks pretty good!  What's the diameter of the lens?  Is 20mm optimal for 6" away from PCB?

I printed the lens adjustment tool ( https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:197580 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:197580) ) which works pretty well, 1/3 turn counter-clock wise brought the PCB in pretty sharp at 6". 

I'm curious if the additional lens would provide a sharper picture than adjusting the existing lens.  Would you be able to post a pic of a PCB?  I'll do the same once I get to the shop.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 06, 2018, 05:15:46 am
Manual adjustment of the E4 lens provides a better image than the use of the ZnSe close-up lens. Not everyone wants to mess around with their cameras focus however. I have used ZnSe close-up lenses for many years, long before the FLIR E4 came on the scene. It is a compromise solution that works 'well enough' but it does have its limitations.

1. The cheap Chinese ZnSe lenses on eBay are intended for less demanding CO2 laser cutter use. They are not exactly very high optical quality. HQ versions are also available but cost a little more. The relatively low resolution of a thermal camera allows us to 'get away' with such a lens.

2. The ZnSe close-up lens focal length needs to be chosen to match the needs of the user. I personally use the 100mm FL the most, but other users prefer the 50mm FL. 100mm FL is the greatest distance offered in the cheap lenses due to their intended purpose in laser cutters. Greater focal distance lens are available, but expect to pay significantly more for them (~£80)

3. When using a close-up lens, good focus becomes challenging when hand holding the camera. The reason is the severely reduced depth of field that results from the use of the lens. Tripod mounting the camera using one of the available 3d printable tripod adapters for the E4 will make life easier when observing PCB's.

4. The ZnSe close-up lens solution that many of us own is cheap and effective. The image quality is not as good as that provided by my FLIR and Inframetrics professional close-up lenses, but then those are relatively large lumps of precision Germanium optics and they cost several thousand Dollars each when new !

Hope this helps

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 06, 2018, 05:21:28 am
With regard to the focus tool design. I own all available versions and personally like the design and fit of this tool:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896)

It fits my cameras focus ring indents perfectly.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on January 06, 2018, 05:40:37 am
Thanks Fraser for the detailed explanation.  :-+

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ryanbahr on January 06, 2018, 02:14:05 pm
Hey there Bud,

Thanks for all the hard work. I applied the basic and advanced packages. I may be doing something incorrectly (just got my first FLIR), but I believe I found a bug.

With the advanced package installed, if I select Object Distance from Image mode, whatever value I select seems to be multiplied by 3.33. If I select 0 ft, it is 0 ft, 1 ft = 3 ft, 10 ft = 33 ft, 2000 ft = 6562 ft.

Thank you others for the discussion on lens for PCB work, we hope to use one of these in a grad research lab.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 06, 2018, 02:38:39 pm
Ryanbahr,

You might like to read through the FLIR E4 Useful Information thread that I started some time ago.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/)

Best Wishes

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on January 06, 2018, 02:59:43 pm
With regard to the focus tool design. I own all available versions and personally like the design and fit of this tool:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896)

It fits my cameras focus ring indents perfectly.

Fraser

Is the sizing of this thing in mm or inches?
I don't have a 3D printer and when I send it to Shapeways, it asks if it's in mm, cm or inches.
When I choose inches, it resizes to something that now becomes: X:3.296, Y: 3.158, Z: 3 cm.
Not sure if that is the right size..
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 06, 2018, 04:32:11 pm
With the advanced package installed, if I select Object Distance from Image mode, whatever value I select seems to be multiplied by 3.33. If I select 0 ft, it is 0 ft, 1 ft = 3 ft, 10 ft = 33 ft, 2000 ft = 6562 ft.

The distance seems to be in meters, i am a metric guy and my camera was set up for meters. Not sure what can be done to have automatic units conversion...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: murdoc on January 06, 2018, 05:25:50 pm
Hello, i just upgraded my new E4 non wifi camera (2.0L, 3.9.0)
Amazing change!!
Thank you for your great work, Bud  :clap:

I dont understand to bitcoins, its possible some paypal donation?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: HappyHobbyist on January 06, 2018, 09:32:07 pm
Hello everyone, new member here.

I'm curious if anyone has had any luck or knows if a FLIR E4 Wifi - 2.0L HW (3.12.0 FW) can be upgraded.  In going through the forum it looks like it may be possible to load the 3.9.0 FW Markofq posted.  Then follow Bud's amazingly helpful instructions.

Would appreciate any insight.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrh on January 06, 2018, 09:47:23 pm
Hi All!  Bud - awesome job on this.  It took a little work to figure out the RNDIS and get my FTP going on a Windows 10 machine, but following your steps saved me from paying someone else to do it... and gave me a lot of personal satisfaction!

Thanks for your hard work!  I have the basic install all set up on my E4 2.0L v3.9.0 - and confirmed all is working.

I had a question for the mobile app (FLIR Tools) for the iPad - I now have the ability to try to open up the camera live as a remote viewer, but when I do that, it gives me the message that “video format not supported”.

I am connecting via the share option on the camera directly to the iPad. The other features (capture) work.  Any ideas?  Or is it something that is opened up in the advanced tools?  Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ryanbahr on January 06, 2018, 11:46:56 pm
Hey bud,

Thanks for the meters suggestion. I personally don't mind either unit. I think its a firmware issue, I don't think it is intentional.

What happens is that if I set the object distance, it looks like the firmware internally converts it to meters. The next time you check the value, it seems to be the converted value.

It's hard to explain. I uploaded a video to show you how it acts. Setting the units to meters fixes everything though.

https://streamable.com/l7vuq
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ryanbahr on January 06, 2018, 11:48:09 pm
With regard to the focus tool design. I own all available versions and personally like the design and fit of this tool:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896)

It fits my cameras focus ring indents perfectly.

Fraser

Is the sizing of this thing in mm or inches?
I don't have a 3D printer and when I send it to Shapeways, it asks if it's in mm, cm or inches.
When I choose inches, it resizes to something that now becomes: X:3.296, Y: 3.158, Z: 3 cm.
Not sure if that is the right size..

By default, stl files should be mm units from my experience.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2018, 02:26:43 am
I am connecting via the share option on the camera directly to the iPad. The other features (capture) work.  Any ideas?  Or is it something that is opened up in the advanced tools?

I do not have an iPAD but in general IP streaming via RTP protocol does not seem to work with E4. Video capture (non radiometric) through USB works (I used VirtualDub software on a Windows machine). There is no difference basic vs advanced in this regard.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2018, 02:39:17 am
What's the diameter of the lens?  Is 20mm optimal for 6" away from PCB?
...
I'm curious if the additional lens would provide a sharper picture than adjusting the existing lens.  Would you be able to post a pic of a PCB?  I'll do the same once I get to the shop.

Yes I used a 20mm lens with 3'' (76mm) focal length. Have not fired a board yet to test what image it will produce.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2018, 02:41:43 am
Hello, i just upgraded my new E4 non wifi camera (2.0L, 3.9.0)
Amazing change!!
Thank you for your great work, Bud  :clap:

I dont understand to bitcoins, its possible some paypal donation?

Sadly it is only bitcoin option at this time but thanks anyway for your generosity!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2018, 02:43:03 am
With regard to the focus tool design. I own all available versions and personally like the design and fit of this tool:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896)

This tool is on my next 3D job order list  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DanArBraz on January 07, 2018, 10:51:34 am
It works for me, windows 10, flir e4 2.0 non wifi with 3.9.

Looking after these focus tool!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on January 07, 2018, 02:16:26 pm
This pic of a computer motherbard was taken from 10” away after turning th E4 lens 1/4 turn counter-clockwise.  I believe i could have gotten better focus if I moved the camera slightly closer or farther away.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 07, 2018, 02:26:32 pm
Cabny,

For info, you can focus the Ex series camera lens much closer than 10". The FLIR ETS320 dedicated PCB inspection camera uses the standard Ex series chassis and lens. It is factory set to focus at 70mm +-10mm. The lens appears to be approximately 2mm further out than when the camera is set for infinity focus. FLIR inserted two thin 'O' rings around the lens thread as spacers to hold the focus at the set position. See my ETS320 thread for more detail......

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-ets320-design-comment-and-improvements-by-fraser/msg1348459/#msg1348459 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-ets320-design-comment-and-improvements-by-fraser/msg1348459/#msg1348459)

Adjustment of the lens enables imaging MUCH closer than 70mm. The downside is access. The head of the camera is relatively bulky so a PCB within an equipment can be a challenge for very close imaging. On the bench imaging is far simpler though.

The upgraded 320 x 240 pixel E4 makes a very capable PCB thermal profile imager but a tripod and tripod adapter do help to obtain stable images with excellent focus. The tripod adapters are available on Thingiverse for 3D printing. The advanced menu package that Bud has released also enhances the cameras usefulness for PCB inspection work.

Fraser 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrh on January 07, 2018, 07:49:52 pm
Hey Bud,

Question: is there a way to just increase the resolution but leave everything else the same? I am more looking for the resolution than anything else.

When I got to step 12 and powered on the cam after the common_dll.dll insertion, resolution was upgraded, but it didn’t recognize the memory card until I finished steps 14-17.  Is there a way to stop there?  I’m taking an ITC course shortly and am not sure what they will think of my modded camera... (should I take it back to stock for the course?)

Thanks again! 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 07, 2018, 08:27:27 pm
mrh,

Upgrading your camera is not illegal and ITC are well aware of this upgrade  ;D They will have seem many upgraded cameras. Just do not expect them to endorse the upgrade  ;) The upgrade does not impact upon the cameras calibration either.

Regarding the upgrade of the resolution only, that is your decision but be aware that the upgrade also switches off the dastardly false noise generator and so lowers the NETD of the camera to better than the E8 ! The upgrade also provides the addition of Zoom levels and thus can be useful 'in the field'.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2018, 09:17:06 pm
Question: is there a way to just increase the resolution but leave everything else the same? I am more looking for the resolution than anything else.

You first need to install the DLL, then decrypt your config and change the resolution related lines, set Noise to zero, then re-encrypt the config, upload and cold reboot (with battery removal)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on January 07, 2018, 11:07:32 pm
First picture with factory set focus but from 12cm away (Otherwise you won't be able to see anything at all if any closer)
Second picture from 5cm away and focus turned (using the 3d-printed focus tool) one full turn counter-clockwise.
The large square chip in the middle is only 9mm wide!

This is truly amazing!   :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 07, 2018, 11:21:13 pm
Cabny,

Good isn't it  ;D

If you look at the back of your hand with very close focus you will likely see pours of you skin in contrast to the skin around them  :)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on January 07, 2018, 11:30:06 pm
Cabny,

Good isn't it  ;D

If you look at the back of your hand with very close focus you will likely see pours of you skin in contrast to the skin around them  :)

Fraser

Yes I did notice that!  and hair too!   ;D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Squawk on January 08, 2018, 04:34:16 pm
With regard to the focus tool design. I own all available versions and personally like the design and fit of this tool:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188896)

It fits my cameras focus ring indents perfectly.

Fraser

Is the sizing of this thing in mm or inches?
I don't have a 3D printer and when I send it to Shapeways, it asks if it's in mm, cm or inches.
When I choose inches, it resizes to something that now becomes: X:3.296, Y: 3.158, Z: 3 cm.
Not sure if that is the right size..

By default, stl files should be mm units from my experience.

Thanks!
I'll let you know if you were right..  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on January 08, 2018, 08:38:35 pm
Just got my Flir E4 Wifi in with 3.12 factory firmware installed, looking around for Flir 3.9 firmware, it's been taken down on the website and the links don't work from someone's upload
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: HappyHobbyist on January 09, 2018, 01:18:53 am
Hello theBigK

Here is the file I downloaded from Markofq's link.  https://ufile.io/vil2l (https://ufile.io/vil2l)

I haven't tried it myself yet.  Best of luck.  Let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on January 09, 2018, 06:02:17 am
Thanks so much!! I will attempt the basic upgrade tomorrow, wanted to jump into the advanced but figured I'd wait until I learn all the current menus
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on January 09, 2018, 04:53:21 pm
Hello everyone, new member here.

I'm curious if anyone has had any luck or knows if a FLIR E4 Wifi - 2.0L HW (3.12.0 FW) can be upgraded.  In going through the forum it looks like it may be possible to load the 3.9.0 FW Markofq posted.  Then follow Bud's amazingly helpful instructions.

Would appreciate any insight.

I am too wondering if it's possible to downgrade? I still have a return policy on this one, so not afraid to try to do it just wanted to know how to go about it or just return it and try to find one with lower firmware.


I incorrectly read firmware numbers, I thought mine was 3.9.0 while 3.1.2 was the older one, obviously got that backwards.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 11, 2018, 07:05:55 am
Here is a version of the Basic Package for E4 WiFi 2.0L, fw v3.12.0
I do not have a 3.12.0 device, so this version has not been tested.
YOU TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
=============

Update: Basic Package v3.12.0 is confirmed working.
Update: Advanced Package v3.12.0 is confirmed working.
Update August 2018: New camera version v3.13.0 confirmed working with this v3.12.0 Basic Package. See post here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1733972/#msg1733972 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1733972/#msg1733972)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: unclerunkle on January 11, 2018, 10:11:13 am
Anyone have access to the 3.12.0 update pack (.fif)?  Not sure where we get that from...

Nevermind, found it on their support site to download.
http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.12.0_update_pack.zip (http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/cameradownload/flir_ex_pn639_v3.12.0_update_pack.zip)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tbuck410 on January 14, 2018, 10:27:49 pm
Bud and several others, Thank you so much. :-+
I am not sure if everyone on here realizes this, but these procedures basically turn a Flir E4, $1000, into a E8, $3000....a pretty damn good return on some time and effort. This would not pe possible without all the hard work and time Bud put into this.

Thank you Bud and all others for helping people with this project!!!!!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tbuck410 on January 15, 2018, 12:18:28 am
I noticed that there are still old model and new model E4's still available on Amazon. Both are currently $949. Both the previous E4 1.2L and the current E4 2.0L (mine came with 3.12, but I easily downgraded it to 3.9 as required by the tested and approved method) models) are available.

A question for all of you very experienced users: For those who may be looking at buying one, are there any differences in the performance or specs of either one after it has been modified?

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on January 15, 2018, 06:44:17 pm
hi tbuck, can you help me out with downgrading my unit? Or at least point me to the info of where I could do it?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SteveRosenlund on January 15, 2018, 07:23:56 pm
I just ordered a new E4 from Tequipment and its projected ship date is Feb 13th.  Gonna try this in Feb looks like.   |O
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tbuck410 on January 15, 2018, 09:07:40 pm
BigK,

There is a link to the upgrade/downgrade file in the post immediately following your request for it. The instructions are included in the zip file.

Please understand that people on here will be much more helpful if it looks like you have tried hard to find the answers before you ask on this board. This topic ONLY has 20 pages and if you look you will see that I never posted once until I had success, despite the fact the I DID have issues.

Also I knew what you meant when you asked for help on your downgrade, (because I had seen and read all of your posts) but for your own benefit, you need to be more specific, especially in a post asking for help. The words downgrade can be used to mean several very different things pertaining to this subject.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on January 16, 2018, 01:41:10 am
I didn't take a closer look at the 3.12 files but in my mind that was an unsafe option so I was asking on the procedure to downgrade firmware to 3.9, I could take it from there. I wasn't sure if your procedure was different than Bud's, sorry for not being specific. I was at work and I know many of us are on different time zones so wanted to post and gather all the data before I attempt to void my warranty :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tbuck410 on January 16, 2018, 02:05:55 am
You follow the procedure for downgrading from 3.12 to 3.9 as shown with the 3.9 download. Then you follow Bud's procedure for the Basic and if you want the Advanced upgrades.

Also, please do the full backup before attempting the upgrades and also print out or save the recovery procedure. And don't expect to do this in a short period of time or with distractions...trust me it can be a little tricky.

Good Luck!! :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 16, 2018, 04:13:30 am
Here is another little enhancement which you can do by yourself:

Open the file design_ui.xml in a text editor
FlashBFS/system/ui.d/design_ui.xml

find the string 
Code: [Select]
"toolbarSeparators" value="false"
change "false" to "true"

Reboot the camera.

The menu bar background changes from black to transparent as you use it to change settings/palettes, resembling a computer desktop with icons.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=386921;image)

You can leave it like that if you prefer it that way, or revert the change and reboot.
Have fun !
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: termo8910 on January 16, 2018, 08:42:08 am
Hi everyone, this is my first post in this forum. Big thanks to Bud for sharing files for unlocking the camera. I have a question, after hacking the camera is not connected in the flir tools program. I have to manually download photos using filezilla and later add to filr tools, is it normal? Before the hack, the camera was connected in flir tools.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 16, 2018, 11:40:34 am
Have you returned the camera to its original USB port mode ?

In RNDIS you can use FileZilla etc but it no longer appears to a PC to be a Mass Storage Device.

You need to return the camera to UVC-MSD mode for normal daily use.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: termo8910 on January 16, 2018, 07:16:00 pm
Thanks so much for the tip. After all, it's that simple. Everything works.

Termo
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on January 17, 2018, 08:13:48 am
hi guys, I am on step 9, and my PC crashed, I cannot  get the camera to connect to my home wifi, nor share it's wifi. It was working earlier. I am asking on whether I should be looking at my network settings and trying different routers, or is it because I crashed while in telnet with using stopapp command?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: theBigK on January 17, 2018, 03:11:30 pm
I turned it off over night and it connected to WiFi, after trying to diagnose my connectivity issues for almost two hours. Sometimes take a break, shut things down, and try it again! I have liberated the 3.9 and downgraded the 3.12 thanks everyone for the help. It took a little longer than expected but well worth it, now to learn the new menu and how to use this properly in a PCB application as well as diesel and gas engine application
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 17, 2018, 04:00:56 pm
good to hear that! you did not 'have to' do it via WiFi, USB works a treat and in some cases is the only way when wireless connectivity is lost.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on January 17, 2018, 06:51:53 pm
First of all a BIG thank you very MUCH for Bud

Read for hours and prepared myself well. Laptop with windows 7 32bit and all recomended software installed.
My E4 has hardware 2.0L and software version 3.12.0 and is without wifi.

Followed all the steps Bud described in his upgrade procedure "Liberating FLIR E4 WiFi ver 3.12.0"

Unfortunately I failed in liberating my E4

The line "python cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfg conf.cfc"  gives me an eror: can't overwrite same file name.

So best to do I think is to restore backup and try again from 0.
Maybe someone knows what is wrong in that phyton line.



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 17, 2018, 07:19:30 pm
You perform this step outside of the camera, so not sure why you think you need to restore the backup, you have not changed anything on the camera yet.

make sure there is no other conf. cfc in the folder where you run the command, and that you enter filenames and extensions correctly.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on January 17, 2018, 10:10:02 pm
I fidled around a lot and finaly got a conf.cfg file that I uploaded to the camera.
There is only one conf.cfg file in the folder, it's the conf.cfg file where I added the 9 diggit serial.

Than I start the phyton command and get above mentioned error.

So I clean up the mess I made and try again tomorrow, now I understand the workflow better and know how to start RNDIS
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2018, 03:00:54 am
You may have erroneously typed the same file name extension twice, i.e.

python cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfg conf.cfg"
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: stylius on January 18, 2018, 08:14:56 am
Hello. Today got second FLIR E4 2.0L Software 3.12.0.  It is without wifi.  Few years ago i hack E4 with 2.3 software. But now new version and need some help.
 So resolution hack working good with 3.9 version? yes? Daes anybody can share link with downgrade files?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on January 18, 2018, 11:17:10 am
Hi Bud,

Yes you are right I used twice the file ending CFG instead of CFC and CFG.

So everything went right this time, every stepp worked without any problem.
Camera is working just as before, but unfortunately the resolution stays at 80x60.

But one question about the SUID string, should I use the "xxxxxxxxxx" or xxxxxxxxx way ?
I fired the python command without " " around the SUID
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2018, 04:18:09 pm
it should not have qoute characters around the suid value.

you need to login to the camera and double check if you have replaced the common dll and the config file and that they are in the right folders. Look at the file dates. Also decrypt your original config, strip the serial number and post the content of the config here for us to take a look.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on January 18, 2018, 04:58:28 pm
Hello Bud,

Again I wish to thank you so much !

Problem found: I had to delete first the two existing conf.cfg and conf.cfc on the camera than transfer the freshly generated conf.cfc to the camera.

Also I had to downgrade from 3.12.0 to 3.9.0 and everything works like a  charm, even the advanced pack from you.

Spend almost whole day behind my pc, have square eyes now, but learned realy much in such a short time from you !
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: stylius on January 18, 2018, 05:07:29 pm
So how dongrade 3.1.2 to 3.9.0? Please share good link with files.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on January 18, 2018, 05:53:03 pm
From 3.1.2 to 3.9.0 it's a upgrade.
All the information needed is in this thread, I have not so great skills to explain exactly how.
But reading this thread and the big E4 thread in this same forum does the trick ! !

But basicaly the steps are:
- Install Flir device drivers.
- Download firmware you want. (link in this thread)
- Install flirtools.
- Find in instaled dir FLIRInstallNet.exe
- Install with flirinstallnet the downloaded xxx.fif file.


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: stylius on January 18, 2018, 07:24:17 pm
I dont understand. I buy refurbished devise from https://uk.rs-online.com ?  Maybe somebody can explain?   
I read forum, and wanted hack resolution, but if i good understand by pictures properties my flir olready have 320 resolution? I make photo.  Flir looks like new, photo counter are from first photo. On calibration certificate write model 63901, but on flir stiker write 63900. It is good? My flir have 3.12.0 firmware.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2018, 07:26:55 pm
Looks 80x60 to me.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: stylius on January 18, 2018, 07:31:20 pm
But why prperties write 320x240?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on January 18, 2018, 07:31:30 pm
63901xxxx is the serial number, not the model number. All the units start with 639 however now that the serial numbers have reached over 99999 they added a 0 in front starting off at 639000001 (I might have an extra 0 or 1 in there, but you get the point)...

Looks 80x60 to me as well, noise definitely isn't removed so I'd try again.



Is it saying 320x240 for the digital resolution or the thermal resolution?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2018, 07:36:34 pm
But why prperties write 320x240?

You should press the Archive button on the camera, select the image and view its properties. You do not check thermal image properties from the computer using File Explorer, it won't tell you unless you use specialized software.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: stylius on January 18, 2018, 07:45:56 pm
Yes, I am stupid :) Now checked with flir and show 80x60. Last time i do it two years ago. Lets try hack now :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: stylius on January 18, 2018, 10:31:15 pm
Hack working good with downgrade to 3.9.0 version.  Only 3 spot mode not working. Must show hot, cold and center, now all show same temperature.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2018, 11:11:25 pm
you can copy the other 3 points preset from your 2.3.0 camera, it was just a different preset, do not confuse people saying "not working".
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on January 19, 2018, 09:40:07 am
OK, after I liberated my E4 there are 2 minor points: battery icon is gone and msx-aligment on short distances is off.
Can I do here something ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 19, 2018, 12:55:50 pm
i recall battery icon appears when you invoke the toolbar (press Select button). you can see in the above screenshots there is no battery icon in normal view mode.

not sure what you mean by msx alligment being off. you set distance allignment in the Settings menu in Basic package and either in Settings or in the toolbar in Advanced one. The E4 does not perform automatic aligment.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on January 19, 2018, 02:08:25 pm
I tought battery icon is always vissible, no problem, this way is just better.
I played a bit with distance settings now and that did the trick.
My problem was that the MSX overlay was not exactly over the heat image, this was good vissible with small objects.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gearshredder on January 21, 2018, 11:40:03 am
I had some issues with connecting through ftp in RNDIS mode with windows 10 x64 so I thought I'd share what I did. I downgraded from 3.12.0 to 3.9.0 so far, and already can connect through ftp on wifi with the original flir/3vlig login.

I put it into RNDIS mode. Then using ipconfig, it showed something like INFRARED as the DNS suffix and had 192.168.1.1 as IPv4 address and Default Gateway as 192.168.1.2. It wouldn't connect, so I cycled power on my computer and camera. When reconnecting, the suffix is now blank, so is the ip address and gateway.  So I read to set static IP as 192.168.250.1 then connect with 192.168.250.2. Using other IP addresses will not work. So after figuring that out, it turns out Anonymous login works while the original user/pass of flir/3vlig does not work.

EDIT: Problem though, FLIRvers.rsc does not pop up. I was able to copy the file using Wifi but not RNDIS.
also, I found in the log for flir as username. "331 User name okay, need password."(< it'll say the same for whatever I type) So, is there a different password for RNDIS? I also made sure that FLIRInstallNet shows "Ethernet 2 - 192.168.1.2" in case I had to use it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 21, 2018, 09:38:17 pm
Try connecting using the metod described in Recovery Procedure on page 8.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gearshredder on January 22, 2018, 12:31:35 am
Still no FLIRvers.rsc. Only in Wifi does it work.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 22, 2018, 01:53:27 am
That file is only needed to get your SUID. It is not needed for liberation. You also can read your SUID using the second method, it is all in the readme file in the package.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gearshredder on January 22, 2018, 02:08:41 am
Ah, ok. I'll proceed onto the liberation. Thankyou!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gearshredder on January 22, 2018, 04:52:07 am
Well, it's done. I had to do it twice because either using Powershell instead of command prompt, or two cfc files in the folder caused issues. It almost looked worse than 80x60 at that time. It's amazing afterwords. Thankyou again!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mikhail076 on January 23, 2018, 07:45:12 pm
is E5 3.9.0 liberating in the same way? did somebody try?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: HappyHobbyist on January 26, 2018, 01:51:38 am
Hello Bud,  I finally had a chance to run through the process.  Works a treat.  The difference is incredible.  Thank you for all your hard work and patience with all the questions we mere mortals come up with. -HH
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: blaqdragun on January 26, 2018, 05:50:32 am
Hello everyone,

Does anyone have a version of Flirtools that allows for downgrading a E4 2.0 w/wifi running 3.12 back to 3.9.  I have used the following Firtools versions with no success.  I see my unit in the update section, press CTRL+Shift+Alt, I see the area around the E4 highlighted, I click it and nothing opens ( i assume a file manager dialog opens).  If i press enter while this section is highlighted, Flirtools closes.
5.13.17214.2001
6.4.17317.1002

I also used an older 4.xx version but that could not find my E4.

On a side note, has anyone been able to try out the 3.12 hack that Bud posted a few days back?  Did it work for anyone?

Preemptive thanks to everyone.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on January 26, 2018, 07:15:57 am
3.12 hack works just fine, no need to downgrade to 3.9
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: blaqdragun on January 26, 2018, 08:56:35 am
Thanks Dave. Yes I can confirm the 3.12 update worked perfectly. Super interested in the advanced features for 3.12. Looking forward to Bud's future releases. Thank you Bud and everyone who contributed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 27, 2018, 01:38:10 am
Thanks DaveWB and  blaqdragun. You can go back to page 20 and download the Advanced pack for 3.12.0.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: blaqdragun on January 27, 2018, 04:06:37 am
Darn. I sincerely apologize.  I ran this hack and commented without completely inspecting my unit.

I believe I spoke too soon regarding the basic at least for my install...I assume the shooting menu should include more than the following:

Recording Mode: Only has Single Shot
Thermal Menu (2 Stacked Windows Icon): Is disabled
Measurement: Only has No Measurements and Center Spot
Color Menu: Seems to only have 1 row of the basic palettes namely: Iron, Rainbow, Rainbow High Contrast, White Hot, Black Hot, Arctic, and Lava
Temperature Scale: Only has Auto.

I confirmed the resolution hack using Exifdata.com
MakeFLIR Systems ABModelFLIR E4 WifiExposure Time1/40 (0.025 sec)Focal Length6.5 mmFile Size16 kBFile TypeJPEGMIME Typeimage/jpegImage Width320Image Height240Encoding ProcessBaseline DCT, Huffman codingBits Per Sample8Color Components3X Resolution72Y Resolution72Software3.12.0YCbCr Sub SamplingYCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)YCbCr PositioningCenteredDate and Time (Original)2018:01:26 09:57:39Color SpacesRGBDigital Zoom Ratio1CompressionJPEG (old-style)OrientationHorizontal (normal)

I retraced my steps, but still got the same results. Any ideas? I assume I should not move forward with the Advanced if the menu items for the basic are not appearing, correct?

Edit#1
DaveWB does your menu appear correctly?

Edit#2
Reverified the image resolution using http://exif.regex.info/exif.cgi. (http://exif.regex.info/exif.cgi.)  The extracted image says 80x60.  Rechecked my setup and I overlooked the fact that I am running a Win7 64bit laptop, not a 32bit one.   :palm:

I assume this resolution failure is due to using the 64bit machine to run the python script, correct?  Does anyone have information on running a VM for this liberation?  Again I apologize for the misinformation.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on January 27, 2018, 11:41:49 am
Known rabbithole is that one of the old conf. or common is still there in camera.
One way is to delete first then copy if you are to lazy to use stopapp.
check file date to be shure copy is done in camera.

There is a good easy phython explanation in this thread with picture.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on January 27, 2018, 12:03:15 pm
This is a very nice ad Bud: "toolbarSeparators" value="true"
Better overview. Thanks.

Can 2.0 owners dream about getting higher temerature messurement ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: caipiao on January 27, 2018, 01:57:45 pm


Edit#2
Reverified the image resolution using http://exif.regex.info/exif.cgi. (http://exif.regex.info/exif.cgi.)  The extracted image says 80x60.  Rechecked my setup and I overlooked the fact that I am running a Win7 64bit laptop, not a 32bit one.   :palm:

I assume this resolution failure is due to using the 64bit machine to run the python script, correct?  Does anyone have information on running a VM for this liberation?  Again I apologize for the misinformation.

using Python 32bit on 64bit Windows seems to have worked for me....
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 27, 2018, 02:35:40 pm
Known rabbithole is that one of the old conf. or common is still there in camera.
One way is to delete first then copy if you are to lazy to use stopapp.
check file date to be shure copy is done in camera.

There is a good easy phython explanation in this thread with picture.

yes make sure to delete the original dll and conf, then copy the new ones and double check the timedate stamp on them.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 27, 2018, 02:38:08 pm
@blackdragun: you have classic symptoms of the config not loading. redo your dll and config as said above.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 27, 2018, 02:44:32 pm
Can 2.0 owners dream about getting higher temerature messurement ?
not as i know of.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 27, 2018, 04:50:20 pm
The Ex series do not contain the required additional pixel bias voltage tables or associated calibration files for the other temperature ranges.

The temperature imaging capabilities of the Ex series may be extended using various attenuators placed in front of the lens. A non multi coated UV (Haze) glass photographic filter enables imaging of a gas flame etc. Sadly calibration is not simple though. Other materials can act as attenuators as well. It is a case of experimenting. Try plastics first.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on January 27, 2018, 06:49:05 pm
Hi, new member here. First of, a huge thanks to Bud, Fraser, Mikes, and many others who greatly contributed to the pertaining TIC threads here and leading to the E4 "upgrade for personal learning" liberation, as well as deeper understanding of how TIC and thermography works trough experiments and vulgarisation of the matter.

Just like another member here, I wish I could donate to Bud, but unfortunately doesn't use Bitcoin or any block chain platform. I do have paypal and every other money wiring means tho, so I'll be happy to send some your way Bud if you ever provide another mean of gifting you.

I bought my E4 wifi 2L 3.9.0 in early december 2017, calibration card said sept. 27th 2017. Yesterday I got around to do the full upgrade with the basic and advanced packages as well as the preset_threeSpots mod from Squawk. Then I spent the next 24 hours discovering even more of what's around me, including some deceiving ghost hunting in a huge cemetery at midnight in -18° C (I guess ghosts don't come out when it's that cold ?) and go some gorgeous pictures of trees against the clear sky.

I've read most if not all of the related threads to the E4 on here in the last months and felt confident about the procedure. It did help that I'm computer inclined and know my way around, however I really had trouble like many others regarding the step about the Python command line. I think it would help to provide a bit more detailed insight on how to perform the step for those who aren't familiar with this. I'll explain how I made it work for be in my next post below.

Thanks again to everyone for your time and efforts, it was thrilling to first explore with the base E4, now it's truly amazing to witness the world with a higher resolution and more versatile palettes and measurements options.

Also worth pointing that you can record video and remote control the Flir camera using the free PC-based Flir IR Camera Player (http://www.flir.com/instruments/display/?id=50428 (http://www.flir.com/instruments/display/?id=50428)) from Flir, as I haven't seen any mention of this yet in the "can I record video" discussions here.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on January 27, 2018, 07:47:09 pm
From Bud's Readme file in the 3.9.0 Basic Package :

Quote
...
4. Obtain cfccfg.zip archive:
   https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959)
   and extract cfccfg_V2.py from it.

5. Install Python 2.7 . The script may not work with later Python versions.

6. Open the supplied conf.cfg , scroll down to the very bottom to the line that starts with "# ID " and replace the 9-digit number with your camera serial number.
   Save the file.

7. Encrypt the updated conf.cfg from step 6 with your suid by running this command from command line on your PC with Python:

   python cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfg conf.cfc
                    (where XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is the suid string from step 3)

   This step will produce a new encrypted conf.cfc .Save it to your working folder for transferring to the camera.
...

So after you've copied-pasted the URL of step 4 in your web browser, you'll reach this post :

Just a small update on cfccfg.py for 2.3. It now drops the signature/tail from the .cfg file. You can also make changes to  the .cfg in plain text before converting back to .cfc, the file tail is created with the proper file size info (the signature is set to all 0). Note that you need the "HIRES" patch  first in order to skip the CRC/signature check for this to work.

I tested adding a few lines to the .cfg file (comments, putting back 80x60 resolution...), convert to .cfc and use that on camera. Seems to work fine.

original post:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg594600/#msg594600 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg594600/#msg594600)

The attached cfccfg_V2.zip file is the one you need. Download it and then unzip the folder. Inside the folder, you'll find a cfccfg_V2.py file and you'll have to move or copy it to the Python main folder that was created upon the installation of Python (on my computer the Python installer default path was directly to the main C: drive, but you can specify another path like the Program Files folder). I decided to keep things simple and have the Python folder directly on my C: drive.

After reading on this thread that people where having the same issues with syntax and line1, and Squawk saying something about the .cfg file path that had to be specified, I started trying combinations of everything with the PC command line, the command prompt, the Python command prompt, etc. So here's what to do :

I moved the conf.cfg file of step 6 to my C: drive, then ran the following line from the PC command line that's available in Start Menu/Run.

Quote
python cfccfg_V2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX C:/conf.cfg conf.cfc
I did replace the XXX with my SUID obviously.

Once you click "Ok", nothing seem to happen, but if you look into the Python main folder, you'll see that a new file (conf.cfc) was created ! Simply copy that file back to your working folder where you keep your other files to be transfered (I copied mine into the basic 3.9.0 folder where the conf.cfg file was taken from).

The best way to get it right is simply to copy-paste the command line of step 7 into a new text file along with your SUID and then replace the XXX with your SUID and add the proper path to the conf.cfg file (easiest way is move the .cfg file to your C: drive and add C:/ to the command line).

Hopefully that helps. I've posted screenshots below.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mrubbert on January 27, 2018, 11:35:16 pm
The Ex series do not contain the required additional pixel bias voltage tables or associated calibration files for the other temperature ranges.

The temperature imaging capabilities of the Ex series may be extended using various attenuators placed in front of the lens. A non multi coated UV (Haze) glass photographic filter enables imaging of a gas flame etc. Sadly calibration is not simple though. Other materials can act as attenuators as well. It is a case of experimenting. Try plastics first.

Fraser


That is great  help,
i do not need any exact numbers on higher temperatures. Most offen the interesting is to see the difference.
Plastics i will try :)
I am still learning about this after 100 and 100 and 100... pages.....
Only in one building is so many variabels. One flore heating was crystal clear, other was smear out in cement ofcource and so on.   ( lettit cold down and fire up the heating is one way ).

High heat i was thinking about is automotive catalytic converters. Maybe not that importent, can still messure the o2 values and the backpressure that tells the condition anyway or better way.

I like this tool  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2018, 01:28:02 am
You may pull something together using a attenuator filter as Fraser suggested, and using the External Window Compensation feature in the Advanced pack. That would be interesting to see if with that combination higher temperature can be measured with acceptable accuracy.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2018, 01:31:16 am
I think it would help to provide a bit more detailed insight on how to perform the step for those who aren't familiar with this.

the easiest way is probably just put the cfg in the Python folder and run the command from there. This will eliminate the need to specify paths.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2018, 01:42:46 am
Also worth pointing that you can record video and remote control the Flir camera using the free PC-based Flir IR Camera Player (http://www.flir.com/instruments/display/?id=50428 (http://www.flir.com/instruments/display/?id=50428)) from Flir, as I haven't seen any mention of this yet in the "can I record video" discussions here.

For some reason that player never worked for me thru Ethernet. Also, as far as I remember it does not display radiometric video (i.e. with temperature measuring cursor so you can measure different parts of the image), it is just a color overlay. For true radiometric video streaming we made an effort here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-ex-realtime-raw-radiometric-data-streaming-via-uvc/msg749464/#msg749464) but it was a quite convoluted solution and only available on Linux.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: blaqdragun on January 28, 2018, 02:13:16 am
I restarted from scratch and stopped at the dll step.  Can someone please let me know if the attached image is the full 320x240?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2018, 02:20:26 am
No it is not

Just the DLL step alone does not enable resolution. You must do your config.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: blaqdragun on January 28, 2018, 03:05:29 am
I am not sure the cfc file is created correctly.  The attached file has lost the thermal resolution information and my shooting menu is crippled again. 

I followed the steps correctly. Perhaps my SUID is wrong?  In step 3 you ask to get the SUID by two different means.  Why is that?  We expect them to be the same right? I copied the SUID to the cfg file and encrypted it with the "python cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfg conf.cfc"
script. 

I then delete the old cfc and upload my newly created one.  I apologize if i am missing something obvious.  |O

Edit#1 - I am running Python 2.7.14 (x86 version) on Win7 64bit.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on January 28, 2018, 03:20:12 am
Also worth pointing that you can record video and remote control the Flir camera using the free PC-based Flir IR Camera Player (http://www.flir.com/instruments/display/?id=50428 (http://www.flir.com/instruments/display/?id=50428)) from Flir, as I haven't seen any mention of this yet in the "can I record video" discussions here.

For some reason that player never worked for me thru Ethernet. Also, as far as I remember it does not display radiometric video (i.e. with temperature measuring cursor so you can measure different parts of the image), it is just a color overlay. For true radiometric video streaming we made an effort here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-ex-realtime-raw-radiometric-data-streaming-via-uvc/msg749464/#msg749464) but it was a quite convoluted solution and only available on Linux.

The IR Camera Player software allowed me to control the camera via USB and mirror the camera display to the computer as well as saving still images and recording videos. All adjustments and settings were done using the camera settings, except that you could use the keyboard instead of the camera buttons. That would allow for an easy remote control of the camera (let's say you're logging data from inside a car with the camera mounted outside of said car to avoid sticking your hand and head out of the car since the windshield or windows are blocking the view) and a cheap and easy way to make thermal recordings.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2018, 04:07:43 am
I followed the steps correctly. Perhaps my SUID is wrong?  In step 3 you ask to get the SUID by two different means.  Why is that?  We expect them to be the same right? I copied the SUID to the cfg file and encrypted it with the "python cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfg conf.cfc"
script. 

Does not seem you followed the steps correctly. You do not copy the SUID to the cfg file. You copy the camera serial number to the cfg file - please re-read the instructions. Do not confuse S/N with SUID, they are totally different.
Two different means to read SUID is just that - 2 different means. they give the same SUID.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: blaqdragun on January 28, 2018, 05:13:04 am
Changing my username to moron at the time of this writing. 
Of course, everything worked perfectly as soon as I actually followed the directions Bud meticulously assembled. (Reading is fundamental...) I am the proud new owner of a liberated E4 wifi!

I need to look into a way to compensate Bud for all the time spent on this project and with me personally.  Thank you very much to you (Bud) and everyone who contributed to make this liberation a reality.

Ok no more wasting your time.  Happy thermography-ing!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: caipiao on January 28, 2018, 12:47:49 pm
trying to realign MSX after liberation but can't seem to get the CRC32 computed... |O

I am using the script from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/4375/?action=post;quote=406423;last_msg=1405463 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/4375/?action=post;quote=406423;last_msg=1405463)

and computed on the original calib.rsc (minus the last line) and got a different result vs the one in the last line. Anyone know if they are using a different algo now? seems unlikely but a bit stuck.... :palm:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2018, 01:26:46 pm
What is wrong with adjusting MSX using the menu?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: caipiao on January 28, 2018, 01:47:17 pm
thanks Bud for replying; nothing wrong - I didn't know you could... |O

Just tried though: won't allow me to adjust left and right (or I am missing something else  :()... I attach a misalignment example.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2018, 03:05:15 pm
Horizontal misalignment may be a manufacturing defect. You can roll back the change and if it still there you better ask for a replacement camera or repair under warranty.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: caipiao on January 28, 2018, 05:22:24 pm
is it not just some calibration issue? I have recalculated all the C0 and C1s. Just can't compute the right CRC...

Yes it's still there after rolling back to the 80x60 darkness...  :-//
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on January 28, 2018, 06:01:56 pm
I too experience horizontal misalignment, however it might be due to a hardware limitation, since the misalignment is very significant on a image with important focal subjects despite the MSX adjustment being set to >3m and misalignment happening from anywhere within 1m to +20m. It would be interesting to have a manual realignment of MSX on the horizontal plane too, as well as being able to specify the alignement distance in Flir Tools also.



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: caipiao on January 28, 2018, 06:23:49 pm
hopefully not too limiting! I just got the CRC bits to work - rookie mistake on line break type - so will be checking if can get it to align a bit better by changing the C0 and C1s in the calib file...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on January 29, 2018, 01:08:01 am
I just went trough the procedure of horizontal MSX alignement, I did a rough calibration but I was more concerned about actually being able to tune the X offset rather than achieving perfect alignement right away.


I started by connecting my laptop to the E4 wifi broadcast and then using Putty to connect trough Telnet protocol (192.168.64.1, port 23).


To find out the current xpanVal of the camera, I entered rls .image.fusion.xpanVal

I was returned a value of 15, which I then changed to 10 by entering rset. image.fusion.xpanVal 10


The horizontal offset moved to the left, and was very close to perfect alignement. However the xpanVal gets reset when you take a picture or when the camera auto-calibrate, so it's kind of a pain to find the perfect value in a rush.


I then made a copy of my calib.rsc file from my backup folder and renamed it calib_old.rsc and edited the calib.rsc file to change the C1X value from 15.75798etc to 10. I deleted the last line of the file (# CRC32 2jvh2232etc) and saved the file. I installed 7-zip and with a right click on the recently changed calib.rsc file, choosing the CRC option from the window explorer menu, then CRC32 check and it gave me the new CRC32 for the file. Wrote the CRC down and then open the file and wrote it down at the end (# CRC32 etc). Saved the file and then connected to my E4 wifi again and using WINSPC FTP program, I connected to 192.168.64.1, username flir, password 3vlig trough FTP protocol. I went to the camera FlashFS/System/calib.rsc and made a new copy of it to my computer before replacing it with the new calib.rsc file. Then click disconnect, power down the camera, remove battery and power back up and voila.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on January 29, 2018, 04:19:19 am
This is what it looks like now with the realignment, before hand thermal blending always felt off and awkward, now it's close to perfect.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: drewsaster on January 30, 2018, 07:29:08 am
If there is some way I can send you ethereum for this let me know! I'm hugely grateful for the effort and risk you put forth Bud, you're the reason I just purchased an E4 WiFi today!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: warcow on January 31, 2018, 03:13:37 pm
Trying to get the basic working on my 3.12.0 Flir E4 without wifi. With RNDIS I don't always get a decent ip con the camera. After the common.dll replacement and reset I don't get a ip anymore. (I used to get something like 169.254.18.75 on the camera and once 192.168.02)

Now the ethernet connection doesnt receive anything and the ip I get is 169.0.18.74 and the camera has nothing. (no gateway)

I tried both temp as perm RNDIS methods, at the moment the FLIRInstallNet can't even connect to the camera anymore. (Can't remove RNDIS permanent)


Anybody knows what is going on here? I already tried a hard-reset.

EDIT: reset of my pc helped, maybe I did not close the Telnet connection after doing the stopapp. Got full resolution now, thanks a lot for the effort put into this! :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on February 01, 2018, 07:09:30 am
He takes bitcoin if you look a couple pages back ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Alexx177 on February 18, 2018, 09:37:16 am
Everything went fine with 3.12.0 FlirE4 no Wifi with Buds "basic package". Thanks a lot to all in the blog (Bud!!), very good work, excellent!  :-+
Concerning the "advanced package" I noticed, that the file names of the original camera setup are different from that mentioned in Buds files (they have a "_z3" added at the end of the filename, look at the screenshot). I tried to rename and update, but that leads to "anonymus" FTP work... (no password needed at my camera model!).
Possibly I have a new software version unkown yet?  :-// It was bought some weeks ago, file dates are 31.10.2017 at the mentioned files.

Update:
Thank´s a lot, everything is working well with 3.12.0, advanced and basic mode. Only problem is the connection with Windows10 64bit. I switched to a laptop Windows7 64bit, problems are gone completely.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 18, 2018, 06:29:16 pm
Do not touch the _z3 files, they have to be left there untouched for the camera to boot.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WhiteAndBlue on February 21, 2018, 06:56:50 am
Modded common_dll file from 3.12 update package in case someone need it. (7Zip archive)
Sorry didn't see untill now that BUD already post it some time ago

LE: I have a C2 camera. How can I set below and above temps, I have no extra buttons on camera? Any chance to use the temp bar as a slider, because that box is very tiny?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 21, 2018, 04:25:59 pm
Sorry this thread is for E4. Please open a separate thread for your C2 to avoid confusions.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 22, 2018, 03:07:44 am
Hey Bud, look what I found with Spirit right this moment. This is on my E4 wifi advanced package and spirit down arrow key press to open his custom menu. When I hit back to close his menu, I'm stuck with this screen and the down button nor any other button will dismiss it. Have to reboot the camera, since even after killing Spirit's exe process the down button would work on your popup.

Never seen it before either.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WhiteAndBlue on February 22, 2018, 06:45:05 am
Sorry this thread is for E4. Please open a separate thread for your C2 to avoid confusions.

Yes I know it's for E4. I mentioned my camera for you to understand that I don't have any extra buttons and If it's possible to use temp bar as a slider, didn't ask for someone to do it for me. I'm new to this cameras.

Last request is using your Advanced 3.12 how can I get rid of the startup message and that yellow spot?

Anyway I will stop posting here (in this tread) if I bother.
Thanks to all for contributions.

LE: could someone provide me a full backup of E4 camera (FlashBFS, FlashFS, FlashIFS(no pic inside))? SN could be removed from files, I don't need any SN. Thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 22, 2018, 08:00:05 am
Sorry I have no clue what that yellow spot is...must be specific to C2 camera. This package is for E4, i have no knowledge using it on any other camera.
As I explained from the beginning on page 8 the splash screen is a reminder that no firmware update should be performed, you will have to live with it if you want to use E4 liberation package.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 22, 2018, 08:11:32 am
Hey Bud, look what I found with Spirit right this moment. This is on my E4 wifi advanced package and spirit down arrow key press to open his custom menu. When I hit back to close his menu, I'm stuck with this screen and the down button nor any other button will dismiss it. Have to reboot the camera, since even after killing Spirit's exe process the down button would work

My guess is Spirit's menu steals the focus from this popup that is why you can't close it. You have to work with Spirit to resolve this key press conflict. Better use a non modded camera for your tests.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 22, 2018, 02:51:59 pm
Anyway I will stop posting here (in this tread) if I bother.

There is lots of newbies coming here for information on E4, mixing camera types in one thread may confuse them. Better keep it separate.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 22, 2018, 04:35:27 pm

My guess is Spirit's menu steals the focus from this popup that is why you can't close it. You have to work with Spirit to resolve this key press conflict. Better use a non modded camera for your tests.


What I'm saying is that isn't your startup splash screen as we know it. I still get your splash screen at startup that automatically go away after a few seconds, and I've never seen the one I just show you.

On top of not being able to bring that screen up under normal use of my E4, I can't even dismiss it using the down button after shutting down Spirit's process and having the camera working properly, which seems to point to a remnant from your beta versions that was forgotten in there. Any reason why this popup would still be there while normal operation of the camera would never bring it up ?

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 22, 2018, 04:46:58 pm
As I said, most likely Spirit's application grabs focus and does not retun it to that popup when you shut down Spirit's application. Any key presses are passed to the screen element that has current focus. If the popup loses focus it can't process key press events. You are trying to layer an application on top of other application on top of main application. My recommendation is - test your stuff on a non modded camera to prevent interference.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 22, 2018, 05:17:30 pm
good afternoon . Please explain in more detail the last points of hacking. stuck on them . 9-10 . firmware 3.9.0
------------------------------------------------


9. With Telnet and FTP connected:
   a) In Telnet enter this command:

      stopapp   
   
   b) Using FTP program rename FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll on the camera to common_dll_org.dll

10. Transfer the new common_dll.dll from the working folder to the camera -> FlashBFS\system\

------------------
9. in my case PuTTY does not respond to the stopapp command.  node 192.168.0.2 is available . ping o.k.
although PuTTY and FileZilla see FLIR E4. I have known this program before.
PS . unfortunately google translator confuses me
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on February 22, 2018, 05:23:20 pm
in Cmd type the following: telnet 192.168.0.2 (or whatever your camera ip is)

Telnet has to be enabled on your computer, you can google how to do that
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 22, 2018, 05:33:49 pm
@sata-sata. google "fubar e4" and give it a read.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WhiteAndBlue on February 22, 2018, 05:39:35 pm
Anyway I will stop posting here (in this tread) if I bother.

There is lots of newbies coming here for information on E4, mixing camera types in one thread may confuse them. Better keep it separate.
OK,no problem.
Can you help me please with a full dump from E4, here or on PM. Thanks.
Solved that yellow spot,  I had some other lines on my cfg file. That startup message is from facet.rcc, with other rcc files doesn't show up. I will investigate more.
Code: [Select]
.caps.config.direction entry
.caps.config.direction.sensorAccel entry
.caps.config.direction.sensorAccel.enabled bool true
.caps.config.direction.compass entry
.caps.config.direction.compass.enabled bool true
.caps.config.direction.lcdAccel entry
.caps.config.direction.lcdAccel.enabled bool true
Title: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 22, 2018, 11:28:49 pm
As I said, most likely Spirit's application grabs focus and does not retun it to that popup when you shut down Spirit's application. Any key presses are passed to the screen element that has current focus. If the popup loses focus it can't process key press events. You are trying to layer an application on top of other application on top of main application. My recommendation is - test your stuff on a non modded camera to prevent interference.


I'll say it another way. How can we bring this never seen before splash screen up ? What are the buttons or conditions you've set to prompt this popup ? If you can't bring this popup up during normal operation of the camera, then what's the point of it ? Could it be a forgotten beta popup of yours ? If so, could we remove it since we already get the splash screen at startup ?
Title: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 22, 2018, 11:31:56 pm
OK,no problem.
Can you help me please with a full dump from E4, here or on PM. Thanks.
Solved that yellow spot,  I had some other lines on my cfg file. That startup message is from facet.rcc, with other rcc files doesn't show up. I will investigate more.

See here :


Here's the tree file from my E4 wifi with advanced package upgrade. I blacked out the serial number and SUID with XXX's.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WhiteAndBlue on February 23, 2018, 06:59:58 am
See here :


Here's the tree file from my E4 wifi with advanced package upgrade. I blacked out the serial number and SUID with XXX's.

Thanks but doesn't help me. I want all files from FlashBFS, FlashFS, FlashIFS(no pic inside). Can you help with those?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 23, 2018, 11:56:05 am
I'm sorry again. in the basic instructions for firmware version 3.9.0 under item 9 a the following is written - In Telnet enter this command: stopapp. Putty does not know such a command. are there any mistakes here? can be so more correct - stopapp.bat?

Bud ! - google search "fubar e4" displays on other versions of hacking. where the stopapp command is not mentioned
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WhiteAndBlue on February 23, 2018, 12:06:30 pm
run it twice
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 23, 2018, 12:13:52 pm
 my log. Whether it is possible so to make?

PS. although it really did work the second time. Thank you WhiteAndBlue  :)



here this point is also not clear to me. Please clarify .
9. b) Using FTP program rename FlashBFS \ system \ common_dll.dll on the camera to common_dll_org.dll

I do not understand what to do with the file. rename it or transfer it to the camera ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WhiteAndBlue on February 23, 2018, 01:03:47 pm
here this point is also not clear to me. Please clarify .
9. b) Using FTP program rename FlashBFS \ system \ common_dll.dll on the camera to common_dll_org.dll
I use WinSCP
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 23, 2018, 01:42:20 pm
with the program, I'll figure it out. I do not understand what to do with the file. and what kind of file. rename it or transfer it to the camera? namely under item 9. b) of the instruction.
9. b) Using FTP program rename FlashBFS \ system \ common_dll.dll on the camera to common_dll_org.dll



sorry for the curve translation.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WhiteAndBlue on February 23, 2018, 01:54:52 pm
I'm guessing you should rename it in order to have a backup and to not overwrite the file.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2018, 02:01:23 pm
Rename it on the camera and leave it there. This is a system file and delete does not always work. Renaming always works. You rename it in order to be able to copy the new common_DLL to the camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 23, 2018, 02:11:45 pm
if I understand correctly, then the file common_dll.dll in the Flir e4 file structure needs to be renamed to common_dll_org.dll. and nowhere to carry it. this is done in order to be able to put the modified common_dll.dll file from the computer there. I'm right ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2018, 02:20:51 pm
Yes
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2018, 02:43:49 pm
As I said, most likely Spirit's application grabs focus and does not retun it to that popup when you shut down Spirit's application. Any key presses are passed to the screen element that has current focus. If the popup loses focus it can't process key press events. You are trying to layer an application on top of other application on top of main application. My recommendation is - test your stuff on a non modded camera to prevent interference.


I'll say it another way. How can we bring this never seen before splash screen up ? What are the buttons or conditions you've set to prompt this popup ? If you can't bring this popup up during normal operation of the camera, then what's the point of it ? Could it be a forgotten beta popup of yours ? If so, could we remove it since we already get the splash screen at startup ?

Why is so much concern about something that never shows up in normal operation by your own words. Being a purist is not something that makes sense with E4 , in fact the whole E4 update became possible exactly because the manufacturer left low hanging fruits in the code here and there which were found and used for mod-ing. Take it as a test code or an Easter Egg, there is plenty of time before the Easter - if you won't figure out the buttons combination by then I will tell.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 23, 2018, 04:06:32 pm
As I said, most likely Spirit's application grabs focus and does not retun it to that popup when you shut down Spirit's application. Any key presses are passed to the screen element that has current focus. If the popup loses focus it can't process key press events. You are trying to layer an application on top of other application on top of main application. My recommendation is - test your stuff on a non modded camera to prevent interference.


I'll say it another way. How can we bring this never seen before splash screen up ? What are the buttons or conditions you've set to prompt this popup ? If you can't bring this popup up during normal operation of the camera, then what's the point of it ? Could it be a forgotten beta popup of yours ? If so, could we remove it since we already get the splash screen at startup ?

Why is so much concern about something that never shows up in normal operation by your own words. Being a purist is not something that makes sense with E4 , in fact the whole E4 update became possible exactly because the manufacturer left low hanging fruits in the code here and there which were found and used for mod-ing. Take it as a test code or an Easter Egg, there is plenty of time before the Easter - if you won't figure out the buttons combination by then I will tell.

It's simply because of the few 4 buttons that are "free" as in they do not prompt any command of the E4 while in regular display mode, we need to be able to use them all for the implementation and it's hard to debug when I fall into that loop due to the popup. I'm all for giving you and the community credit for the E4 liberation achievement and hard work, and I don't mind having to deal with popup and splash screen, however I don't expect to have to deal with popup coming out of nowhere and serving no apparent purpose. I'd rather be working with all of you to make this as good as possible, so that's why I'm asking if this popup serve a purpose the way it is right now and if so, if we could move it to the startup or somewhere obvious for the users to actually see it under normal operation. If not, then I'll treat it as a remnant of a beta version and try to delete it or block it since its interfering with further development for no reason. That's why I'm asking you (plus the popup you wrote also say to come here for technical issues).

Thanks

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 23, 2018, 05:32:20 pm
 did not pass the basic hack. The situation is the same as in the 245 message.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/225/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/225/)


While analyzing what might be the reason. backup copies are available.
from the regime of RNDIS I do not go out yet.

non-WiFi model
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2018, 07:18:36 pm
Most likely is the new conf was created incorrectly. Also make sure there is only one .cfc in the camera folder and that you did copy and replaced the old .cfc. All these things happened to people here before.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 23, 2018, 08:20:48 pm
checked. conf.cfc the file in the structure is one. he's new .

Is it right that the files  common_dll.dll  and  common_dll_org.dll  are the same size?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2018, 08:25:05 pm
yes same size.
did you put you camera serial number in the config before encrypting? Not SUID, but S/N .
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 23, 2018, 09:23:08 pm
 

apparently I was wrong - I had to write a serial number (8 digits ) and I wrote down the catalog number (9 digits ).

re-read the topic learned that there are now serial numbers with 9 digits .



6. Open the supplied conf.cfg , scroll down to the very bottom to the line that starts with "# ID " and replace the 9-digit number with your camera serial number.
   Save the file.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2018, 11:02:41 pm
Take a deep breath, read the instructions again, especially step 6.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2018, 11:06:55 pm

It's simply because of the few 4 buttons that are "free" as in they do not prompt any command of the E4 while in regular display mode, we need to be able to use them all for the implementation and it's hard to debug when I fall into that loop due to the popup. I'm all for giving you and the community credit for the E4 liberation achievement and hard work, and I don't mind having to deal with popup and splash screen, however I don't expect to have to deal with popup coming out of nowhere and serving no apparent purpose. I'd rather be working with all of you to make this as good as possible, so that's why I'm asking if this popup serve a purpose the way it is right now and if so, if we could move it to the startup or somewhere obvious for the users to actually see it under normal operation. If not, then I'll treat it as a remnant of a beta version and try to delete it or block it since its interfering with further development for no reason. That's why I'm asking you (plus the popup you wrote also say to come here for technical issues).

It is all yours, feel free to make any updates, but try to keep ebay resellers at a distance, that is - leave the startup splash screen alone.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 24, 2018, 12:54:55 am

It's simply because of the few 4 buttons that are "free" as in they do not prompt any command of the E4 while in regular display mode, we need to be able to use them all for the implementation and it's hard to debug when I fall into that loop due to the popup. I'm all for giving you and the community credit for the E4 liberation achievement and hard work, and I don't mind having to deal with popup and splash screen, however I don't expect to have to deal with popup coming out of nowhere and serving no apparent purpose. I'd rather be working with all of you to make this as good as possible, so that's why I'm asking if this popup serve a purpose the way it is right now and if so, if we could move it to the startup or somewhere obvious for the users to actually see it under normal operation. If not, then I'll treat it as a remnant of a beta version and try to delete it or block it since its interfering with further development for no reason. That's why I'm asking you (plus the popup you wrote also say to come here for technical issues).

It is all yours, feel free to make any updates, but try to keep ebay resellers at a distance, that is - leave the startup splash screen alone.

We got around to avoiding the conflict with the popup for now, idk if it'll surface again in the future but as of now it's not interfering anymore. Startup splash screen totally deserve to be there.

What we are developing is a sort of extra menu that will allow to toggle custom features on/off and use the left/right arrow buttons to adjust a chosen setting instead of always having to reach it trough the dash bar menu. Spirit is doing a great job and I'm testing it on the E4.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sata-sata on February 24, 2018, 05:53:34 am
overwritten the config file with a serial number (8 digits). encrypted and replaced only it in the e4 directory. and everything worked EXCELLENTLY. temperature resolution 320 to 240. :-+

and solve the last stupid question - if I exit the RNDIS mode, the break will remain in place?


ps. Bud , I would like to thank you with a small share. but it is not familiar with the crypto currency. if you have a purse, please send his address PayPal  in a personal message. thanks again .
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Micz on February 24, 2018, 10:59:38 am
Hello, I succesfully did the hack on 3.12 wifi and it works great. I have done it on win 10 64 bit. The only issue is I cant connect to camera via wifi. Camera connecting to the network but I cant connect with Filr tools both on PC and mobile. I am also wondering what is Recording mode with single shot option and how to record video ? I am also willing to say thanks via paypal ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 24, 2018, 04:26:35 pm
I do not use Flir tools and do not know if it can connect to the camera via WiFi in the first place. Yoju can roll the change back to factory configuration and check. The package has nothing to do with networking. The Single Shot option is just that, single picture take when you press the trigger. If you install the Advanced package, there will be more options there.
You can't take videos with E4.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 24, 2018, 05:03:23 pm
and solve the last stupid question - if I exit the RNDIS mode, the break will remain in place

RNDIS mode does not affect the modification.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 27, 2018, 02:50:56 am
Hey Bud, question about the USB mode on the E4 "hidden" menu (if you go to Device settings>Camera information and then hold the right button for a few seconds) the USB mode menu shows several options to choose from UVC, MSD, RNDIS, and several combinations of the above. However on my camera E4 wifi, the selected mode is UVC+MSD and it won't allow me to choose another setting, like RNDIS or RNDIS+UVC+MSD, etc. any idea why ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 27, 2018, 02:55:52 am
Yes, the manufacturer deactivated that menu long time ago. You cant use it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 27, 2018, 02:59:27 am
Yes, the manufacturer deactivated that menu long time ago. You cant use it.

Any way to restore it ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 27, 2018, 05:23:10 am
Not as i know of. Other people tried too. It is not a big deal, once the camera is set up it is not needed to switch between access modes.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on February 27, 2018, 05:30:55 am
I just thought it'd be cool if you could do RNDIS and all the other modes all together simply by plugging the USB without having to run the fif file. Since the camera by wifi connection does the 3 functions right away, why USB wouldn't be able to do it too ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 27, 2018, 01:17:10 pm
Sorry which functions?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tetsusya on February 28, 2018, 01:18:18 am
I've Flir E4 v3.9.0 without Wi-Fi.

I've switched to RNDIS using the http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/) and using the "Set_RNDIS_permament.fif" file.

I've followed the post "Basic update package for E4 2.0L WiFi fw v3.9.0"
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326)
and applied the resolution and menu hack, the hack was apparently working.
But after powering up the Flir E4 I had a problem, the second submenu for choosing the type of images (MSX, camera, thermo, etc...) was disabled and i was stuck with only plain thermographic images.
I tried to revert all change by using the backup but now the Flir E4 initially seems to boot normally but it got stuck in the second half of the booting process when the blue bar is completing.
The blue bar seems to grow very slowly to the right but even after 30 minutes it still here.

I've still ftp access to the Flir E4 device but i don't know what to do  :'(

I've attached the photo of the stuck Flir E4.

I've tried to put back the modified common_dll.dll and conf.cfc but even if i have the resolution hack back the booting still get stuck in the middle :(

About the "Recovery procedure" i should upload all the files or only the ones that I've modified/overwritten?
I have only uploaded the overwrittten files and deleted the added files.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 28, 2018, 08:05:25 am
i was stuck with only plain thermographic images.

This is an indication of the config file not loading. Yoh have to go back and carefully redo the config. You have the same problem as user sata-sata a few posts back.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tetsusya on February 28, 2018, 10:38:05 pm
i was stuck with only plain thermographic images.

This is an indication of the config file not loading. Yoh have to go back and carefully redo the config. You have the same problem as user sata-sata a few posts back.

Preparing the config I had wrongly used the P/N instead of the S/N |O

Now after the "Recovery procedure" I've successfully liberated the Flir E4 using the "Basic update package for E4 2.0L WiFi fw v3.9.0"  ;D

Bud thanks a lot for your hard work and the support given.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on March 01, 2018, 12:54:21 am
Sorry which functions?

Ftp/telnet ip control, mass storage device and video signal
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 01, 2018, 05:11:48 am
It may have to do with USB profiles, I am not a USB expert. However i experimented with each of the modes and ended up with hard bricking the camera, so i recommend not to use anything other than rndis and msd+uvc. That hidden nenu is more of an annoyance than anything useful. All it can be used for is to check what mode the camera is currently in.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on March 01, 2018, 05:14:53 am
Could we get RNDIS+MSD+UVC instead of just MSD+UVC ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 01, 2018, 05:19:57 am
I think that was the one which bricked my camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on March 01, 2018, 06:32:03 am
I see. Thanks.
Title: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SteveRosenlund on March 02, 2018, 02:27:25 pm
Ok, i've gotten through the Basic 3.12 liberation up until point 16 where i'm transferring the remaining files over.  The file ui_control.rsc causes my camera to no longer boot fully.  It gets a hi res image upon boot, but when the progress bar is about 2/3 full, the screen goes blank and not until i remove ui_control will it again boot fully.  Any ideas?

The screen will go from live image with the gelding blue progress bar to black screen with progress bar. The progress bar will make it across although slowly and the shutter will cycle as normal for a while then quit. If I leave it alone for an hour it stays black with a full progress bar.

All the other files load with no issues, it’s just the UI_Control.rsc that causes it to fail to boot. As soon as I remove the UI_control it boots just fine. 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 02, 2018, 04:21:46 pm
It is required for full functionality. If you leave the old one you can only have resolution mod. Extended menu and anything else will not be there. Try removing the battery for a minute before you boot after the change.
Alternatively you can try to downgrade to 3.9.0.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SteveRosenlund on March 02, 2018, 04:31:12 pm
So remove the battery longer than a few seconds?  Ok I can try this. Once you get past getting into RNDIS mode and modding the conf files the rest is easy peasy.


Edit: All is good.  Working fine now.  Is there any way on these to unlock the higher frame rate of the EXX series?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on March 02, 2018, 08:22:26 pm
Is there any way on these to unlock the higher frame rate of the EXX series?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Yes.
Is it available? No.
Do you have to do it yourself? Yes.
Is it easy? Absolutely not.
How? Reverse-engineer the FPGA bitstream. Probably create your own to replace it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sliceofbytes on March 04, 2018, 06:47:57 am
Bud and the others that worked so hard to make this possible, Thank You! I've just finished liberating an E4 Wifi 3.12.0 2.0L camera and everything went off without a hitch. I was able to do the entire process over wifi allowing me to skip the RNDIS steps and dependencies.

My vertical alignment is slightly off between the thermal image and msx. The thermal image being higher then the msx. I've seen some information in the older thread about adjusting this within the calib.rsc. Is this still the recommended method? Should I do this adjustment before applying the advanced or finish liberating then worry about calibration.

Once again thank you very much to Bud and everyone else that have contributed to this.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on March 04, 2018, 02:41:55 pm
You can do the adjustment with the calib.rsc file, works great. I would do the advanced package first so you can use the digital zoom and all the other features (like fine MSX distances) to really help set the proper calibration values.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2018, 02:45:27 pm
You set vertical alignment in menu using Object Distance option.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 05, 2018, 06:10:11 pm
Someone is trying to reach me via PM but i am unable to reply, getting a message the recepient mailbox is full. you have to sort out your PM box problems.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on March 05, 2018, 07:26:28 pm
Someone is trying to reach me via PM but i am unable to reply, getting a message the recepient mailbox is full. you have to sort out your PM box problems.

It's inbox that's full, based on what you just said. Not me btw.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Mogli1476 on March 13, 2018, 03:40:07 pm
Here is a version of the Basic Package for E4 WiFi 2.0L, fw v3.12.0
I do not have a 3.12.0 device, so this version has not been tested.
YOU TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
=============

Update: Advanced Package is now available for testing

Thank Bud for this packages! I'm using the advanced 3.12.0 with my C2 and everything is working perfectly. But after modify my device the autorotation function is gone. Do you know how to reinstall or how to activate this function?
Best regards, Mogli
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 13, 2018, 04:13:18 pm
No i do not know. Try searching design_ui. xml  if it has a autorotate setting.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tedg on March 15, 2018, 01:02:48 am
Bud,

Thanks for the updated files.   I was able to easily get Basic working on the 3.12.0 via wifi.   I also tested Advanced, but that seemed to break most features:  imageModeMenu was inaccessible/greyed out and the additional visuals (e.g. insulation, humidity, etc) were missing.     I was able to revert back to Basic without any trouble.

The one thing I noticed that was different between your 3.9.0 Advanced and 3.12.0 Advanced deployments was that the 3.12.0 lacked an updated facet.rcc.    I wasn't sure this mattered, but thought I would mention it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 15, 2018, 01:10:31 am
There is no updated facet.rcc in advanced package. What you experienced had classic symptoms of config file not loading. Try removing the battery for a minute after you load advanced package. Others reported successful update.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tedg on March 15, 2018, 01:47:34 am
Yeah, just got adv working after trying a second time and doing a few ui mods.
 
Thanks again!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sali on March 18, 2018, 06:54:31 pm
brand new camera, 2.0L, 3.9.0
I followed instructions, everything went fine. Everything works great except temp scale(no manual mode, but i was able to bring lock mode back by editing .xml file).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 19, 2018, 02:47:54 am
So tell us what xml file and what you changed, thus may help others down the road.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sali on March 19, 2018, 07:12:11 am
I simply add one line from old toolbar-config to my camera toolbar-config.xml
In main manu tool bar:
    <ToolBar name="scaleMenu">
      <ToolBar name="scale_auto"/>
      <ToolBar name="scale_scale_manual"/> <----- this line doesn't work for some reason
      <ToolBar name="scale_lock_scale"/>  <----- I add this line and got back lock mode on my camera
    </ToolBar>

 And I also modified measurements menu because other lines seems to be not working
    <ToolBar name="measurementsMenu">
      <ToolBar name="measure_spot_hide"/>
      <ToolBar name="measure_spot_center"/>       
      <ToolBar name="measure_spot_max_box"/>
      <ToolBar name="measure_spot_min_box"/>
      <ToolBar name="measure_delta_s"/>
      <ToolBar name="measure_delta_t"/>
    </ToolBar>

By the way there is working manual scale option in picture edit mode...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 19, 2018, 01:58:00 pm
scale_lock_scale is not the same as manual scale. Also it was removed on purpose because it did not retain the setting and worse - was screwing up Presets Palettes menu. Carefully test your camera to make sure that line does not cause problems.

Quote
because other lines seems to be not working

Again you are not saying what was not working for you. Please learn to give full context to make your posts useful.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sali on March 19, 2018, 03:52:37 pm
Quote
scale_lock_scale is not the same as manual scale.
I didnt say it is the same. I said I add lock mode to my camera menu which had no such mode after hack.

Quote
Also it was removed on purpose because it did not retain the setting and worse - was screwing up Presets Palettes menu. Carefully test your camera to make sure that line does not cause problems.
I see no problem with it so far.. But if you help me with manual mode, I'll appreciate it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 19, 2018, 04:13:34 pm
Not sure where you can look for the manual mode. I'd think there is no reason for it not to work if the firmware  version was the same as dozens  of users had here. You could try to flash 3.12.0 downloaded from Flir web site to eliminate hypotetical possibility of regional subversions of the firmware.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FabLabRUC on March 28, 2018, 01:52:36 pm
Ok, so I ventured out into the dangerous lands of FLIR hacking. Upgraded our 2.0L 3.5.0 camera to 3.9.0 and tried the basic procedure from page 8. I got as far as step 12, but something very unfortunate must have happened because now the camera boots to a point where it says "Application appcore.exe a serious error and must shut down". It's not something I've seen mentioned before and I'm lost. Is there a way to completely restore an installation of the camera system? Can I force an upgrade? Or is the camera completely bricked?  |O
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 28, 2018, 02:41:08 pm
Use the Recovery procedure from page 8 to gain access to the file system, then restore the original files.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FabLabRUC on March 28, 2018, 11:35:42 pm
Thanks. With some tinkering, that did the trick. I got the tweak up and running. Amazing difference. Thanks for your excellent work.

One small issue. I can't seem to get the camera out of RNDIS mode and back to basic USB connection. I've tried to "fif" the camera through the FLIRInstallNet app, but to no avail. It keeps connecting as a network device. Any ideas?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 29, 2018, 01:35:15 pm
Which fif you tried?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FabLabRUC on March 30, 2018, 11:02:52 am
I repeatedly tried the "Permanently remove RNDIS" to no apparent avail, but I guess the real issue was that I didn't cold-boot the camera. After a battery removal the USB was back. Sorry to waste your time. :-)

best
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 31, 2018, 03:08:38 am
 Easter is coming and following my earlier promise here is how to activate a little hidden message:

-switch the camera Image Mode to Digital Camera,
-press and hold the Down key for 6 sec.
 ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rockwell on March 31, 2018, 07:58:45 am
We can do it ! Yes, we can.
Now I have to try every menu setting for 6 sec. !
Happy Eastern.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 13, 2018, 02:06:45 am
No new firmware for six months....   :o
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: David C on April 13, 2018, 02:07:46 am
No new firmware for six months....   :o

What's that about ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 14, 2018, 08:06:48 pm
3.12 was half baked and seemed to be an intermediate firmware version. I was expecting a new logically complete version. Maybe we will see a major rewrite of the security portion of it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on April 14, 2018, 11:22:02 pm
The Ex series is now quite old. I would not be at all surprised to see a new model released soon that runs Linux, like the new Exx series cameras. FLIR will not waste resources on a near end of life product.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Abvelv on April 21, 2018, 11:00:44 am
I have a E4 with 3.12.0. I downloaded the basic 3.9.0 and advanced 3.12.0. I don't see the cfccfg_v2.py (or cfccfg.py) python script in any of the archives. Could someone please point me to where I can find it?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Platonas on May 15, 2018, 10:45:47 am
Quote
I have a E4 with 3.12.0. I downloaded the basic 3.9.0 and advanced 3.12.0. I don't see the cfccfg_v2.py (or cfccfg.py) python script in any of the archives. Could someone please point me to where I can find it?

Hello Abvelv,
I uploaded the file for you.  I don't remember the link I used to download it. I search the Forum but couldn't find anything.

It is not my file, credits belong to the creator who I thank for his work too.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nbrba1brtbfsazt/cfccfg_V2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nbrba1brtbfsazt/cfccfg_V2.rar)

I own the E4 non WiFi HW 2.0L and FW 3.12.0 which I successfully liberated to the Basic at first and then to Advanced package.

I would like to express my Thanks to Bud for his hard work which made this possible. 

Thanks a lot BUD!!!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: AlbertF on May 16, 2018, 04:55:42 am
Hello Eevblog Community

I have read a lot about the upgrade of E4 Camera
I own a E4 2.0 L 3.12.0 with Wifi.
I would like to ask: Is it possible for a person who doesn't have great knowledge in programming to do this upgrade?
I am only interesting in the Resolution upgrade.

Best Regards
Albert
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Platonas on May 22, 2018, 12:42:16 pm
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Hello Eevblog Community

I have read a lot about the upgrade of E4 Camera
I own a E4 2.0 L 3.12.0 with Wifi.
I would like to ask: Is it possible for a person who doesn't have great knowledge in programming to do this upgrade?
I am only interesting in the Resolution upgrade.

Hello AlbertF,
There is no need to know programming at all, you just follow the instructions as given by Bud.
You must have a basic understanding of Telnet and ftp connections.

Have in mind there is no guaranty that you will not brick your camera if you do something wrong. 

Regards
P.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: msquared on May 23, 2018, 05:24:25 am
Just wanted to pass on a quick story and take the opportunity to say...

Thank you, Bud!!!

I recently got my E4 back from Flir repair and found it had firmware 3.12.4 installed.  :scared:

Well upon connecting it to Flir Tools and clicking "upgrade" in the initial pop up window I was prompted to "upgrade" the camera to a newer version. Which just happened to be 3.12.0, the camera auto downgraded itself.  :)

Imagine my surprise and happiness. You can all imagine what happened next.

Thanks again to everyone. Hope this helps if someone runs into a camera with 3.12.4 installed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on June 17, 2018, 04:33:16 am

I have an E6 with sw 3.9 and hw2.0L, I use E4 3.9 file to hack my e6 (I did not notice the prompt ).

After I run the basic cracking process and advanced cracking process, I found that the resolution was not cracked and there was no room function.

So I implemented the recovery program (it‘s sad that I only backed up the FlashFs and FlashBFs folders). First, I restored  the file that modified  by the advanced package. as a result, the thermal image showed a lot of noise and only the outline was visible(no msx). Then I continued to restore file that modified by the basic package , as a results ,i can't see any hot images, only the full screen noise.

Then I downloaded all the files again by ftp , and compared all  files  with the backed up file by binary, I found that only a few files in \FlashFS\system\journal.d folder are different, I tried to use the backup files to recovery , but No improvement. It's so sad.

Immediately afterwards I tried to restore the factory settings and upgrade to version 3.12, but without any effect, I could not see any thermal images and the camera did not respond to the heat source.

I continue to try to downgrade to 3.9, but the downgrade failed, stuck in the boot  logo interface,i backed up all file with 3.12 this time.

After that, I used ftp to overwrite all of the file, and I tried to revert to 3.12 again. Thankfully, I was able to enter the interface normally, but there is still no thermal image.

My E6 is bricked. Someone has suggestions for repair? Is this a system failure or a motherboard failure?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on June 17, 2018, 05:00:43 am
I’m not quite sure as to your solution, but this unit most likely isn’t bricked.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 17, 2018, 06:28:47 am
The sensor calibration files are gone, you're seeing raw fixed-pattern noise. I have no idea how you managed that, but it has to go back to FLIR for repair recalibration.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on June 17, 2018, 08:02:02 am
Thanks for your reply. Can I replace the sensor calibration file with the same device file?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 17, 2018, 08:07:22 am
Only if you made a backup of the original. It's unique for each camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on June 17, 2018, 09:49:47 am
Thanks again, where is the original calibration file? Is calib.rsc? I backed up FlashFs and FlashBFs. The two folders on the device are the same as the files I backed up.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on June 17, 2018, 10:37:07 am
I have the original file in FlashFS and FlashBFS. I think the file is not damaged or gone. The files on the device are the same as the files I backed up.I have no way at all.

FlashFS\system\maps\ds_we_ap_fi_le_LCFMap.fff
FlashFS\system\maps\ds_we_ap_fi_leExFOL7_LCFMap.fff
FlashFS\system\maps\ds250C_we.crs
FlashFS\system\maps\ds250C_we_ap_fi_le_static.gan
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 17, 2018, 10:54:35 am
Try turning it off, removing the battery, and waiting for about an hour. I believe this saved a camera with a similar issue before once.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on June 17, 2018, 10:56:16 am
Only if you made a backup of the original. It's unique for each camera.

After I've covered all the files, the only difference is that after booting, the default_a folder is created. There are inital.rsc and stats.rsc files, and then about five files in journal.d are modified:

Code: [Select]
FlashFS\system\default_a\inital.rsc
FlashFS\system\default_a\stats.rsc

FlashFS\system\journal.d\default.rsc
FlashFS\system\journal.d\default_services.rsc
FlashFS\system\journal.d\journal.rsc
FlashFS\system\journal.d\journal.rsc.old
FlashFS\system\journal.d\default_services.rsc

Do you have an idea? Can you help me look at it? Is it caused by these files? thanks!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on June 17, 2018, 12:55:45 pm
Try turning it off, removing the battery, and waiting for about an hour. I believe this saved a camera with a similar issue before once.

As you said, I removed the battery and waited for about 3 hours. However, it is still full screen noise. The difference is that the displayed temperature range is about 20 degrees Celsius lower than before.

I will try to delete the following file

Code: [Select]
FlashFS \ SYSTEM \ default_a \ inital.rsc
FlashFS \ SYSTEM \ default_a \ stats.rsc

Then turn off the battery and try to wait 1 hour more again.

Do you have any other suggestions?thanks!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 17, 2018, 01:16:14 pm
Lens geometry correction is gone as well. I'm out of suggestions, beyond restoring it to the original and cold booting it. You might have to send it back to FLIR.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on June 17, 2018, 02:07:46 pm
Thanks for your patience!

In order to restore the original state, do I need files other than FlashFs and FlashBFs?

I can only try it myself now. God bless me!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheEPROM9 on June 17, 2018, 04:18:51 pm
Ok, so I ventured out into the dangerous lands of FLIR hacking. Upgraded our 2.0L 3.5.0 camera to 3.9.0 and tried the basic procedure from page 8. I got as far as step 12, but something very unfortunate must have happened because now the camera boots to a point where it says "Application appcore.exe a serious error and must shut down". It's not something I've seen mentioned before and I'm lost. Is there a way to completely restore an installation of the camera system? Can I force an upgrade? Or is the camera completely bricked?  |O

Bloody Windows. Why they did not use Linux I don't know. Win CE has caused me nothing but trobble from the devices I have used it on. Plus its compaterbility is terible with other applications.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on June 17, 2018, 10:55:06 pm
If it had not been Win CE, the people in this and other threads would not have enjoyed their E4s.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: TheEPROM9 on June 18, 2018, 11:48:04 am
If it had not been Win CE, the people in this and other threads would not have enjoyed their E4s.

True, Microsoft does not have a good history when it come to secureity. It is only recently they have pulled their fingers out their asses and actualy address security issues.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: dandin87 on June 29, 2018, 07:23:34 pm
I was having issues with our E4 at work always calibrating or not displaying correctly which would require a reboot. So I updated it yesterday and the cursor and image mode disappeared. Finding this forum made me realize we had the resolution hack (we bought it direct from flir, I do not think it was a refurb or anything but who knows). So I went ahead and used Bud's files to update our E4 1.2 hardware 3.12 Firmware flir. I read most people suggested not doing this. After doing a diff on my conf file and Bud's I found nothing that was specific to 1.2 vs 2.0 hardware. Had no problems and now have a flir that doesn't lag or glitch out and is feature rich. So Bud's files work for 1.2 and 2.0 Hardware. Thanks to everyone in this thread, it was quite a read. I made an account to just to leave my experience since this helped so much.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: nikifena on July 03, 2018, 07:59:50 pm
Dear Bud. Thank you so much for the hack. I hacked my E4 with hardware 2.0L and firmware 3.12 successfully
Thanks again!!!!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: shenns on July 30, 2018, 01:27:44 pm
Thanks so much bud. Made an account just to say that! Sending some ether your way.

I did struggle longer than expected lol,  and I use these tools daily at work and still had some idiot issues.

for newcomers trying this:
Got stuck on the trying to get it into the virtual FTP mode for about 30minutes. FLIRinstall.net was detecting only a "Ethernet IP etc "
Couldn't even connect to it with FTP? Ending using only wifi for all needed steps.

Also Got stuck on the pyton part, remember to put in the absolute path as mentioned earlier in the thread.

Windows 10 64bit
Used WIFI only
3.12.0 HW 2.0
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bartver on August 01, 2018, 01:12:35 pm
Hello Bud,

Received my Flir E4 a few days ago from Reichelt Germany version 2.0L and 3.5.0 firmware

Followed the instructions on page 8, both basic and Advanced, worked as described.
My serialnumber has 8 digits, this confused me a bit because of changing a 9-digit number in the conf.cfg file, but using the 8-digit number did the trick.

Used Windows10 64Bit 1803, no issues oher than after disconnecting/rebooting  the unit, my system didn't connect correctly to the unit in RNDIS mode.
To solve this, open 'Network Sharing Center via setting, and then open ' Change Adapter settings', select the (virtual) Ethernet adapter and right-click Diagnose.
After a while it end with an error that no ip-adres is available, just close the window. Go into Putty/FTP and reconnect, it will work now...

Again, Thanks !!

Bart
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 07, 2018, 09:31:24 pm
Well crap...it looks like my 2.0L with 3.13 did not like the hack.  I'm trying the recovery process and can't even get that to work.  I can connect with the flirinstallnet program and run the set rndis temp fif file. It says

Connected
Installation started...
Camera command usbfn RNDIS
Timeout waiting for camera response
Camera update completed

It never get's an IP that I can find.  Is there another step I'm missing?

EDIT: I'm back in.  I just had to restart my computer after installing the software... :palm:
EDIT2: Ok I put the original common.dll back in place (renamed it) and I'm back in action.  I know the one is this thread is from 3.9.  Do I need to get a more recent version somehow?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 08, 2018, 05:14:44 am
I do not have a 3.13 update package. If you can make a backup copy and post a link, i can take a look when have time.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 08, 2018, 01:45:56 pm
Here is a copy of the backup.  I don't think I missed anything. Thanks for looking into this!

https://www.sendspace.com/file/zysp7y (https://www.sendspace.com/file/zysp7y)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 09, 2018, 03:26:07 am
Thanks for the files. The commondll.dll is fully identical to the one from v3.12.0. You should try the update package for 3.12.0 from post #478.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 09, 2018, 01:51:06 pm
Dear Bud. Thank you so much for the hack. I hacked my E4 with hardware 2.0L and firmware 3.12 successfully

We do not hack, we liberate. Hacking is an act of vandalism, Liberation is a mission!
 :D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 09, 2018, 02:00:57 pm
I didn't really play around with the camera before liberating it.  Is there a place I can confirm that it's 320x240 now other than picture quality?  I didn't see anything in the menu.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on August 09, 2018, 02:16:51 pm
FLIR Tools shows you the true IR resolution in the picture information box. Normal picture viewers state 320 x 240 pixel image size, even before the upgrade due to camera upscaling.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 09, 2018, 02:44:13 pm
Thanks Bud and Fraser.  They must have changed something.  I've redone the cfc twice and uploaded the dll twice now and I'm still stuck at 80x60.  The 3.12 does allow the camera to boot though.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 09, 2018, 02:56:33 pm
Make sure you delete the original dll and conf.cfc from the camera. Just renaming and leaving them there is not enough.

EDIT: you can check if the new config was loaded or not by checking if the camera still has MSX mode. It was seen before by others that the camera loses MSX if the config did not load at boot.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 09, 2018, 03:03:21 pm
That did the trick!  Version 3.13 is officially liberated!  Thanks Bud!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 09, 2018, 03:40:49 pm
Thanks for confirming! Did you load both Basic and Advanced options?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 09, 2018, 04:05:30 pm
I did just the basic options and everything seems to work.  I'm just using this to site check the houses I build, so nothing too fancy.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 09, 2018, 10:25:59 pm
So the indications are the camera manufacturer is not bothered by what is hapenning. Many thanks to them and hopefully this will last for the hext little while and let more people enjoy the technology  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on August 10, 2018, 12:10:38 pm
It was a battle they lost long ago and the resources to prevent the upgrade were assigned for a good while. I suspect it will just be a case of the next generation cameras running Linux and a more secure configuration. FLIR have never told me that they were 'angry' about the upgrade. It revealed a security weakness in their cameras that needed to be considered in future. They did take some action to reduce the ease with which a camera may be upgraded and that appears to be enough to control the 'spread' of such activities and limits it to those brave enough to take the risk.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 10, 2018, 01:35:05 pm
Thanks for the note Fraser. It does make sence to tighten security in next generations and for "specialty" type of markets, in case of cameras getting in wrong hands.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 10, 2018, 03:10:17 pm
I was in the market for a camera, but I was pretty much set on buying a used one to get a better quality that was still in my budget.  If it wasn't for the upgrade, I would never have bought a new flir let alone an E4.  I only found out about this because of the eBay sellers.  I wasn't going to pay someone a $250-350 premium, just to modify and replace some files though. :wtf:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mike1101 on August 10, 2018, 03:55:20 pm
I am new to the forum and am interested in learning about the E4 hack. I have not purchased the camera yet. is there anything to look for when buying an E4 that you plan to hack? is there a link to info to read prior to starting the process?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eclipse84 on August 10, 2018, 08:54:33 pm
I just bought a new one off of Amazon.  It's pretty straightforward.  Just get the upgrade package version that matches your firmware.  Look at the previous page where my posts start for information on the latest firmware.  Just make sure you do a full backup first.  If you download the upgrade package, there are instructions included in there.  Take a look and see if it's something you feel like you can handle.  You don't need to be a computer genius to pull it off.  You just need to be able to handle some pretty basic command line and have a basic understanding of how to navigate a file system.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: samboman on August 16, 2018, 06:24:20 am
Hey y'all

I read this entire thread, all 28 pages, and I have a pretty good grasp of the upgrade process.

The issue is, I have an E6, and I cannot find anything regarding that (except warnings to NOT use this on anything but an E4).

Is there a similar thread for the E6? I haven't been able to find it, and would be very grateful if someone could point me in the right direction (Or maybe I'm just out of luck and the E6 can't be upgraded?)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on August 16, 2018, 01:27:35 pm
I helped a buddy do an E5 and the upgrade process was the same exact as the E4. Keep a backup, esp of your common_dll.dll and conf.cfc and you shouldn’t have any worries.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on August 20, 2018, 08:10:31 am
Hey y'all

I read this entire thread, all 28 pages, and I have a pretty good grasp of the upgrade process.

The issue is, I have an E6, and I cannot find anything regarding that (except warnings to NOT use this on anything but an E4).

Is there a similar thread for the E6? I haven't been able to find it, and would be very grateful if someone could point me in the right direction (Or maybe I'm just out of luck and the E6 can't be upgraded?)

I am upgraded my E6 according to the E4 upgrade method two months ago. Unfortunately, E6 was completely bricked, and the thermal images disappeared. Fortunately, my camera was still under warranty, so I sent it back to FLIR and they repaired it for free. So, please don't do this before the E6 cracking method comes out. :palm:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on August 24, 2018, 08:11:08 pm
Is there a way to add a custom palette? I know overwriting an existing .pal file would work but the thumbnail and label in the toolbar would not match. Which part of the file system is this information stored?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 24, 2018, 09:07:55 pm
It is hard coded in a dll or exe file, cant remember which one, and it may be one of those digitally signed files. Unlikely you can change it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ksilabs on August 24, 2018, 11:22:04 pm
It is in XML menu that is pure text file so you can add whatever you want to it. Unfortunately in it put into applaunch.dat file with a CRC in the latest firmware and applaunch.dat is signed :( For the older versions, without applaunch.sgn (or whatever it is called) you can just copy your whatever.pal file to flashbfs and add a line to XML menu exactly like it is done for all other palettes. Not rocket science whatsoever...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 25, 2018, 01:44:38 am
You have not tried that, have you.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ksilabs on August 25, 2018, 06:59:50 am
No, I haven't yet.

But now I can see, you can only use whatever is in facet_ui_qml.dll. There is more there than included in the menu and toolbar but choice is limited to whatever is there.

It probably could be circumvented with an external Qt resource file but that is not on my radar yet and I'm not a GUI/Qt programmer. I would like to add medical palette but that is very low on my list. The most wanted feature is working service menu and that's what I'm working on.

I'm not a Windows programmer either, have been with numerous Unix flavors for almost entire life.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eKretz on August 25, 2018, 08:39:29 pm
I would like to add a few other palettes also but have found it just as good if not better to just create them outside the camera with post processing on the raw image. Using the raw image with Photoshop you can just create any gradient you want and apply it to the image.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ksilabs on August 25, 2018, 09:16:33 pm
You can still add whatever palette you want. It is just not possible to add it to the toolbar if it is not included in facet_ui_qml.dll.

Just look at flashbfs/system/appcore.d/factory.d/default_params.rsc where it loads iron.pal (or palette.rsc in flashfs/system/appcore.d/factory.d for older firmware.)

It might be also possible to add a different palette to a preset in a newer firmware (look at flashbfs/system/ui.d/presets/*.rsc.) I didn't try it -- lots of other things of higher priority -- but it might work. And if everything else fails it might be possible to just set .image.sysimage.palette.* resource branch with whatever you want using rset.

BTW, flashbfs/system/appcore.d/factory.d/ui_control.rsc reads MULTIPLE Qt external resource files by using "facet_*.rcc" and the same is true for menu design (" design_ui*.xml") that would probably allow adding additional properly named resource/menu design files with user elements.

I might be wrong but I have a strong gut feeling that those settings can be simply added to regular user config files...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 26, 2018, 05:37:23 am
You can safely forget about adding a palette by simple editing a XML file. You can edit it as much as you want but the palette will never appear in the menu. As I said, palette names are hard coded in a dll or exe. Anything that is not hard coded there will not work. Period.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ksilabs on August 26, 2018, 08:00:30 am
This is exactly what I said in my last message. It is not possible to just add it to the menu because menu IDs are not in the facet_ui_qml.dll.

That does not mean it is impossible to load a palette without menu.

It does not also mean it is impossible to hack that DLL to add whatever one wants and also add resources with additional .rcc files. But that is definitely not something regular user can do.

There is also a reason why Flir included those 2 XML files and big .rcc file to their signed applaunch.dat file in 4.13.0 (3 last lines) to prevent changes to those files.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: giovannirat on August 26, 2018, 07:36:57 pm
I own a Flir E4 1.2L (non WIFI model) with SW Release 2.11.0 (original, not hacked)

I read this thread several times, but there are still some questions open:

1) Should I upgrade to SW-Rel. 3.12.0 ? (Flir Tools offers this release...). Are there any significant advantages in comparison to 2.11. ?

2) I did the 2.11.0 update with FLIRInstallNet and the .fif file in the 2.11 update pack (eFLIRinstall didn't work under windows 10). It took nearly two hours to finish. Is there a faster method with an update pack?

3) In Bud's documentation for the update procedure for E4 is still mentioned "DO NOT USE....  OR CAMERAS OTHER THAN E4 2.0L". Is this still valid despite positive feedback about "liberating" a 1.2L camera from members (e.g. dandin87, reply #665) in this thread?


Sorry, if I missed something.

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on August 26, 2018, 10:02:47 pm
If you have Firmware 2.11, I recommend you hack that firmware and do not upgrade the firmware first.

2.11 is far easier to upgrade and manipulate. Later firmware does not offer any bug fixes, just different countermeasure types.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on August 31, 2018, 01:31:48 pm
You can still add whatever palette you want. It is just not possible to add it to the toolbar if it is not included in facet_ui_qml.dll.

Just look at flashbfs/system/appcore.d/factory.d/default_params.rsc where it loads iron.pal (or palette.rsc in flashfs/system/appcore.d/factory.d for older firmware.)

It might be also possible to add a different palette to a preset in a newer firmware (look at flashbfs/system/ui.d/presets/*.rsc.) I didn't try it -- lots of other things of higher priority -- but it might work. And if everything else fails it might be possible to just set .image.sysimage.palette.* resource branch with whatever you want using rset.

BTW, flashbfs/system/appcore.d/factory.d/ui_control.rsc reads MULTIPLE Qt external resource files by using "facet_*.rcc" and the same is true for menu design (" design_ui*.xml") that would probably allow adding additional properly named resource/menu design files with user elements.

I might be wrong but I have a strong gut feeling that those settings can be simply added to regular user config files...

Hmm does anyone know what the available options are in the facet_ui_qml.dll. Even better yet. How do you decompile the facet_ui_qml.dll, what software do you use?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on August 31, 2018, 02:33:32 pm
I was able to make some sense of the dll. I used "Hex Fiend" and found this: (I don't think bw.pal/ color_gray is being used)

bwcold.pal
bwhot.pal
lava.pal
arctic.pal
medical.pal
bw.pal
rainhc.pal
rainbow.pal
iron.pal

ID_HUMIDITYIc_Colorize_IsothermHumidity
ID_HUMIDITY_HEADERID_HUMIDITY_ATMOSPHERIC_TEMP
ID_HUMIDITY_RELATIVE_HUMID_HUMIDITY_RELATIVE_HUM_LIMIT
ID_INTERVALIc_Colorize_IsothermIntervalcolor_iso_interval
ID_BELOW
Ic_Colorize_IsothermBelowcolor_iso_below
ID_ABOVE
Ic_Colorize_IsothermAbove
.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.1color_iso_above
ID_COLOR_BLUE_BELOW
Ic_Colorize_PaletteGrayColdBlue
*color_blue_below
ID_COLOR_RED_ABOVE
Ic_Colorize_PaletteGrayHotRed
*color_red_above
ID_LAVA
Ic_Colorize_PaletteLava
*color_lava
ID_ARCTIC
Ic_Colorize_PaletteArtic
*color_arctic
ID_BLACK_HOT
Ic_Colorize_PaletteGrayHotBlack
*color_gray_hot_black
ID_GRAY
color_gray
ID_WHITE_HOT
Ic_Colorize_PaletteGrayHotWhite
*color_gray_hot_white
ID_MEDICAL
Ic_Colorize_PalettePredator
*color_medical
ID_RAINBOW_HC
Ic_Colorize_PaletteRainbowHighColor
*color_rainbow_hicolor
ID_RAINBOW
Ic_Colorize_PaletteRainbow
*color_rainbow
ID_IRON
Ic_Colorize_PaletteIron
*color_iron
ID_RECORDING_MODE_SPORT
Ic_Options_RecordingModeTimeLapse
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: giovannirat on August 31, 2018, 03:53:21 pm
One more question from my side.

I've upgraded the software to Release 2.11.0.

But I noticed that the temperature display in the upper left corner was different from what I've seen on different web sites.
Is this normal or is there some problem (the camera works flawlessly) on my Flir E4?

Since SW Release 2.1. there is a separation between the temp itself and the temp unit (see pictures).


I want to apply the resolution and menue hack, but I'm not sure, if it's safe.....

Should I reinstall the 2.11.0 SW Release?

Any help appreciated.



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on September 01, 2018, 02:17:19 am
This is no problem with the sw 2.11 of your e4.you don't need  reinstall sw 2.11.

It's very easy to liberate your E4. This is very mature in version 2.11. If you follow the documentation carefully, there is no risk. The thread you are entering now is the e4 wifi version, which is different from your E4 hardware. Please refer to the following link to liberate your E4.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg921880/#msg921880 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg921880/#msg921880)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: forrestc on September 02, 2018, 08:28:04 am
I looked through the thread and couldn't find what I think is the definitive answer to this...

Are the currently shipping Flir E4 Wifi's (aka from Amazon) upgradeable?   (Realizing that things could have changed since the last data point).

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cq-317 on September 03, 2018, 12:05:52 am
The latest version is known to be 3.13 and it can liberated.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 03, 2018, 03:08:55 am
You can create an account on Flir support portal and check the latest published firmware update version.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rocky79 on September 04, 2018, 03:57:18 pm
Hello,

I found an E4 wifi version with firmware version 3.9.0. Is it possible to downgrade it to version 2.11 for the hack?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Simkins on September 09, 2018, 01:37:58 am
Sorry if I’m missing something however I cannot find the instructions for liberating my Flir E4 that’s on its way from Amazon. I recently read through the 30 pages and see that it can be done and also see people referring to a step by step guide however I cannot find the post. Can someone help?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 09, 2018, 01:51:04 am
The link is in the very first post of this topic.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Simkins on September 09, 2018, 01:37:58 pm
Thank you - links don’t open on my mobile devices. I will complete the procedure when I return from vacation / have access to a computer. Donation to follow.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Simkins on September 18, 2018, 01:07:09 am
Hi everyone - moving along with the liberation of my E4 - I'm having an issue with Step 6/7.

I downloaded / extracted the "cfccfg_v2.py" file however when opening in "IDLE" (Python) I cannot see the "# ID" section to add my SUID.

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction - thanks very much.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 18, 2018, 02:55:51 am
I have forgotten some things but isn't SUID entered as a command line argument when you run the script? Not sure what you mean by saying "cannot see #ID.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Simkins on September 18, 2018, 02:09:47 pm
It’s the step right before the command line. Believe I am to open the Phython file and insert my SUID at the bottom where it says “# ID” per the notes file in the download. Sorry if I’m misinterpreting.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 18, 2018, 04:47:36 pm
You do not touch the .py script file. It is some other file you need to edit, read the instructions carefully again. I am not in front of my computer at the moment but i think it is the template configuration file provided in the down.oad that you need to update  with your camera serial number. Also do not confuse SUID with the Serial Number, they are different values. The instructions should say where to get SUID and where to get S/N.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: PRBG on September 19, 2018, 10:39:59 pm
Thank you Bud for the files in #478 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359).
Basic Package works for Flir E4, WiFi 2.0L, firmware v3.13.0.
I have a question - What includes the Advanced Package (from the same Reply) and it is compatible with v3.13.0 as well?

Thank you!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 19, 2018, 10:58:26 pm
Advanced you need to load and try, i cannot remember, it was a year ago, sorry.
I do not have a 3.13.0 device, so i do not know.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: PRBG on September 20, 2018, 09:12:07 pm
Thank you, Bud! I have tried the Advanced package and it works on 3.13.0!
It added the new Medical Palette, Edit Image options and new Measurement settings.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: victorhooi on September 30, 2018, 11:15:56 pm
I recently purchased a Flir E4 WiFi. Model is E4 2.0L and firmware version out of the box was 3.12.0

However - I didn't realise this till later but it came set to 320x240 already. How is that possible?

I performed the steps in the Basic guide, then realised that the resolution actually looked worse. I connected the camera via USB, and looked at the images, and noticed that the resolution was now 80x60 but the old images were 320x240.

So I reverted back the conf.cfc and common_dll.dll file, and rebooted the camera. I left the other files (e.g. palette etc) in place. The camera is now back to 320x240.

However,  I don't have the mode that shows hot/cold/centre spots at the same time - which is something I wanted.

My questions are:

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 01, 2018, 11:09:18 pm
Chances are you did not perform the Basic procedure properly. There were several people in this thread who experienced low res during or after update and it was because of errors or misinterpretation of the instructions. They all got it right in the end as far as we know. Low res and broken menu are the symptoms of such errors because the camera could not load the config file.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: victorhooi on October 02, 2018, 07:09:13 am
Right - but why would the resolution out of the box, before any changes be 320x240?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: eKretz on October 02, 2018, 07:17:11 am
It's not. The photo that it puts out is 320x240 pixels, but the camera is only utilizing an 80x60 portion of the thermal sensor and upscaling that to 320x240.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 02, 2018, 11:52:20 am
You have to check the Thermal resolution using Flir tools, archive button on the camera or programs like Exiftool. Looking at the files in standard File Explorer gives you upscaled image resolution, not Thermal one.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Vipitis on October 02, 2018, 01:02:21 pm
Flir Tools also displays incorrect resolution on Lepton images from like FLIR ONE or CAT S60.
Title: Problems I had and some solutions
Post by: chang1 on October 13, 2018, 10:00:02 pm
First a big thank you to Bud and everyone for getting this project sorted.

Like for many of you, things were not straight forward for me but after a full day I made it. Here is step by step what I did right and wrong and my solutions.

I have a 2018 E4 WIFI 2.0L fw v3.12.0   and used a Windows 7 32bit laptop

1 - Goto page 20 and download the 3 files in Buds post #478.
2 - Read the read me in the basic zip and follow them while referring here if you get stuck.
3 - Download and install the tools listed. Python v2.7 not other versions. I preferred WinSCP to filezilla. The first part of the fubar web page has them except WinSCP.
4 – Ping the camera to get the ip address with cmd ("ping IRCAMxxxx"). Mine was 192.168.0.19. I did this every time before transferring anything to or from the camera to make sure the wifi was working as it was hit and miss due to a weak signal. I had the camera on the normal image display for this and for both FTP transfers and when using putty.
5 – As I was having trouble with WIFI I enabled permenant RNDIS but I don’t think it made any difference as I did not use USB at all. You can check which USB mode you are in with the hidden menu - Device Settings>Camera Information>Then hold menu button down for a few seconds>USB Mode (you cannot change it here though as it has been disabled). I changed it back after I had finished and tested everthing was working.
6 – Make a backup, hard to find out how but this is what I did. Using WinSCP and the camera ip address (192.168.0.19 for me) login to the camera with the FTP login credentials. Set the left hand window to where you want to backup to. Drag across each of the files from the right hand window to copy them. Skip any files that don’t want to copy. Then under session disconnect.
7 – I repeated this with the recovery login credentials user: anonymous pass: NcFTP@ from page 8. This did not copy as many files though.
8 – Copy both backups to a USB memory stick to ensure I could not lose them.
9 – Obtain suid, I used both methods and got the same result, don’t keep quote marks if it is in them.
10 - Obtain cfccfg_V2.py.
11 – Put your serial number in the conf.cfg file from the basic folder and save it using notepad. Pay close attention to the extensions .cfc .cfg in these steps.
12 - Encrypt the file using python and the suid. I had 2 big problems with this. Directing python to the files and which command window to use. I kept getting a syntax error. Use the normal windows cmd. Use CD to change its directory to the Python folder. For me "cd\" to get to the root of C: then "CD python27" put both files in the python directory before running the command line.
13 – Move the newly created conf.cfc from the python folder to where your other files are.
14 – Start up WinSCP and putty.
15 – In putty use the camera ip address and click on telnet then on open.
16 – Enter "stopapp" then enter. Nothing happened for me even if I repeated it. In the end I typed in stopapp instead of pasting it in or using the up arrow and then did it again which worked.
17 – Then I followed the rest of the instructions but tried renaming instead of over writing the files which did not work. As these should already be backed up just over write or delete the files to be replaced.
18 – All working OK so I did the advanced package without a hitch.


A day of torment but well worth it and very satisfying in the end. During my searching for solutions I saw other people had similar problems which were mainly answered by Bud. I hope this information will save him from having to answer a few questions in the future and cut down on a lot of searching through this and other threads by others.


I have since also swapped the 3 spot measuring tool for the one uploaded by CABNY in post #218 on page 9, which I find is much more useful. It is probably the same as the centrehotcoldspot in the basic package. I used notepad to edit mbox settings in the .rsc file to increase the size of the measuring box. the maximum size I could get was height 158, width 214 (pixels), which needed centering with x of 53 and y of 41 (pixels from top left corner).
When I tried to swap the screening tool with deltatemp it did not seem to work but turning screening on in the menu did.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: OrBy on November 02, 2018, 02:00:29 pm
So it's been about a week since I did it but I figured I would post so the info is out there.
I had a HW 1.0 FW 2.3.0 camera with the advanced menu/liberation from the other thread installed on it.
I updated it to FW 3.1.2 and installed Bud's basic and advanced liberation on it from this thread.
I did not use all of the included instructions since it seems like it still relies on the CRC01 on the e8.cfg for it's config.
But after some playing around - it does work and the camera seems snappier as well!

It seems though that I was not able to get it to support the Screening Mode and the things that go along with it - not worried but perhaps it checks the HW version and locks out if it's not 2.0+?

Also Bud - what are you using to unpack and repack the *.rcc files? (Windows or Linux tools?) Always wanted to tear into them but never managed to find anything that works on Windows... Any insight would be nice.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 04, 2018, 05:40:56 am
I am pretty sure the CRC check was patched so it has no effect in the liberated E4 WiFi. The way liberation became possible remains magic  ::)

Screening mode also worked in 2.3.0, not sure why you are not getting it, perhaps because as you said you did not follow all of the instructions ?  :-//
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mario.ti on November 12, 2018, 06:56:28 pm
hi,
i want to do the upgrade to advanced package (i have basic liberation package installed already)
But surpriseley I can't go to RNDIS mode. When i connect camera to usb, without turning it on, after a few second it's disconnecting. Because of that, it also can't be charging that way.
As for now, I checked the power supply plan in my Windows, and disabled USB selective suspend setting. Also, reseted camera by unmount battery. Tryed annother USB ports.
This issue does'n occur with camera on. I can download pictures, etc.

any sugests?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on November 12, 2018, 07:03:28 pm
You can do it with the camera on. After running suid.exe in telnet, run “STOPAPP” and it’ll allow you to upload the common_dll.dll file and everything else.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 15, 2018, 10:51:34 pm
hi,
i want to do the upgrade to advanced package (i have basic liberation package installed already)
But surpriseley I can't go to RNDIS mode. When i connect camera to usb, without turning it on, after a few second it's disconnecting. Because of that, it also can't be charging that way.
As for now, I checked the power supply plan in my Windows, and disabled USB selective suspend setting. Also, reseted camera by unmount battery. Tryed annother USB ports.
This issue does'n occur with camera on. I can download pictures, etc.

any sugests?

Can you charge the camera using the supplied external power adapter?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mario.ti on November 17, 2018, 02:50:10 pm
I use original charger as my basic way to charging it. there's no problem with that.

DaveWB Can you tell me some more. There's no suid.exe must be run, in Bud instruction
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 17, 2018, 04:59:22 pm
Then i'd say your computer usb ports cannot supply enough juce for the battery to start charging. I have seen that on my computer's USB 3.0 ports. The camera gets disconnected or the whole computer may freeze. I disabled the USB 3.0 ports by physically unplugging them from the motherboard, i do not use them anyways, and use USB 2.0 ports. The camera charges fine on USB 2.0 ports. This may be a issue specific to motherboard make/model. Try a different computer or USB 2.0 port.



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: falawkas on November 22, 2018, 10:56:58 pm
Thank you Bud for your help to liberate the Flir E4,  mine is a new E4 with 2.0L and firmware 3.12 i followed your instruction sheet and everything is great up to level 15.  kindly i need your advise before i proceed with the level 16 as I noticed, that the file names of the original camera setup are different from that mentioned in Buds files (they have a "_z3" added at the end of the filename) same case of Alexx177 reply#559,
you replied him in reply#560 "Do not touch the _z3 files, they have to be left there untouched for the camera to boot"
so i have to keep them and transfer Bud's file = both files will be available in the camera folder?
if i stop in level 15 the resolution and the thermal sensitivity are updated?
thank you for your help.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 26, 2018, 04:12:00 am
I did not analyze every step, you should follow the instructions.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: miljume on December 10, 2018, 03:15:26 pm
Hi all,

Just ordered my E4 Wifi and hope for it to be a 2.0L with 3.12.0

Before I go ahead and re-flash it, has anyone succeded in bricking their device?

i.e. how safe is it to perform the hack if you follow all instructions and do a full backup before?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: nhelder on December 17, 2018, 08:44:19 pm
I found this forum too late.  Bought a hacked E4 1.2 (didn't check software) and first thing I figured I'd do is upgrade the software (to 3.12.0).  Now my hacked E4 is a regular E4.  I guess I'm lucky that nothing catastrophic happened. 
Does anyone have advice, comments, warnings about hacking this thing now?  Am I asking for trouble?
Everything seems to be working fine (stock).  Should I downgrade software and then try a hack?
TIA!

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on December 17, 2018, 08:56:02 pm
Upgrading from 1.22 to 3.12 does not pose any issues. Apply the 3.12 upgrades as instructed and you will be fine.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Mat_J on December 17, 2018, 10:35:05 pm
I recently bought a E4 wifi on Kijiji (Canadas's Craigslist)
but upon inspecting it, I see the packaging was swapped and I received a unit with HW1.1L and SW 3.12
I'm not too upset as I only paid $500 CDN for it,
but I'm left wondering if anyone has liberated a 1.1L with SW 3.12 or 3.13?
I see conflicting information in this forum about the 1.2L cameras, has anyone tried a 1.1L? can a 1.1L be treated as a 1.2L?
I see most people who have these earlier versions are keeping their earlier firmware, what would you do in my situation?
Thanks in advanced
Matt
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WeKeys on December 20, 2018, 02:53:36 pm
Hello,

I've just bought a E4 (not Wifi) 2.0L with software 3.13.0  |O
Bud told me to see here for having a Hack for this device.

I have a major problem for following the HOW TO of Bud, i can't access to RNDIS at all.
I go into the USB Mode menu, by default it's on UVC and MSD but i can select anything else (RNDIS, RNDIS with UVC, MSD...) it never confirm.
I click on RNDIS, then the menu get to the one before
When i get back to the USB Mode menu, it's still on UVC and MSD....
video of the issue : https://cloud.werry.ovh/s/5eWCEjMXZaKZSJr (https://cloud.werry.ovh/s/5eWCEjMXZaKZSJr)

What can i do ? Do i need to open the Flir and do a mod on it ?

Thank you
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 20, 2018, 04:08:47 pm
Forget about the mode menu, it is not working. The quickest way to learn about how to switch to RNDIS is perhaps by reading blog written by fubar. Search google for fubar e4. He's got a section on how to enable RNDIS mode. Then come back and do your thing. This thread assumes you know how to switch to RNDIS and back so please do not ask in this thread.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WeKeys on December 20, 2018, 04:12:31 pm
I was just a fool,
I were on his page last night.

So many things to read, you lost your way on the go.

Basically you don't enable RNDIS mode into the USB Menu anymore, you plug the camera, use a software on a 32bits Windows, and taboom RNDIS...
Then i can follow your HOW TO
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: takeo on December 20, 2018, 04:56:19 pm
I have an E4, and when reading the manual online here:

https://www.flir.com/globalassets/imported-assets/document/flir-ex-series-user-manual.pdf (https://www.flir.com/globalassets/imported-assets/document/flir-ex-series-user-manual.pdf)

It mentions on page 17:

The charging time for a fully depleted battery is 2 hours.
• The battery is being charged when the blue LED is flashing.
• The battery is fully charged when the blue LED is continuous.

The Flir supplied battery charger that was included with my package has a blue LED indicator that stays "continuously on."  I never see it flashing when the battery is being charged.

My question:

1) Does your battery charger ever have a flashing blue indicator when charging?
2) Am I reading this section incorrectly (i.e. page 17)?

Thanks.

Note:  Just trying to determine if my unit is defective (battery charger or camera)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 20, 2018, 07:22:08 pm
My external battery charger has the flashing blue LED whilst charging. I did a teardown of the charger on this forum some time ago. The flashing is driven by a 555 timer IC.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 20, 2018, 07:34:01 pm
Mine is just solid blue , not flashing.  But i am not crazy about full charge as i do not use the camera for a prolonged time in a single use, and it is perhaps better to store the device half charged rather than fully charged.

Edit: if you want to monitor charging status you can press Left  and Right joystik buttons when the camera is turned off.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 20, 2018, 11:46:20 pm

@Takeo,

I just remembered,

I found my external charger would not start flashing its blue LED with just one of my batteries and the others worked fine. Cleaning the battery contacts with IPA cured the issue. I suspect the contacts got contaminated or suffered oxidisation if they are not real gold plated. If the temperature sense pin makes a poor contact I suspect it might inhibit the normal charging cycle. I cleaned the charger contacts as well.

Do not use anything abrasive to clean the contacts.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: obliterations on December 21, 2018, 01:39:55 am
A big thanks to Bud and everyone that has contributed to this thread! Just got an e4 20L with v3.13 on it. The liberation worked like a charm so far. The only issue I had was with the Python process. Once I popped conf.cfc and the cfccfg_V2.py into the Python27 directory and then changed to that directory using the command prompt before running step no#7 it worked fine.

I was a little confused about the many mentions of software v3.9 since the current software is 3.13 on the Flir site ...I am assuming v3.9 was for the non wf-fi version? The downgrade from 3.2 to 3.9 comments just added to the confusion. BUT... all the info is there if you look, read and reread.

A few points of interest:

I'm running windows 10. (Seemed early on people were saying you needed older software.)
Just connected over wi-fi on my home network. Didn't need to use USB or to put it in RNDIS mode.
The camera will automatically connect to your wi-fi network when it turned on after you have set that up on the camera. Saving your FTP login info makes getting back in extremely simple.

When telnetting into the camera via wi-fi I was not prompted for login credentials.

About the only thing I really wish the camera had was video recording. I hope if that feature exists somewhere it can eventually be unlocked.


I would like to make a donation to Bud for all the work he has done. Is there a PayPal way to do that? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2018, 02:29:07 am
Thanks obliterations. Did you install both Basic and Advanced packages?

Edit:
Quote
I was a little confused about the many mentions of software v3.9 since the current software is 3.13 on the Flir site ...I am assuming v3.9 was for the non wf-fi version?
This WiFi liberation thread started from v3.9 as can be seen in post #183. It was the first WiFi version liberated.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2018, 04:28:09 am
I would like to make a donation to Bud for all the work he has done. Is there a PayPal way to do that? Thanks in advance!
Thanks obliterations. If I may I would like to donate this donation to the forum owner  8) for providing us with such a great platform for information exchange. Link: http://www.eevblog.com/donations/  (http://www.eevblog.com/donations/)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: WeKeys on December 21, 2018, 01:43:42 pm
Hello,

I successfuly liberate my E4,
I got the great menus, so amazing.

But i'm kind of curious to know if my IRCam is really at 320x240.
I borrow you 2 screenshot, one without hack, one after.
Is it normal that in the view finder i don't have Flir, but on the picture it's back ?

I read the conf.cfg and the resolution is at 320 and 240.

Could you tell me if the Resolution Hack works or no ?

Thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2018, 05:04:48 pm
You should press the Archive button on the camera, select an image and check its properties, look for thermal resolution, it should show 320x240.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2018, 08:59:33 pm
I do not know but I tried to stream to my Android tablet using Flir Mobile Tools and while it generally worked it soon generated an out of memory error on the camera. When you stream to Flir Tools on a desktop that error does not occur.

As to iPad I recall there was an answer from Flir on the support forum something to that extent, if you have an account you can log in to their support site and dig there.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 24, 2018, 03:18:55 am
Today we celebrate One Year anniversary since the Advanced package was published  :D
Gosh, what experience was  it :phew:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mario.ti on December 29, 2018, 01:30:58 pm
is there any way to calibrate normal imaging camera lens? I know it's only 640x480 but i compared pictures before and after hack, and now it's way much poor. They are more blurred.
and second thing. Can it possible to change the camera model, which is seeing in Flir Tools, in the label named something like "informations about imaging" (don't know did I translate it right). And It's seeing also in flir tools reports.

p.s.
Big thanks Bud, for your job  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 29, 2018, 08:55:58 pm
I do not see any way the liberation joby would affect the visual camera. Perhaps you need to set the Object Distance setting properly? It is a fixed focus camera though. I believe people reported problems with the visual camera after they disassembled or dropped the E4, i.e. physical factor was involved.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sinai1987 on January 11, 2019, 08:05:55 pm
good morning guys! I have a big problem ... I have a Flir E8 FW 1.0 and SW 3.12.0 I urgently need work to be able to put the temperature scale in manual mode but it only appears to me automatically ... do you know if there is any way? you would save my life !!!!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: alcs2000au on February 09, 2019, 12:10:58 am
I tried to liberate my E4 v3.13 without wifi. The cfg and dll seem to work fine, as I have the 320 resolution. However, I cant get the new basic menu hack going from v3.12. The new palettes are not visible even though the files are present on the camera, also the video mode is greyed out. Any help would be appreciated. I replaced the files on the camera server times, also tried to restore it all and do it again. Same result.

I also tried to edit the original config file without luck. Interesting is, that when I convert the original cfc to a cfg, it decodes fine but has some weird string at the end, see attachment.

I also tried the original cgc, then it reverts to the old settings, 80x60 and the menu works. If I use the new one, then the resolution 320x240 works, but not the menu / the two screens are greyed out.

Cheers

Update: I found that there was another  ui_control.rst at  "FlashFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d/". I deleted that one, now the additional palettes are visible and in settings the programmable button appeared. I guess first part is working now. However, the two screens are still greyed out.
Update: With the programmable button I can switch between thermal and digital camera, hower msx is not working.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 10, 2019, 04:47:22 am
Use WinZip or other tool to check the CRC of the common dll , your original one and the one from the liberation package. If the CRC are not the same then the package will not work.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: alcs2000au on February 10, 2019, 07:40:09 am
Thanks for helping! However, I still can't figure out what the issue might be.

Model: E4 2.0L, Software: 3.13.0

Only the CRC-32 checksum is the same: (from here https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/crc32_checksum.html (https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/crc32_checksum.html))

common_dll.dll - From backup
CRC-16: 6ba0
CRC-32: 0c2baeaa
SHA256 Checksum: 68d771a652dd310c5f9e6e7d2ed4bfdc8f9dfe50b404311fe7d5899e447ce1c1

common_dll.dll - From liberation package 3.12.0
CRC-16: f861
CRC-32: 0c2baeaa
SHA256 Checksum: 0bc2dbe8b235cab4bcb43b9f320cb4621665fbdfc83f9232933c2d834627720c

I assume that would work just fine?

The two files, original from  the camera and the one from the 3.12.0 liberation package.

I tried once again, restoring the original files, everything works fine like out of the box.
I then added the cfc and dll, I get the resolution and disabled menu.
I then added the Basic files, I get the additional palettes and the programmable button, however the two screens stay disabled and only center spot measuring is available.

Edit: Interestingly the image mode is available if i switch do digital camera via the programmable button. However as soon as I switch to thermal, it greys out. Also Even when in digital camera mode and whilst thermal blendign can be selected, it doesn't activate.

Edit2: I tried to leave the basic files and .cgc file and replace the common dll with the orignal one. The only difference is that the programmable button disappears in the main menu. The resolution is still 320x240 and the additional palettes are still there. I also found out, that even though I can take photos, those infrared photos cant be importert to ThermoVision JoeC as I get the error: "ERR: No extracted Raw", see attached picture. So this makes me believe, that it is really the dll that is not working.

Edit3: I tried the common_dll.dll from 3.9.0 which bricked the camera. Back to the liberated 3.12.0 common_dll.dll. Still stuck at the same place.

SOLUTION: Use the new script for the cfc file, all works fine now!

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 10, 2019, 03:01:32 pm
Which two screens you are talking about?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: alcs2000au on February 10, 2019, 03:06:56 pm
I was talking about image mode. All good now, thanks so much! Cheers

PS: Advanced works just fine too.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: netpac on February 23, 2019, 02:48:29 pm
Also Bud - what are you using to unpack and repack the *.rcc files? (Windows or Linux tools?) Always wanted to tear into them but never managed to find anything that works on Windows... Any insight would be nice.

@Bud
I'm also interested in that. Please explain how the RCC files are unpacked and packed. Thank you very much
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on March 02, 2019, 03:03:13 pm
Hi All,
I have a weird situation with my wifi E4 3.9.0
I uploaded a permanent RNDIS fif yesterday and after rebooting, FlirInstallNet.exe does not detect the camera.  I tried launching the app with the camera powered on, and with camera unplugged, battery removed for 10 seconds and plugging it back in without powering on.   |O
The good thing is that RNDIS is enabled for now and I can access the FS through FTP over wired connection as well as wifi.
I checked for last updated file, it's zrndis.rsc which was modified when I enabled permanent RNDIS. 
I also have a backup from before I hacked it and also another one from after it was hacked and working.
Is there any way I can reverse the change by restoring the zrndis.rsc from backup or deleting it?    What I'm worried about is disabling rndis but then if FlirInstallNet still not detecting the camera effectively locking myself out of the camera for good.  :-//
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2019, 03:31:30 am
Rename removerndispermanent.fif to .zip, open the command file in it and look what it does, i believe it deletes zrndis file but you better check.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on March 04, 2019, 03:41:25 am
Thanks Bud, the command does delete the zrndis.rsc file. 
So if I delete the file and I still cannot detect the camera in flirinstallnet, will I be permanently locked out since RNDIS is now disabled?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2019, 04:00:28 am
Try reinstalling flir drivers or use another computer, i do not know why flirinstallnet not working while you can connect using other network tools.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CABNY on March 04, 2019, 04:59:28 am
Already tried another computer and reinstalling drivers.
I may have used the wrong fif file intended for older firmware.  It wasn’t specifically for 3.9.0. 
Maybe I should copy the zrndis.rsc from the backup and overwrite the existing one.  Hopefully it won’t brick it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 07:41:20 pm
Hi Today,

I got a camera with 3.16.0.

I tried applying the 3.12.0 hack and it is now stuck on the loading screen. (FLIR Logo)

I can not contact it via ftp. Any ideas? I have the original backup files.

Also I have a full copy of the 3.16.0 if needed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 07, 2019, 08:18:59 pm
There is no update package for v3.16.
Try using the Recovery procedure from post #183.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 08:22:06 pm
Ok I will try that. Would you like me to post the files that I have, Since there is no update package? like the common_dll etc. I have another camera with the same firmware that I think I can borrow
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 08:43:21 pm
Here is my conf.cfc and common_dll.dll (remove txt extension)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 08:49:03 pm
Here is the appcore too if that helps?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on March 07, 2019, 09:46:33 pm
What is the hardware version, serial number range(you can withhold last 2 digits)? Probably something like 6390450xx?
Where was it purchased from?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: luckyduck on March 07, 2019, 10:31:04 pm
What is the hardware version, serial number range(you can withhold last 2 digits)? Probably something like 6390450xx?
Where was it purchased from?
Not the OP, but similar predicament: sw 3.16.0
HW: 2.0L
Serial: 639047xxx
Bought via online electro retailer local to my coutnry (not amazon or the like; smaller shop)

I'm going to try to downgrade to 3.12.0, though. As that is the official package available from the website. :-)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 10:42:27 pm
What is the hardware version, serial number range(you can withhold last 2 digits)? Probably something like 6390450xx?
Where was it purchased from?

Looks like the same hardware

Model: E4 2.0L
Serial Number: 6390475XX

It was purchases from an US Authorized distributor that had recently got a new batch.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 10:44:04 pm
What is the hardware version, serial number range(you can withhold last 2 digits)? Probably something like 6390450xx?
Where was it purchased from?
Not the OP, but similar predicament: sw 3.16.0
HW: 2.0L
Serial: 639047xxx
Bought via online electro retailer local to my coutnry (not amazon or the like; smaller shop)

I'm going to try to downgrade to 3.12.0, though. As that is the official package available from the website. :-)

Hmm I would not do that. I did that once with a 3.13 the UI was fine but the whole screen was scrambled in terms of image
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: luckyduck on March 07, 2019, 10:49:16 pm
I'm going to try to downgrade to 3.12.0, though. As that is the official package available from the website. :-)

Hmm I would not do that. I did that once with a 3.13 the UI was fine but the whole screen was scrambled in terms of image
Hmm, that sounds scary. Sigh.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 10:51:02 pm
I'm going to try to downgrade to 3.12.0, though. As that is the official package available from the website. :-)

Hmm I would not do that. I did that once with a 3.13 the UI was fine but the whole screen was scrambled in terms of image
Hmm, that sounds scary. Sigh.

Yes it was. I did it on a unit that was already defective. It had a bad sensor (permanent dot). So it was being RMAed anyways
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 10:54:19 pm
Hopefully this 3.16.0 firmware won't be too bad to patch. As all the files look similar. Would like to learn how you guys did the last patch. I am not experienced in debugging these kinds of issues but would like to learn. What tools are being used. Do you disassemble the appcore.exe and the common_dll.dll?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on March 07, 2019, 11:00:46 pm
Downgrading may work. Peppy your image was probably blurry because you had to reapply the common dll and conf file
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 07, 2019, 11:06:39 pm
Hmm I would not do that. I did that once with a 3.13 the UI was fine but the whole screen was scrambled in terms of image
V3.13 was reported  working using 3.12 liberation package, no need to downgrade.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 11:10:38 pm
Hmm I would not do that. I did that once with a 3.13 the UI was fine but the whole screen was scrambled in terms of image
V3.13 was reported  working using 3.12 liberation package, no need to downgrade.

Yes I was aware of that at the time. However I wanted to reset to factory settings. They never released 3.13.0 on their site though. But correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: luckyduck on March 07, 2019, 11:14:07 pm
Anyhow, is there something I can do to help making the 3.16.0 liberation reality? ;)

Btw, funny thing, checked in FLIR tools, and the update says that for my 3.16.0 version there's a newer version (3.12.0) available for update. Interesting.

Edited to add:

Took a hard look at the diffs between the dlls, and:
Code: [Select]
-00005a10: 0150 a003 1c04 9de5 a144 03eb 0500 a0e1  .P.......D......
.00005a10: 0150 a003 1c04 9de5 a144 03eb 0500 a0e1  .P.......D......
+00005a10: 0150 a003 1c04 9de5 a144 03eb 0500 a0e3  .P.......D......
-000b1110: 0900 a0e1 0070 8de5 edf7 ffeb 0050 b0e1  .....p.......P..
.000b1110: 0900 a0e1 0070 8de5 edf7 ffeb 0050 b0e1  .....p.......P..
+000b1110: 0900 a0e1 0070 8de5 edf7 ffeb 0050 b0e3  .....p.......P..
-0012b850: 0000 0000 ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff  ................
.0012b850: 0000 0000 ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff  ................
+0012b850: 0000 0000 ffff ffff ffff f999 fff8 cced  ................
-0012b8c0: ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff  ................
.0012b8c0: ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff  ................
+0012b8c0: ffc2 f5e4 ffc5 c5d6 ffc2 ece7 ffff ffff  ................

Legend:
- v12 original
. v16 original
+ v12 liberated

... it looks like the changes could be applied to v16 all the same. But WTFDIK?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 07, 2019, 11:34:35 pm
Downgrading may work. Peppy your image was probably blurry because you had to reapply the common dll and conf file

Interesting. Might Try downgrading. So how do I prep for this. Say it doesn't work. How do I restore my 3.16.0 files?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 08, 2019, 12:00:22 am
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7876/46589803564_6804205a48_z.jpg)

Yeah not good 3.16.0 to 3.12.0

Any Ideas what's going on. This happened when I did 3.13.0 to 3.12.0

This is with the original files too.

Btw this is odd too. In flir tools it says update to 3.12.0 when checking for updates. If someone were to do that they would get this? Thats messed up
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 08, 2019, 12:23:10 am
Downgrading may work. Peppy your image was probably blurry because you had to reapply the common dll and conf file

Interesting. Might Try downgrading. So how do I prep for this. Say it doesn't work. How do I restore my 3.16.0 files?
I told you how.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 08, 2019, 12:28:51 am
Downgrading may work. Peppy your image was probably blurry because you had to reapply the common dll and conf file

Interesting. Might Try downgrading. So how do I prep for this. Say it doesn't work. How do I restore my 3.16.0 files?
I told you how.

Do you mean re apply as in copy over ur original conf.cfc and common_dll.dll after the downgrade? Thanks

Edit: ok I added back the oringal common_dll and conf. The image is still messed up
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 08, 2019, 01:03:29 am
Well at least I got it back to normal. I made a copy of the 3.16.0 before the downgrade. I just dragged over the entire systems folder inside FlashBFS into FlashBSF. It overwrote everything and I booted fine back into 3.16.0. So back to square 1
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 08, 2019, 02:36:26 am
Try replacing the commondll on your 3.16 with the attached one. If the camera will boot ok, you can try proceeding with the Basic package from 3.12.0 , just use the attached version.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on March 08, 2019, 02:55:10 am
Try replacing the commondll on your 3.16 with the attached one. If the camera will boot ok, you can try proceeding with the Basic package from 3.12.0 , just use the attached version.

Confirmed working on 3.16 with advanced menu.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: peppy88 on March 08, 2019, 03:10:32 am
Same. Thanks alot Bud
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 08, 2019, 03:24:53 am
Enjoy it :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: luckyduck on March 08, 2019, 06:47:29 pm
Enjoy it :-+
Oh man. Oh man. This is so much better. It's not even funny.

I have no idea what the "medical" thing is for, but otherwise, this is just wonderful. And I dig the programmable button.  :clap:

Thank you.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 08, 2019, 10:48:38 pm
The medical palette seems to be for diagnostic of body injuries/abnormalities, like in the last image in the thread here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/thermal-camera-expertise-requested-to-help-spas-to-stop-sexual-assault/msg2205009/#msg2205009 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/thermal-camera-expertise-requested-to-help-spas-to-stop-sexual-assault/msg2205009/#msg2205009)

which i think used the same medical palette. I recall there is a model of a Flir camera that has only one palette, the medical one. I'd think you'd need to be trained to properly interpret it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Avok78 on March 17, 2019, 02:17:58 pm
Try replacing the commondll on your 3.16 with the attached one. If the camera will boot ok, you can try proceeding with the Basic package from 3.12.0 , just use the attached version.

Hi Bud,
I noticed that you are from Canada like me  :-+.
Do you know which Flir E4 SW and HW version Amazon.ca and ITM.com are selling?
I just started to look for a thermal imaging device and I was surprised that with a software modification it is possible to have a better image resolution like the E8 device.
I started to read the threads related to this device, but they are huge and they start from 2013  :phew:
Can I ask you if all E4 SW and HW versions are able to be upgraded in order to get the E8 features (better resolution and menu hack)?

Thank you in advance for your response.  ^-^
Much appreciated.
Bye.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 17, 2019, 02:30:51 pm
I do not know what amazon or ITM  are selling.
For E4 models sold over the last couple years you pretty much only need to read this thread.
I guess noone can tell you if All sw and hw versions can be done, your ask is unrealistic. For a list of fw that i know about refer to post #18 of this thread.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Avok78 on March 17, 2019, 03:14:40 pm
I do not know what amazon or ITM  are selling.
For E4 models sold over the last couple years you pretty much only need to read this thread.
I guess noone can tell you if All sw and hw versions can be done, your ask is unrealistic. For a list of fw that i know about refer to post #18 of this thread.

Thanks Bud for your response.
I wondered that it was impossible to say that all SW/HW versions are hackable. If you were me, would you buy the one available from Amazon.ca?  :phew:.
I know it's a silly question, but it's a lot of money (for me  :-[) and I want to be sure that I'm doing the right thing  :scared:.
Also, I was not able to find the list of FW in the post #18, am I missing something?
Thanks again for your response!
Bye
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on March 17, 2019, 03:32:07 pm
If buying from Amazon, buy the unit, open the box, check the firmware version installed. If not what you wanted, return the unit to Amazon under their standard returns policy as “unwanted” or “bought in error”.
Do not try to hack the unit, fail and then return it though. That would be immoral.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 17, 2019, 04:53:33 pm
It was post #183, sorry for the typo.
I would not buy from amazon, i would buy from ITM a WiFi one, it is unlikely ITM would carry old versions of the device.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: hibeejo on March 21, 2019, 12:23:22 am
Looking for some help, been scrawling through the numerous threads and can't quite find the right info I'm looking for.

I've recently got my hands on a well priced E4 with a view to hacking it, I'm currently studying Thermography (Buildings) and I'm keen to complete the hack asap, so I can get out and complete my reports whilst the Scottish nights are still dark and cold. My training centre we're going to attempt the upgrade for me but they hadn't had experience of the upgrade with my version. I contacted one of the Ebay accounts to see if my model can be hacked and they said it could.

I have:
Flir E4 1.1L
Part No 63901-0101
Software 1.21.0

I'm running on Windows 10,

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance
Modify message
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on March 21, 2019, 12:33:56 am
Have you looked at the original E4 upgrade thread ? It was actually titled as the E4 teardown but became dedicated to upgrading the early E4 camera models like yours.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/)

The first post contains an index of upgrades for different versions of firmware, including yours.

And yes your camera can be updraded relatively easily.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: hibeejo on March 21, 2019, 12:55:36 am
hi

thanks for replying,yeah looked on that thread but couldnt (unless i'm missing something right under my nose), see the info relating to the 1.1L Build
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on March 21, 2019, 01:08:32 am
Upgrade it to 3.13 and do the most recent hack.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: czjesus on March 24, 2019, 06:53:15 pm
Hi
I just bought new FLIR E4 without WIFI from RS components. I wanted to use liberation package, but I made terrible mistake  |O.
Camera was delivered with firmware 3.16. I was not able to active RNDIS, I was mislead by some post about secret menu. (I am stupid  |O)
So I decided to use Flir tools which were recommending firmware "upgrade" to version 3.12. So I start firmware upgrade procedure from flir tools, but after procedure finishes (without any errors) camera show messy image (see ). Then I find how to correctly activate RNDIS. I made "backup" of all files after this upgrade and try to proceed with liberation step by step.
Basic liberation package and advanced. Hi res tweak was probably successful - after it I can see hires distorted image and all new menus are probably also working.
If I use 3.12 common_dll.dll after upgrade or from liberation package I see distorted image. If I use Bud 3.16 common_dll.dll from one of previous posts camera don’t boot - it stuck at Flir logo and I can connect only through recovery login. I tried to boot it with original cfc file and also with liberated cfc.
I don’t have backup of my original 3.16 files. Does anybody have official fif file for upgrade to 3.16?
Can anybody please help? Thank You.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mikhail076 on April 01, 2019, 08:42:09 am
Upgrade it to 3.13 and do the most recent hack.

Are you sure that this can be done successfully?
1.2L (NOT 2.0!!!) and 3.12.  Can do the most recent hack?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on April 02, 2019, 02:43:11 am
Yep
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fernandochia on April 06, 2019, 06:44:04 pm
Hello yo all, this is my first post.

Yesterday i bought a new E4 no Wifi with HW1.2L but FW 3.12.0. (maybe this info is helpfull for someone who is going to buy a new one).

Believe me, i has spent a lot of hour reading this topic and the original (Thermal imaging camera teardown), but all that information started to mix in my head.

Xenawise has asked for recomendation on similar case (HW 1.2L and 2.8.0 FW). When she asked, the 3.12.0 liberation pack wasn't ready, and the recomendation Fraser gave was to downgrade to FW 2.11.

Now the 3.12.0 (my current FW) is ready and tested, but i only recall for succes on 2.0L HW cases.
DaveWB has recomend to upgrade to 3.13 and perform the most recent hack.

In resume i have the following questions:

1- Xenawise: Did you succesfully perform the liberation by downgrading to 2.11? Can you send me by PM a resume of the steps you had performed?
2- Mikhail076: I think you are in the same boat as i, how was your experience?
3- DaveWB, Fraser: What path do you recomend me to follow?
4- Can i perform the liberation in a Win 7 64 bits computer?

Thanks in advance, and special thanks to bud and all the people that is collaborating whit this topic!
(Sorry if my english it's not good).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: lutqq on April 27, 2019, 07:34:35 pm
E5   2,0L    3.13.0   

I got resolution hack !!!!!   the 320*240 works on E5 !!!

1) used files for version 3.12.0 

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)

2) replaced only two files (common_dll.dll  and conf.cfc), the rest file did not try

3) in the conf.cfg file in the line made the replacement of "E4" by "E5"
before:              .caps.config.name text "app E4"
after change:    .caps.config.name text "app E5"

the rest of the changes are exactly the same as in the Bud instructions


thx  Bud

Update:   I load all "Basic Package" files.  All are working fine.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: aknorts on May 11, 2019, 12:17:50 pm
Is it possible to edit file "facet.rcc"?
I have Visual Studio and I can open it, but I think it is encrypted.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: dieseltech82 on May 21, 2019, 05:21:54 pm
I just bought an E5 only to find that I could have saves some money and hacked an E4. That's ok, I'm not mad. I will check firmware and hopefully I'll be able to hack like you did.  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: dieseltech82 on May 24, 2019, 06:08:32 pm
I was able to get this working today on my Flir E5 2.0L 3.16. Installed both basic and advanced. I'm a lvl 2 thermographer but haven't used the technology for at least 8 years. I think this guy is better than the 20K unit i used back then.
I did have a couple hangups
1) RNDIS is not necessary if you have a WiFi unit. I used the hotspot in my house to connect the device to, then I was able to ping the device as described using cmd prompt ping IRCAMxxxx. X's being the last 4 of S/N
2) The whole python thing was difficult as I have done 0 with code previously. Another mentioned using MS cmd prompt and his explanation worked 100%. Make sure to have the appropriate CFG file (basic or advanced) in the Python27 folder. Also, be sure to open the downloaded cfg file in NOTEPAD in order to modify it for your devices S/N.
I used WinSPC, it was ezpz.
Thanks to all who contributed. Bud, if you have PayPal I would love to donate to your time in developing all of this. I don't have crypto but I will figure out how to pay that way if that's your preference (I don't blame you for wanting to stay away from sites like PayPal).
Again, everything works great on my new camera. No hiccups, no issues. It all went without an issue. It took approximately 2.5 hours, over half of that was me trying to figure out the WiFi connection and python  |O

I'm running a windows 7 professional x64 system if that helps
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on May 24, 2019, 06:28:13 pm
Thanks diesel, i will save you time on learning cryptocurrency, please send your donation to the owner of this site as a token of appreciation from both of us for providing such wonderful resource platform. You can simply use the Donate button at the bottom of the main eevblog.com page.  8)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: victorhooi on June 04, 2019, 09:55:32 pm
I have a Flir E4 WiFi.

The model is E4 2.0L.

Software version is 3.12.0.

I believe I previously tried doing the resolution hack but it didn't work, and I had to revert to the original files I backed up.

I'd like to take another go.

Does anybody know what's the latest official firmware I should update to, before trying? And where do I download this firmware from? (For some reason I can't find the download link on the FLIR website).

And which package should I be using to modify the above hardware/software version?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on June 05, 2019, 02:02:04 pm
See post #478
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: victorhooi on June 05, 2019, 09:08:53 pm
Ok go it - I've found that post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)

So this is the hack for 3.12.0.

Do you know if this package will also work on any more recent firmware versions? (Apart from 3.13.0).

Also - I noticed when I booted up the FLIR for the first time, there was a message about this firmware being for educational purposes, and to remove it before selling or something - so it's possible I didn't fully revert it back to stock when I was mucking around with it last time. I thought I had a backup and copied it with WinSCP - but is there another way I should revert it back to stock?

EDIT: Also - where does one download 3.13.0? (Or whichever is the latest firmware version that works with this hack).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on June 05, 2019, 10:26:33 pm
 You should read the thread. I do not remember all details, once i write a post i put all i know in it and move on.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on June 29, 2019, 01:29:42 am
Out of curiosity, is there a way to remove the nag screen on my newly modified E4? (Linked pic)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 29, 2019, 01:49:37 am
You've been given a free upgrade. Don't be greedy.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on June 29, 2019, 01:56:57 am
You've been given a free upgrade. Don't be greedy.
This thread is full of users asking for help and features to be added. I don't see how me doing the same labels me as greedy or how this even has anything to do with greed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on June 29, 2019, 04:06:56 am
This was answered already in this topic.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mikhail076 on June 29, 2019, 09:21:44 pm
who wants to fix pop-up screen pm me
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 29, 2019, 11:53:51 pm
Those sellers are scammers providing a butchered version of this package. Never buy from them.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on June 30, 2019, 01:57:26 am
This was answered already in this topic.

Sorry, I was using the search function but none of my queries were returning any results in this thread. So I went back through and found that it looks like you do not want this splash screen/nag removed. That's fine, but could you point us in the right direction of the file associated with it if we wanted to add to it? Something along the lines of "This Flir is property of ____, if found, please call _____"
Thanks for everything you have done to advance this project!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 30, 2019, 02:00:04 am
That's like saying "You don't want to remove the nag screen. That's fine. Could you point me to where it's located so I can do that myself instead?"
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on June 30, 2019, 02:01:32 am
I wonder how they do it...supposedly it reads as an E8 in software as well? According to the one listing I saw on there.  :-//
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on June 30, 2019, 03:25:02 am
That's like saying "You don't want to remove the nag screen. That's fine. Could you point me to where it's located so I can do that myself instead?"
No, it's me respecting the fact that the original modder would prefer that screen stay in place and instead saying "ok, what about adding something personal to it? Could you point me in the right direction?"

Why the jadedness towards me? I'm not making money off of this, I just want to further personalize my device.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on June 30, 2019, 04:26:16 am
Replace the .bmp boot logo if you want personalization. It's just a 320x240 image.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CrashCourse on June 30, 2019, 10:21:50 pm
Has anyone bought one recently from Amazon. As in sold and shipped by Amazon. Want to get one but want to increase the chances of upgrading to 320x240. I'm a home DIY and a Systems Admin who is proficient in scripting languages. I'm not sure what hardware/software versions are on current models and if those can be modified yet or if at all.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: topnitroracer on July 01, 2019, 10:29:58 am
Hardware 2.0 and firmware 3.16 is the latest. And both were on the last cameras I purchased from amazon.  Same with the E5 on amazon - from amazon.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: topnitroracer on July 01, 2019, 01:40:04 pm
First of all thanks Bud and everyone who has helped on this effort. 

I have a couple questions.

#1.  Does anyone have any experience with creating .fif files to push files to be installed via FLIRInstallNet?  When I am experimenting with my camera, connecting via wifi works flawlessly.  However if I am messing about with some changes and the camera gets stuck on the logo screen and I need to connect through USB and RNDIS.  My computer can connect, but all my computers struggle with assigning an IP address.  It will eventually, but it takes a lot of fighting and wondering if it ever will – could very well be settings on my computers.  Using FLIRInstallNet can be used to install temporary, or permanent RNDIS, or remove the permanent RNDIS.  I have tired copying the process from what I could read, but I have not had any luck with it recognizing my .fif files.  I was thinking just to do it with singular files, but it would have great potential to quickly restore all files that last worked. 


#2.  Then, are there any tricks to open the Facet.rcc file?  It looks to be encrypted.  I probably do not have the right files to decrypt.


Thanks for any help.
TNR 


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CrashCourse on July 05, 2019, 05:07:46 am
Thanks for the info just waiting for Amazon to get more in stock.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: BodHack on July 08, 2019, 09:15:20 am
Thanks to all the contributors, I can report success on an E4 2.0L (non-wifi) with firmware 3.16.

The difference is extraordinary - from a toy to a tool. Donated to eevblog (as suggested in post #811)!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: aknorts on July 10, 2019, 05:56:13 pm
Hi, I hear about new series flir e5-xt, e6-xt, e8-xt. In this series is bigest temperature range -20°C to 400°C (was -20°C to 250°C). I want try to hack it to e8-xt. Which camera  is the cheapest, should I buy e5-xt or can I use e4 wifi? Files from this forum should work?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: daniel.b on July 18, 2019, 08:18:29 am
Hi,
I bought FLIR E4 Wifi ver.  2.0L 3.16.0.  I would like to make a hack to E8, is the procedure the same as in 3.13 step by step if I have to pick up some other .dll files
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Yeiquiro on July 24, 2019, 05:23:52 am
Hello friends, I am new, I don't know anything about programming, I have been watching some tutorials but I am confused I would like to know if I can do Downgrade of my Flir E4 camera that came with version 3.12 advanced mode naively updated to 3.16 and I lost the color palettes, MSX mode I They could help by telling me step by step how I can do the Downgrade 3.12 to have the advanced mexu and 320 X 240 resolution again I thank you infinitely for your help. Sorry for my bad English, I only speak Portuguese and Spanish.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on July 24, 2019, 01:29:40 pm
I would say do not downgrade, this may make things worse. Browse this topic backwards until you find the DLL for v3.16, then repeat the original liberation process but use that DLL.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: daniel.b on July 26, 2019, 11:05:23 am
Bud In the case of software version 3.16, you can use procedure 3.13 by using 3.16.dll
In my case, to connect to ftp I use a wifi connection whether to leave or try to run RNDIS.
I would like to be sure not to damage the camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Aussie Bloke on July 26, 2019, 10:43:21 pm
daniel.b. You can not damage it if you follow the instructions. I brought a new E4 wifi 3.16.0 2 weeks ago and applied as Bud described. Make sure you back up your files. If you have done something wrong OR decide that you want to become adventurous within the files, the backup files will be handy to you. If you can not log in to WinSCP again (this happened to me) to correct the "jammed" at startup (because you were adventurous with something important) Use the recovery user and password from page 8 to log back in and correct it. I have applied both res and advanced to the Brand new unit and aside from also having the intro nag screen that the new units have when hacked it works perfectly. The nag screen is a small price considering the quality of unit you end up with.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: frogg on July 30, 2019, 05:54:22 pm
does anyone have mirrors for some of the old files in this thread? some of the links are broken.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: owlcity4 on August 01, 2019, 04:21:17 am
I recently bought an E4 2.0L 3.13.0 thermal imaging camera. Where is the cracking tutorial? I haven't found it for a long time, thank you.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: agiorgitis on August 01, 2019, 05:21:57 am
Hi guys, new member on the forum!
I need your advice.

I'm about to choose between Flir E4 and Flir E4 Wifi, with a price difference of around $300.
Both are converted to E8.

I don't really care about wifi connectivity (at least not enough to pay extra $300 for it). Does the wifi version have better electronics or improved thermal sensor, or a better built quality? What would you choose?
The use will be mostly for monitoring some equipment on my job for possible hot spots. If any is identified, I'll use flir tools to adjust the image and create a report, maybe 2-3 reports per month.

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: owlcity4 on August 01, 2019, 05:33:37 am
I recently bought an E4 2.0L 3.13.0 thermal imaging camera. Where is the cracking tutorial?  thank you.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on August 01, 2019, 12:36:35 pm
Agiortitis

The Wi-Fi equipped Ex series camera just have the Wi-Fi radio module fitted. They are otherwise identical to the non-Wi-Fi model. The Ex  series use the same hardware platform across the range with the Wi-Fi module just plugging into the main PCB. FLIR do not operate a ‘binning’ process to select the better Microbolometers for the more expensive Ex series cameras. The Microbolometer that they use is of good quality with excellent fabrication yields so binning and SoT was deemed unnecessary.

I understand a higher temperature range Ex series is now available. That might be more useful than Wi-Fi capability ? Sadly, upon checking, the new ‘XT’ suffix cameras with higher maximum temperature specification do not include the E4. A clever marketing move by FLIR to encourage the purchase of the E5, E6 and E8 Cameras and a small counter to the E4 hack ;)

Details here.....

http://www.test-termografia.it/flir_ex-xt/ex-xt-datasheet.pdf (http://www.test-termografia.it/flir_ex-xt/ex-xt-datasheet.pdf)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: agiorgitis on August 03, 2019, 10:54:08 pm
Great, thank Fraser!
Good to know that basically they're the same

One more thing, if I buy an unhacked E4 Wifi (which may run on 3.16), it's hackable, right?
I just follow Bud's instructions while using the file for 3.16 instead.
(I've spent quite some time reading this thread!  :-+ )
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CrashCourse on August 08, 2019, 09:11:13 pm
So I finally got one. 2.0L 3.16 Wifi off amazon.
Re-read this thread and
Replaced the common_dll.dll with the one inside the supplied common_dll_3.16.zip file
rebooted but still no go on the upgraded res

The resolution is all I need.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: frogg on August 09, 2019, 12:30:53 am
Resolution hack and Menu Hack success on a 2015 calibration E4, 2.3.0 firmware.

Remember: Back Everything Up Before Proceeding. I made 4 different backups in four different locations.

Used a Windows 8.1 32-bit OS Windows machine (x64 processor.)

For the most part, I used fubar.gr's FLIR e4 hacking guide. (https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/))

Some differences in my install:

1. My E4 would not provide DNS for my windows 8.1 box. I had to manually set the IP address of my RNDIS network adapter to 192.168.250.1 and 255.255.255.0, no gateway and no DNS (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-resolution-upgrade/msg624149/#msg624149 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-resolution-upgrade/msg624149/#msg624149)).
2. When using filezilla to connect to the Flir E4, I had to connect to IP address 192.168.250.2
3. I used janekivi's 2.3.0_menu_2014_EX_6_fix.zip file (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg577970/#msg577970 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg577970/#msg577970)) - attached to this post. I don't know why, but I had to use this specific version and not the version that was in fubar's site.
4. I used the 2.3.0_Menu.fif file in janekivi's 2.3.0_menu_2014_EX_6_fix.zip file, not the version that Fubar uses in his blog.
5. The first time you pull the trigger to take a photo, you'll get an error message saying that there's no image storage. This is ok. Just pull the trigger again after a few seconds and it will work. If it doesn't work, give it a few more seconds and try it again. It will work.

The end result is amazing. This thing is absolutely amazing now. The new functions and radiometric measurement just blows me away...and big thanks to everyone who made this a reality.

One more thing...if you want an easy way to record video from your FLIR E4, use FLIRInstall to disable RNDIS on your E4. Then, cold boot your FLIR, and verify that it connects as a USB drive to your PC (UVC mode).

Once this is done, open up the "Camera" app in Windows 8 and you'll see the FLIR E4's display mirrored on your PC. You can now record videos, time lapse, etc with no issues. Cheers
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: CrashCourse on August 09, 2019, 01:03:37 am
Stupid me.... Forgot to put the modified config in appcore. duhhhhh.
Everyone involved in the project Flipping Rocks. Awesome work!!!!!

So everyone says use 3.13 instruction on 3.16
I am assuming since 3.13 uses 3.12 menu files
then on 3.16 we use 3.12 files uploaded here

I'm getting greedy lol, want the advanced menu now that I see the res.


EDIT: NVM I took the chance and wow. Bud and everyone else involved OMG Saweeeeeeeeeeet!!!
Thanks!

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Yeiquiro on August 09, 2019, 03:00:18 pm
can someone give me help with this problem
my camera is a flir E4 with resolution 320 x 240 msx by mistake update to version 3.16 where I thought it was going to have some improvement where it was not like that the images were all pixelated and in poor quality I contacted the technical support of flir attended me one such Daniel Cuervo where I hurt the camera more than I was. I entered by team viewers and did the procedure and now my camera is completely in bootloader mode when you connect to the computer an ASCO unit with 23 mb comes out.
There is some solution for this problem since in Brazil or the USA they want to fix it after doing the damage.
I have not been able to work for 2 weeks this was my job and now I have no way to support my family since I depended on the camera to work
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 09, 2019, 05:47:54 pm
I think you need to accept that this stuff is too complicated for you to do by yourself and look at other options. You could find and pay someone (the outcome may not be successful), send the camera to Flir for rebuild, or sell it as non-working and add some cash and buy a new one (or a working liberated one). You may need to look what will cost you less and go ahead. This may be the quickest way to get you back on track, especially if your income depends on it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on August 23, 2019, 01:41:48 pm
So my camera was firmware 1.2L, software 2.8.
I put the camera in RNDIS mode and then realized I would need to downgrade to 2.3 software. I tried the link posted and it was dead.
So I installed the latest version of Flir Tools and saw there was a software update to 3.16, a known hackable version based on my reading.
I installed it and rebooted the camera. Everything seems fine, EXCEPT that I cannot connect to it via FTP. If I set the Flir RNDIS network adapter to an IP of 192.168.0.2, I can ping it, but I cannot live connect in Flir Tools. I get the error "CAMERA_RTREE_CONNECT ERROR" in the Log window.
When trying to run a FIF to remove RNDIS I get "RESPONSE_TIMEOUT" in FlirInstallNet

Thoughts?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: frogg on August 23, 2019, 04:02:02 pm
Did you restore UVC mode prior to the upgrade, or did you upgrade with the camera still in RNDIS mode?

One thing to try is to restore UVC mode. Check to make sure that your camera can still connect as a USB storage drive through UVC.

If that's still ok, THEN try switching to RNDIS mode again.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on August 24, 2019, 01:30:38 am
The firmware upgrade was done while still in RNDIS mode (unfortunately).
I am unable to set the camera back to UVC mode either by way of the built-in camera menu or using FlirInstallNet with the fif file.
Running ipconfig I see the IP address I statically set for the RNDIS adapter (192.168.0.1) but there is NO gateway or device IP, so I cannot ping 192.168.0.2 as I first thought.
I have tried a factory reset on the device through its menu, still no change.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: frogg on August 24, 2019, 06:52:21 pm
fyi the built in camera menu won't ever do anything :)

make sure you disable all your actual NICs so that RNDIS is the only active adapter.

There should be no gateway or statically set device IP (I've never seen either when doing my hack).

Manually set your machine IP to 192.168.250.1

Try to connect to 192.168.250.2 (the camera)

any luck that way?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 26, 2019, 12:04:31 am
to rule out some network variables, i'd suggest using a WinXP computer. Those always worked, not like Win 7 and can't even speak for Win 10
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on September 05, 2019, 07:36:02 am
Hi everyone,
New member here.
I have a E6 WiFi on my way, supposed to arrive next week.
I know the serial 639022*** ,mfg date  January 31 2018  and product numbers 63907-0***.
Is there any way to kinnda foresee the FW type so I can start preparing the necessary files? It's a brand new unit, open case.

Al
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on September 09, 2019, 01:18:02 am
Hmm, got a hold of an E5-xt, however when looking at the conf.cfc file, it doesn't seem like there is anything different than before. Maybe it's part of another file? Maybe it's a gimmick?
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#
# Generated at 2018-12-04 13:15:14
#
.caps entry
.caps.config entry
.caps.config.name text "app E5xt"
.caps.config.revision text "2.1"
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.caps.config.image.framegrab.fusion.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.framegrab.fusion.pip entry
.caps.config.image.framegrab.fusion.pip.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.framegrab.fusion.hcf entry
.caps.config.image.framegrab.fusion.hcf.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.services entry
.caps.config.image.services.store entry
.caps.config.image.services.store.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.services.store.radiometric entry
.caps.config.image.services.store.radiometric.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.services.store.incompatible entry
.caps.config.image.services.store.incompatible.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.services.store.incompatible.level int32 0
.caps.config.image.settings entry
.caps.config.image.settings.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.settings.IRwidth int32 160
.caps.config.image.settings.IRheight int32 120
.caps.config.image.sysimg entry
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.measfunc entry
.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.measfunc.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.measfunc.maxCount int32 3
.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.humidity entry
.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.humidity.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.humidity.maxCount int32 1
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.insulation.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.alarms.insulation.maxCount int32 1
.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers entry
.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.enabled bool false
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.spot.enabled bool false
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.arrow.enabled bool false
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.box.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.irMarkers.box.maxCount int32 0
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.enabled bool true
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.diff.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.diff.maxCount int32 1
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.diff.calcMask int32 65526
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm entry
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.calcMask int32 20
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.dual bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.fixScale bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.interval bool true
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.invInterval bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm.maxCount int32 1
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.mbox.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.mbox.calcMask int32 1924
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.mbox.maxCount int32 1
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.mcircle entry
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.mcircle.enabled bool false
.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.mcircle.calcMask int32 1924
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.mline.enabled bool false
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.reftemp.enabled bool false
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.script.enabled false
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.caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.spot.maxCount int32 1
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Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on September 27, 2019, 06:32:42 pm
Hi all,

first of all I need to thank to this beautiful community for making all this possible.

Got a E6 3.12 and successfully upgraded to the E8+ via wifi telnet  :-+ BUD.  The whole operation took like 3.5h, most of it looking around the forums for small bits of info. All hacking done via WIN 10 x64, no hiccups at all. I ll try to write a one big post with all the info and files that I used.

 small bits that bother me after :

---MXM alignment is off.  Looking over the forum I found solutions but the info is so scarce and scattered that it kinda freaks me out to try.

 Is the CRC32 of calib.rsc declared on an XML somewhere or is it only in the file? like if i want to correct it, do I only need to get the new CRC32 and write it on the file?

--- small bright spot appeared lower left, seems like dust or something INSIDE the sensor. Camera was factory calibrated 18/01/2018 so it's still on the warranty period :-X (of course with the E6 software)
see attach

Q. Is the charging via USB port reserved only to charge with the genuine charger? heard stories about people frying the charging IC with a regular 5V 1A microUSB charger


 
   
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: negative_feedback on September 29, 2019, 06:41:22 pm
Hello. Got E4 3.16 calibrated on 28/08/2019, used 3.12 Basic package + 3.16 dll and will do Advanced just for lols. I used RNDIS method via USB cable (menu for enabling RNDIS is not working properly for some time) and cfccfg_V2 (for encoding and decoding original configs).

Some notes:

* I forgot to insert serial number (used SUID instead) in conf.cfc and E4 ignored config file resulting in "broken MSX". It totally ignored .cfc so many things where off, not just MSX. Re-encoding of the file with python script fixed the issue.
* I have used VMWare Win7 32bit and RNDIS procedure from here https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ but everything else from this thread. I suggest WiFi method to novice users.


small bits that bother me after :

---MXM alignment is off.  Looking over the forum I found solutions but the info is so scarce and scattered that it kinda freaks me out to try.

 Is the CRC32 of calib.rsc declared on an XML somewhere or is it only in the file? like if i want to correct it, do I only need to get the new CRC32 and write it on the file?

--- small bright spot appeared lower left, seems like dust or something INSIDE the sensor. Camera was factory calibrated 18/01/2018 so it's still on the warranty period :-X (of course with the E6 software)
see attach

Q. Is the charging via USB port reserved only to charge with the genuine charger? heard stories about people frying the charging IC with a regular 5V 1A microUSB charger   

Did you try to set distance in "Image menu" and shooting distance in Settings? Those 2 are independant and both accept "meters" as input.

How can someone fry it when it can get 900mA from USB3 or something... I dont like it charging off usb data cable but they got spare batteries for sale anyway :)

And about your broken sensor. I also had E4 with broken sensor, returned it and got brand new one. However I get some backlight bleed above FLIR logo so I sport Display in Low brightness now. Fraser suspects refurbrished unit(s) because everyone is hacking them now so it makes sense. He suggested FLIR Exx because of more robust touch screens. Does that "spot" show on PC when you transfer images or not?

PS About USB port: there is underrated post on this forum about using magnetic usb charing cables to physically protect charging port on FLIR cameras because it fits under rubber cover I guess so its perfect.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on September 30, 2019, 10:16:43 am
Quote

PS About USB port: there is underrated post on this forum about using magnetic usb charing cables to physically
protect charging port on FLIR cameras because it fits under rubber cover I guess so its perfect.


Yeah, I did it via an QI charging pad so I can wireless charge it.
The spot looks like some runaway thermal pixels, the spot is not visible when cold booting but appears aftef 1-2 mins.
Someone on a different forum promsed to send me a link with the Flir service firmware so at least I could get the servicing WI up and running. For now the E6 is dismantled and hooked up to the special brain (I do ATM servicing for a living).


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 30, 2019, 11:23:55 am
FlirAI,

That spot and the symptoms you describe normally indicates a foreign body on the window of the Microbolometer. I presume you have removed the lens to look closely at that window to eliminate that from your investigation ? The reason the foreign body behaves like this is that it warms up due to the Microbolometers self heating radiation through the window and the foreign body reflects heat back to the die.

The FFC event would normally correct any drift in pixels as the Ex series are non uniformity corrected at the factory across their full 320 x 240 pixel FPA. It is true that the NUC table can become out of date if the Microbolometer suffers abuse that changes the temperature response of pixels, but that is unusual.

The dead pixel correction utility that is built into the early Ex cameras firmware has, to date, been a challenge to add to later models with the edited firmware content. From memory, people managed to insert the missing Service Menu utility files but when the dead pixel map utility was run, it reported missing code that was needed for it to run. Also from memory, the missing code resides in Areas of the firmware that are not easily edited.

Also, please be aware that the E4 went through both firmware and hardware changes that make using the original firmware (with service menu), such as V1.19 incompatible with later hardware cameras. You end up with a bricked camera. The E4 Teardown thread is massive but it tracks the various changes that were made over the life of the Ex series to date. In Précis, FLIR we’re trying to prevent users unlocking the full potential of an E4 and tried various approaches. All were flawed due to the Ex series using the less than secure Windows CE6 OS.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: negative_feedback on September 30, 2019, 02:11:17 pm
The spot looks like some runaway thermal pixels, the spot is not visible when cold booting but appears aftef 1-2 mins.

Happend to me after 10min, whole array went crazy. Camera had old pictures still inside indicating same anomaly so it was easy decision to return it. Demo unit probably.  :scared:


What about MSX issue?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on September 30, 2019, 07:28:16 pm
Hi,
MSX was user imput stupidity, adjusting distance makes it perfect... Don't want to rush to conclusions, but the WinCe implementation is kinda stupid and half baked, I need to rent an XT model and an e60 to get really see where the flags are. My associate is busy hacking the sensor driver and maybe we can even sign it. For sure this E6 will not survive but maybe I'll get a super liberation FW. I can see discarded frames, if I can see the eprom via WI I'll be able to understand more.
What really bothers is that with dual use legality and whatnot, Flir engineers took a really childish path. There's a guy in Netherlands that succeeded in getting raw frames.
 
Fraser, you are really kind and helpful. If u look at timestamps it's all 2012 and older. I'll blow the sensor as soon as I can, and post the results. Why there should be anything under the lens on a brand new unit????
I'll try my way a bit, my associate knows wince better than breathing....
.
PS.  Sensor looks clean, brush and air. Tomorrow I'll see mayhe on the upper side of the isri
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 30, 2019, 07:49:35 pm
FlirAI,

The dirt on the Microbolometer window appears to stem from less than perfect production cleanliness !
Tiny bits of plastic or dirt find their way into the area around the Microbolometer where the FFC shutter resides. Plastic can even come out of the plastic lens barrel threads as it is screwed into the somewhat rough metal lens mount ! In transit the loose material can find its way onto the Microbolometer window. This situation is rare but has occurred a few times in the past. The worst case is when the contamination occurs in the factory before the NUC tables are created. This is because the NUC tables capture the dirt blemish and it becomes part of the cameras correction process. If the contamination falls off in transit or is cleaned away by the user, the NUC table becomes inaccurate for that area of the Microbolometer. This causes a blemish on the display that can only be corrected with a repeat NUC calibration. FFC will try to correct the issue but it is not always possible.

The work you are doing on the firmware sounds fascinating  :-+ WinCE was always a bit flakey in my experience and I tend to avoid anything that runs it ! I found Linux based equipment far more stable.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on September 30, 2019, 09:04:33 pm
Fraser,
Thanks for the quick reply. I suspect a small flake either veery close to microbolometer or a big one 2 mm far. The spot is roughly 30 pixels in diameter. 30 pix diagonally is under 1mm so maybe the small flake is an impurity in a close screen to the sensor. Maybe there are indeed technical issues with lower resolution imagers. Like on cpu industry, maybe the sensors are so expensive that they get reused in lower specs animals. They all tend to I7 but i5 is median and x9 is a rare find. They reroute the die and use it as i3 or atom if fault is grouped. Could be the case here. Maybe our sensors cannot possibly output 45 Hz reliable so they get assigned to 9 hz automatically. Maybe my sensor is like that when read at E8 resolution. Anyway it's not bothering, it is quite possible in this case.
One should not forget that they are made in Europe where clean room operators, in this kind of cost range, are more sloppy than operators on a 70k sensor made by a robot that runs in  millions of euros. Robots that run wince BTW.

What we tend to forget is that the E series is for Flir like iPhone cases for Apple. I bet Flir could sell e8 at 900 in profit.

They are mainly a super duper govt and ultra specialized equipment with a price rage to millions easy. That's where our luck resides. My bet is that they RD a unique HW platform for the entire E series and implemented different types of content. Easy and) fast. Of course, every mainboard has to be built according to connections and inputs, hence touchscreen and SD card support developing different software interfaces on wince is not economical and it's time consuming (think only about supoort fees :-X). Nixdorf found out the hard way about support. WinCE is a worn-out embedd that can be explored like a skin mole, with proven exploits and man in the middle attacks. Wince is running on missiles also. It's easy to deploy. Easy to install but also easy to hack. U can't hack a missile
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 30, 2019, 09:44:30 pm
FlirAI,

I can provide some comments on the Microbolometers as there are data-sheets already in the public domain.

It is no secret that modern microbolometers can output much higher frame rates than normally seen on cameras. 120 frames per second has already been seen from a ULIS Microbolometer running in a fire fighting camera.

When considering a microbolometer we need to remember its architecture when considering its capabilities.
In précis, it has a matrix of pixels that are read out in rows and columns in a serial or parallel reading mode.
The pixels are only biased for the read cycle to avoid self heating issues. The Read-Out IC carries out the reading of the rows and columns plus, in some Microbolometers, it handles timing functions and analogue to Digital conversion of the signal coming from the read-out matrix. The ROIC may be quite specialist in its content, but it is not the limiting factor in maximum frame rate, nor is it something that would lead to performance binning of finished modules. Self heating can be an issue with the ROIC but is not a great issue at 30fps or 60fps.

Where binning is concerned, I can advise that such is not applied to the FLIR cameras. All of their Microbolometers have to achieve a minimum standard of functionality to be used in a camera. This usually relates to the number of functional pixels and not read out IC performance. FLIR offer a 10 year warranty on their Microbolometers and have no interest in sub spec units ending up in their cameras. One of the challenges in Microbolometer production is achieving an industry standard acceptable percentage of functioning pixels and, where dead pixels are concerned, a maximum number of pixels in failure in a particular defined area. It is the creation of the Microbolometer pixels that is challenging and not really the ROIC that resides behind the die.

The read out limitation of a Microbolometer is, in reality, set by the physics of the pixels and associated read-out capacitors. It is well known that many thermal cameras that are limited to less than 9fps actually output 30fps or 60fps to the video processing stages. The exact nature of how the <9fps limit is imposed is what I cannot comment on. There are several ways to achieve it in an effective manner. Some are better for the cameras end user experience than others.

So now you know, the Ex series and Exx series both output high frame rate data from the Microbolometer. If you look at Mike’s Teardown and investigation videos you will see him discovering this with an oscilloscope. That does not help you with circumventing the frame rate limitation though. You could build a new video processing stage to create a high frame rate camera but you would basically be rebuilding the camera to do so.

This is where my commentary must stop though  ;)

All the best

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 30, 2019, 10:53:33 pm
My associate is busy hacking the sensor driver and maybe we can even sign it.
Makes me think what type of job you do on the ATMs for living   >:D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on October 01, 2019, 11:16:17 am
Took a look under a microscope and indeed the sensor was dirty and already scratched. The spot comes from something that is embedded in the material  :palm: looks shiny and there's no way to remove it without scratching. I tried special sensor glue sticks, special brushes .... I'll upload later some more images with the stain . the metal iris in not in focus bcs FF is like 0.5 mm @ 25X

@ BUD
Did u try running the MVT (+MCT) on any Ex/Exx machines?

<Makes me think what type of job you do on the ATMs for living> I'm more on the penetrations/sniffing part, most fascinating job.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 01, 2019, 12:02:25 pm
Wow! That is one seriously dirty Microbolometer window !

I have not seen one that badly contaminated in an E4 before. Most unusual and unexpected.

The window is made from silicon on that unit. I have read a FLIR service bulletin regarding minor scratches on the window and advice to be provided to customers who query such. Basically FLIR consider minor scratching on these units Microbolometers “normal” and state that because they are not in focus, they are not seen and any anomalies caused by them are captured and countered during factory calibration.

I have seen small chips/defects in Microbolometer Windows, minor scratching and dirt stuck to the surface but not something actually embedded in the surface. That would be like arc welding splash !

In a case such as this we can consider all cleaning options. You have tried specialist optical cleaning approaches common in modern DSLR sensor cleaning. Many such cleaning solutions are too ‘gentle’ !
The Microbolometer window is not as fragile as I once thought and, with due care, can tolerate more ‘aggressive’ cleaning approaches on the less expensive cameras. I would be hesitant to use them on a very expensive thermal camera as there is more at stake and the high quality sensor windows are normally pretty much perfect when they come out of the factory. Your window already has minor scratching but nothing serious. Whilst I note your comment regarding the particle being embedded in the window, I recommend you ret to dissolve it or release its bond to the window. There is low risk in my approach but I am also minded that removing the particle could create an anomaly if the camera was calibrated with that particle present. Decisions, Decisions, Decisions !

If I wanted to ‘deep clean’ that window I would normally remove the Microbolometer from the camera to have easy access to the whole Microbolometer module. I would then soak a piece of cotton wool in IPA and gently drag it across the window to thoroughly wet the surface. I would repeat this operation several times and inspect the result under magnification. Likely most dirt will be removed by this simple action and the window may be VERY gently ‘polished’ using a soft microfibre cloth intended for optics. If no great pressure is applied, scratching is unlikely. If there was a stubborn dirt particle remaining on the window I would not go to the ‘polishing’ stage ! If it broke away under the cloth it could cause a nasty scratch ! I would ‘attach’ that particle with a cotton bud (used for ear cleaning) that is soaked in distilled water to gently rub the particle to see if it will release. If no change, I would advance to IPA on the cotton bud, followed by pure Acetone (not nail polish remover as it can contain other ‘stuff’). With some very gentle wetting and rubbing, most particles will lift off of the surface. That is, unless they have become a part of the surface through some unusual event.

It us your decision but remember, the Ex series have a 10 year warranty on the Microbolometer so you could consider making a claim under that warranty as this is a production defect. If the area is visible with the camera in its native resolution, you should have no problem making a claim.

Regards

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on October 01, 2019, 12:30:53 pm
That would be like arc welding splash !
not only a helpful member of this forum but also a clairvoyant... see the pic with the splash. 3 zones 7,6 and 2 o'clock
7,6 zones looks like splashed glue 2 looks like a weld drop. Idk if I should send this pic to Flir/.... 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 01, 2019, 01:37:03 pm
@ BUD
Did u try running the MVT (+MCT) on any Ex/Exx machines?
Have no clue what that is. Answer is no.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on October 01, 2019, 01:59:23 pm
more pics
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on October 01, 2019, 02:00:23 pm
sensor pic
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on October 01, 2019, 02:28:52 pm
If returning the camera is an option, I personally would return it. If not, I would look to FLIR customer services for assistance. Make sure they realise that you know your way around thermal cameras and such a contaminated Microbolometer window is unacceptable, no matter which model of camera it is. Do not worry too much if there is some evidence of access inside the camera. The returns centre appear non too interested unless there is obvious abuse when they open the parcel. Options open to you may be a replacement camera or a repair. If a repair is accepted, FLIR will either replace the whole system board, including Microbolometer, fit a new Microbolometer, or clean the original part (if possible) and carry out the calibration routine again to update the NUC table.

I forget whether your camera is new or bought second hand. FLIR normally want sight of the original sales receipt but, as you know, the camera is less than 10 years old so they should be reasonable about an issue with a Microbolometers window defect

Hope this works out OK for you

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on October 01, 2019, 06:36:54 pm
Fraser, camera was a gift from a partener in order to see if there are some weak points visible from outside on some specific machines that got hacked via RF abuse. I can put the camera back, there's absolutely no abuse visible at all (I have used pDCPD tools) so no scratches on screws. I only need to Un-liberate it. I could ask for the original invoice, but it would make me look like a choosing beggar :clap:. I looked with higher magnification and the silicon is not smooth at all, it has a rough surface. No antistatic coating also. I'll try calling them tomorrow, never had to deal with Flir customer service.
On the other side I caught an very interesting call on wince(via MCT) about a certain serial from rom, I'd bet that's what neuteres the ex vs exx. I'll spend the night digging further. Microsoft has some very nice tools to a trace anything on Wince.

Al








Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: negative_feedback on October 01, 2019, 06:46:02 pm
I'll spend the night digging further. Microsoft has some very nice tools to a trace anything on Wince.

First try to patch NAG screen. kthxbye  :-DD
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: agiorgitis on October 01, 2019, 07:16:35 pm
I'd bet that's what neuteres the ex vs exx.
Any chance that this will help liberate Ex5 too?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: negative_feedback on October 01, 2019, 08:23:12 pm
I'd bet that's what neuteres the ex vs exx.
Any chance that this will help liberate Ex5 too?

Fraser said those models are new and sport Linux instead of WinCE. I doubt he can do anything, ATMs run Windows  :phew:.

--

I have a question about settings from Advanced Package 3.12 (3.16) on E4:

- In Settings -> Measurement parameters -> Alignment distance: " there are values from 0.10 to 1. They are applied to the image when selected but not acknowledged by the Menu both here or in pop-up menu (where we can read old value, 1.5 for example).

Is this a feature for close-up shooting or a bug?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 01, 2019, 09:06:07 pm
It is not a nag screen. It is a mitigating measure to protect unsuspecting buyers from being taken advantage of by the people wanting to make a quick buck. The buyers may naturally want to upgrade their new toy to the latest firmware and chances are they will end up with a brick. There are already failed upgrade stories in this thread lately. And it is one's guess what the user will experience if one day wants/needs to call the support line with questions about their camera features. Found a way to address the screen - great, but please keep it to yourself and not release it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 01, 2019, 09:09:14 pm
- In Settings -> Measurement parameters -> Alignment distance: " there are values from 0.10 to 1. They are applied to the image when selected but not acknowledged by the Menu both here or in pop-up menu (where we can read old value, 1.5 for example).

Is this a feature for close-up shooting or a bug?
That is a limitation, i think i talked about it before.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: FlirAl on October 02, 2019, 11:56:55 am
Quote

First try to patch NAG screen. kthxbye  :-DD
That's a warning not to use the official update path as it will/could render your device to a paperweight. Why would you do that is beyond my understanding. Are u selling updates on Ebay?

Does anyone here know which other series share the Ex sensors (   chipset would be nice but maybe I can dig it up somewhere)?

Al
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: negative_feedback on October 02, 2019, 04:03:58 pm
Quote

First try to patch NAG screen. kthxbye  :-DD
That's a warning not to use the official update path as it will/could render your device to a paperweight. Why would you do that is beyond my understanding. Are u selling updates on Ebay?

Does anyone here know which other series share the Ex sensors (   chipset would be nice but maybe I can dig it up somewhere)?

Al

That was sarcasm. You went streight for firmware, instead try to contribute with something less "obvious".

Back to the topic. Has anybody tried a Hash Collision Attack against target files? CRC is prone to collisions.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: street8487 on November 19, 2019, 12:33:39 am
Flir E4 WIFI  2.0l fm 3.16.0 2019

 |O |O
My E4 WIFI is stuck on the loading screen. I have tried the recovery method listed on this thread. I used 'set_RNDIS_temporary.fif.'

This is what FLIR Install 2 showed.

Received shell command message:
FLIR Command Line Interpreter
Version 0.4.3 running on WinCE 6.0

\>
Connected
Installation started...
Camera command usbfn RNDIS
Timeout waiting for camera response
Camera update completed

Ok

I was able to ping the unit. I then used WinSCP. Set to FTP, used listed IP Address, and listed user/password info.

I get  "No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.
Connection failed."

i am using a laptop with Windows 10 Home. I restarted the laptop after installing all these programs.

Anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong??

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 19, 2019, 04:11:41 am
Is your laptop connected to a network? There may be already a device on the network with 192.168.0.2 address, causing a conflict. Unplug your laptop from the network before running the recovery procedure.

Edit: better disable all of the network adapters on the laptop as it may connect to the network through WiFi.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: street8487 on November 19, 2019, 03:40:23 pm
I disabled all of the network adapters, and tried again. I keep getting the same  "No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. Connection failed."

This laptop is running windows 10 home. I tried using VirtualBox running Windows 7, but i can only run x64. Going to try that again. From what ive read, Windows 7 and XP work with this. 

At this point i just want the unit back to factory working condition.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 21, 2019, 05:45:53 am
Try uploading the attached file using FlirInstallNet. Do Not power on the camera when doing this. Remove the trailing ".zip" from the filename extension so the file is named 316.fif (the forum software did not allow .fif extension in attachments).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: street8487 on November 21, 2019, 11:07:36 pm
OMG!!

 :phew:

I used your file and she booted. Its working again!

Ive been stressing about this all week. I will be donating to this site.. i see you posted on how to do that too.

Thanks for all of your help :-+ :-+

Really do appreciate the help.

Thanks again
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: darix362 on November 22, 2019, 11:02:12 pm
Hey,

a few days ago i got my brand new Flir E5-xt (extended temperature range) with SW 3.16 and HW 2.1L. Is it still possible to hack this HW-Version with Bud's hack including the common_dll_3.16-file?
I am wondering about the new HW 2.1L and if the provided files in the forum are the right one for that?
Did someone tried the resolution and menu hack with the new HW?

I hope, you could help me.

Best regards
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: street8487 on November 25, 2019, 05:31:37 am
I wonder what kind of sensor the new xt versions are using. I see they didnt release an E4-xt. Does anyone know what the temperature range on a modded E4 is anyways?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 25, 2019, 05:56:27 am
Same as the original E4. Try to measure temperature of your soldering iron.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: darix362 on November 29, 2019, 09:47:50 pm
So could the provided files work with the new xt models with HW 2.1L or would it be a bad idea to try this?

Would it help, if i could upload the common.dll & conf.cfg from the e5 xt?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2019, 12:30:17 am
Just as you happy owners of the liberated E4 thought you've seen everything your camera is capable of, here comes your

The E4 Christmas pack

A cool feature called User Presets, which adds more camera features. With user presets You define your own measurement presets. You select which measurement instruments to use, a combination of the measurement instruments, and even a number of instruments, i.e. you can have more than 1 box in combination with more than 1 spots, etc.
This feature also adds more measurements instruments such as Circle (creates measurement area within a round area) and Line (measures temperature variation along a straight line edge to edge of the screen. Keep reading for details and examples.

This liberation mod was developed and tested on the E4 WiFi camera, software v3.9.0. It may work on other newer software versions for which the original liberation procedure worked. You will try at your own risk.

To activate this feature you need to modify your conf.cfc using the same decryption/encryption procedure as during the original liberation process to add a line into it, and upload one updated XML file which will be provided. As before, this post assumes you know how to connect to the camera to read and write files so no instructions will be provided for the connectivity part.

After the reboot the Main Settings menu will have a new "Define User Presets" menu which takes you to the screen to define two user presets:
[attachimg=1]

Clicking on a preset name takes you to the preset design screen. I made the screenshots using a USB port capture software and the scene image is visible. But on the camera screen there will be no scene displayed, the screen is blank and only the preset controls are visible. Not sure if this is a bug or a feature.
Every time right after you enter the preset definition screen, the cursor buttons on the camera are not responsive (must be a software bug), you have to press the center button or the trigger button to exit the screen and then go there again. This time the cursor buttons will work and you can make a selection to add a measurement.

[attachimg=2]

In the below example I added a Box, moved it to the top right area, resized the box to make it a bit smaller and then added a Max measurement to it using the control menu bar at the screen bottom.

[attachimg=3]

I then created a circle, resized it and added Max and Average measurements to it. Click Done icon to save changes to the profile.

[attachimg=4]

I then went ahead and created a Delta function (Circle Average minus Box Max). To do this I selected the Delta icon and scrolled through the selection values to create the desired function. The delta function screen gives you all the permutations available with the measurement controls you have set up. You can use Left-Right and Up-Down camera buttons to move between the controls and make your selection. Once completed, click the down arrow icon on the parent toolbar to save the changes.

[attachimg=5]

I then configured Preset 2 with a Line function. Line is a very cool feature which in displays a real time plot of temperature profile along the Line in addition to the numeric display. In this example I added a Line, positioned it and added Max, Min and Average measurement. The average measurement displays the average temperature along the Line.

[attachimg=6]

After the presets are defined in the Settings menu, you can go ahead and select Preset 1 or Preset 2 from the Measurements toolbar:

[attachimg=7]

Note that in the User Preset mode the two user presets replace the two righthand presets on the toolbar that were there before the mode. It is typically the Delta S and Delta T presets that get pushed out by the user presets. However, you can simply design one or the other in User Presets mode if you want them. You cannot rename User Presets however.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 26, 2019, 12:31:32 am
In order to implement the Christmas Pack you must have the following Pre-requisits:


Use the instructions in the attachment to implement the Christmas Pack  :-/O
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cream3000 on January 04, 2020, 07:36:31 am
Hi,
i have a E4 wifi with HW2.0 and FW3.16.
I successfully activated the highRes with the 3.16 common dll. When i transfer the files for the ui (ui_control.rsc and the xml files) it ends in a boot screen.
I can access the camera in rndis mode and i tried to replace the ui files by the original files. With the original files the camera boots up normally and works fine with the highRes.
I dont know what to do to get the extended menu and palletes / presets working.

I followed the instructions from basic 3.12 with wifi from a xp laptop.

It seems to be a problem with the ui files i think.

Do i need additional steps not written in the instructions file in the basic package?
PLS help.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on January 06, 2020, 02:12:41 pm
Hello, i'm new on forum. I have a question about Resolution and Menu hack.
I have a MODEL: E6 2.0L
S/N : 639027397
Part Number : 63902-0202
Software 3.16.0

Is possible hack to E8 ? The menu on the video I would like, exactly the same. It is possible ? Video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP8R7FRYU0k
Thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2020, 03:31:00 am
It seems to be a problem with the ui files i think.

Do i need additional steps not written in the instructions file in the basic package?

Nothing wrong with the files, dozens if not hundreds of people have implemented the mod over the last two years. Just one page back there was a post about successfully implementing it on v3.16. Typically the people who had problems eventually figured out they made errors on their side. Make sure you have only one version of the files on the camera (do not leave renamed backup files on the camera). Also verify timestamps and size on the copied files on the camera after copying.
There is no other instructions for doing the mod.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2020, 03:37:00 am
Software 3.16.0

Is possible hack to E8 ? The menu on the video I would like, exactly the same. It is possible ?

It is not possible to get the EXACT same menu as in the video. You will get a much better menu. You will need to start with the Basic package BUT you must use the correct common_dll.dll file for your version of software (3.16 in your case). You can find them in this thread. Read the thread carefully. You have to do your homework.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cream3000 on January 07, 2020, 07:04:51 am
Hi,

i tried it again from step 16.
After replacing the ui files the cam gets stuck on boot screen.
With the original files (ui control, design_ui, facet, toolbar-config) it boots normally with high res.

What else can i try or check?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2020, 11:06:58 pm
You can try rolling back the change, downgrade to 3.12 or 3.9 and do liberation on that firmware version.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 07, 2020, 11:09:25 pm
What makes you think you run on high res right now though, can you post a radiometric image?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cream3000 on January 08, 2020, 06:48:38 pm
You can try rolling back the change, downgrade to 3.12 or 3.9 and do liberation on that firmware version.

By using the Excomb_v3.12.0.fif file?
i will give it a try.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cream3000 on January 08, 2020, 06:50:54 pm
What makes you think you run on high res right now though, can you post a radiometric image?

i watched the image in flir tools. there was written at the resolution that it is high. i compared to some stock pictures at 80x60.

going to upload something the next days.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 08, 2020, 07:18:13 pm
You should go to the Archive on your camera and check image Thermal Resolution information there.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on January 08, 2020, 08:02:25 pm
Much better menu ? Is any preview of menu ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 08, 2020, 09:13:25 pm
You did not bother reading this thread?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sandro_Clegane on January 09, 2020, 01:30:46 am
Sup?

I'm not the guy you replied to, but I just wanted to say two things. Firstly, your work on this thread is amazing and I can't thank you enough. As someone who may purchase a Flir camera down the line this is priceless.

Secondly, reading through the WHOLE thread may be out of reach for some, I know it is for me, I get back home and only get about an hour or two to spare, there's 37 pages (and counting) here. Maybe a nice index/summary at the top of page one would be useful to avoid these kinds of questions in the future.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 09, 2020, 02:39:58 am
Thank you. But we are not running a business here with a customer support team. Forums are free flowing discussions and individual contributors who are just like you go to work every day. Readers who are determined get rewarded for their efforts. I knew at the very beginning people will start asking for it, and I said they will have to do their homework and will not be spoon fed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: cream3000 on January 09, 2020, 06:37:01 am
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You should go to the Archive on your camera and check image Thermal Resolution information there.

is it 320x240?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 09, 2020, 02:38:06 pm
This image is not from an E4, is it?
Secondly, this is a blended image (mix of thermal and visual)  it is hard to assess.
Thirdly, you have to check the image Properties or Information in the Archive on the camera. There is a screen that tells you the Thermal Resolution and visual image resolution.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 10, 2020, 04:23:39 am
I guess you provided an image after you loaded it in Flir software and playing around with it. Here is the extracted raw thermal image, it is 320x240.

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on January 12, 2020, 09:26:02 am
Ok, i have a upgrade menu, but add sketch in edit mode is not work good, cannot draw sketch. Whats a problem ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 12, 2020, 07:40:42 pm
The problem is you did not say what your problem is.

Edit: I've noticed you said your camera is E6. This thread and the liberation procedure is for E4 camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ScopeGuardPony on January 13, 2020, 10:08:48 pm
Brand new user/brand new owner.

Got an E4 2.0L w/3.16.0 firmware from Amazon today, and for those still thinking about buying one I purchased what I THOUGHT was Non-Wifi (s'what it said on https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0115XR01C/ (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0115XR01C/))

I was pleasantly surprised to see "Wifi" on the box label, so either I got lucky or Amazon's goofing when it comes to their models.   The part # on mine is 63906-0604.

Currently browsing go through the thread to find all the files/instructions necessary with the 3.16 version.   Already snagged the Common DLL and backed up everything with WinSCP (Filezilla refused to work with Drag & Drop), so it's on to trying to do the configuration files next.

Wish me luck.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ScopeGuardPony on January 14, 2020, 01:14:29 am
Welp, got the resolution hack working, attempted to upload the christmas pack however the design_ui.xml doesn't exist in the 3.16.0 edition, only design_ui_z3.xml.

Edited the code of that one, uploaded aaaaaand..    stuck on boot screen.

I've gotten everything backed up including that file, but due to it being stuck on the loading screen it won't connect to WIFI, however FlirInstall is still operational.

So if anyone has a FIF that could replace FlashBFS\system\ui.d\design_ui_z3.xml that'd be faaaantastic because that is really all I need.

Edit:  Nevermind I got iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

Recalled that a FIF file is just a renamed .zip file with a command file along with the files that are to be replaced, so I created my own zip file and edited the Camera.cmd file to match what was needed.   Said my prayers, fired it up, watched in anticipation as the splash screen appeared...     and then after a flicker the splash screen with the "This Product is subject to US Export Regulations" popped up.

Needless to say, I did a rather..  boisterous cheer.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 14, 2020, 07:51:10 am
Sounds like you did not do the Advanced pack before trying the Christmas pack? The instructions for the Christmas pack say the Advanced pack is a pre-requisit.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ScopeGuardPony on January 14, 2020, 04:59:21 pm
I did, actually.  Added medical.pal/toolbar-config.xml/etc.

I think I may have ended up not doing the Basic the whole way as there was no design_ui.xml when I did it, only design_ui_z3.xml which came with the camered.  Adding design_ui.xml in the Advanced made no difference.

MY dumb self opened both files in Notepad++ (highly recommended software, btw) but I only really skimmed through so I noticed only a couple differences in the coding (and dimissing that one was 20kb larger than the other) before renaming the Christmas Pack design_ui.xml to design_ui_z3.xml and uploaded, and that's what caused it to freeze.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 14, 2020, 05:18:26 pm
The instructions for the Advanced pack say the Basic one have to be installed first. Your problem was because you jumped all over the place making assumptions.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 14, 2020, 05:38:45 pm
To new users:

follow the instructions to the letter to save yours and everyone else's time. If there are Pre-requisite requirements, do them first, they were put there for a reason. Any deviations and you are on your own.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ScopeGuardPony on January 14, 2020, 05:42:45 pm
Indeed.   Tends to happen when I get excited about something (and when I have multiple things open at the same time) so I can lose my place.

...On another note, is it normal for the device to pause for 'Calibrating.." every thirty seconds or so during use?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on January 15, 2020, 06:47:02 pm
ok, is possible set RNDIS from menu permanent ? I flash RNDIS permanent, but not select USB mode, still RNDIS. What is wrong ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 16, 2020, 08:11:51 am
You cant change USB/RNDIS from the menu. Flir disabled that long time ago. This has nothing to do with the mod.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 16, 2020, 08:14:28 am
...On another note, is it normal for the device to pause for 'Calibrating.." every thirty seconds or so during use?
Whe you start the camera it does it often but as the camera warms up calibration becomes less often.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kontrollturm on January 16, 2020, 07:37:01 pm
Worked perfectly for me with an 2.0L / 3.16 in Germany. I also liberated an E50 / 4.12 to higher resolution. Amazing!  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Maxxpower on January 18, 2020, 06:04:59 pm
Please forgive me in advance if I ask a dumb question that has already been answered but there are a few E4 threads with hundreds of posts...
I have an E4 wifi that I successfully hacked (E4 2.0L 3.16)
Before the hack, the pictures saved on the device were 320x240 pixels, after the hack the images are still 320x240 pixels.
Is this correct?
Everything tells me the hack was successful but now I'm confused.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 18, 2020, 06:37:08 pm
The Ex series always produce a 320 x 240 pixel output, no matter what the the actual thermal image resolution may be. It is just upscaling. The true thermal image resolution may be seen in the FLIR Tools program in the image properties. If such shows 80 x 60, you know the resolution is not increased above a standard E4, if 320 x 240, the upgrade has worked and you have QVGA resolution on the E4.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 18, 2020, 06:46:22 pm
Your images do not look like 320 x 240 thermal images to my eyes. Turn off the MSX overlay to see just the thermal image without the visible light detail That makes the image look better than it really is in the thermal domain.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Maxxpower on January 18, 2020, 07:06:57 pm
Top image is E4, bottom image is E4+ I do see in the Flir Tools that the IR resolution is 320x240 in the newer images so that's good...I guess I was just expecting a bigger improvement in image quality. There is now a Chinese camera on Amazon for ~550USD that comes with 320x240 IR resolution so not sure this hacking is worth the trouble anymore :(
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 18, 2020, 07:27:44 pm
The E4 remains an excellent performer. Remember that it is equipped with a fixed focus lens so taking pictures at close range of a PCB normally requires the use of a close-up lens as detailed on this forum or adjustment of the E4 lens focus with a 3D printed tool. The second image is nowhere near the image quality that I get from my E4. Something is not right in that image. There is normally a massive difference in the change from 80 x60 pixels to 320 x 240 pixel resolution. Just look at peoples pictures from upgraded E4 cameras on this forum.

Try imaging something like a hot cup of water and a piece of electronics with air vents. That should show the thermal detail available. Switch off the MSX and ensure that you are far enough away from the target to have decent focus. Regarding many Chinese offerings...... I advise caution as they can be a very mixed bag and are not normally in the same league as a good FLIR camera (The FLIR One is not such a camera !)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2020, 07:39:01 pm
Judging on the spot cursor size the second image was taken at x2 or x4 zoom.  Switch to x1 zoom, take a shot, press the Archive button on the camera, open the image and see what Thermal Resolution property says.

Edit: yup, just noticed x2 right in the second image top.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2020, 07:52:03 pm
Also as Fraser said, E4 is not well suitable for close up imaging. There are settings in the liberated E4 that reduce MSX alignment to as short distance as 10cm but in general E4 minimum distance to the test object is about 60cm.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Maxxpower on January 18, 2020, 07:55:25 pm
Here are a few more 1X pictures, I cropped out the PCB logo in one of them ;)
My MSX settings only goes down to 0.3M
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Maxxpower on January 18, 2020, 07:57:17 pm
Can someone link a good zoom lens to buy?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2020, 08:45:49 pm
Those are good 320x240 images.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Maxxpower on January 18, 2020, 10:36:36 pm
Thank you all for your help :) I understand now the difference between the IR resolution and image resolution.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on January 19, 2020, 09:10:17 am
@Bud, thanks for info and  a little notice about all. I have a E6 (modded to E8). All Ex series are more or less the same, so I ask things about E6 (E8) in this thread. But I was intrigued by this
Code: [Select]
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:197580 and this
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https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:407201. I'm not quite sure about Focus adjuster. What exactly does that mean? and the other lens holder is for what?

Thanks for answers.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bill W on January 19, 2020, 10:43:04 am
I'm not quite sure about Focus adjuster. What exactly does that mean? and the other lens holder is for what?

Thanks for answers.

Focus adjuster is a tool to allow you to focus the camera lens.  With that you can rotate the camera lens, undo for closer focus.  Use of scissors or pliers is not recommended, hence these tools.

Lens holder holds an additional lens to give a close focus depending on the lens used.
I assume it is for one of the common ZnSe single element lenses available on eBay.

Bill
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 20, 2020, 02:58:50 am
This is the lens holder I am using (3D printed at a local shop). The lens is from eBay, I believe it was 75mm focal distance.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 20, 2020, 03:02:35 am
@Bud, thanks for info and  a little notice about all. I have a E6 (modded to E8). All Ex series are more or less the same, so I ask things about E6 (E8) in this thread.

I do not have an E6 and, not being able to test/replicate issues on one,  I will not be responding to such questions.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on January 20, 2020, 03:26:41 pm
@Bud, thanks for info and  a little notice about all. I have a E6 (modded to E8). All Ex series are more or less the same, so I ask things about E6 (E8) in this thread.

I do not have an E6 and, not being able to test/replicate issues on one,  I will not be responding to such questions.

all Ex series are more or less the same, so I don't understand a bit why such a reaction due to E6 when it is similar ...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: lou on January 22, 2020, 09:41:54 pm
@Bud, thanks for info and  a little notice about all. I have a E6 (modded to E8). All Ex series are more or less the same, so I ask things about E6 (E8) in this thread.

I do not have an E6 and, not being able to test/replicate issues on one,  I will not be responding to such questions.

all Ex series are more or less the same, so I don't understand a bit why such a reaction due to E6 when it is similar ...

I can report that I was able to liberate my E5 2.0 with 3.16.0.  I used the files at: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359) The instructions are in the read me files.   Post 788 has the file for the updated common_dll 3.16 instead of the one in the pack.  The hardest part was using python in step 7.  It was all about getting the correct directory selected to run python and generate the new conf.cfc.  I did not find in necessary to edit the config.cfg file to change E4 to E5. 
Thanks and KUDOS to Bud and all the other contributors.

Lou
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: abakis on February 08, 2020, 11:59:52 am
I was able to successfully (liberate) turn an E4 2.0L 3.16.0 WIFI toy I recently (2/4/20) purchased from Amazon into a tool following Lou's research (post #938) on Bud's much appreciated contributions. It may have been a mistake only I'll see the benefit of, but I ordered the non-wifi version and received the wifi version when I purchased.

I've done some programming and have used Linux on my old machines since the late 90s, so I wouldn't consider myself as an average user, but I've never really used python before and fully agree step 7 took the most time for me. I ended up installing python 2.7.0 to the same directory I had my .cfg file in to make it work. It took me a little less than 3hrs to complete, but it was definitely worth it. I've attached before/after MSX images to show an example of the improvement.



I'll definitely be donating to support the cause.

Running Windows 10 Pro x64 for the install.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 08, 2020, 04:33:30 pm
You may have better picture quality if you simply copy the images from the camera to your computer, not importing into Flir software, which postprocesses pictures and as a result washes them out and puts the logo back.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: craig penfold on February 08, 2020, 09:36:41 pm
Hi bud. Thanks to you and all that have made the mods to the E4 possible. I have had one issue with the Christmas pack update. I could not see the preset icons 1 and 2 in the main preset selection menu. The update had removed the delta presets but not replaced them with the new 1 and 2 user preset icons. I could set measurement presets in the editing menu then click save and it would take me back to the main screen with the user preset visible on screen and ready to use. But once I selected another preset it would dissappear until I repeated the process. I do have the E5 non wifi with 2.0L  3.12 so it may be because it was not tested on this model. The fix I had to apply was editing the toolbar-config.xml file. By adding 2 lines to the measurement menu.
I added these 2 lines
<Toolbar name="measure_user_1"/>
<Toolbar name="measure_user_2"/>
Hopefully if anyone else has had this issue then this will help fix it. I have also found that when you have entered the user preset menu and it's the  black screen background, if you turn the camera to standby and then back on the ir screen is visible to help set the presets you need.


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 10, 2020, 05:21:02 am
Great tips, thank you !
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: duburban on February 11, 2020, 04:26:18 pm
Hey all, Just joined to check in on this E4 upgrade hack.

With years having past is this hack aging well?

Is there any reason to buy a Flir E8 over a hacked E4?

I'm ready to buy my first imager, all help appreciated,

daviduburke@gmail.com

Thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: abakis on February 12, 2020, 03:56:14 am
Post #941 by craig penfold helped me get the Christmas Pack acceptably functional on an E4 2.0L 3.16.0 wifi - the user defined functions are great for my use so I really appreciate that. After I installed the Christmas Pack I lost a bunch of measurement choices (more than I expected to lose) and was left with far less Measurement choices than I had with the advanced pack:
1. No measurements
2. Center spot
3. Hot spot
4. Cold spot

After following craig penfold's guidance, I fiddled around with the toolbar-config.xml file and old conf.cfg file (duplicating what appeared to be higher max measurement counts in the conf.cfg from the Basic pack before running the python script on the Advanced pack). I first thought that the amount of Measurement choices was limiting the amount Measurement choices available via the menu, so I went into the toolbar-config.xml file and put in nav groups like I saw in the palettes to add a second line or selections and although it wasn't successful for my aims, I did get two lines in the Measurement sub-menu - this minor tidbit may help someone (although it seems self-evident to anyone digging like I was) moving forward so I shared. See the attached jpg if you're curious on that note. I ultimately removed this modification in the end.

Long story short, although I'll admit I could've easily made a mistake in following instruvtions I ended up with the following Measurement choices on a Flir E4 2.0L 3.16.0 wifi model after applying the basic, advanced, and Christmas packs:

1. Basic - flawless with 3.16.0 common_dll.dll file.
2. Advanced - apparently flawless (although short-lived on my camera, so I may have missed something) following instructions included in the pack.
3. Christmas - lost several measurement options, but gained user presets only accessible from fiddling with the settings menu presets section.
4. Christmas plus craig penfold's additional lines - have the following (with seemingly fully functional preset items available for a selection):
      1. No measurements
      2. Center spot
      3. Hot spot
      4. Cold spot
      5. User preset 1
      6. User preset 2

(Color) Palette options:
      1. Iron
      2. Rainbow
      3. Rainbow high contrast
      4. Medical
      5. White hot
      6. Black hot
      7. Arctic
      8. Lava
      9. Above alarm
      10. Below alarm
      11. Interval alarm
      12. Condensation alarm
      13. Insulation alarm

I'll also note "Object distance:" has been added to the Image mode sub-menu, and I now have "Time lapse" + "Sport" added to Recording mode. The settings menu has almost too much added to note.

Overall, very pleased with the results. I can make presets that replace just about any of the measurements I lost easily, except for the 5 spots along a straight line which was limited in usefulness for my purposes anyway. When setting presets, the IR and optical images are fully blacked out for what it’s worth. Also, I did the telnet “stopapp” command where the 2nd entry always seemed to do the trick, powered off and pulled the battery prior to checking all results after updating.

As for the recent question as to whether the E4 is worth purchasing over the E8 with the “aged” packs, I can’t say I’ve tried an E8, but it seems to me the E4 is still the viable budget choice.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: pds on February 17, 2020, 10:22:37 pm
Hi, first post - Just wanted to thank Bud, Fraser for sharing. Successfully upgraded Flir E5-xt model 2.1L firmware 3.16.0.    :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on February 17, 2020, 11:17:08 pm
This is Buds work  :-+

No thanks are due to me  ;)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sitongec on February 18, 2020, 06:03:11 am
Hi, first post - Just wanted to thank Bud, Fraser for sharing. Successfully upgraded Flir E5-xt model 2.1L firmware 3.16.0.    :-+
Really? What method do you use? Thank you

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: pds on February 18, 2020, 11:51:49 am
Hi sitongec,

Used WiFi only on Windows 10. 

Then used the Basic then Advanced Package for E4 WiFi 2.0L, fw v3.12.0 from BUD's post #478.  Didn't use the common _dll though; used the common_dll_3.16.0 from BUD's post #788.

Just downloaded the ZIPs and followed the readme file.  One thing that might help is just remember to put the python file and config file in the same location as python is installed - in my case the C drive.  Run PowerShell as Admin to run the python script.

The Christmas pack that BUD posted works also.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sitongec on February 19, 2020, 02:25:30 am
Hi sitongec,

Used WiFi only on Windows 10. 

Then used the Basic then Advanced Package for E4 WiFi 2.0L, fw v3.12.0 from BUD's post #478.  Didn't use the common _dll though; used the common_dll_3.16.0 from BUD's post #788.

Just downloaded the ZIPs and followed the readme file.  One thing that might help is just remember to put the python file and config file in the same location as python is installed - in my case the C drive.  Run PowerShell as Admin to run the python script.

The Christmas pack that BUD posted works also.
HI PDS

Thank you very much for your useful reply. I'm ready to use your method to update my E5. Thank you and BUD again.

Best regards
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: darix362 on February 22, 2020, 11:27:28 am
Hey there,

today i successfully liberated my E5xt HW 2.1L FW 3.16 with the provided packages (basic and advanced, christmas not tried).
Thanks a lot to Bud for his work and to PDS for testing the E5xt.

But there ist one more thing i noticed: So the E5xt should have an extended temperature range from -10 to 400 °C next to -20 to 250 °C. With the Advanced package the extended temperature range is gone in menu. I only can choose the normal range from -20 to 250.

So i hope we could find a fix for that. I which file are the ranges written down, did someone know that?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Weston on February 22, 2020, 07:51:33 pm
Just to check, is there any version of the E4 wifi which can not be upgraded? I was considering ordering a new one from TEquipment and applying the hack.

There is a guy on ebay that applies the hacks as a service and he claims that the E4 wifi HW 2.1L can not be unlocked, but it seems that people are unlocking HW 2.1L cameras. Does that only work starting from a E5xt instead of the E4?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 22, 2020, 09:15:41 pm
This entire thread is for E4. Just the previous page contains several references to E4 2.1L if you bother to read. Let the eBay guy do what he is doing,the Karma will find him  ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Weston on February 22, 2020, 11:05:48 pm
I really appreciate the work you do on this Bud, it must be frustrating to have some random guy on ebay profit on it.

I have searched the thread and read the last 10 pages or so. The only reference I can find to the 2.1L hardware revision is pds and darix362 upgrading their E5xt cameras, nothing about the E4. Does a E4 wifi 2.1L hardware revision even exist / is the E5xt similar enough to the E4 where it does not make a difference?

The procedure for upgrading the camera seems simple enough, I just wanted to check if anything has changed recently in terms of software or hardware revisions. I guess if I receive a camera with a new hardware/software revision that will not work I can always return it, but it would be great if that could be avoided.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 23, 2020, 07:28:59 am
If the hardware is of a same revision then there is no reason same changes would not work I think.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sitongec on February 27, 2020, 01:20:00 am
Hey there,

today i successfully liberated my E5xt HW 2.1L FW 3.16 with the provided packages (basic and advanced, christmas not tried).
Thanks a lot to Bud for his work and to PDS for testing the E5xt.

But there ist one more thing i noticed: So the E5xt should have an extended temperature range from -10 to 400 °C next to -20 to 250 °C. With the Advanced package the extended temperature range is gone in menu. I only can choose the normal range from -20 to 250.

So i hope we could find a fix for that. I which file are the ranges written down, did someone know that?
Hi darix362
                I have the same problem. I use the basic method of bud. I tried to solve the problem. I compared the original and replacement files of e5xt, and found that the file about temperature range is "design ui.xml", and it’s reference file is "ui_control.rsc". I tried to make such a change, changing"\flashbfs\system\ui. d\design_ui.xml" in UI_control.RSC file to "\flashbfs\system\ui.d\design_ui*.XML". Change the name of the design_ui.xml file, such as design_ui_hak.xml, copy the "design_ui_z3.xml" & "design_ui_z3ets.xml" from the backup, and then hard restart.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: darix362 on February 28, 2020, 11:59:16 pm
So you changed the line "\FlashBFS\system\ui.d\design_ui.xml" in the file "ui_control.rsc" from the basic/advanced package to \FlashBFS\system\ui.d\design_ui*.xml"? Does it work for you without any other glitches?

Did the Camera know, which file she had to use, because for me the "*" looks like a placeholder for the files "design_ui_z3.xml" & "design_ui_z3ets.xml" or did she use all 3 files? Maybe the camera uses the first file recognising and "design_ui_hak.xml" comes at first.

The files "design_ui_z3.xml" & "design_ui_z3ets.xml" didn't changed during basic and advanced package or am i wrong?

Edit: Found the solution for the missing temperature range for the Ex-Series xt-Models:
In "design_ui.xml" add:

"<ui_model type="SettingsHorizontalModel" name="temperatureRangeSettingsModel" footerEnabled="true" backOnTrigger="1"
delegateType="valueSelector">
<ui_model type="TemperatureRangeSettingsModel" translations="footer"/>
</ui_model>"

after the following lines:

"<ui_model type="TemperatureRangeSettingsModel" name="temperatureRangeSettingsModel">
<ui_model_item type="SettingItem" ID="TEMP_RANGE" label="ID_SETUP_PROGRAMMABLE_TEMP_RANGE_BRIEF"/>
</ui_model>"
 
Now its possible to change the temperature range in the camera settings from "-20 - 250" to "10 - 400" °C.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sitongec on February 29, 2020, 06:51:16 am
yes more insurance.  u can change file name  "design_ui_hak.xml"  that is different from the wildcard or delete it.——this  only Test on my E5-XT Hw2.1 FW3.16
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 29, 2020, 07:01:24 am
Guys can you start a separate topic for E5 to avoid confusing other readers. Thanks.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ngzhang0 on March 04, 2020, 08:38:34 pm
So my camera was firmware 1.2L, software 2.8.
I put the camera in RNDIS mode and then realized I would need to downgrade to 2.3 software. I tried the link posted and it was dead.
So I installed the latest version of Flir Tools and saw there was a software update to 3.16, a known hackable version based on my reading.
I installed it and rebooted the camera. Everything seems fine, EXCEPT that I cannot connect to it via FTP. If I set the Flir RNDIS network adapter to an IP of 192.168.0.2, I can ping it, but I cannot live connect in Flir Tools. I get the error "CAMERA_RTREE_CONNECT ERROR" in the Log window.
When trying to run a FIF to remove RNDIS I get "RESPONSE_TIMEOUT" in FlirInstallNet

Thoughts?



I'm in the same situation, my CAM is E4,1.2 and firmware 3.16, I use FLIRInstallNet and Set_RNDIS_permament to set it in RNDIS model, but when I hard restart the CAM, it operations well but nobody can connect to the CAM via USB, include FLIRInstallNet, FTP or FLIR TOOLS, the IP address goes to 169.254.87.9. I manually set it to 192.168.1.7 and it response the ping but FTP and telnet to this address don't work, the host just closed the connection. FLIRInstallNet will recognize a device named like " network - 192.168.1.8" (yes, its 192.168.1.8, not 192.168.1.7). When trying to run a FIF to remove RNDIS I get "RESPONSE_TIMEOUT" in FlirInstallNet

I'm sick now  |O
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 05, 2020, 05:59:36 am
So my camera was firmware 1.2L, software 2.8.
I put the camera in RNDIS mode and then realized I would need to downgrade to 2.3 software. I tried the link posted and it was dead.
So I installed the latest version of Flir Tools and saw there was a software update to 3.16, a known hackable version based on my reading.
I installed it and rebooted the camera. Everything seems fine, EXCEPT that I cannot connect to it via FTP. If I set the Flir RNDIS network adapter to an IP of 192.168.0.2, I can ping it, but I cannot live connect in Flir Tools. I get the error "CAMERA_RTREE_CONNECT ERROR" in the Log window.
When trying to run a FIF to remove RNDIS I get "RESPONSE_TIMEOUT" in FlirInstallNet

Thoughts?

I'm in the same situation, my CAM is E4,1.2 and firmware 3.16, I use FLIRInstallNet and Set_RNDIS_permament to set it in RNDIS model, but when I hard restart the CAM, it operations well but nobody can connect to the CAM via USB, include FLIRInstallNet, FTP or FLIR TOOLS, the IP address goes to 169.254.87.9. I manually set it to 192.168.1.7 and it response the ping but FTP and telnet to this address don't work, the host just closed the connection. FLIRInstallNet will recognize a device named like " network - 192.168.1.8" (yes, its 192.168.1.8, not 192.168.1.7). When trying to run a FIF to remove RNDIS I get "RESPONSE_TIMEOUT" in FlirInstallNet

I'm sick now  |O

I do not think it would work if you manually change the IP of the RNDIS network adapter. What you should try is Windows XP (or a virtual machine running Windows XP). You have to achieve automatic assignment of the proper IP address (192.168.0.2 I believe). Windows 7 or Windows 10 may not correctly do it. WinXP does it correctly.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ngzhang0 on March 05, 2020, 07:08:28 am
Thanks, I will try it later. Maybe WIN10 is the problem.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: likuidphreon on March 17, 2020, 06:43:06 pm
Having spent a lot of time reading and searching, I am trying to determine the upgrade path for my E4 1.2L 3.12 camera. I see solutions for v 2.0 hardware, but I am not finding it for 1.2. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: darix362 on March 19, 2020, 03:44:33 pm
Hey, maybe you have to look in the old thread. You can start at page 1, but maybe this message could help you.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg1335853/?topicseen#msg1335853 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg1335853/?topicseen#msg1335853)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kkonline on April 08, 2020, 10:44:23 am
Guys,

I need some help about changing the model: E4 in the main unit camera information and also in the flir tools software (e4 wifi). :'(

Can someone show me some lights?

I have been trying to browse through every page but still didnt manage to find a way to do it.

Ready to donate. Thank you in advanced.


Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kkonline on April 08, 2020, 10:48:01 am
I saw someone was able to do it. I am still scratching my head how to do it after many days of research. Pls dhow dome lights.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on April 08, 2020, 11:15:38 am

If you really want to change the identity of the camera you need to do it in the eeprom. This is not part of the main system flash memory. You will need direct access to the eeprom to do this. As far as I can remember the changing of the cameras identity is not available to you via the standard upgrade processes. Early Ex series cameras with a Service menu can unlock the eeprom for editing but you do not have the service menu to do that.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: vinvin3128 on April 09, 2020, 02:02:36 pm
i gotta say thank you!! really gave me a big hand on fixing the stuff on my E4. Here is another problem. Would E4 maintain a function of including a black body in the camera's field of view so that it can improve the system's performance? i mean would it show variance before and after including a black body. Thank You.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KONNEX on April 09, 2020, 09:58:03 pm
I did it but this whole situation with 1000 pages is somewhat challenging.
Upgraded my new E5 1.2L with 2.11 successfully.

I know the following was asked some pages ago but maybe the situation has changes.
Is it possible or not to update 1.2L cam to Firmware e.g. 3.9? and apply the mods of Bud?

Or is everyone really against this as the risk is too high to brick something?

Question: Is it possible to have the cam running in RNDIS, UVC and MSD Mode?


EDIT:

NVM: I updated the cam to 3.9 in RDNIS mode (important) with the 3.9 FIF File over FlirInstallNet and it worked (I accepted all prompts)
Someone should just clearly make the statement that pretty much everything in the original thread is obsolete, except for the simple RDNIS FIF files.

Bud made great package and also the recovery guide (if in boot loop) safed my ...

I'm way too much of a noob in this field to recommend anything but I can say that my E5 with 1.2L is now on 3.9 (because of initial Upgradeway of Bud)

You start here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326)

FIF files for RDNIS (Just use the Folder: FLIRfif - the rest is outdated for the most part and especially 3.9)
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg921880/#msg921880 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg921880/#msg921880)

cfccfg_V2.zip
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg596959/#msg596959)

Full Update to 3.9
https://www.mediafire.com/file/z2e44uvzm99u9a7/v3.9.0__update_pack.zip/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/z2e44uvzm99u9a7/v3.9.0__update_pack.zip/file)

common_dll v 3.12
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)

common_dll v 3.16
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082)

Than back to start to the Basic, Advanced, (Christmas) files.



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: darix362 on April 14, 2020, 11:38:45 am
Is there a way to change the standby-/deep sleep times?

Cause when i turn off with short press power button, then cam is going to standby-mode for about 24 to 48 hours. If i turn it back on in between this time, it sometimes freezes or shows up an appcore error. After full restart everything seems fine like a normal boot after cold start (long press power button to shutdown).

Did someone experience the same problems?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KONNEX on April 17, 2020, 12:32:19 pm
2 questions:
1) How to enter the credit screen that bud implemented?

2) Using Iron or Rainbow with temp range.. and looking at objects like a house with the sky in the background (-40°) - how do I compensate the scale?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kkonline on April 22, 2020, 02:18:23 pm
Hi,

Can anyone mind to enlighten me why video streaming is particularly jerky for this enhanced E4 please?

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j772BDti2Wo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j772BDti2Wo)
2. See attachment for relevant spec.
3. Any solution to make the streaming smoother will be greatly appreciated. This does not seem to happen to earlier e4 batches.
4. Hope this post will help others as well.

Thank you so much.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 22, 2020, 02:44:22 pm
What do you mean by "enhanced" ? A newer product number?

Search this forum for E4 radiometric streaming, there was a Linux based application developed based on a hacked Libuvc.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kkonline on April 22, 2020, 02:50:34 pm
What do you mean by "enhanced" ? A newer product number?

Search this forum for E4 radiometric streaming, there was a Linux based application developed based on a hacked Libuvc.

Hi Bud. Enhanced E4 means the upgraded E4, The live-streaming video is jerky using the standard flir tools software through the E4 is jerky.. Any help will be appreciated.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 22, 2020, 03:02:47 pm
I can't see it upgraded. The upgraded E4 does not have the logo.

I do not use flir tools and can't help with it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on April 23, 2020, 07:09:05 am
I'm thinking of getting a Flir E4 with the goal to update it for full resolution.
No idea what version i would receive and if that will be possible.

My question is, is it possible to unsolder/dump out the flash contents so i have a known working state a could fall back on if i brick it?
Or is there some hardware features that makes that impossible.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KONNEX on April 24, 2020, 05:40:05 pm
2 questions:
1) How to enter the credit screen that bud implemented?
2) Using Iron or Rainbow with temp range.. and looking at objects like a house with the sky in the background (-40°) - how do I compensate the scale?

I just ask again ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 24, 2020, 06:22:03 pm
2) Using Iron or Rainbow with temp range.. and looking at objects like a house with the sky in the background (-40°) - how do I compensate the scale?

I just ask again ;)

2) not sure if this is what you mean, you can switch temperature scale to Manual and play with adjustment of low and high  limit separately or together.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kkonline on April 27, 2020, 04:01:02 pm
Hi everyone,

Thanks for this forum post once again. I have one newbie question here to ask any pro here.

1. When the surrounding temperature was 31c-32c, the e4 is showing object around 36.1.c.

2. But when it reaches noon time, the surrounding temperature got hotter (38c), the target temperature became higher (abnormal) at around 39c to 40c. Can anyone kind enough to explain the fluctuations in temperature?

3. The unit is being used outdoor. Noon time temp can reach 38c. Morning time is abour 31c-32c.


Thank you very much!

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 27, 2020, 04:39:44 pm
You need to adjust Emissivity, Ambient temperature and Reflected temperature settings.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kkonline on April 27, 2020, 04:43:41 pm
You need to adjust Emissivity, Ambient temperature and Reflected temperature settings.

Hi bud,

Do you mean when it reaches noon time, the ambient temperature needs to be adjusted accordingly? And to adjust it back during the morning?

Sincerely,
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 27, 2020, 10:28:38 pm
You should always match ambient and reflected temperature in Settings if you want better accuracy. These parameters represent vvariables into the object temperature  calculation formula.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Kkonline on April 28, 2020, 12:30:09 am
You should always match ambient and reflected temperature in Settings if you want better accuracy. These parameters represent vvariables into the object temperature  calculation formula.

I got it. Thank you so much bud. I learnt something new
 again today.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KONNEX on April 29, 2020, 04:09:21 pm
2) Using Iron or Rainbow with temp range.. and looking at objects like a house with the sky in the background (-40°) - how do I compensate the scale?

I just ask again ;)

2) not sure if this is what you mean, you can switch temperature scale to Manual and play with adjustment of low and high  limit separately or together.

In some kind of configuration I got a (cyan) limiter for the lower temperature (by accident) with iron, rainbow and other pallets which might be nice. But I'm not sure how I got it. The other Question is more a general question how to really messure object with the sky in the background? Just ignore it and post-process in flir tools? the sky is more or less always below 0. Or do I just have to adjust ambient temperatur and so on and my issue is gone?

Currently I have a much bigger problem. I overtightened the fixed Focus lense and scratched a ring (from the metal case/frame) in it.. this might wouldn't be much of a problem but now the Image of the sensor and camera do not match as the lense is shifted. Does anyone know how to fix that or get a replacement of the screwed in lense? |O

Edit: If I change "rset image.fusion.ypanvol"  to like 40 it's close..  but not "perfect" from other angels. - I will post pictures tomorrow

Edit2: Hm.. I'm pretty sure I somewhat broke the lense in some way (throug the pressure? - is it possible?) from the distance everything seems fine but in close ups the pictures are way off, like 2-3cm :/ - // Would it be enough to replace the lens and does someone know where to get it?

Edit3: Now I'm not so sure if anything is broken or it's just the distance which causes the shifting. - here some pictures:
- close shots (shifted)
- the scratched lense
- rainbow palet with a minimal range option?! - not sure how this happend but is somewhat nice.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: intef on April 30, 2020, 07:12:00 am
Success, E4 2.0L, non wifi, 3.12.0, fresh from RS components. Looks like a good specimen.
Code: [Select]
.calib.nrdp.ds250C_we_ap_fi_le.measureInfo.temporalMk double 11.611229
Already did some mods to qml's  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: mmame on May 11, 2020, 06:54:14 am
Sorry to ask a maybe already answered question, so...

Is there any worth to update the firmware from 3.9.0 to 3.16.0?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on May 12, 2020, 02:54:00 am
Edit3: Now I'm not so sure if anything is broken or it's just the distance which causes the shifting. - here some pictures:
- close shots (shifted)

Perhaps you tried just too close ? The stock E4 I believe minimal distance is 0.6m that it can correct for the parallax. Check the "Alignment distance" setting in Settings menu. The liberated E4 can go closer than 0.6m so make sure you set that parameter properly depending on the distance to the object you are trying top measure. The E4 does not have auto-alignment, it is up to the user.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Weston on June 11, 2020, 05:10:36 am
My flir E4 wifi arrived today and I the liberation procedure went smoothly! Thank you Bud for all the work do for the community on this!

For those looking on where to order the camera from, I ordered my flir E4 wifi from TEquipment a few months ago and it was backordered so it only recently shipped. The camera is hardware version 2.0L and software 3.16.0. The calibration card has a date of April 28, 2020, which is recent, so I would assume that there is no newer software than 3.16.0. I have not tried the advanced package yet.

For those not wanting to dig through endless pages of the thread:

I used the 3.12.0  files from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)

and the new 3.16.0 dll from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082)

and instructions on how to put the camera in RNDIS mode from here (I had problems with the website so I had to access it through web archive) https://web.archive.org/web/20190409142550/https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20190409142550/https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)

This was done on a windows 10 desktop.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Summer on June 16, 2020, 01:16:54 am
Here is a version of the Basic Package for E4 WiFi 2.0L, fw v3.12.0
I do not have a 3.12.0 device, so this version has not been tested.
YOU TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
=============

Update: Basic Package v3.12.0 is confirmed working.
Update: Advanced Package v3.12.0 is confirmed working.
Update August 2018: New camera version v3.13.0 confirmed working with this v3.12.0 Basic Package. See post here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1733972/#msg1733972 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1733972/#msg1733972)

my flir e4 HW 2.0L SW 3.9.0(hack) non wifi

can I use
Basic_3.12.0.zip
common_dll_3.12.0.zip
in flir e4 2.0L non wifi ?

thank you
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on June 16, 2020, 03:05:36 pm
I do not know.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: d2 on June 20, 2020, 08:19:52 pm
Just to confirm:

Westons summary works fine on E4 2.0L with 3.16.0 without WIFI.
Camera odered from RS components two days ago.

Thanks Bud for the great work! Thanks Weston for the summary!

Bye,
Daniel.

My flir E4 wifi arrived today and I the liberation procedure went smoothly! Thank you Bud for all the work do for the community on this!

For those looking on where to order the camera from, I ordered my flir E4 wifi from TEquipment a few months ago and it was backordered so it only recently shipped. The camera is hardware version 2.0L and software 3.16.0. The calibration card has a date of April 28, 2020, which is recent, so I would assume that there is no newer software than 3.16.0. I have not tried the advanced package yet.

For those not wanting to dig through endless pages of the thread:

I used the 3.12.0  files from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)

and the new 3.16.0 dll from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082)

and instructions on how to put the camera in RNDIS mode from here (I had problems with the website so I had to access it through web archive) https://web.archive.org/web/20190409142550/https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20190409142550/https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)

This was done on a windows 10 desktop.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ignat750 on June 24, 2020, 07:16:12 pm
Help, I want to buy flir e4, but I don’t know if anyone can flash it in flir e8? Or can only old versions of flir e4 be changed in e8?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on June 24, 2020, 07:21:09 pm
They all can be upgraded.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ignat750 on June 25, 2020, 03:52:43 am
Many thanks.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: ignat750 on June 25, 2020, 08:07:07 am
flir e4 wifi p/n: 63906-0604
change in e8+ ? And will it work well?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: abgx1 on June 29, 2020, 09:12:40 am
it should be OK, but I am gonna ask to be sure:

can I upgrade flir E5(2.0L with 3.16.0) with wifi to E8 with same process as E4(via watsons summary)?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Aaronm on August 08, 2020, 06:14:14 pm
Do you have the instructions step by step?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: lazarusr on August 15, 2020, 05:42:50 pm
Another very satisfied customer. Thanks Bud for all your work on this.  :-+ :clap:

(E4 2.0L with 3.16.0 without WIFI)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sakalas26 on August 20, 2020, 04:20:26 pm
Dear colleagues, i encountered this problem when i try to enter "stopapp" in the "Putty" telnet program window. Maybe someone was facing this problem?

Thanks.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 20, 2020, 05:58:26 pm
If you connect through USB you need to start from getting the camera generate the proper IP address (192.168.0.2 i believe). The IP address you connected to may not have the needed service. You may not be able to advance until you set the camera's network interface correctly.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sakalas26 on August 23, 2020, 12:27:30 pm
I am connecting via wi-fi. Setting the camera in the USB rndis mode, and then pinging the camera's IP by typing "ping IRCAM...." in cmd. I am able to connect to the camera using FileZilla, and then the fun part starts while using putty.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: victorhooi on August 30, 2020, 04:03:40 am
I have a Flir E4 Wifi, and I am trying to hack the resolution per Weston's summmary in this earlier post (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3093318/#msg3093318).

Unfortunately, even after applying the changes - my IR resolution is still 80 x 60  :-\. Is anybody able to help, or spot anything wrong with the below steps?

Here are my unit details:
I have downloaded the following files:
On my Mac, I used homebrew to install lftp (FTP client), as well as telnet.

I then connected the E4 to my local Wifi network, and checked my DHCP leases to find the IP address of the E4.

I used lftp to make a full backup from the root directory ("/") of the E4 (some files couldn't be backed up - see attached).

I then connected via telnet, and got the suid of the E4:

Code: [Select]
$ telnet -l flir 10.5.1.215
Trying 10.5.1.215...
Connected to 10.5.1.215.
Escape character is '^]'.

Welcome to the Windows CE Telnet Service on IRCAM3926

FLIR Command Line Interpreter
Version 0.4.3 running on WinCE 6.0

\>suid
57E5D3020060152E
\>exit

Connection closed by foreign host.
I then edited the conf.cfg file extracted from Basic_3.12.0.zip - the last two lines then read:
Code: [Select]
# ID 639053926
# CRC03 11223344
(I left the hash at the beginning of the line, I assume they are needed?)

I ran the cfccfg_v2.py script to create conf.cfc:

Code: [Select]
$ python ./cfccfg_V2.py 57E5D3020060152E conf.cfg conf.cfc
(It didn't return any output)

I then connected via telnet to the camera, and ran stopapp:
Code: [Select]
\>stopapp

\>ps -k facet

\>ps -k uicore

\>ps -k Gui

\>ps -k Prod

\>ps -k prod

\>ps -k MediaServer

\>ps -k appcore
Failed to terminate process 0x5BA000E (170)

\>ps -k AppServices
Successfully terminated process 0x6AA000A

\>ps -k Resmon
Successfully terminated process 0x6BC000A

\>ps -k Bit

\>ps -k syslog

\>ps -k Cam

\>ps -k cam

\>ps -k geni

\>ps -k dig

\>ps -k watch

\>ps -k Watch

\>ps -k RTP

\>ps -k fwa

\>ps -k progress

\>ps -k dig

\>ps -k Med

\>ps -k ChargeApp
Successfully terminated process 0x406000E
I then connected via lftp, and uploaded a new common_dll.dll file:

Code: [Select]
$ lftp -u flir,3vlig 10.5.1.215
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/> cd FlashBFS/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS> cd system/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> mv common_dll.dll common_dll_org.dll
mv common_dll.dll=>common_dll_org.dll [Waiting for response...]
rename successful
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> put common_dll.dll
1276928 bytes transferred in 2 seconds (647.2 KiB/s)
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> exit
I then powered off the E4, and powered it on again - it turned on successfully.

The next step was to transfer the conf.cfc file.

I didn't run stopapp this time via telnet, as the README doesn't mention it.

Code: [Select]
$ lftp -u flir,3vlig 10.5.1.215
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:~> cd FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d> ls
04-09-19  12:40                 6608 conf.cfc
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d> mv conf.cfc conf_org.cfc
mv conf.cfc=>conf_org.cfc [Waiting for response...]
rename successful
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d> put conf.cfc
7712 bytes transferred
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d> exit

I then powered down the camera, removed the battery for several seconds, then powered it on again.

The E4 turned on successfully, and I took a photo.

I then uploaded this photo to a Windows machine, to run FLIR tools on it - however, the IR resolution is still 80 x 60  |O. (The filesize of the output is also the same as before.)

I've attached my conf.cfg and conf.cfc files, in case there's something obvious there, as well as two JPGs, one before the changes, and one after.

Is anybody able to help please?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 30, 2020, 06:21:23 am
Make copies of the original dll and cfc files to your computer and delete them from the camera. Only one cfc file must be in the folder.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: victorhooi on August 30, 2020, 02:30:20 pm
Hi Bud,

Thanks for your awesome work on this guide, and for helping answer this issue.

You were correct - I deleted the FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\conf_org.cfc file (and also common_dll_org.dll), and rebooted - and the resolution is now 320x80.

Code: [Select]
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> get common_dll_org.dll
1276928 bytes transferred in 4 seconds (348.6 KiB/s)
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> rm common_dll_org.dll
rm ok, `common_dll_org.dll' removed
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> cd ..
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS> cd ..
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/> cd FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d> ls
04-09-19  20:40                 6608 conf_org.cfc
08-30-20  06:26                 7712 conf.cfc
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d> get conf_org.cfc
6608 bytes transferred
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashFS/system/appcore.d/config.d> rm conf_org.cfc
rm ok, `conf_org.cfc' removed
I did notice that the cross-hair is now in the top left corner, and not in the centre.

Is there a recommended way of fixing this so the crosshair is back in the middle all the time?

I also then copied the other files into place.

Code: [Select]
Victors-MacBook-Pro-Personal:system victorhooi$ pwd
/Users/victorhooi/Documents/flir_e4_resolution_hack/hacked_files/Basic_3.12.0/FlashBFS/system
Code: [Select]
Victors-MacBook-Pro-Personal:system victorhooi$ lftp -u flir,3vlig 10.5.1.215
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/> cd FlashBFS/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS> cd system
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> !ls
appcore.d arctic.pal battery.icons heat_det.pal lava.pal rainhc.pal ui.d
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> mput *.pal
12249 bytes transferred
Total 4 files transferred
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> cd appcore.d/factory.d/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d> put appcore.d/factory.d/ui_control.rsc
461 bytes transferred
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d> cd ../..
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> cd ui.d/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/ui.d> put ui.d/design_ui.xml
50680 bytes transferred
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/ui.d> put ui.d/facet.rcc
960556 bytes transferred in 2 seconds (397.3 KiB/s)
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/ui.d> put ui.d/toolbar-config.xml
2716 bytes transferred
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/ui.d> cd presets.d/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d> mput ui.d/presets.d/*.rsc
9750 bytes transferred in 1 second (8.0 KiB/s)
Total 9 files transferred
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d> cd ../..
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system> cd battery.icons/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/battery.icons> put battery.icons/
lftp flir@10.5.1.215:/FlashBFS/system/battery.icons> mput battery.icons/*
79964 bytes transferred
Total 2 files transferred

I am still playing around with the new settings.

One thing I noticed - for measurement mode, Hot spot - it finds the hottest spot on the screen, within the central bounding box.

Is there some way of setting it up so that it finds the hottest spot on the screen, not just within the central bounding box?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 30, 2020, 03:04:32 pm
Turn the crosshair off and back on and it should fix itself.

For the hotspot this is how it is supposed to work. You can try increasing the bounding box size, try looking in the hotspot preset file for the box coordinates on the screen.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: calel on September 15, 2020, 11:53:49 pm
hey folks just a quick question anyone know for certain if the (original) Fubar hack - the one that only works on 2.3.0 - also completely disables the artificial noise generator? cause I dont recall reading about the noise generator on his tutorial

if no one knows, then anyone know how can I verify if it's disabled or not? is it something as simple as logging into the cam with password, and opening a text file in it? (like an ini file or something)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 17, 2020, 04:02:08 am
Fubar did not do any e4 hacks. Fubar only collected and put together information in a form of step by step procedure. For the hacks for  v2.3.0 search for posts from the user janekivi.  As to the "original" , credits go to several people who developed it for earlier software versions prior to v2.3.0. And this is a wrong thread , you should be posting in the original E4 thread where information for v2.3.0 was released.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: calel on September 17, 2020, 05:24:08 am
ok so now I'm confused

this is the thread for 'FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack'

so you mean there's a seperate thread for 'FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack for 2.3.0'?  ??? (so this here thread is for non-2.3.0 hacks only? but it dont specify that in the title)


PS. I just wanted know if the hack for the E4 version 2.3.0 (the one on the old fubar.gr site) also disabled the noise generator
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 17, 2020, 11:49:33 am
Calel,

I can understand your confusion so I will answer as it may help others as well.

In the beginning, way back in 2013, when the E4 was released and people like Mike were delving into its inner workings, the FLIR E4 Teardown thread was created by Mike and included his video. That thread created a lot of interest amongst the forum membership and the thread quickly grew to a very large number of posts that were discussing ways to improve the camera. The post count grew so large that the forum thread Handling configuration had to be changed ! The thread was about the Ex series and became the default location for all discussion on upgrading the camera. In hindsight, maybe a separate thread titled Ex series upgrade should have been created. To be honest, those who knew about ten E4 tended to congregate in the teardown thread so no one needed a separate thread for the upgrade.

Time moved on and FLIR released new versions of the Ex series and these included a version with a Wi-Fi module installed. Discussions regarding upgrading of the E4 on the teardown thread started to become confusing now that there were two distance versions of the E4 camera. It was decided, very sensibly I might add, to create a separate thread that covered the later version of ten E4 that was available with or without Wi-Fi. The upgrade was a different process due to FLIR encryption countermeasures. This thread that I am writing in is applicable to just the later versions of E4 and the associated firmware versions that are encrypted. Bud has done a lot of work on the upgrade to the later E4 model and is to be applauded for his efforts and dedication to the task  :clap:

I hope you will understand that efforts are made to keep discussions about the two Ex series versions in their respective threads to avoid confusing newcomers to the forum.

If you look at the FLIR E4 Teardown thread first post by Mike, you will see that he has detailed the cameras firmware versions that are covered in that thread and has provided links to the relevant posts. You have an early version of tenE4 so that mammoth thread is your best friend. It contains masses of useful information that goes way beyond the upgrade alone  :-+ Some of the content is also applicable to the later Ex camera versions as well.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/)

I produced a “E4 Useful information thread” to provide newcomers to the E4 with information that was not related to the upgrade. There is much to learn about thermal cameras and I wanted to help on that front. I will add th slink to that thread below for you to read.

You can do worse than use the forums search function to find all threads relating to the Ex, E4, Exx and E40 as they are full of useful information. In fact this whole sub forum focussed on thermal imaging is an amazing repository of knowledge found nowhere else on the internet. I personally dislike having to answer the Sam questions time and again and tend to ignore posts that are easily answered using the forum search function or good old research using Google.


The E4 Useful information thread.......

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/)

Sadly I did not keep adding to it but the content may be of interest.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: calel on September 18, 2020, 01:01:59 am
btw the splash screen that says "Special Edition" is an image right? it's part of the mod

is it just a separate image file? (if so can it be easily replaced with the original Flir splash?)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: exe on September 22, 2020, 10:07:09 am
Are all E4 hackable, or it requires certain firmware versions? (sorry if I missed that in the long thread)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bdeianov on September 27, 2020, 05:54:08 am
Success with a E5xt, hardware 2.1L, firmware 3.16.0. Installed the basic, advanced and Christmas packs, all working OK.

I needed the XML snippet in reply #941 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2909216/#msg2909216) to see the user preset icons in the Measurement menu. I now have the same menu items as listed in reply #944 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2914600/#msg2914600).

I needed the XML snippet in reply #956 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2941688/#msg2941688) to get back the second temperature range. With that addition, both ranges work and appear to be accurate.

Thanks, Bud! (I understand Bud doesn't support these mods on non-E4 models.)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: jrannison on October 16, 2020, 06:23:26 pm
Hello everyone.......

I am new to this forum and have gone through many pages (but not all), so here are my questions:
I recently bought a used E6 1.2L, P/N 63902-0202 with S/W 2.11.0. , which functions fine.
Is it now possible to upgrade to the E8 resolution, and if possible add some of the enhancements which Bud has developed?
If possible then what pages to start at?

Thanks much
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: alphonse777 on October 22, 2020, 06:53:49 am
Dear All,

I have a E6 camera from Aug 2016
I could install the SW combinaison from
SW combination   2.11.0 + Free enhanced menu some years ago.

Question 1 :
I'm not sure that I have 320x240 resolution,

Looking inside JPEG exif file ->

Filename - FLIR0485.jpg
Make - FLIR Systems AB
Model - FLIR E6
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - 2.11.0
DateTime - 2020:10:21 06:03:28
YCbCrPositioning - Centered
ExifOffset - 202
ExposureTime - 1/43.2 seconds
ExifVersion - 0220
DateTimeOriginal - 2020:10:21 06:03:28
DateTimeDigitized - 2020:10:21 06:03:28
ComponentsConfiguration - CrCb
FocalLength - 6.50 mm
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 320
ExifImageHeight - 240
DigitalZoomRatio - 1.00 x

Reply : looked inside the 'I' information file in the camera and got the info, I'm still 160x120 pixels ...

Is there a way to increase thermal resolution to 320x240 for this model ??
 

2. I tried to upgrade to 3.12 and give a luck to it ... (saved all files before in my PC -> MANDATORY)

------
Update procedure for E4 v3.12.0
Basic Package
------

Camera does not start... after update of  common_dll.dll (that was 1 222 216 byte size)
Tried twice. Failed twice.
Not way to get FTP connexion with account / password  -> flir / 3vlig

I have to perform a recovery procedure that worked well (fortunately) with account / password  -> anonymous + NcFTP@

If I just update the encrypted file conf.cfc, the camera starts but I lost all MSX features and resolution decrease also ...

So I restored all files in FlashFS, FlashIFS and FlashBFS and was OK.

My undertandind is that

common_dll.dll and conf.cfc are bound and does not work for my E6 camera.

In the readme file, the # ID is changed but not the
 -------
6. Open the supplied conf.cfg , scroll down to the very bottom to the line that starts with "# ID " and replace the 9-digit number with your camera serial number.
   Save the file.
--------

What about  ?

# CRC03 11223344

No need to update it ?

Rgds,
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: jrannison on October 25, 2020, 06:53:43 pm
I was able to update my E6, 1.2L, with Flir S/W: 3.16.0, to Bud’s “Basic Package” and did verify 320X240 resolution by using Flir Tools 5.13. Any other add-on features will not work so far.
Just follow Bud’s Basic Package procedure. The files I ONLY used are:
1.   Basic Package 3.12.0: config.cfg
2.    Cfccfg.V2.py file
3.   Flirvers.rsc file; from the E6…..will not show up unless you are logged in as: flir, P/W: 3vlig utilizing FlieZilla.
4.   Common_dll.dll ver.3.16
I did not us any other files because for example the files in Ui.d have a different original file name format with apparently the E5,6 units. (example: design_ui_z3.xml)

When you import the images into Flir Tools, it will indicate the correct resolution. I obtained both resolutions from my E6 and you can see the difference also.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 25, 2020, 07:03:41 pm
If I just update the encrypted file conf.cfc, the camera starts but I lost all MSX features and resolution decrease also ...


You can't change conf.cfc until you replace commondll.dll and the camera boots properly. Do not attempt to trying anything else until you get the new commondll working. I can't tell though if the E6 has a different one from the E4.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: jrannison on October 25, 2020, 11:19:58 pm
As an update of what I just posted earlier today.
My E6 as I obtained it was a E6 1.2L  S/W Ver. 2.11.0
Updated to current Flir  S/W 3.16.0......Then did the updates.

I was able to update to Bud’s “Basic” and “Advanced”. Just followed the procedures.
My previous concern of a different file name format for the E5,6 units was not an issue. Just add the new files.
I might note that a few of the files in presets.d within the E6 were already there and I did not overwrite them.
 Everything seems to function correctly…so far.

I would like to thank Bud and all the others for all their hard work!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: alphonse777 on October 26, 2020, 01:45:08 pm
To jrannison ->
Seems you were successful with E6 camera ... I was not.

Did you follow the basic procedure as described or changed something ?

Also, are you now 320x240 for sure ?

Thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: jrannison on October 26, 2020, 08:27:45 pm
To jrannison ->
Seems you were successful with E6 camera ... I was not.

Did you follow the basic procedure as described or changed something ?

Also, are you now 320x240 for sure ?

Thanks

Yes I did confirm the 320x240 resolution…..Please read my previous 2 posts. There is some information there.
I first updated my E6 to the current (latest) Flir software 3.16.0

There are a few errors in the text procedure dated January 10, 2018 by Bud.

Line 3.1 should be……..FlashIFS\flirvers.rsc (not version.rsc).
This file resides on the E6 and should be in your backup. That is a text file and the SUID is on the second line down. As a note I found you must log in on the FTP client as: flir   Password: 3vlig.......If you log in as: anonymous  Password: NcFTP@  the file is not visible, and also will not be backed up.
Line 3.2 was not necessary for me.

Line 6 Mentions 9-digit number.........the pervious versions (in my case 1.2L) of the camera has only 8-digits, just enter the 8 digits.

Line 7 was a little confusing as it never mentions the path of where the files are located. In my case I just created a folder named UF at the root C: drive. Placed the cfccfg_V2.py and the Conf.cfg files in there.
Then executed the following in the Command.com window:
C:\cd\Python27
Python  C:\UF\cfccfg.V2.py  XXX(the SUID num.)XXX  C:\UF\conf.cfg  C:\UF\conf.cfc

That places the created conf.cfc in the UF folder.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 26, 2020, 10:30:02 pm
There are a few errors in the text procedure dated January 10, 2018 by Bud.

They are not errors, but differences between the E4 for which the procedure was developed and your E6.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: jrannison on October 27, 2020, 04:57:14 am
There are a few errors in the text procedure dated January 10, 2018 by Bud.

They are not errors, but differences between the E4 for which the procedure was developed and your E6.

Well that is true. I only have seen the E6. Just an incorrect phrase that I used.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Mannyb on November 01, 2020, 12:50:55 am
Hi All
i have Flir E4 with software 3.16
it was successfully liberated and i've got 320X 240 Resolution
but there's POP up saying "This device has Unsupported software for learning" during boot
i spent hours trial and error which file causes the POP up which is very inconvenience
and found out it is the uploaded Facet.rcc, using original facet_Z3.rcc, the pop up disappear, but some icon picture on the menu is missing, the menu are fully functional even though icon picture is missing or doesn't appear.
any help to resolve or appear the missing icon would be appreciated
thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 01, 2020, 01:01:23 am
The author of the E4-WiFi upgrade placed that notification there for good reason so I doubt anyone here is going to help remove it as we respect his wishes.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Mannyb on November 02, 2020, 11:19:02 pm
Thanks Fraser for your reply
the E4 product is old and discontinued, means there's no more production, i can't see the logic or good reason for putting that inconvenience pop up. it's like a helpless man that has been helped, but he is being reminded everyday that he has been help. LOL
a genuine help and support should be free... thanks anyway
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 02, 2020, 11:51:18 pm
The upgraded E4 Wi-Fi model is vulnerable to issues if a new FLIR firmware release is ever loaded. Some profiteers sold upgraded E4 cameras on eBay but did not warn the buyers that the cameras had this vulnerability. The designer of the upgrade wanted to make sure that no one could pass off the E4 Wi-Fi as a standard firmware build, it is not, unlike the early (FW 1.18/1.19) versions of the E4.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 04, 2020, 06:21:31 am
Thanks Fraser for your reply
the E4 product is old and discontinued, means there's no more production, i can't see the logic or good reason for putting that inconvenience pop up. it's like a helpless man that has been helped, but he is being reminded everyday that he has been help. LOL
a genuine help and support should be free... thanks anyway

E4 is still being sold by Flir.

"Help and support" - we are not running a charity or help desk here, you must have confused this forum with the camera manufacturer's services.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Janzobanzo on November 16, 2020, 10:25:30 am
Hello fellow Thermoimagers!

I'm looking into purchasing thermal camera and came across this beautiful post!

I'm specifically looking into purchasing FLIR E4 camera, and I was wondering if the Resolution and menu hack is still possible?
I've read that FLIR released new FW few years ago, to make it harder to upgrade the camera to 320x240.

I'm wondering what version of E4 should I purchase?
I've found E4 WIFI FOR 999€, and I'm wondering if it can still be upgraded as of 2020

(link: https://si.farnell.com/flir/flir-e4-wifi/thermal-imager-45x34-deg-1-6ft/dp/2819816)

Thank you for your answers!
Apprechiate it

Jonathan
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 16, 2020, 12:33:20 pm
The E4 remains upgradable thanks to the Stirling efforts of certain very knowledgeable forum members, most recently “Bud”. Just follow the instruction for Bud’s upgrade and you will be fine  :-+

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 16, 2020, 04:38:13 pm
Check the end of this post for a list of firmware versions.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: OneTreeHill on December 08, 2020, 07:35:43 am
Is it still hacked to E4 E8 in the new version as before? Since I haven't followed for a long time, I wanted to ask.

https://karakoydepo.com/flir-e4-ir-wifi-msx-termal-kamera
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 08, 2020, 08:05:51 am
Information is in the link right before your post.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: spirch on December 10, 2020, 01:34:58 am
just saying that i was able to do a no wifi version, re calibrated last summer with 2.0L and 3.16 without issue

I used winxp and was able to do everything with the USB

i did the "unlock" and when i saw that i had the proper resolution, i did the system folder of basic/advanced/advanced-v2/christmas in one shot (i didnt want to do one by one haha, everything seem to be ok)

but damn it took me a while, 3-5 hours, to find all the information, read them, understand them, etc

side note, anything else/new that i can do that i missed? i just followed what Bud say from his basic thread and link in them (reply #183)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 10, 2020, 06:21:42 am
It appears you've done all of what was published  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Narkoa on December 11, 2020, 11:28:10 am
Hi everyone,

I just registered to say a big thanks to all the people that provided this amazing work to better understand and liberate the E4 camera.
In particular thank you to Mike, Fraser, Taucher and Bud, along with all the contributors that helped me in understanding and tweaking the device.

Thanks to you I was able to perform the full liberation on a second hand non-Wifi E4 HW1.0 under FW3.16.

Because I made my homeworks, here are some information to humbly contribute and help newcomers.
I did everything from a Windows10 x64 platform.

Steps I followed :

Next step is I will have a look at close-up lenses tests and results you have made for macro electronic boards investigation.

Thank you again for your help, I am now very happy with my new toy.
Regards,
Narkoa
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: todd_fuller on December 11, 2020, 03:37:55 pm
Just a heads up to anyone looking for an E4 upgrade candidate, Flir's online store has refurbished (with warranty) E4's with and without WiFi for $650 and $600 respectively.

https://www.flir.com/promotions/open-box-refurbs/ (https://www.flir.com/promotions/open-box-refurbs/)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Narkoa on December 13, 2020, 10:14:55 pm
You can't take videos with E4.

Hello Bud,
Just to be clear, I have no particular knowledge of the development from flir. I just had been taken a look in the extracted files for the past days and try to undestand how you did achieve to unlock features (Amazing work, thank you again).


I am wondering about the ability of the Ex serie firmware to handle other recording modes.
I noticed two modes that do not seems to be accessible yet but implemented in the firmware : in the facet_ui_qml.dll (wich I did not know how to fully open, any hint?). I found references with a basic text editor to "recordingMode_panorama" and "recordingMode_video"

I added both to the appropriate toolbar and even if panorama did not show up, the video recording one actually did.
When I select it, a timer is displayed on the top of the screen (please see attached picture). Nothing happens when I trigger the capture though...

I also noticed some video-related settings that I don't know how to force the display of (as you did in Christmas package for User_Preset):
Code: [Select]
VideoTypeSettingsModel
ID_SETUP_VIDEOTYPE_MPEG_BRIEF   ID_SETUP_VIDEOTYPE_CSQ_BRIEF   
ID_SETUP_VIDEOTYPE_MPEG   ID_SETUP_VIDEOTYPE_CSQ
 
VideoFormatSettingsModel   
ID_SETUP_VIDEOFORMAT_NTSC   VIDEOFORMAT_NTSC    ID_SETUP_VIDEOFORMAT_PAL    VIDEOFORMAT_PAL

Regarding panorama I found numerous of handler references and a related caps : caps.config.image.framegrab.panorama but no way to activate it so far.

I dont know if I am really onto something or if it is just a waste of your time...
Do you think you could help with this please? Any hint or advice for things I overlooked or tools to help going further?
Thank you,

Narkoa




Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 14, 2020, 06:22:41 am
Yes i've tried that but concluded that the required event handlers were missing in E4 firmware. There were some API calls from one one file to another but there was no exported functions in the second file to process the calls. So nothing happens when trying using those features, and this is what you are observing.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Narkoa on December 14, 2020, 07:39:00 am
Wow, thank you for that quick answer.

I had the felling - since the whole VideoPlayback feature seems available from archive - it was strange the recording is not possible.
Too bad :(

Have a nice day,
Narkoa
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Undo It on December 15, 2020, 03:34:11 pm
can someone give me help with this problem
my camera is a flir E4 with resolution 320 x 240 msx by mistake update to version 3.16 where I thought it was going to have some improvement where it was not like that the images were all pixelated and in poor quality I contacted the technical support of flir attended me one such Daniel Cuervo where I hurt the camera more than I was. I entered by team viewers and did the procedure and now my camera is completely in bootloader mode when you connect to the computer an ASCO unit with 23 mb comes out.
There is some solution for this problem since in Brazil or the USA they want to fix it after doing the damage.
I have not been able to work for 2 weeks this was my job and now I have no way to support my family since I depended on the camera to work

I wasn't able to find solution to this forum related to this issues,
so here's what i did.
I have Flir E4, version 2.0 with firmware 3.16, after liberation and successfully hacked the menu and resolution, including the modification of popup message (in respect to the author not to remove it). i tried to play and installed old firmware, and ended up with the same issues as per the above message, where there's no access to RNDIS and the USB is ASCO with two text error message. and only flir logo appears on the unit.

Procedures:

1. Turn on the Flir E4
2. Once the Flir logo appears, keep pressing and releasing the power button several times within one or two second, just enough not to shut down or close the unit. this will force the bootloader to response, either to goes through or shut down. (on some other flir unit you have to press the back button within 10 seconds)
3. Flir E4 may or may not load all the configured file, but you will have access to either RNDIS or normal USB MSD mode.
4. Don't close or power off the unit until you load the the necessary files
5. if it is in MSD mode rename the  correct and latest firmware with autoload.fif and save the files into the root directory of the camera's storage including eFLIRInstall.exe, or install it directly using Flir install
6. If it is in RNDIS mode you can use total commander. filezilla or Win Ce to return back the original file.

This works for me and  i did it twice, but there's no guarantee that it will works for you.
hope this can contribute something.



Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: spirch on December 20, 2020, 01:03:58 am
got to love using this around the house to find issue, question incoming.

last summer i had electric work done around the house and this is a place where they put a brand new cable, i dont think i would have noticed the issue.

fix was easy at least!  :-+

question, is it possible to increase image quality, if yes how?

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 20, 2020, 07:07:57 pm
Not likely unless you change the lense or use a tool to adjust focus. I am assuming you are asking about thermal image part of the camera. For image resolution you already reached the limit by modding the camera. Some improvement can be achieved through superresolution post processing but it is not practical.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: spirch on December 20, 2020, 07:39:29 pm
Not likely unless you change the lense or use a tool to adjust focus. I am assuming you are asking about thermal image part of the camera. For image resolution you already reached the limit by modding the camera. Some improvement can be achieved through superresolution post processing but it is not practical.

thanks, it's always good to ask just in case  8)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2020, 12:37:48 am
Wow, thank you for that quick answer.

I had the felling - since the whole VideoPlayback feature seems available from archive - it was strange the recording is not possible.
Too bad :(

Have a nice day,
Narkoa
Technically speaking it is possible to take short (a few seconds) videos, limited in size by the device's small memory size, using the command interpreter scripting language. But this is not portable and as such not much practical because it would typically require connection to a computer. The computer could configure and launch a script on a schedule and manage the video clips. I.e. moving them from the camera to the computer to free the device memory after each take. If connection to a computer and the burst  format of such videos is not an issue then this should be doable.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2020, 12:44:10 am
By the way, another feature that remains unexplored is the camera's ability to automatically trigger and upload shots to an FTP server. This may be of a practical value for specific use cases where a camera is set up to work in unattended mode, as long as a WiFi connection is maintained. I've seen the related configuration entries but never got to trying it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: agiorgitis on December 21, 2020, 08:04:42 am
Bud, sometimes time=money.
If not done just for hobby, the time you invest on making an E4 behave like an E60 (for example), may be more that just buying a new camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2020, 10:08:57 am
It was simply a technical challenge, and a few nights of digging in, that is all.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: spirch on December 23, 2020, 03:56:43 am
It was simply a technical challenge, and a few nights of digging in, that is all.

(in case someone read my previous post, i used the wrong word...)

finding something new and making it work is priceless  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: charoy on December 29, 2020, 01:52:34 pm
Hi Guys,
Good Day!
I am new in this thread and recently bought a Flir E4(wifi resolution).May I ask your help please from which updated thread I can follow step by step on how to backup my flir directories/libraries stock camera and an updated steps on how to maximize its resolution into the highest resolution. I really appreciate your response.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: QLF on January 03, 2021, 03:11:00 pm
Hello Guys,

I have received my E4 Wifi just today ..

Freeware 3.16.0 - 2.0L

Please guide me on how/which threads should I go through to successfully done the steps ..

Thank you,
Yousif
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Ribster on January 06, 2021, 02:13:19 pm
When i load this onto my E4 WiFi version 3.16.0 i get the following:
(I am using the 3.16 common_dll)

- Flir logo boots
- I see the thermal view, but without menu
- The blue loading bar goed past the middle, and then the screen goes black
- Loadbar keeps progressing, eventually shuts down

Restoring the dll to the original version gives me back original functionality.
Any idea's ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 06, 2021, 02:45:29 pm
There must be an error somewhere in what you did. Also make sure only one copy of the config exists in the folder on the camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on January 09, 2021, 06:48:58 pm
Hello, i have updated FW one year, still is not possible sketch on Ex series ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 09, 2021, 07:33:49 pm
Using the sketch function would be limited by the lack of a touch screen on the Ex series. You could apply a ‘stamp’ and move it with the navi pad but not much else.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: randfee on January 09, 2021, 08:33:14 pm
hi everybody and happy new year.

on my quest for a thermal cam (for private use) I've come across this thread with the option to 'upgrade' the FLIR E4xx  nice!
As far as I understand it should still be possible to update the latest iterations of firmware and hardware shipping right now.

Now I'm looking for a specific set of features and even after parsing through this awesome thread, I'm not sure the E4 would be for me. Some of the features I see here and there across the internet of people having applied this 'hack' seem to contradict each other in their 'feature' set.
I guess some of the latter features might be possible using some PC software while connected via USB, like from joe-c here or even the FLIR one.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/freeware-software-for-thermal-analysis-thermovision_joec/msg949563/#msg949563 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/freeware-software-for-thermal-analysis-thermovision_joec/msg949563/#msg949563)

I'd appreciate any comment regarding this and would go ahead with my purchase of an E4.
For my usage I'd have to heavily modify the camera, as I also would have to look into a focusing mod (adjustable) and/or a macro lens. I guess I could manage to somehow mount this grip-style camera over a desk, since I don't know any alternative with this resulution at the price point.

thanks & happy new year! stay healthy!
Arnold

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 10, 2021, 06:31:20 am
Will any (current) E4 get the extended temperature range of up -20-550°C when applying these packages?

No.

Quote
Is there a way to save CSVs or any other file format with the actual temperature values as floats in them? This would allow for much simpler analysis

E4 can create so called radiometric JPG files which contain both the visual and thermal image. The thermal image is  made of pixels representing the measured temperature of the object. You can apply some formulas to them to convert to temperature values.

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Since I don't have gotten my hands on the E4 before: how does one take an image? Does one have to press the pistol grip or does the modified menu offer something like an intervalometer where one can take one frame a second for instance?

You can press the trigger button on the grip, or you can set the (liberated) camera to time lapse mode , specifying a number of images to take and a time period  (there is a limitation of a few sec on the min time period) and the camera will take images automatically. Or you can connect the camera to a computer and control it via console commands and scripts. The latter did not receive much attention on this forum so information how to do it may be scarce. Likely there are application softwares that can do this sort of things but I am not familiar with them.

Quote
I'm looking for a way to determine delta-temperatures in a static scene (camera mounted, nothing moves, just temperature changes). Thus, hitting a button to determine the reference image and for any further frame or live view subtracting the temperatures of the reference image in each pixel. Thus these dT images should be zero across all pixels. Whenever the temperature changes somewhere this would be drastically more visible and obvious then looking at images that barely change.

You could use the Screening mode for that on the liberated camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: exe on January 15, 2021, 01:47:36 pm
I'm a happy owner of liberated e4 (non-wifi) with 3.16 firmware. Got my camera from ebay from a German seller. I'd like to share my experience, particularly things I've done wrong.

1. Flir tools != device drivers.
1. In VirtualBox I changed network address with `VBoxManage setextradata win10  "VBoxInternal/Devices/e1000/0/LUN#0/Config/Network"   "172.23.24/24"`, otherwise it would overlap with camera address.
2. In virtual box I had to set USB to mode 3.0. In mode 2.0 it couldn't pass through my camera.
3. Couldn't make network adapter to get IP address (got address like 169.xx.xx.xx). Disabled ipv6, and all other protocols, didn't help. However enabling/disabling network device helped me
4. I put suid instead of camera serial number :(. This one I didn't get right from instructions. Thanks to this thread I figured out the problem. As a result, instead of enhancing the camera, I got it half-broken (no crosshair, etc). *SUID != serial number*. I re-uploaded corrected configuration without problem, after that got all the missing features and resolution
5. Took free image of win10 from the Internet (https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sky@eevblog on January 16, 2021, 07:26:21 am
Hello!

Anybody has experience with version 3.16.5 please? Got a replacement E4 wifi from flir service but forgot to ask them is it still hackable or does common_dll_3.16 works for it? So asking here ).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 16, 2021, 01:32:59 pm
Hi,

Sorry I cannot help, but you have made me smile today  ;D Thankyou  :-+ I am not criticising your thought processes but you do know that FLIR are not exactly happy that people worked out how to upgrade their cheapest Ex series camera to a spec beyond the most expensive Ex model ? I have to wonder what their reply would have been if you had asked them if their camera was still hackable  :-DD

As I said, I am not criticising you but this did make me laugh..... the customer support representative would likely have been spitting feathers upon receiving such a question  ;D

From what I have read, all firmware versions may still be upgraded but I will leave it to others to detail what, if any, changes to upgrade files are needed  :-+

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rkrawetz on January 20, 2021, 06:39:55 pm
Hello all,
First time posting after reading through the thread to try to find the fix to my issue, but no luck.
Just got an E4 3.16 2.0 WIFI and was attempting to install the basic package through the USB method.
Used the FIF method to switch the camera to RNDIS mode, but when I now try to connect the camera to the PC it says thermacam connect 3 cannot connect.
Any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: exe on January 20, 2021, 06:48:45 pm
Used the FIF method to switch the camera to RNDIS mode, but when I now try to connect the camera to the PC it says thermacam connect 3 cannot connect.

I think I've seen it before, try disabling and enabling camera network adapter. I also read disabling ipv6 can help.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rkrawetz on January 20, 2021, 07:11:07 pm
Thank you very much for the advice.
Tried to disable/enable and also turn off IPv6. The computer recognizes it as a FLIR camera network device, but still cant connect. Here is the IPCONFIG info. I am using a win 10 computer. Do you think I should try to find an older one?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: rkrawetz on January 20, 2021, 09:17:46 pm
Hi all,
was able to connect to the E4 by moving to a windows 7 pro computer and applying the disable/enable trick. Thank you EXE for the advice.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: exe on January 21, 2021, 09:25:08 am
Yeah, I also had troubles getting reliable connection. At the end, I disabled all protocols except ipv4, and switching off and on network adapter got me reliable connection even on win10.

I think there can be a timing factor when to plug usb into camera. So, I switched off camera, disconnected usb, removed battery, then plugged battery, turned camera on, then plug usb, then toggle network adapter... If done in right sequence and right timing it worked pretty reliably (what weird definition of "reliability").
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: charoy on January 26, 2021, 08:35:00 pm
Can someone please help me which thread and how can I upgrade my flir e4 wifi version 2.0L and software 3.16.0. I dont know where I can download the flir device driver as well as flir tools. may you please send me a link. Appreciate your help
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Narkoa on January 27, 2021, 12:38:04 pm
Hello,

Both are downloadable from Flir website, I assume you did  not search well enough :phew:.

Good luck with your update.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: charoy on January 28, 2021, 01:20:02 am
Hi Sirs,

May I ask your help please.

I am stuck on python. I followed step by step of Sir buds like replacing the ID # and geting the SUID and restart my virtual machine windows 7 after the installation of python but still I am unable to create the config.cfc  and config.cfg file.Appreciate your help. Please see attached file
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2021, 02:28:41 am
Put the .py file into the folder where you have Python installed and run the command from there.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: charoy on January 29, 2021, 07:29:23 pm
Hi EveryOne,

Good Day.

I would like to say thank you Sir Bud and the rest of the contributor for all the work you do for this community.
My Flir e4 wifi is now liberated
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Narkoa on January 30, 2021, 12:28:09 pm
Hello,

Well done  :clap:!

You may now go further if you wish by using the advanced Bud's packages for additionnal features.
I tried to summarize the links to owners' topics here (http://ttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3364376/#msg3364376).

Have fun >:D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: charoy on January 31, 2021, 12:47:49 am
Thank you Sir. I will try on this and post the result after.  :-+ :scared:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on February 12, 2021, 01:46:30 am
Thanks Bud and all others who helped with E4 hacking.
My new E4 is now also liberated. :D

Quick question i've not found by googling yet.
My E4 has wifi and I can see the html page it creates.

Other than the webserver and telnet, what else can be done over wifi?
Can it stream video somehow without needing USB?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: natman69 on February 13, 2021, 09:45:20 am
Hi,

I have an E4 with firmware 3.12.0.
Is it worth to upgrade to the latest 3.16.xx firmware version before applying the resolution enhancement "procedure"?
Which are the main differences in new firmware version? I can't find a firmware release note.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: beaglesd on February 21, 2021, 11:52:29 pm
I'm going to order a new E4. Form below seems latest firmware 3.16.5? If hardware version same any guess whether this firmware version would work? Any hints to mod files if it's version 3.16.5. Alternatively are firmware downgrades generally possible to 3.16.0 then mod?

I'll report back after it arrives and I tried mod.

@sky did you try modding your 3.16.5?

Hello!

Anybody has experience with version 3.16.5 please? Got a replacement E4 wifi from flir service but forgot to ask them is it still hackable or does common_dll_3.16 works for it? So asking here ).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on February 23, 2021, 10:09:56 am
I'm going to order a new E4. Form below seems latest firmware 3.16.5? If hardware version same any guess whether this firmware version would work? Any hints to mod files if it's version 3.16.5. Alternatively are firmware downgrades generally possible to 3.16.0 then mod?

I got mine from Digikey 3 weeks ago and it was FW 3.16.0   
I doubt they sell so many that they have restocked since then.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sky@eevblog on February 25, 2021, 01:59:14 pm
I confirm that common_dll 3.16 works fine with 3.16.5. At least in my case.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: maicoalvim on March 04, 2021, 11:42:09 am
Hi!  I bought an E4 camera last week, it is my first thermal camera, I am not the first owner of this E4.
The previous owner has already done the hack to have the specifications of the E8.  My camera is model E4 1.2l FW 2.11.0.  I would like to know if there is any improvement in FW beyond 2.11.0 and if it is possible to install but maintaining the functionality of the E8 camera.
Thanks all
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: sky@eevblog on March 04, 2021, 03:23:43 pm
Regarding E4 wifi with 3.16.5 from service.

Technician didn't take care to remove service files from the camera. It has web service menu and may be more. If someone (especially contributors to the forum)  needs the files for a reasonable purpose I am ready to share. PM me on this regard. With only condition not to put this for public access without removing serial numbers, dates, etc. which could lead back to me please.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on March 05, 2021, 01:32:11 am
It has web service menu and may be more

That sounds exciting

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: natman69 on March 12, 2021, 04:54:05 pm
After reading this long thread, I have "liberated" my E4 non-WIFI 2.0L with upgraded software 3.16.0.

I am a grey hairs EE working in IT from decades and in free time I started to enjoy a lot learning again EE.
If I have understood how all this was possible:

1) common_dll.dll was patched to avoid checking the CRC of conf.cfc file
2) in conf.cfc file the settings that control resolution and noise are:
    IRwidth int32 320 (original E4 has 80)
    IRheight int32 240 (original E4 has 60)
    targetNoiseMk int32 0 (original E4 has 135)
3) all the rest is necessary to add menu and functions imported from Exx series

Correct?

I am impressed about how the various functions were "surgically" imported from Exx. Really a big big work.
I wish to thank you Bud and all forum fellow members for sharing their knowledge. Thank you! :-+




Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: maicoalvim on March 13, 2021, 10:33:01 pm
Hello friends. I finally managed to update the menus on my E8 camera. But when I turn on the camera,  showing this alert. This is normal? thanks all
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 14, 2021, 06:59:07 am
Yes this is normal.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: truetypezk on March 19, 2021, 03:06:51 pm
I have an E4 non WIFI model (3.16.0) for a few months and the hack went through effortlessly thanks to the great resources here on the forum.

I just bought another E4 WIFI model (Date dec 2020 on 3.16.0) last month, trying to mod it for many times yet can't even get the enhanced resolution.

I have successfully replaced the dll file, booted up fine. Changed the conf.cfg, converted it using the SUID, copied it back and the system booted up to the old 80*60 resolution every single time.

Since this is a WIFI model, my first instinct was to FTP it via WIFI to replace the files. After trying and failing for many time, I gave up and turned off the WIFI and used the old RNDIS way, which not surprisingly failed to work again. (I didn't feel the method of connection would affect the outcome but tried it anyway since I was out of other options)

I tried the conf files in all 3 packages yet not a single one works to give me the enhanced resolution.

I wonder if I am missing something or is there any way to troubleshoot what has gone wrong? Many thanks in advance!


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edit: Woops, found the answer from victorhooi's post and Bud's answer. We have the exact same issue. Just delete the original cfc file did the trick. This is so weird as the non-WIFI version worked fine with the original cfc filename changed. Fiddling around myself for hours doesn't beat some careful research on the forum apparently |O
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: maicoalvim on March 19, 2021, 03:42:48 pm
did you delete the original .cfc file?  but you backed it up, correct?  If you lose that original .cfc file, you will no longer be able to return the original software from it.  I made that mistake.  I sent my camera to Flir to make a diagnosis.  now i'm waiting for a response from them to know how much it will cost me to restore the original software.


 
I have an E4 non WIFI model (3.16.0) for a few months and the hack went through effortlessly thanks to the great resources here on the forum.

I just bought another E4 WIFI model (Date dec 2020 on 3.16.0) last month, trying to mod it for many times yet can't even get the enhanced resolution.

I have successfully replaced the dll file, booted up fine. Changed the conf.cfg, converted it using the SUID, copied it back and the system booted up to the old 80*60 resolution every single time.

Since this is a WIFI model, my first instinct was to FTP it via WIFI to replace the files. After trying and failing for many time, I gave up and turned off the WIFI and used the old RNDIS way, which not surprisingly failed to work again. (I didn't feel the method of connection would affect the outcome but tried it anyway since I was out of other options)

I tried the conf files in all 3 packages yet not a single one works to give me the enhanced resolution.

I wonder if I am missing something or is there any way to troubleshoot what has gone wrong? Many thanks in advance!


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edit: Woops, found the answer from victorhooi's post and Bud's answer. We have the exact same issue. Just delete the original cfc file did the trick. This is so weird as the non-WIFI version worked fine with the original cfc filename changed. Fiddling around myself for hours doesn't beat some careful research on the forum apparently |O
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: truetypezk on March 20, 2021, 02:41:26 pm
Yeah I have saved a copy of all the original files. That's kind of natural for someone who prefer to change the original filenames rather than simply deleting them. ;D
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Ribster on March 28, 2021, 11:39:35 am
When i load this onto my E4 WiFi version 3.16.0 i get the following:
(I am using the 3.16 common_dll)

- Flir logo boots
- I see the thermal view, but without menu
- The blue loading bar goed past the middle, and then the screen goes black
- Loadbar keeps progressing, eventually shuts down

Restoring the dll to the original version gives me back original functionality.
Any idea's ?

Got it working. Had an issue where i copies the files in the FS folder instead of the BFS folder for the basic version.
then the config file could not find the files that it required causing the issue!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Djsajmy on May 07, 2021, 03:02:33 pm
Is there a way to display a custom message / info on boot? Changing the boot logo or adding text to the message after boot?


Was not able to find a simple way to do that.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Spirit532 on May 07, 2021, 07:54:35 pm
Is there a way to display a custom message / info on boot? Changing the boot logo or adding text to the message after boot?


Was not able to find a simple way to do that.

The boot logo is just a standard bitmap in the file system. Replace it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Djsajmy on May 08, 2021, 07:50:56 am
That bmp is never used... And replacing it does zero.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on June 13, 2021, 01:43:18 pm
I read a lot of posts, still not sure, can give guidance.

My machine is FLIR E4 2.0L 3.12. Do you follow the steps of 2.3.0( https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/) ), using the 3.12 file?

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359))
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Oda on June 24, 2021, 03:09:53 am
Hello Gents!

I'm ready to purchase an E4 Wifi either thru Global Test Supply (tie up with ITM) or Amazon but leaning heavily on the former for its cheaper price ($894 inc. shipping and 90-day return). Just hoping to get one with the latest firmwares especially 3.16.0 or perhaps 3.12.0 whichever...still 3.12 mod either way. A gazillion thanks to Bud just the same!

I don't have access to a Win7 32-bit machine. My rig is a Win10 64-bit Home edition with ethernet and wireless capability.

My questions:

1. Can this modding be done solely on a Win10 64-bit platform without the hit or miss? I've read Monolith was able to do so in post #255.
2. Should I go with a Wifi or USB connection?
3. Which version of PuTTy shall I use?
4. Will the basic modding, change the E4's thermal sensitivity and object temperature range to    <50mk and 1,022°F? Never seen any affirmation nor confirmation about these specs in this thread beside the resolution euphoria.

I've never done these things before but I've been around since the days of PCTools, Norton Utilities, C-Brain and Ping-Pong virus, to say
the least. Right now I'm just trying to piece everything together and trying to understand how this modding methodology works.

Your time and patience in helping out this non-nerd will really be much appreciated.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on June 25, 2021, 11:56:27 am
My questions:

1. Can this modding be done solely on a Win10 64-bit platform without the hit or miss? I've read Monolith was able to do so in post #255.
2. Should I go with a Wifi or USB connection?
3. Which version of PuTTy shall I use?
4. Will the basic modding, change the E4's thermal sensitivity and object temperature range to    <50mk and 1,022°F? Never seen any affirmation nor confirmation about these specs in this thread beside the resolution euphoria.

1) yes, I used win10 64bit to do mine
2) I used USB
3) I used 0.70 but it should not matter at all
4) I don't know, sorry

Just make sure you backup all the files that can be copied off (not all files can be and that is ok, some files give ftp errors, just make sure your ftp client skips and keeps going when it hits a bad file. You want a copy of all files that can be copied)
Once you have a backup, zip it up and put it somewhere safe.
Part of the hack process involves changing files on your local PC and the uploading. It would be bad if you made a backup and then, in your excitement, started to edit the files and patch the backup.
So keep the backup and working folders separate.

Also make sure you read through and understand the process listed in the readme files before starting.
Take it one step at a time and pay attention to what you're doing so you dont make a mistake.
Read the forum posts and find someone who has done it successfully with the same FW version you have. They often post info about what they did and what files they used.

The actual process is pretty easy, it doesn't take long, but you must not edit the wrong files or delete something you shouldn't.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: EthanSpitz on July 17, 2021, 09:06:37 am
Awesome work Bud!

I just bought a second hand FLIR E4 1.2L Non-Wifi that had 2.11.0 software installed. After about 3 hours of struggling (figuring out that I needed FLIRInstallNet.exe from the FLIR Tools and also figuring out that it would take about 3 hours to actually let it upgrade the firmware), I got upgraded to version 3.16.0 and to the point where I could start the liberation! That took about all of an hour, including all the time I was playing with every feature it had in each basic, advanced, and christmas pack modes, as well as backing up each mode individually to allow me to more easily swap between versions if I desire to.

If you could please verify your current crypto addresses so I can send you something that would be great. I don't want to send some crypto to a blackhole!

Also, if you or anyone else in this thread knows, I noticed in the Christmas and advanced packs, the "Hot Spot" and "Cold Spot" measurement modes limit their area to a box in the center of the screen. In the basic pack, the "Hot Spot" and "Cold Spot" Measurement modes use the full screen. I'd like to use the full screen for those "basic" measurement modes and then use the User Presets to do more advanced layouts of measurement if I need them. It just seems like a bummer that there isn't a full screen "Hot Spot" and "Cold Spot" preset anymore.

I'm feeling pretty comfortable hacking around on this thing now, so I'll probably start diffing some of the files and see if that's something I can enable myself, but if there's a built in setting I'm not seeing or if anyone knows how already, I'd love the tip!

Best,
Ethan
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on July 17, 2021, 11:13:54 pm
Many thanks, Ethan!
The crypto addresses are valid. In regards to the measurement templates, you can simply replace the ones for Cold/Hot Spot ones with the corresponding ones from your backup - look them up in your archive by file names ( i do not have the exact file path handy).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: EthanSpitz on July 23, 2021, 01:33:26 am
Thanks Bud! I'll give it a shot! Enjoy the ETH!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on August 29, 2021, 01:41:48 am
Just picked up a 2nd hand E4 2.0L  3.13.0 , he bought it to find a roof leak in his warehouse for storing classic cars .
From most of the adds I've seen for new & used , this one did come with Flir case USB cable , but no CD or wal-wart , looks brand new .

Not familiar with computer language , programing so a lot of this looks as a new language ;)
With all the posts / threads , it's getting hard to find specific stuff , Fraser led me to Bud --- thanks to both for all the work .
I did read somewhere that there was multiple upgrades ,some had many new icons in the menu , so looking to see if there is a list of the add functions ?
Guessing I would be fine with minimal upgrade higher grade picture .
But would like to know what I may not want ?

My main interests are for heating / cooling loss construction , diagnostics with electrical I do board work mainly from the ham radio hobby [ I like idea of getting more out the the hobby by finding gear I like that is broken , learning how to fix and then operate , rather than just buy off the shelf ] .

Then my illness of what I call a TOOL-JONES ;) 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 29, 2021, 07:31:01 pm
See post #478 in this thread. You will need the first 2 attachments from that post.  You do not need the "advanced" package based on your requirements.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on August 30, 2021, 05:47:56 pm
Thanks again for your efforts .

BUT ;)
What about my TOOL-JONES ;(
A link to the list of the advanced features , to see what I am missing / buy more than I need - a serious TOOL-JONES ;)

Now to apply to my tool , hopefully not brick it - my logic many time does not match lots of computer versions of logic ?

I was asking on another thread if someone [ do not trust eBay sources , let along the cost ] here does remote upgrade , suggestions .
I mostly do not work for free , so would expect to pay for a service , try to turn down free - except on the free section on craigslist - get lot of goodies there .
Thanks again
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 30, 2021, 08:38:17 pm
What is TOOL- JONES?  :-//
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on August 30, 2021, 09:52:58 pm
Adiction

basketball jones

tool-jones
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on August 31, 2021, 03:12:32 pm
You can review screenshots in replies #390 to #401.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on August 31, 2021, 03:25:37 pm
Your correct , more than I want to bother at this time , future is unknown ;)
A lot of interesting options .
Thanks again
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: XOIIO on September 20, 2021, 04:42:19 am
Ok so I've wanted one of these on and off for years, I've gotten my foot in the door for metal casting, and it's making me want one again.

Only read a couple pages, but it sounds like now flir caught on to us modding them, so the e4 can't go above 250c now even with a modified firmware? Does the resolution increase still work? I'm not sure what the current state is like.

Honestly 550c is kind of low for what I'm doing, but still, I'd love one. Sounds like I should have ponied up for one years ago though :(

If I was looking for a used e4 to mod, what hardware revision/serial range/firmware would work to get the extended temp range and whatnot?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on September 20, 2021, 01:54:07 pm
I was in a similar situation , read here for some yrs. now and wanted one of these .
Came across a local ad and came back to these threads to check what to look for .
My unit was , dang forgot the hole software number , but was close to 3.?? ending in 13 , someone suggested a member called Bud , just above .
Problem for me is , that this has become such a large subject spreading across multiple threads , and my memory sucks at older age
;(
Bud has downloads one of these threads , somewhere around number 470 or close , if the old memory works a little ?
So someone may showup with more info .
So the bottom line is , the hack may not work someday , but sounds like people are stilling working on this and close to new should work , but if you do not have one yet - hopefully what you find will work .
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 20, 2021, 06:00:31 pm
I do not think E4 had ever had extended temperature limit, I believe it was E6.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 20, 2021, 06:04:39 pm
The list of compatible firmware revisions was given in reply #183

Quote
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Update March 7, 2019: So far the following FW versions confirmed working: 3.9.0, 3.11.0, 3.12.0, 3.13.0, 3.16.0. They may use different packages, you need to scan this thread for information and attachments for a particular fw version.
'=====================
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: XOIIO on September 20, 2021, 10:25:17 pm
I do not think E4 had ever had extended temperature limit, I believe it was E6.

Ahh, ok, so maybe the e4 has a cheaper sensor but it's the e6 that is more limited by software then, I'll have to figure that out.

Wish the software mod increased the temperature range, if I wanted one that did 1k Celsius or higher it's 20 grand, uhg. Wish I was rich enough to buy one, same situation as a high end 3d scanner. Would be so useful.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 20, 2021, 11:27:09 pm
The mod only unlocked the capabilities that were intentionally crippled. If there was no specific capability, there is nothing to unlock. Also, even if the sensor allowed, there is no calibration data exist for the extended temperature range.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bdeianov on September 21, 2021, 03:31:47 am
I do not think E4 had ever had extended temperature limit, I believe it was E6.

Ahh, ok, so maybe the e4 has a cheaper sensor but it's the e6 that is more limited by software then, I'll have to figure that out.


The "xt" models have the higher range. Those go from E5xt to E8xt. The single-range E5 to E8 have now been discontinued (you can find them used, but you are better off getting an E4 as the hardware is the same). The E4 only has a single-range version, but comes in WiFi (current) and non-WiFi (discontinued) models.

The "xt" models can be "liberated", including the higher range. My experience with an E5xt is in reply #1011 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3251462/#msg3251462).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: XOIIO on September 21, 2021, 04:27:02 am
Oh, well, then that takes this thoroughly out of budget again. :(
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on September 22, 2021, 04:51:51 am
This maybe impossible, but just a thought if you needed higher temp range.
Is there maybe a filter you can put in front to block 50% of the IR reaching the sensor so everything reads a temp 50% lower?  Or does it not work that way?

You'd have to calibrate it yourself with a lookup table to convert display temp to real temp, (Unless maybe you could hack that data into the units own cal table).   but it might work, assuming a filter like that is possible
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bill W on September 22, 2021, 10:45:44 am
Thermal cameras are linear in energy, not simply temperature. 

However a very crude external iris would do the job, just blank off the outer 75% of the lens area to reduce energy by 75%.  So a 20mm diameter lens would become a 10mm central aperture.

Do note that the temperature of the blanking is then part of the equation of apparent image temperature
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 22, 2021, 12:16:51 pm
If I needed a thermal camera to measure high temperatures, say up to 750C or even 1000C, I would look for a used Ex fire service thermal camera. Such cameras often came with multiple temperature ranges that were automatically selected as the target temperature increased. In a fire fighting scenario it is no uncommon to find very high temperature targets so these came rare ‘made fir the job’. You would want a camera that directly reads temperature from the sensor array, rather than one that uses a separate IR thermometer module. That means you are looking for a Microbolometer based camera rather than a BST type.

Things to note:

1. If viewing shiny targets, such as metal, the Emissivity of the target needs to be carefully considered. Shiny steel at room temperature may have a different emissivity when glowing cherry red. Most fire fighting cameras have a fixed emissivity so will not automatically correct for different emissivity especially… you would have to estimate from the provided readings and maybe some real world testing using contact and non contact measurement methods.

2. Fire fighting cameras are calibrated t give a decent indication of target temperature but the designer is unlikely to have expected laboratory use so the temperature measurement accuracy may be a little less than a high end scientific thermal imaging system. Gain the accuracy may be tested in real world scenarios.

3. Surplus fire fighting cameras appear on eBay regularly, especially in the USA. Some are surplus after an equipment refresh and others are retired from service due to performance degradation or faults. It is not uncommon to see dozens of fire fighting cameras sold by the palette load at US government auctions ! These get bought in bulk, tested and resold by surplus dealers. Some work, some are untested and some are faulty. Buy wisely ! I recommend buying a camera that is stated as working and is shown with its display lit and providing a thermal image with reasonable temperature measurement for ambient conditions.

4. A fire fighting thermal camera is a specialist piece of kit and it’s embodiemnt may seem less than ergonomic for hobby use but it is built fir tough conditions and ruggedness so forgive the ‘clunky’ appearance and focus on what it can offer in practical terms.

5. Do not over pay ! I am ever surprised at how inexpensive surplus fire fighting cameras are on eBay. I have seen some real bargains but sadly shipping and VAT to the UK ruins the deal fir me :( I have seen working MSA 5000 series cameras for less than $200 and bought one a few years ago for only $100 and it works fine. As a case in point, the MSA 5000 series camera that I bought from the USA for $100 contained an excellent Indigo/FLIR  Omega/M10 160 x 120 pixel VOx camera core that is easily deployed on its own and may be configured using FLIR configuration software. The Omega cores lens may be manually focussed and do not let the 160 x 120 pixel resolution put you off…… do you want ultra sharp pretty pictures or temperature measurement ? Sadly I do not think the Omega core can measure very high temperatures without a suitable filter/diaphragm but this gives you an idea of why I think Ex fire fighting thermal cameras can be absolute bargains. They are waterproof so the interior is often like new even if the exterior is tatty.

6. Know that if you buy surplus kit it comes without a warrantee and can fail at any time. You may have to put some effort into restoration, such as a replacement screen protector and new cells in the battery and possibly  make your own charging dock. All relatively simple and when these inexpensive cameras are involved, well worth the effort.

7. Fire fighting thermal cameras range in price and many that are now surplus cost their original owners $10K to $20K so you are getting professional kit for a bargain price  :-+

8. A fire fighting camera from the late 1990’s and 2000’s will not produce the pretty colourised images or offer the functionality of an Ex series camera…..but it is more affordable, offers greater temperature measurement range and may be considered an excellent entry into thermal imaging fir many users who do not wish to spend a lot of money on a thermal camera.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 22, 2021, 12:28:09 pm
As a side note, I placed a standard photographic Tiffen Haze glass filter in front of my Exx series camera and it worked well as a high temperature filter/attenuators but some real world testing would be needed to calibrate that combination if any sort of accurate measurement was needed and not just imagery. IRISYS chose this approach th their high temperature camera. I own one. It has two calibrated ranges, one standard and one with the ‘filter’ attached. The filter is a plastic membrane mounted in a screw on adapter and this increases temperature measurement to +500C. As others have stated, another option is an IRIS in front of the lens. There are many very nice quality, affordable IRIS assemblies on eBay for microscope and photographic use. I bought some from China for just a few Dollars. They come in different sizes to meet differing applications. Personally I prefer the multi range thermal camera however.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 22, 2021, 03:33:56 pm
With the filter approach the liberated E4 can be used, since it has the External Window Compensation mode. See this post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1383838/#msg1383838 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1383838/#msg1383838)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 22, 2021, 04:05:48 pm
The official FLIR “range doubler” attachment for the Exx series and others is detailed here….

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-2000celcius-temperature-range-doubling-adapter-exx-txxx-t197993t199235/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-2000celcius-temperature-range-doubling-adapter-exx-txxx-t197993t199235/)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on September 22, 2021, 04:09:12 pm
The DIY range extender that I played with…. Just a single coated photographic grade glass Haze filter. Apparently multi-coated types do not work as well.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/range-extender-for-thermal-cameras-cheap-option-from-fraser/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/range-extender-for-thermal-cameras-cheap-option-from-fraser/)

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: garymeter48 on September 29, 2021, 02:48:20 pm
I'm going to be receiving a new E5-XT camera shortly. I purchased a T1020 for my company, and I will be receiving the E5-XT as part of the Flir Rewards program, for my personal use of course ;) Looking at the specs between the E5-XT and the E8-XT it looks like the IR resolution bumps up to 320x240 and a slight increase in temperature range. Can I safely upgrade the E5 using the procedures found in this forum, and will the temperature range also be enhanced to match the E8-XT? Also, are there any other features that would be added with the 'liberation' process. Thanks for responses in advance.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 29, 2021, 05:36:50 pm
E4 is a single range device, there was nothing in the liberation procedure pertaining to extending temperature range.
You need to search this thread for E5-xt, if nothing found then nobody did it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: davith on October 13, 2021, 12:03:55 am
I may have bricked my used E4.

I bought the device online recently with no hint the device had been tampered with, no warning screen or anything.
Checked the version, it was 2.3.0, old version, should update to the latest FLIR version. Still nothing to cause suspicion.

Launched up FLIR Tools to upgrade to 3.16.0 for the latest version.

Installed it, rebooted the camera... and the measurement cross-hair was gone. That was concerning... Tried to ping the device over USB at 192.168.02. Nothing.
Tried to read the device from FLIR Tools again. Nothing.
Now I am quite worried.
Tried the recovery procedure. Nothing.

The device was initial recognized as Flir E4, now it's just "FLIR USB Video -". It does power up and it does show thermal data, so it's still functional, I guess I should be happy about that. It takes photos with the original quality I believe but can not be recognized by any PC software that I've tried.

In hindsight I checked the info on the few images that I took before the upgrade. "Thermal Resolution 320x240". Fuck.

Thanks for all the work to everyone here. I wish everyone in the community was as careful and considerate as you all are.
So how screwed am I? Do I have any options to try and fix this?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: natman69 on October 13, 2021, 07:05:41 am
There are two models of E4 (HW is different) and from the firmware version you had before upgrade I think you have the old one.
Firmware 3.16.0 is for new models.

I think you must try to downgrade to 2.3.0 again.

Hope this hint can help...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: davith on October 13, 2021, 01:50:17 pm
Hello, thanks for the hints! My HW revision is 1.2L so I believe that it is compatible with 3.16.0. FLIRs software was happy to apply the upgrade :/

I just bought a second hand FLIR E4 1.2L Non-Wifi that had 2.11.0 software installed.
...
I got upgraded to version 3.16.0 and to the point where I could start the liberation! That took about all of an hour, including all the time I was playing with every feature it had in each basic, advanced, and christmas pack modes, as well as backing up each mode individually to allow me to more easily swap between versions if I desire to.

I based that decision to upgrade off of this post.

That said, I can't even get flir's software to properly recognize the camera to apply a downgrade. It just says "FLIR USB Video -" instead of the 'FLIR E4' ish device that is saw before the 'upgrade'.

I also tried to use the "Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif" through "FLIRInstallNet.exe", but it says the connection times out without doing any processing as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: davith on October 13, 2021, 02:56:22 pm
I got FLIR Tools to acknowledge the camera by uninstalling and reinstalling the device drivers, but it fails soon after.
This means I might have the opportunity to downgrade back to 2.3.0, but I can't find the file.

This post has a link to it, but the link seems to be dead?

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg839561/#msg839561 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg839561/#msg839561)

Any chance someone else has one to offer?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 13, 2021, 03:03:59 pm
I would not try to downgrade, it may make matter worse.
Back in the time Flir device drivers were known to be flaky on Windows othef than XP. I recommend you get an XP virtual machine and install Flir drivers on it, then see if they can properly see and access the camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: davith on October 13, 2021, 04:57:11 pm
That worked! so far...

I did crash my computer a several times trying to launch the VM, no idea why that happened, very reliable BSOD if anyone wants a life hack for that...

Managed to install RNDIS, My camera was on 192.168.1.2, so that took a moment but it showed up on IFCONFIG, thank goodness. I've got all the current files 'backed up' as much good as they will do me.

I guess my only option from here is to attempt to apply the latest software from here in hopes it fixes the issues
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 13, 2021, 06:21:29 pm
OK. Now on that XP system run remove RNDIS to put the camera in USB mode and then try  on your regular OS computer if the software can now see it. You can always go back to RNDIS using your XP installation.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: davith on October 13, 2021, 07:48:03 pm
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd IT WORKS!
I must have unplugged, uninstalled drivers, reinstalled drivers, rebooted, ect ect 50 times. Got in to be recognized once.  Finally got the the RNDIS permanent option installed using FLIRInstallNet.exe and "Set_RNDIS_permament.fif", from there it was all easy sailing. Didn't have any issues connecting with FTP at any point in the rest of the process. Got the basic package installed by following the straightforward instructions in the pack.

I think I'll leave it like that for a bit. Lots of heartache, frustration, and terror over the past day getting everything broken then more broken then working again. Those Christmas presets look realllly cool though. Thank you so much! See yall in a few days once I get a handle on all the current fun features.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 13, 2021, 09:24:54 pm
Glad we could help. Enjoy your toy !  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Koontzy on October 15, 2021, 12:13:21 pm
Having some trouble hacking a E4 1.2L non wifi with firmware 3.16
RNDIS working but when I add common_dll and my new conf.cfc with my custom SUID, after rebooting I lost the MSX fonction (well, all the "image mode" setting) and camera look like low res instead of 320x240
Wondering if I should downgrade to 3.12 (that the newest basic package I found) and I've read fews times that downgrading is never a good idea 😅
Also, from what I read I should be carefull using wifi files on a non wifi version, maybe that why I lose MSX fonction and it's not working

edit : well, actually, common_dll is working (but it's the exact same size as the original one) and camera reboot and everything work like a stock one. Then the conf.cfc screw things up and I lose everything that is related to the vision camera. The temperature sensor work great
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on October 15, 2021, 12:48:35 pm
Be careful to replace files on the camera, don't rename existing files and copy in new ones.
You should be copying files off and saving them externally as your backup, then replace existing files if one already exists.
If you simply rename existing files, to get them out of the way, the cameras can find the old files and get confused. Especially with config files
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Koontzy on October 15, 2021, 01:13:41 pm
Well, like you probably heard lot of time here already, I was dumb and using SUID instead of serial number in conf.cfg...  :palm:
Everything is installed I am at the christmas package 😅
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Syntaximus on November 20, 2021, 07:17:35 pm
Hello all!

My friend is in need of a thermal imager and he linked me to this forum and asked if I could implement this modification.  It looks like this thread continues from a 300-page thread and I was just wondering...where do I start?  Has anyone written a guide along the way?  About how much learning time would it take for a beginner to start to understand the concepts you're putting to use here?

Thanks a ton and take care!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on November 23, 2021, 09:45:42 am
The guide/instructions are in the zip files you download.
You just need to read the posts carefully to make sure you are downloading the right files for the E4 fw version you have.

If you're doing the hack for someone else, make sure they know that there are no guarantees. You could make a mistake and brick their E4.

And they need to be aware of the limitations, they cannot do an official firmware upgrade on the unit after the hack or it will brick it. To do an official upgrade the hack must be removed and the camera restored to stock first. That is why it's critical to backup everything before replacing files.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 07, 2021, 03:09:03 am
Hi everyone, newbie hobbyist here. I recently got a E4 (e63900 t198547)that won't boot pass the logo screen, that is screen is blank after flir logo. It seems like a hack gone wrong

I am using a windows XP vm, and can connect through FTP to 192.168.0.2 after connect through usb on the first time (anonymous/NcFTP@, flir/3vlig says bad username/password)

after install Flir drivers and flir tools:
upon usb connection: ThermaCAM connect 3" \\IRCAM4007\Images information = 1326 Logon failure: unknown username or bad password
flir tools: import: no sources was found

FLIrInstallNet's :
get versions: Product identification is simply "Qx", OsImgKit 18.1.20, application up status is "DOWN", all the rest is blank (sw combination, appkit,bootloader, confkit, prodkit and serial number)
Check installation: CRC Appkit failed

I have downloaded all files through FTP:
/FlashBFS/system most files were last modified in DEC 2014, with common_dll.dll, bootlogo_legal.bmp rainhc.pal. lava.pal and arctic.pal last modified in OCT 2018
/FlashFS/System/appcore.d/config.d/conf.cfc is last modified in OCT 2018 as well
There is also an thermal image with 320x240 resolution in FlashIFS/DCIM/FLIR_100 with a timestamp of OCT 2018 20 minutes BEFORE last modified timestamp of common_dll.dll and conf.cfc



I have uploaded the entire files directory (zipped) here with timestamp preserved https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wuA9_M5r9ACP5AUs2fRWBD9n1PhAw4vV/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wuA9_M5r9ACP5AUs2fRWBD9n1PhAw4vV/view?usp=sharing)

I have read through a lot of the posts but I never found a similar situation. Is this one doomed? What other diagnostics process should I try first?

Thank you all !
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 07, 2021, 05:32:46 pm
Replace common_dll on the camera with the attached version and see if the camera boots.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 08, 2021, 01:21:17 am
Yes thank you it booted! however the crosshair is not seen, and when i pressed the trigger to take a picture it says "application appcore.exe encountered a serious error and must shutdown". after that videofeed is still live in the background, but buttons stopped working, except long press to power down. FTPed in, image is not actually saved

thermaCAM connect 3 still report same error "\\IRCAM4007\Images information = 1326 Logon failure: unknown username or bad password"

attached is the error message image

edit: camera information from settings
E4 1.1L
software 2.3.0
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 08, 2021, 02:47:48 am
Use Telnet to connect to port 23 (can use puTTY program for that or other Telnet client) , login and run this command:

suid

You may need to enter login credentials again if get invalid password message first time.

Post the result.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 08, 2021, 04:39:43 am
\>suid.exe
1151D50200581529

Thank you!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 08, 2021, 03:55:50 pm
Try replacing the existing conf file with this one ( unzip and put in  FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\   ).

After copying the file, power off the camera, remove the battery for 10 sec, reconnect and power on.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 08, 2021, 11:01:27 pm
Thank you Bud!!! Now its taking pictures, i have attached a few down here.
After usb/ftp connection, the msx mode will be stuck on black and white sometimes but a cold reboot will fix it, also attached a pic

I see that the thermal image is already 320x240, thank you again for not only fixing it but also increased the resolution!

For my own curiosity and maybe posterity, i am wondering what went wrong in the first place

I see the common_dll.dll has a version of 1.12.1.0, but the SW version is 2.3.0, is it because someone hacked it in 1.xx and then tried to update the software to 2.3.0? Or was the common_dll.dll and conf.cfc got corrupted during transit?

Not really sure if the system is in a "clean" state, can i use the menu to factory reset the software to a known "clean" state?

Thank you again!!

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on December 08, 2021, 11:46:58 pm
Be advised that the E4 always produces a 320x240 pixel image, no matter what the thermal resolution setting. Upscaling is used to achieve this. For actual thermal resolution, look at the saved picture in FLIR Tools on the right hand side information pane. That shows the true thermal resolution.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 09, 2021, 01:20:20 am
@windtalker
Ok, glad it now is working. Both the dll and conf file were botched. The dll was a fraction of the normal size and the conf file was corrupted. I think the firmware was 2.3.0 and was fine but the owner proceeded with patching and this was when things gone wrong.
We are in a wrong thread actually, v2.3.0 should belong to the other E4 thread, it was the original thread with upgrade procedures for versions equal or earlier than 2.3.0. Upgrade procedure in this thread is for v3.x.x. That threw me off at first as i could not properly decrypt your original conf file until i realized 2.3.0 used different stuff.

Anyways, do you want to stay with what you got or go ahead and unlock extra palletes, measurement tools, PIP and stuff? As it is now resetting to factory state should be fine, i do not think it will affect the res upgrade.

And can you now connect to the picture storage through USB?

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 09, 2021, 01:25:36 am
For actual thermal resolution, look at the saved picture in FLIR Tools on the right hand side information pane. That shows the true thermal resolution.

Thermal resolution can be checked right on the camera in archive view mode. Click on a picture and in the Properties panel scroll to "IR Image Hight/Width" or something to that extent, cant remember the exact parameter.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 09, 2021, 05:04:58 am
Hi Bud thank you! The USB mode through FLIR tools is still not working. It now shows a splash screen recognizing the E4 but when i click to import from the E4, it still shows sources not found. Also connect to live stream doesnt work and is grayed out.
ThermaCAM connect 3 still showing same error.
I have however downloaded the image through FTP and then load them into FLIR tools, which showed IR resolution to be 320x240 under image information.
Do you think I need to load the "Remove_RNDIS_Permament.fif" in order for USB mode to work?

And yes I'd love to have all the extra unlocked! currently the options showing on device are:
image mode: alignment distance, thermal MSX, Thermal, picture in picture, thermal blending and digital camera
measurement: center spot, hot spot, cold spot and no measurement
color: iron, rainbow, gray, below alarm and above alarm
temp scale: auto, manual

edit: FLIRInstallNet shows Local Area Connection 2 - 192.168.0.2 instead of FLIR E4

check installation failed, "CRC Appkit failed"

get Versions:
product indentification: QX
SW combination: 2.3.0
Appkit 2.1.2
Bootloader 16.1.5.0
Confkit E4 1.1L
OSImgkit 18.1.20
ProdKit: 0

edit 2:
got into the hidden menu from camera information, USB mode is RNDIS, tried to select MSD, UVC, and RDNIS+MSD, non worked, once I click middle button it goes back to the hidden menu home, USB mode is still stuck on RNDIS

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 09, 2021, 06:16:41 am
You can't change modes through the hidden menu, that feature was disabled in the firmware at some point. You'd need  to run the .fif to turn RNDIS off. You can always put it back on, so go ahead and see if Flir Tools can see the camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 09, 2021, 08:06:50 am
Yep, after using the "Remove_RNDIS_Permament.fif", it is in MSD+UVC mdoe, comfirmed with hidden menu and FLIR tools, import and video streaming both working! Thank you!

I guess the next step is to back up everything and proceed with the menu hack?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 09, 2021, 02:32:36 pm
Yes you can make a backup. I will send some files later today.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 10, 2021, 02:11:47 am
Try the attached files. The zip archive names represent paths where the files should go.
Reboot and check the palettes, measurement presets and Settings menu. Hopefully I did not goof anything up (I am assuming you made a backup prior to the change).
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 10, 2021, 04:51:12 am
Thank you! I think it worked! Although i see that in /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/ there exists toolbar-config_z3.xml, facet_z3.rcc and design_ui_z3.xml and the included files did not have the trailing _z3 in the name. Should I have renamed the replacement file and overwrite the existing ones?

I also spotted in the MSX mode there is some mismatch on the overlay positions. In the first pic the DELL logo and thermal image and DELL logo is not overlapping, is this normal?
probably normal since the 2 cameras have some distance between them

Thank you again bud! You did wonders!

edit: forgot to mention the programmable button showed up in settings menu as well!
Also forgot to ask, i assume in this state updating to 3.16.0 (current latest) will brick the device? Since I do not have the unhacked common_dll.dll and conf.cfc I dont think I can revert back to factory state
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 10, 2021, 05:32:19 am
Thank you! I think it worked!

OK, this is one happy ending. These babys are hard to kill, Flir did a good job putting survival measures in place.

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Although i see that in /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/ there exists toolbar-config_z3.xml, facet_z3.rcc and design_ui_z3.xml and the included files did not have the trailing _z3 in the name. Should I have renamed the replacement file and overwrite the existing ones?

No, do not touch them, leave them alone.

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I also spotted in the MSX mode there is some mismatch on the overlay positions. In the first pic the DELL logo and thermal image and DELL logo is not overlapping, is this normal?
probably normal since the 2 cameras have some distance between them

There should be a setting to adjust alignment distance , i think it is the fat double arrow icon in your last screenshot. It should also be accessible in the Settings menu.

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Also forgot to ask, i assume in this state updating to 3.16.0 (current latest) will brick the device? Since I do not have the unhacked common_dll.dll and conf.cfc I dont think I can revert back to factory state

It will certainly brick it. I would stick to 2.3.0. Your hardware is 1.1 and i am not sure if you can upgrade to anything beyond 2.3.0 in the first place. And you will not gain much if anything with 3.16.0, all menus and functions remain the same.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: windtalker on December 10, 2021, 06:13:09 am
Yeah alignment distance solved it! Working like a charm

Thank you again Bud!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 10, 2021, 01:35:42 pm
Enjoy your camera!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: gearshredder on December 30, 2021, 11:33:53 am
Wow this thread is still going. Bud, you are doing amazing work.  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 556 on January 07, 2022, 03:16:54 pm
My flir E4 wifi arrived today and I the liberation procedure went smoothly! Thank you Bud for all the work do for the community on this!

For those looking on where to order the camera from, I ordered my flir E4 wifi from TEquipment a few months ago and it was backordered so it only recently shipped. The camera is hardware version 2.0L and software 3.16.0. The calibration card has a date of April 28, 2020, which is recent, so I would assume that there is no newer software than 3.16.0. I have not tried the advanced package yet.

For those not wanting to dig through endless pages of the thread:

I used the 3.12.0  files from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)

and the new 3.16.0 dll from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082)

and instructions on how to put the camera in RNDIS mode from here (I had problems with the website so I had to access it through web archive) https://web.archive.org/web/20190409142550/https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20190409142550/https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/)

This was done on a windows 10 desktop.

Thank you! I'm a total dumbass and did not realize that the download package contained the proper step by step guide (yea sometimes you should open the readme.txt  |O). I was endlessly searching the forum here for the 17-point guide everyone were refering to with no luck!

I just managed to unlock the E4 WiFi that arrived today. Calibration date 2021-11-25. HW version 2.0L and Software still 3.16.0.

By connecting the camera to my WiFi and using the IP-adress it got on the network (found it by checking the DHCP lease on my router, its hostname is IRCAMxxx) for FTP and Telnet i could bypass having to struggle with RNDIS at all. Installed the Basic package, will use that for a while before trying out the advanced one.

Bud, you truly are a hero. <3
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Psi on January 09, 2022, 09:57:10 am
Thank you! I'm a total dumbass and did not realize that the download package contained the proper step by step guide (yea sometimes you should open the readme.txt  |O). I was endlessly searching the forum here for the 17-point guide everyone were refering to with no luck!

You're not the only one who's done that. Not by far!
I put off buying an E4 for years because every time I tried to search through the 100's of forum post for the one with all the steps I always gave up.
I didn't want to grab any of the files until I had found the post with the steps and read through it to make sure I grabbed the right files.   :palm:

It would be a good idea if someone can add a line to the first post saying something like...
'The step by step guide and instructions can be found in the readme text file inside the zip files'
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tillmoss on January 09, 2022, 02:14:06 pm
Hi, I’m new.
I have FLIR E5 WiFi with 3.16.0 firmware. Can I add this mod/hack to my camera? Where I can find a guide to do this?
I found only old guides for 2.x firmware. Is the same for 3.16.0?
I’m interested in advanced mod

In the conf.cfg I see this line “ .caps.config.name text "app E4" ” Must I change E4 to E5?


Thanks to all
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 556 on January 09, 2022, 07:27:39 pm
Hi, I’m new.
I have FLIR E5 WiFi with 3.16.0 firmware. Can I add this mod/hack to my camera? Where I can find a guide to do this?
I found only old guides for 2.x firmware. Is the same for 3.16.0?
I’m interested in advanced mod

In the conf.cfg I see this line “ .caps.config.name text "app E4" ” Must I change E4 to E5?


Thanks to all
1. Yes, you can do this to your E5 WiFi.
2. Download the 3.12 pack that Bud have posted here, and open the readme as a start:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)
3. Not sure, i think i saw someone mentioning replacing E4 with Ex for other cameras, but i never really bothered to read more as i have an E4.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on January 09, 2022, 08:01:03 pm
I have just Liberated my E5 2.0L with 3.16.0.

Took me longer reactivating my old W7 Laptop and get it sorted for Telnet and FTP than applying the actual Liberation.

I deviated a little from Bud's procedure. I decrypted my conf.cfc to conf.cfg made only the changes for resolution and noise, as this is all I care for at the moment, and then encrypted back to conf.cfc for upload to the camera. Worked like a charm.

Altho Bud's procedure calls for Putty for the Telnet operation, putty is not really needed, Telnetting from a Command Prompt window works just fine.

For Reference:

python cfccfg.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfg conf.cfc  <-encrypts a plain text configuration to the encrypted configuration file .cfc

while

python cfccfg.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfc conf.cfg  <-decrypts an encrypted configuration file .cfc to a plain text configuration file .cfg

Where as XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is the unique camera SUID as obtained in step 3 of Bud's procedure.

Thanks to all that made this Liberation possible.


tillmoss:

Yes you can mod your E5 camera.

The how to guide is included as a text file in the Basic_3.12.0.zip from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1397359/#msg1397359)

For executing step 7 of Bud's procedure I found it useful to put the conf.cfg file into the Python installation directory (in my case C:\python27) prior to processing it to conf.cfc

Bud's procedure steps for 3.12.0 and 3.16.0 liberation are essentially the same. Just be sure you upload the 3.16.0 common_dll.dll to the camera.
Use the 3.16.0 dll from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2252082/#msg2252082)

No, I'm not sure but I don't think you need to change .caps.config.name text "app E4" to E5, but I guess you could experiment with this.


EDIT: 556 beat me to it.  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tillmoss on January 09, 2022, 08:41:20 pm
Thanks to all!!!

In the next hours I will try. Can I enable also advanced menu in addition to resolution?
Is it possible to increase refresh rate?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on January 09, 2022, 11:08:06 pm
Yes, you can also get the advanced menu. Look for Bud's upload in this thread.

I'm not sure, I doubt, the refresh rate can be changed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 10, 2022, 01:44:02 am
Is it possible to increase refresh rate?

No.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tillmoss on January 10, 2022, 06:57:01 pm
I have enabled “advanced” but is it normal that when I start my camera a warning message appears?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 10, 2022, 07:57:48 pm
Yes that is normal

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: randfee on January 17, 2022, 10:51:03 pm
I know I'm late but: Happy new year everybody!

I finally got around to liberate my christmas present to myself, E4 2.0L non-Wifi,  software 3.16.
With the full 320x240 resolution and all the liberated features I think it still is a capable camera for the price (paid 600$ for an open-package/refurb version on the FLIR website).
As a laser physicist/optics expert, I'm quite spoiled with 100k$+ cams (of all spectra) at work, but the E4 has already made for some nice science experiments with my kids and discovered quite a bunch of unwanted thermal bridges as friends' houses!  :-+

Thanks very much to everybody involved in this, mostly 5-10 years back, especially Bud!  Do you have some kind of donate button around so I can buy you a beer?
There were some more or less ambiguous workflows/guides and downloads here, most is hard to find. I kept wondering why you guys (DaveWB, Bud) don't consolidate it a little more in the first post or something... but yeah, the 'quest-like' endeavor of finding the 3-4 proper workflows felt a bit like living through an adventure film.


Things that don't work as smoothly as (I) expected:

Some questions regarding usage:






For the record, here's my rough procedure:
...
...
From hereon out, it's really well described in the readme.txts from  Basic package, advanced package and christmas package from bud, so really no need to repeat it.


bottom line:
By far the most annoying/undefined problem for me was trying to establish a stable USB/network connection. After RNDIS was activated, no matter the windows version (WinXP 32, Win7 32bit, Win10 64) all of them only work like 30% of the time. In most cases I connect the cam via USB, see a popup stating it found the camera (lower right) and then after 15-20s or so it states, that it can't connect. Using Flir Tools is a pain, can't find the camera most of the times even though I can connect to it via FTP. So I think I'll leave it in RNDIS because like this it usually only takes me 3 trials to be able to connect to the cam to retrieve images from /FlashIFS/DCIM..   
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2022, 01:15:22 am
Hi randfee, great post and have more questions that I could answer, lol.
Will just try to answer a few things in no preferred order.
I am unaware of connectivity stability issues ,  for me it either worked or it did not. I always advocate for WinXP when people try to perform the upgrade and that usually works on Virtual Machine setup as well as on a computer host OS. Mu E4 works for me personally on Win 7 trouble-free, so the thing here appears to be user-specific environment, and there seem to be no good answer as it depends on how Flir drivers behave in the user-specific environment. You know, that antivirus stuff and such. This has nothing to do with the hack and is the baseline how would your Flir camera work if everything was original.

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there was no prior design_ui.xml in FlashBFS\system\ui.d\ but only these files
design_ui_z3.xml
facet_Z3.rcc
design_ui_z3ets.xml
toolbar-config_z3.xml
toolbar-config_z3ets.xml

That is how it is supposed to be. Users MUST follow the procedure in Readme.txt and do not try to overthink it. Much was left behind the scene why in terms of file names. It was proven by some smart ass people who thought they were smarter than the hack publishers and they ended up in hot water, LoL. Just follow the guide, we did not have time OR desire to explain things bit by bit.

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what's the purpose of the item: image mode > object distance?
This is a correction factor into the object temperature formula. It has no to do with the hack. You have it in the original camera firmware. If you carefully test same object at a given distance playing with this parameter, you will see the resulting temperature measurement changing. Perhaps more detectable with objects located at bigger distances from the camera.

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my E4 always records both images, thermal + visible (camera) as two files. Is there are way to deactivate the VIS images.
This is an item in the camera setup screen, you can set it to save as separate files or in a same file,  check the camera Settings, I can't recal lthe name for this parameter, you should be able to find it there.

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I don't understand the screening mode and the sports mode. As for the latter, Bud mentioned that it had to be activated, might not serve a purpose. The screening mode is for measuring people? It talks about a P button, but I thought that button was only on the Exx series?
P is the "Programmable" button. There is no dedicated button in the hacked E4 so I recall the "Back"  button was programmed to act as the "Programmable" button.
Screening mode is to screen objects' temperature against a averaged baseline. When screening mode is activated, there are prompts to press the programmable button a few times while pointing to the reference object  to establish the baseline, then the objects you point the camera to will be evaluated against the reference baseline. If to speak about screening people's faces temperature for example, you would establish the reference by taking a few samples of healthy people's faces, then start checking other people's faces temperature.  This is a rough explanation but I did gave a reference to a FLIR document where they provide instructions how to use Screening mode. You see, this is one of those things that the users wishing to perform the hack have to do their homework. So please allow me to send you back to my post where I gave that reference to FLIR documentation if you want to learn how to use screening mode.

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I kept wondering why you guys (DaveWB, Bud) don't consolidate it a little more in the first post or something..
People must be blind because there are links in the original post. Just follow the links in the original Dave's post. This is not my thread so I can't edit it but I think there are proper links in the initial Dave's post and I 've tested them a few times when I got comments like that. I am not sure why we are getting these comments, other than that people must have become so lazy these days that they want everything be chewed to them like to grade 1 students. As you yourself eluded to, it has been quite a few years since the work was done, and the environment and the atmosphere existing at the time have to be understood . Back then E4 was a hot cake, everyone was doing hacks and everyone knew how to switch RNDIS on, FTP to the camera and do things. My posts were written in that atmosphere and therefore omitted all that low level stuff. It was expected from the user that they know how to do it. I focused on providing the Core instructions and replacement files. Now several years later  some newbies want to be spoon fed, how to get connectivity to the camera, how to configure the IP, this or that, while being yet miles away from starting the actual upgrade procedure. That was not the spirit that existed here on EEVBlog when my posts were written. Quite a few people who dedicated themselves to learning and reading the entire thread - they all succeeded and successfully upgraded.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on January 18, 2022, 01:34:53 am
I can answer the question about Ex series calibration……

Way back in the beginning Circa 2013, when the a E4 was released, Version 1.18 and 1.19 were ‘unmolested’ by FLIR and it was relatively simple to release the hardware platforms full potential and create an E8+. That said, it took some smart members of the forum to work out how to edit configuration files and recalculate CRC numbers so that the camera woukd accept the changes.

Why do I mention this ? Well as soon as FLIR heard that people were upgrading their E4 cameras to E8 specification, they moved to make life harder for us by introducing obstacles in the upgrade path and to make the process more complex. As part of their countermeasures to the upgrade FLIR removed the very useful Service Menu contents as these might assist ‘Hackers’ in some way. After Firmware 1.19 the Service Menu was no longer present on the Ex series cameras.

The Service Menu provides all manner of useful functionality, including the ability to update the dead pixel map, NUC table and to calibrate the camera. This is the functionality that you are seeking and sadly is is no longer available to you. There was some work to graft the Service Menu back into the later firmware releases but I believe important sub routines were missing so the functionality of the resulting installation was limited.

So in Précis….. you cannot calibrate your camera yourself or update its dead pixel map if another pixel in the microbolometer fails. The good news is that the Ex series are good cameras and usually a calibration check shows their measurement accuracy to still be within specification after many years of use. The occurrence of new dead pixels is thankfully rare but sadly not unheard of.

If you want the Service Menu you will need to buy a Circa 2013 E4 that is still running firmware 1.18 or 1.19. I sold both of mine so regret I cannot help on that front.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: 556 on January 23, 2022, 09:05:37 pm
@Randfee
The biggest bonus of the WiFi version is that you can skip the whole RNDIS step. I haven't found any real use for the WiFi capability, but then again i never changed the USB into RNDIS mode and it connects just like any camera in Windows 10/11 when i plug in the USB so file transfers is no big deal as a home gamer.

Running a script to do an FTP copy of all images from the camera when detected on the network sounds like a fun idea, maybe I'll try to get that set up one day.

@Bud I don't expect any guidance at all, I'm grateful for all the work many of you have done to allow us to follow in your footsteps. Still, its quite stressful as a newbie to learn everything at once, and hope that you don't mess up an expensive (to me) piece of technology. :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on January 27, 2022, 04:36:10 pm
My apologies in case I missed something or if this has been discussed already. I was wondering if there is a way to modify or add to the MSX Alignment distance selection. It be great, if possible at all, to add 0.2m and perhaps 0.1m.

Any chance this might work ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 28, 2022, 06:19:17 am
Possible but alignment will only work over a small area of the image, because separation distance between the thermal and visual cameras becomes comparable to distance to the object.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on January 28, 2022, 01:53:45 pm
Thanks for the reply Bud. I might give this a try.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Tolek on February 09, 2022, 09:32:46 pm
@DaveWB
@Bud

@ALL other people involved in unlocking / decryption / manuals

Thank you for your work.
New e4 Wifi now behaves like e8 :) with advanced menu :)
   [the splash screen do not bother me]
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Donutsfritos on February 20, 2022, 11:14:44 pm
Hi, I followed the guide but must have goofed something up. My E4 hangs on the splash screen. I can ping it at 192.168.250.1 and 192.168.250.2 , but when I try to connect via FTP with WinSCP, it keeps telling me access is denied and continuously prompts for a password. "3vlig" does not work. Leaving the field blank does not work. What do I do about this?

Nevermind, I found the post discussing the recovery procedure. I successfully rolled back the changes. I think where I screwed up is failing to run the "stopapp" command. When I open a terminal in WinSCP and enter that command, it says that it's not recognized. Do I have to use Telnet from the command prompt for it to work? I know how to enable it, but I didn't think it would be necessary. Do I need to downgrade to 3.12.0 before I do the install, or will it work the same for 3.16.0? Thanks in advance. I did read a lot of the forum posts and it helped a lot, but there are a LOT of posts to go through. Sorry if my questions have been answered already.


Got it working. I was using the wrong "common_dll". My bad
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 04, 2022, 04:12:25 pm
Hi guys,

I'm new here and read almost all the posts about hacking the FLIR E4. I just got mine, it's a E4 2.0L with firmware 3.16 [attach=2]. Since 6 hours I'm trying to apply the resolution hack but I did not succeed. I followed all manuals:

- I could establish the connection from my Windows 10 64 bit PC via USB to the cam.
- I can open all folders with FileZilla 3.58.0 and made a backup.
- I downloaded the "common_dll_3.16" and extracted it.
- I downloaded the "Basic_3.12.0" and extracted it.
- I put the serial number "639082195" into the conf.cfg and saved it.
- I used Python27 to convert the conf.cfg with the SUID "40B9CF0200382C07" into the "conf.cfc".
- I copied the "common_dll.dll" and the "conf.cfc" into the folders.

I don't get a better resolution, and worse of all, the menu is not working any more. The picture select option is not available any longer and the temperature measuring crosshair is reduced to "middle" and "off" but for both options it just stayed off [attach=1]. I also read similar issues from other users and switched to the "cfccfg_V2" but the problem stays the same.

When I copy the original conf.cfc on the E4 2.0L 3.16, the menu works like before [attach=3].

Can somebody please help me?  :-//
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on March 04, 2022, 04:37:29 pm
Be sure the IR resolution setting and Noise Setting in the config file are set correctly before encrypting it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 04, 2022, 04:45:43 pm
Hi,
and thanks for the replay!

As I said before, I am a noob and therefore worked straight according to the manual included in the "Basic_3.12.0.zip" and the one in the forum. IR resolution settings are correct (see attached file). The problem is, that not only the resolution stays low, also half of my menu is gone.
I bet the error is somehow rediculous but I dont find it...  |O

Greetings
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on March 04, 2022, 05:08:24 pm
Did you remove the battery to force a cold start ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 04, 2022, 05:12:33 pm
Yes! As I said before, all by the manual. I also can see the conf.cfc has an effect on the camera. With the new one, MSX is gone and crosshair, too. I put back the old one (even with the new dll still on the cam), works like before with bad resolution but with image menu.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on March 04, 2022, 05:22:58 pm
Try using your own cfc, decrypt it, change the resolution setting and noise setting only and then encrypt it again and try out without changing any menu features.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 04, 2022, 05:27:43 pm
Hi,
and thanks again for the help!
Do you have a link to a manual for me how to decrypt, change the settings and encrypt again?
Sorry I am noob!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2022, 05:40:38 pm
Yes! As I said before, all by the manual. I also can see the conf.cfc has an effect on the camera. With the new one, MSX is gone and crosshair, too. I put back the old one (even with the new dll still on the cam), works like before with bad resolution but with image menu.

Your new conf.cfc does Not have an effect on the camera, based on your description. The symptoms you are experiencing indicate the conf.cfc is not loaded at all. You should focus on investigating why it is not loaded. This may happen if SUID is used in the conf file instead of the camera SN, or if you have more than one conf file on the camera in a same folder.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 04, 2022, 05:50:15 pm
Hey Bud!

Thank you for your help!
As I said before; when I copy and replace the original conf with the edited, the menu is broken. When I copy back the original again, it works. It is not affected by which dll I use.

I just double checked:

File I downloaded from you (thx by the way) # ID 6390XXXXX
I substituted with # ID 639082195
For the encryption I use python cfccfg_v2.py 40B9CF0200382C07 conf.cfg conf.cfc

I did not rename old dll or cfc but replaced them (overwrite).

I will try decrypting and encrypting the original file (attached) and keep you up to date if I find a solution!

Cheers and thank you!

BTW
I am a total noob when it comes to programming and hacking, but I am a thermographic freak  :-+
We did some crazy stuff in the past:

https://tbi.eiif.org/projects/HKW/index.html
(This is a 42 megapixel thermographic panorama picture that has been merged with a 3D-point cloud. You have to go on the menu on the left hand side to switch channels.)

https://tbi.eiif.org/projects/DT360/tour.html
(this is a 25 megapixel thermographic panorama picture that has been combined with a 500 megapixel RGP panorama image, also calibrated.)

https://tbi.eiif.org/projects/EiiF/Viewer2805.html
(Interactive viewer where you can use a lever to switch between RGB and thermography. Works for every cam that has thermal and RGB lens, also with calibration in tool.)

Panorama pictures are geometrically calibrated and stored in full radiometry.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on March 04, 2022, 06:38:38 pm
Sebastian,

this is my way of applying the Resolution mod only.

Once the resolution works for you, you can try applying the menu mod as per Buds suggestions.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2022, 06:55:42 pm
As I said before; when I copy and replace the original conf with the edited, the menu is broken. When I copy back the original again, it works. It is not affected by which dll I use.

You MUST use the new conf only with the updated DLL.  Copying new conf to the camera that still has the factory DLL will get you the problem that you are having.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 04, 2022, 08:26:08 pm
Hi all,
as I said before, I used dll 3.16 and conf 3.12 together.
I also did it according to the manual that was delivered with 3.12 -basic.
I will try again but up to now I did all according to the manual... sorry for bothering you...
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2022, 09:08:36 pm
Make sure that the DLL was successfully replaced, by checking its timestamp on the camera. Maybe Filezilla quietly fails to replace the original one.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 04, 2022, 09:09:47 pm
Hi Bud,
It's a mistery... I checked it. Old dll was from 2020, new one from 2022... I will give it a new try with your manual tomorrow! Thank you!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2022, 09:21:06 pm
When you copy it the timestamp will change to the current date/time.

Edit: also compare the size of the stock DLL and the replacement one. They must be the same.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 05, 2022, 07:27:12 am
Hey guys,

I'm sorry to bother you again.
I did exactly according to your manual Bud, I even printed it out and used a textmarker like in school. I also wrote down every step I made and checked everything you two told me since yesterday, but the outcome is exactly the same... sorry...

1)   Switch on E4, connect via USB cable.
2)   Open FLIRInstallNet, select “Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif” and click “Run FIF”.
3)   Message appears “Connecting to IRCAM2195”.
4)   Serial number of my E4 is “639082195” so this is looking good.
5)   Using FileZilla 3.58.0 and connect to E4 by “192.168.0.2” with “flit” and “3vlig”.
6)   Full backup of the E4 to desktop. Opening FlashIFS/FLIRVers.rsc.
7)   .version.SUID text "40B9CF0200382C07".
8)   Downloading “cfccfg_V2.zip” from the link in the manual, extracting “cfccfc_V2.py” to C:\Python27.
9)   Copy “conf.cfg” from “Basic_3.12.0.zip” into Python27.
10)   Open with NotePad and change “# ID 6390XXXXX” to “# ID 63902195”.
11)   Leaving “# CRC03 11223344” as it is.
12)   Open cmd as admin, using “python cfccfg_v2.py 40B9CF0200382C07 conf.cfg conf.cfc”.
13)   Skipping the part with “Telnet” and “stopapp” because I have no Telnet installed, maybe this is the mistake? Or because I am using Windows 10 64 bit instead of Windows 7?
14)   Renaming “common_dll.dll” to “common_dll_org.dll” in FlashBFS\system\.
15)   Copying “common_dll.dll” from “common_dll_3.16.zip” into FlashBFS\system\.
16)   Checked time and date, went from 2020 to today (2022). [attach=1]
17)   Closing FileZilla. Disconnecting E4 from USB. Press and hold power for 6 seconds.
18)   Boot-up screen with “This camera etc.” appears as well as loading bar (no quick boot).
19)   E4 booted and is showing normal behaviour.
20)   Applying RNDIS temporary again.
21)   Reboot PC because E4 not connecting, leaving E4 running, connecting after the reboot.
22)   Copy new “conf.cfc” into FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\ with “overwrite”.
23)   Checking: date and file size changed. [attach=2]
24)   Closing FileZilla, disconnecting USB, press and hold power for 6 seconds, remove battery.
25)   Switching on E4.
26)   No resolution upgrade, menu broken.

dlls have the same filesize, cfc is bigger than the original one.
I'm desperate  |O
I don't understand why this is not working. I attached the files to this post, maybe they are corrupted? [attach=3]
I will try again and if it not works, I will try de- and encrpyting the original cfc

Thank you guys so much for your help!

edit: tried the cfccfc instead of cfccfc_V2, cfc have different size but the outcome is the same: bad resolution and broken menu. when I copy back the old cfc but keep the new dll, bad resolution but working menu.
Put the original cfc as attachment [attach=4], maybe they did something new or a hack-protection?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 05, 2022, 10:22:12 am
Hey fellas,

I managed to decrypt the original conf.cfc from my FLIR E4 2.0L with 3.16.0 firmware and noticed something odd:
I used "cfccfg.py 40B9CF0200382C07 conf.cfc conf.cfg":

Head:
#
# Generated at 2017-01-20 16:58:13
#
.caps entry
.caps.config entry
.caps.config.name text "app E4"
.caps.config.revision text "2.0"

Bottom:
# ID 639082195
# CRC03 971089ca
pNÀfyé¤p5¸1Ìée-l"6$fx„½žKQãP¨Bu!™‹$[™
¾aÌaÌd£air¬ßq¡Á)fòò„Å'g‚èÕi£ÈÛu Ì8öºàHyéH2xÒ#ÒÒ}& ;›¥Þ“å1)É[+z„‘p…¥ê-*­
ž½­·…µ_¹ ã>6‚*rÌxÅ™Ÿ…

Besides the bottom part, everything looks good. I thought maybe I fucked up the decryption but I could reproduce it tree times already.

I manually changed noise to "false" and "0" and resolution to "320" and "240".

Then I used "cfccfg.py 40B9CF0200382C07 conf.cfg conf.cfc" to encode conf.cfc.

Same problem...

Edit:
I did the same using cfccfg_v2.py and the strange fractured code at the bottom of the cfg did not appear. It ends like this:
# ID 639082195
# CRC03 971089ca

 :-+ BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT WORKED! THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH! I WILL POST A DETAILED MANUAL!  :-+
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 05, 2022, 12:53:00 pm
Hybrid hacking method

FLIR E4 2.0L with 3.16.0 firmware, manual for noobs like me:

Believe it or not guys, I’m a noob, but I’m aware of it so I always go strict by the manual. Super frustrating because it took me 10 hours to figure out what was wrong. Went 100% by the manual and got a lot of help from Bud and KCT_99 (thx guys!) but it was an error I could not find in the forum, so I will post a very detailed manual. Until further, I will call it the “hybrid hacking method”, because it should work for every cam (with and without WiFi) and no matter the version.

Short version was; It was not enough to substitute the ID (6390XXXXX) in the hacked conf.cfg but also the CRC03 (11223344). To get the CRC03 I used the cfccfg_V2.py and decrypted the original conf.cfc, copied both, the ID and the CRC03 to the hacked conf.cfg and encrypted it again to get the hacked conf.cfc.

But now from the start:

1)   I used Windows 10 with 64 bit. No need for Windows 7 or virtual machine.
2)   Install the free version of FLIR Tools (I used the latest version: 6.4.18039.1003). You will need it anyway because it is a damn fine software which can open the radiometric JPGs from your E4 and change e.g. measuring spot, colour code, temperature rage, can separate stacked images e.g. MSX etc.
3)   Get FLIR Device Drivers (version: 1.9.1.0), I found it here in the forum.
4)   FileZilla Client 3.58.0 (I used the latest X64, obviously).
5)   Python 2.7.9 (also found it here in the forum links).

Now for the work:

6)   Connect your FLIR E4 via USB to your computer. Start “FLIRInstallNet.exe” from your FLIR directory (C:\Program Files (x86)\FLIR Systems\FLIR Tools\bin).
7)   Check if “Camera” shows the FLIR cam, otherwise you did not install the FLIR Device Drivers correctly.
8)   Browse for “Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif” (also here from the forum) and click “Run FIF”. A message should appear that it was successfully. Now the camera will be set for RNDIS connection until you cold-start it again. You can also go for the “Set_RNDIS_permanently.fif” but I had trouble getting it of my FLIR E4 again.
9)   Now “ThermaCAM Connect 3” should show a message “Cam connected via 192.168.0.2” or similar. If not, try to reboot your computer but leave the FLIR E4 on.
10)   If this worked, start your FileZilla, connect to the E4 by IP: 192.168.0.2 (or whatever the ThermaCAM Connect 3 showed you), User: flir and Password: 3vlig.
11)   BACKUP! The backup saved my ass! Just copy all files from your FLIR E4 to e.g. the desktop. After copying there will appear an error message that not all files could be saved, ignore that. At least backup three files:

- _\FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\conf.cfc contains ID and CRC03
- _\FlashBFS\system\common_dll.dll
- _\FlashIFS\FLIRVers.rsc contains SUID
These three files are vital!

The tricky part:

12)   Go to _\FlashIFS\FLIRVers.rsc and open it with an editor. 2nd line after “.version entry” you will find: .version.SUID text "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX". Copy the 16 chars between the quotation marks.
13)   Go to your backup and copy the “_\FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\conf.cfc” to your Python27 folder (like e.g. C:\Python27\).
14)   Copy the cfccfg_V2.py to the same folder.
15)   I opened CMD (command line) as administrator for it. Then go “CD C:\Python27” (CD is short for change directory) to reach the folder. Encrypt the conf.cfc with: cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfc conf.cfg where the X are the 16 digits (numbers and letters) of your SUID.
16)   Now in the folder there will a file appear that is named “conf.cfg”. Open it with the editor.
17)   On the very bottom you will find ID and CRC03. They will look like this:

# ID XXXXXXXXX (9 digits)
# CRC03 XXXXXXXX (8 chars, numbers and letters)

Copy both of them.

18)   Use e.g. the conf.cfg from the “Advanced_3.12.0.zip”. Open it with the editor and go to the very bottom. Insert your ID and CRC03, save it and exit.
19)   Copy the hacked conf.cfg where you just put in your ID and CRC03 into your Python27 folder, delete or substitute the one you encrypted from the original conf.cfc. Also delete the original conf.cfc in your Python27 folder. So now you only have your hacked conf.cfg in your Python27 folder.
20)   Again use CMD as admin, go to C:\Python27\ and now decrypt it with: cfccfg_v2.py XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX conf.cfg conf.cfc remember to put in your SUID for the 16 X.
21)   Go with FileZilla to your FLIR E4 and copy the hacked conf.cfc to the folder: “_\FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\”. Make sure FileZilla asks you to substitute the original conf.cfc and allow it.
22)   Now go to “_\FlashBFS\system” and substitute the “common_dll.dll” with the one you need. I used the hacked “common_dll_3.16.zip” from the forum.
23)   Close FileZilla, disconnect your FLIR E4 from USB, press and hold the power-button for at least 6 seconds (even if the screen turns dark after 2 seconds), remove the battery for a few seconds (e.g. 10).
24)   That should have done the trick!

If you get a broken menu like me, where the image options are greyed out and cannot be selected, it is due to the missing entry for CRC03 or the wrong version of the cfccfg.py (V1 makes a mess out of my conf.cfc and V2 works like a charm) . It looks like in older version you could keep the 11223344 and it was running fine, for me it always ended up with the broken menu and the low resolution.

So why is this called “hybrid”? Because you have another option I tested successfully!

a)   Backup everything.
b)   Open the _\FlashIFS\FLIRVers.rsc and write down the 16 digit SUID.
c)   Copy conf.cfc to C:\Python27\ and decrypt it.
d)   Open the conf.cfg you just made and check for the following four lines:

.caps.config.image.settings.IRwidth int32 80
.caps.config.image.settings.IRheight int32 60
.caps.config.image.targetNoise.enabled bool true
.caps.config.image.targetNoise.targetNoiseMk int32 125

Substitute the 80 by 320, the 60 by 240, the true by false and the 125 by 0. This will enhance the geometric resolution from 80x60 pixels to 320x240 pixels and the thermographic resolution by reducing the artificial noise (true to false) from 125 millikelvin to 0 millikelvin.

e)   Save the conf.cfg. Delete the conf.cfc in your Python27 folder, decrypt the conf.cfg with the cfccfg_V2.py to get your hacked conf.cfc.
f)   Copy the hacked conf.cfc to the config.d folder and substitute the original one. Also copy and substitute the common_dll.dll in the system folder.
g)   Switch off the cam and restart it.

Now you have “only” the increased resolution (geometric and thermographic) but this also worked fine for me!

Note that the most crucial codes you have to save are the ID, CRC03 and SUID. If you lose one of these tree, you have a mayor problem! Also backup at least the conf.cfc and common_dll.dll! I attached the files I used to this post! Good luck and have fun!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on March 05, 2022, 02:21:23 pm
Good stuff. Congrats.
Na siehste, geht doch.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 05, 2022, 02:41:56 pm
CRC value is irrelevant. First, CRC check was disabled in the replacement DLL. Secondly, as soon as you change anything in the conf file, the CRC value becomes different. Therefore copying the old CRC value makes no difference.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 05, 2022, 02:48:11 pm
Hi Bud,
jeah I thought so, too. But I tried it several times and cound reproduce it. I also encrypted the conf.cfc forward and backward. As soon as the CRC03 is 11223344 I have 80x60 pixels and menu bug.
I still have no WiFi or whatever. I copied all files from the "Advanced_3.12.0" but the menu looks the same, which is fine for me, as long as the resolution is 320x240 pixels and 0mk artificial plus the menu works  :phew:
Thank you two again!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 05, 2022, 03:12:03 pm
For the sake of experimenting, you can try changing your CRC and trying that conf file. It should make no difference.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 05, 2022, 03:21:52 pm
Already tried that, when I go CRC03 to 11223344 I get the broken menu and lousy resolution.
cfccfg.pt made a mess at the ending of the conf.cfg with strange symbols. There I also got bad resolution + broken menu.
cfccfg_V2.pt made a correct conf.cfg but when I leave CRC03, same result, bad resolution + broken menu.
With cfccfg_V2.pt and my own CRC03 the resolution is enhanced + the menu works!
Can you please tell me what the "advanced" zip file will change when I put it on the E4? Is it more than resolution? I mean there are additinal files in the FlashBFS folder, what do they do?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 05, 2022, 03:31:35 pm
I mean change just 1 character in your CRC.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 05, 2022, 03:43:23 pm
Can you please tell me what the "advanced" zip file will change when I put it on the E4? Is it more than resolution? I mean there are additinal files in the FlashBFS folder, what do they do?

It was all described in my posts in this thread, with screenshots.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 12, 2022, 05:54:20 am
Hey Bud, hey guys!
Sorry for my late replay!
I bought a second E4 from the same shop, same hard- and software.
This time your manual worked instantly. I did not need to decrypt the conf.cfc. But it is the same as with the other one, only the resolution hack is working. Even if I copy all files from your advanced.zip to the proper folder (I get asked by FileZilla if I want to substitute files) menu stays the same.
This is no problem for me because the menu of the cam looks like before the hack but the resolution increased :)
Have a nice weekend!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: agiorgitis on March 12, 2022, 05:23:04 pm
Hey Bud, hey guys!
Sorry for my late replay!
I bought a second E4 from the same shop, same hard- and software.
This time your manual worked instantly. I did not need to decrypt the conf.cfc. But it is the same as with the other one, only the resolution hack is working. Even if I copy all files from your advanced.zip to the proper folder (I get asked by FileZilla if I want to substitute files) menu stays the same.
This is no problem for me because the menu of the cam looks like before the hack but the resolution increased :)
Have a nice weekend!
Something that may help you: Delete the files on the camera prior to sending the new ones. Don't let filezilla ask you to substitute the files on the camera.

I had similar issues like you in the past and I found out that in reality they were not being substituted.  :palm:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 12, 2022, 05:45:11 pm
Hi, thanks for the help!
I did the same with the conf and common_dll and both got substituted.
I had two exact same FLIR E4 and it worked on one, but not the other.
It is maddening I simply don't understand what is going on  :-DD
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on March 12, 2022, 06:07:59 pm
Do not know where you sourced the cameras but if they were not factory ones and had software upgraded or modified before, this could explain the weirdnesses you experienced. There would be no reason for a factory same software version to react differently to the liberation process.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 12, 2022, 06:10:29 pm
Hi,
both cams are new, in their original package. I even factory reset the first one that made so much trouble.
Maybe I will check it again tomorrow but what I definetly can say is that for both cams (hardware 2.0L and 3.16 firmware) only the resolution hack works, which is fine for me :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on March 27, 2022, 10:41:05 am
Hey all!
I just got a FLIR E6 from a friend, its the Hardware: E6xt 2.1L and Software: 3.16
I can activate RNDIS, reboot the PC, find the IP with IPCONFIG/ALL and its identical to the E4
192.168.0.2
If I try to access with FileZilla I get an error message.
Anyone ever hacked a FLIR E6? I just want to get access to the conf.cfc and change resolution and cancel artifical noise.
Thanks and have a nice sunday!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: korrado77 on April 08, 2022, 07:41:09 pm
Hello everyone!
I have a FLIR E5, modified in 2017 (many thanks to whoever created this possibility). Today I went back to see if there are any updates, I read a lot in the various treads and in the end I didn't understand anything  :palm:
I have the E5 1.2 L model and firmware mod 2.11, if I remember correctly I have changed the resolution and menu ... I still have the backup.
What procedure should I follow now?

sorry but I'm overly confused and can't find where the most recent files are indicated
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Sebastian82 on April 09, 2022, 04:54:14 am
Hi,
if you have hacked it for better geometric and thermographic resolution (removed artificial thermographic noise) why do you want to update it at all? If it is working, you could leave it as it is.
If you want to update it, you would have to copy the original files on your E5, then connect it to your computer via USB, update the software and/or firmware with FLIR Tools and then you would have to hack it again.
You can either look for the latest files (but it depends on what update your FLIR gets) or you simply go for the conf-file, download it from your cam, decrypt it, manually increase geometric and thermographic resolution, encrypt it again and copy it back!
Greets
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: korrado77 on April 10, 2022, 07:10:46 am
Hi Sebastian,
well they add for the same reason as updates, improvements. If I have read correctly among the thousand posts, but maybe I'm wrong, there should be some.
Anyway, for now I try to download the files and read what exactly I changed a while ago.
Thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bilok on April 14, 2022, 01:44:09 pm
Thank you Bud for your work :-+
I have finished christmas pack  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326)
+ some toolbars via https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2914600/#msg2914600 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg2914600/#msg2914600)  provided by abakis (thanks too)

At the end of the day all seems to work beside measurement toolbars. Belowe image how it looks like now. I thought that by "navigate" toolbar as in image toolbar-config2.jpg there will be 3spot and other icons. Someone know where i made mistake?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 14, 2022, 07:54:27 pm
It has been a while but i recall that menu options in toolbar-config are context dependent. If you have something put in it does not mean they will appear in the menu. It depends on the active features. Specifically, when you have user presets, that takes some other menu options away, which seems what you are seeing and which is in-line with abakis's post you referenced.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bilok on April 15, 2022, 08:56:01 am
Thanks, I removed these changes and personalized two user presets according to my requirements. One more time, Thanks Bud for your contribution :clap:
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on April 23, 2022, 11:42:42 am
There is a strange phenomenon today!

FLIR E4 2.0L 3.16, according to the same operation method as before, common is found_ dll. After DLL replacement, the progress bar is very slow, even if it is 100%, it still cannot successfully enter the working screen.

Restore backup common_ dll. DLL can work normally after repeated many times. The results are the same. It is still the same to restore the factory settings and try again.

This system version 3.16 was purchased, but I didn't upgrade it.

The following attachments are the original attachments and the common I exported from this E4_ dll. DLL, who can help me see.

thank!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 23, 2022, 02:18:04 pm
You have to follow the process, it is not simply replacing the dll, there are other files and actions involved.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on April 26, 2022, 01:10:52 am
 E4 2.0L 3.16
has been tried for many times. As long as the common_dll.dll is replaced, it will be stuck in the progress bar. I operate step by step according to the tutorial. Before that, I successfully cracked an E4 and replaced it back to the original one, which can work normally. Will the common_dll.dll of 3.16 be incompatible?
Look, Shifu has released 3.9, but I have tried to update it with tools for many times and still remind me that 3.16 is the latest version
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 26, 2022, 01:24:03 am
Who is Shifu?
You can't update modified cameras.
Make sure you do not have copies of original files left on the camera when you perform modification.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on April 26, 2022, 08:49:06 am
Sorry, my English is not good. I use the translation software.
I tried to update it after restoring the original file, deleting the copied copy and restoring it to USB mode with FIF. I tried to update it with Tools. it was detected that 3.16 is the latest version. Can you detect version 3.9? Can I update it offline?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on April 27, 2022, 11:27:16 pm
I am not sure what you mean by "detect version 3.9". Nothing is detected automatically, you have to know the version of the firmware your camera is running, and use the matching modified dll.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Schodoodles on May 20, 2022, 01:46:34 pm
Just used this method to perform the hack/update on an E4 2.0L running 3.16.0 I got second hand but had some issues despite reading/following here. I registered purely to give thanks and add a few helpful tips as this took me far longer than expected and I like to think I'm on the better end of the less clueless side!

Side note here that this worked on a Win 10 x64 machine running Python 2.7.18. Win Xp etc not needed.
I pretty much followed Sebastian82's step by step guide to doing this grabbing the 3.12 basic and advanced files but using the common_dll.dll he attached to his message. Link: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4044625/#msg4044625 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4044625/#msg4044625)

My only change to this was the way I ended up pushing the files to the camera itself. On my way to try to revert and try again from my initial backup I noticed it essentially directed you to soft-power off and then reconnect with a new anonymous user - I pushed the edited v3.16 DLL and .CFC files and hard rebooted the camera from there and then it booted with all menu options enabled and the camera in the higher res settings enabled. I'm guessing that there is a file lock held while fully powered on despite a reported 'successful' copy and this seemed to get around that.

Reset Instructions with the alternative file access options were found here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg1336326/#msg1336326)

@Sebastian82 - Did you want to give this amended method a try on your 1st camera that didn't update properly and see if that works for you too?
Hope that helps!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Ottoch on June 01, 2022, 01:58:23 am
Hello, are 2.0 HW and 3.16 FW  the latest versions when buying a new Flir E4?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on June 01, 2022, 02:34:22 am
3.16 is the latest version of E4. You can check it online using Tools.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: swperk on June 15, 2022, 05:08:16 pm
I just got my "modified" E4 out of storage and see that it has firmware version 1.19.8. A few questions, if I may:

Can I update the firmware without losing the "modifications?"
If not, is there a way to re-implement them with the latest firmware (3.16)?
Mine is an older E4, bought in 2014. Can I use the latest firmware?
I can't seem to find a list of firmware features. What are the significant improvements with the newest firmware over what I already have?

Thanks,
Stan
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on June 15, 2022, 05:23:31 pm
To be aware….

Firmware version 1.19 predates all attempts by FLIR to block the upgrade so may be considered the most ‘modification friendly’ release.

Version 1.19 is stable and works very well with the E4 hardware with no bugs that need fixing with an update

Version 1.19 contains a full service menu that enables a user to update the dead pixel map if a new dead pixel occurs. Calibration is also possible. Later versions of firmware had the service menu features removed. IMHO, that is a significant loss.

Think very carefully before taking a step into the mess that was FLIR’s attempts to prevent the upgrade in later firmware versions. For me V1.19 was the purest firmware with most potential for reconfiguration.. saying that, Bud has done an excellent job creating the upgrade for the latest firmware releases. You still do not have the ease of access to the configuration or the invaluable service menu facilities though.

As someone at FLIR once told me “we got it right with version 1.19 and the later versions are just housekeeping and countermeasures to an upgrade”. I seem to remember that a USB streaming function appeared in the later firmware but I am uncertain if this works with the older hardware platform that you have.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: swperk on June 15, 2022, 05:32:37 pm
Thanks for that great info! I think I'll be leaving well enough alone.

Stan
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on June 15, 2022, 05:48:19 pm
Bought a used once for roof leak in a hot rod warehouse E4 WIFI 13.3.0 , he left out the charger - I charge with USB at this time .
Would like to find a charger stand & battery holder [ have lots of 18650s ] but everyplace I find the cost is too much ?
     Main question with the last couple of post , reverting to 1.9 , have not modded yet , have downloaded Buds info , but computers & do not seem to get along , so have held off on the mod ? 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Threadegers
Post by: Fraser on June 15, 2022, 08:01:38 pm
Have you considered using one of the many “Universal” Li-Ion chargers that are available ? I own many of these useful chargers and have used them to charge all manner of Li-Ion batteries, including the Ex series battery. They are smart little units that auto detect battery contact polarity so you cannot get the polarity wrong  :-+ The charging management is as good as you will find in most OEM chargers as a modern Li-Ion/Ni-Mh charge management IC is used. Obviously you do get varying qualities of these chargers on the market and the safety aspects of the power supply needs to be considered, just as with buying inexpensive power supplies.

Look for “Universal charger” and you can decide if they meet your needs  :)

How to use the charger……

1. Set the adjustable contact distance to that needed for the battery.

2. Switch on the charger

3. Place the battery in the charging ‘bay’ and allow the spring loaded clamp to secure it in place.

4. Wait for the charger to indicate full charge on the display and remove battery  :-+

2-Power make a decent universal charger. I own a couple of them.

https://2-power.com/retail/universal-battery-chargers/ (https://2-power.com/retail/universal-battery-chargers/)

Datasheet…

https://2-power.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/universal-battery-chargers.pdf (https://2-power.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/universal-battery-chargers.pdf)

I have several Hahnel Unipal Plus Universal Chargers that can charge from a mains power pack or car cigar lighter socket adapter (both supplied). They are great little chargers and I like the positive feel and accurate adjustment of the contact position system that uses helical drive rods and thumb wheels. These have thin blade type contacts for batteries with the narrow enclosed slot type contact design. This is not an issue with the open type contacts of the Ex series battery though.

https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/3680335.pdf (https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/3680335.pdf)


Regarding making a Ex series compatible battery holder to take a 18650 cell…… I think you will need to design your own as I do not recall such a product being available or even a 3D printable design. The battery is simple with only normal cell protection and no gas gauge so you could copy it without drama, but 3D printing is likely the way to do it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on June 16, 2022, 12:41:32 am
What about downgrading 13.3.0 to 19 ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on June 16, 2022, 01:40:06 am
After flie E4 is cracked, what happens if you upgrade the system firmware without restoring the files?

If you need to upgrade firmware, what should you do before upgrading?

After cracking, if the firmware is accidentally upgraded, resulting in system crash, can I restore it with a backup file?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on June 16, 2022, 04:07:29 am
If you upgrade without restoring the stock firmware, there is risk to brick the device. There was a reason for the boot screen warning message.

If upgraded accidentally, you may or may not be able to roll back, it will depend on the new version, not possible to tell.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on June 16, 2022, 04:50:47 am
I wanted to downgrade for the reasons mentioned a little earlier --- 1.9 had all the improvements & was easier to mod ?
I do have the E4 WIFI 13.3.9
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: charlyd on August 17, 2022, 08:14:41 pm
i got a Flir E4. fw 1.21. (hw 1.1L) from what me was told it has the resolution and menu hack.  can this E4 be upgrade or do i brick the camera  with a fw update to 2.3.0. for example?

i don t have the original unhacked files  from a v1.21 Flir E4 can somebody post them here.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Voodoobrew on September 26, 2022, 04:45:28 pm
Just did my new FLIR 63906-0604 E4 with Firmware version: 3.16.0 (out of the box).

mostly trying to follow the instructions here https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4044625/#msg4044625 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4044625/#msg4044625)

I used the files from https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4043233/#msg4043233 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4043233/#msg4043233)

I had only one issue but I got it all working.
The common_dll.dll I could not delete or copy over. It took me the better part of 4 hours to find I could rename it to common_dll.dll.bak then upload the new common_dll.dll
Trying to delete the common_dll.dll file gave me these 2 errors
     File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access).
     Exceeded storage allocation (for current directory or dataset).
The only reference I could find on those errors the guy got called a troll so... Not to helpful to me.
Now know that I need to rename instead of replace I do see thats its been posted before.

Everything else went pretty smooth.

FYI: While I can FTP right in on the Wi-Fi IP using -User: flir   -Password: 3vlig
   There was no access to the folder \FlashFS\ where the config.cfc is
   So you do still need to load Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif

I did get the Timeout waiting for camera response which probably meant I already completed that step so just move to next one. You know its good if you can see the \FlashFS\ folder

While I did just backup everything I could just in case I only went to 3 files, only 2 of which got replaced, the other was just to find the

Thanks everyone for putting this together.
I just figured I would make a post with keywords people might find if they have similar issues.

@Sebastian82 if you has said "22)   Now go to “_\FlashBFS\system” and rename the “common_dll.dll” and uplaod the one you need. I used the hacked “common_dll_3.16.zip” from the forum."
I would have had zero issues. To be fair I never saw the previous instructions that those were based off.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on September 29, 2022, 04:27:33 pm
Hello, where i find last version of hack ? thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on September 30, 2022, 03:32:16 am
I am watching a few threads about this , but am a long way from being able to answer much on the subject .
But seems to me there is at least 2 different ways to go - and the choice on which path to take depends on which version of camera you have & what soft / firmware you have , at least as I understand what I have found .
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on September 30, 2022, 07:28:25 am
actually i have 3.16 firmware with hack. Or is any manual how instal hack to camera ? step by step ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KCT_99 on September 30, 2022, 01:16:48 pm
look here

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3928928/#msg3928928 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3928928/#msg3928928)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Marekx89 on October 02, 2022, 07:41:19 am
look here

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3928928/#msg3928928 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3928928/#msg3928928)

thanks, but i cannot find last version of this hack.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 12, 2022, 04:39:30 am
actually i have 3.16 firmware with hack. Or is any manual how instal hack to camera ? step by step ?
You already have it applied. There is no anything else.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 13, 2022, 07:32:10 pm
Recently purchased a new E4 WIFI. I express my deep gratitude and low bow to all participants who contributed to the possibility of hacking this device.
I did everything according to Bud's instructions, there were absolutely no difficulties.
I had an idea to check the camera spatial resolution after hacking with a real experiment. I found a copper stranded wire in vinyl insulation at home, the wire diameter is exactly 2mm.
I made a grill out of the wire with intervals of 2 mm, connected it to the power supply and applied a current of 6 amperes. Then I opened an online calculator for Flir cameras (https://flir.custhelp.com/app/utils/fl_fovCalc/pn/63903-0403/ret_url/%252Fapp%252Ffl_download_datasheets%252Fid%252F15 (https://flir.custhelp.com/app/utils/fl_fovCalc/pn/63903-0403/ret_url/%252Fapp%252Ffl_download_datasheets%252Fid%252F15)) to calculate IFOV, calculated that in order to recognize a 2 * 2mm object, I need to move the camera to a distance of 775mm, also made several thermograms from a closer distance. Even though the noise generator was turned off, the coils of the test grill showed noise in the form of stray dots. Perhaps my experiment and test grill is not perfect, but I was satisfied. ;)

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 14, 2022, 08:21:41 pm
Who has a package of files to activate the web service menu? Can you please send it to PM?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 14, 2022, 08:47:02 pm
It was removed from the cameras file structure in a way that could not be added and be functional. This was tried long ago and failed. Essential service mode sub routines are missing.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 14, 2022, 09:01:26 pm
Then I ask you to explain to me how the metadata of the camera is being changed now? Model and part number on latest firmware version 3.16.0?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 14, 2022, 09:02:25 pm
@ c00kemon
What you can try to improve quality of pictures you take on the liberated camera is the following
:
after you boot the camera, toggle the cursor mode, e.g. turn the measurement cursor off and then back on. This will reduce  JPG compression (the "quality" will go from 80% to 100% in Flir terms).

There was no way to permanently change compression level, only temporarily until next reboot. The above method was a little hack.

You can compare jpg artefacts on a same object images before and after, you should see noticable improvement.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 14, 2022, 09:05:55 pm
Then I ask you to explain to me how the metadata of the camera is being changed now? Model and part number on latest firmware version 3.16.0?
Likely by changing the respective data in EEPROM. The EEPROM password is in this thread.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 14, 2022, 09:07:18 pm
@Bud
Thanks for this tip, i will try repeat my experiment with this "little hack" :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 14, 2022, 09:13:50 pm
I already found the password. But I don’t understand how to get into the EEPROM, I can’t access it via the web. Can I get detailed instructions?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 14, 2022, 09:30:09 pm
@ c00kemon
What you can try to improve quality of pictures you take on the liberated camera is the following
:
after you boot the camera, toggle the cursor mode, e.g. turn the measurement cursor off and then back on. This will reduce  JPG compression (the "quality" will go from 80% to 100% in Flir terms).

There was no way to permanently change compression level, only temporarily until next reboot. The above method was a little hack.

You can compare jpg artefacts on a same object images before and after, you should see noticable improvement.

No noticeable difference in quality was noticed, perhaps when conducting the experiment for the first time, I accidentally turned off and on the cursor and there was already 100% jpeg quality.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Fraser on November 14, 2022, 09:38:45 pm
The EEPROM contains the camera model details. From memory it is accessed via the Service Menu. Unlocking of the EEPROM requires a password that is known. The information in the EEPROM may then be edited and the EEPROM locked. Direct editing of the EEPROM data using an EEPROM programmer may be possible but there was concern regarding the possibility of a checksum process that could cause issues if the official unlock and lock process was not used.

Fraser
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 14, 2022, 09:46:37 pm
I already understood about EEPROM from your first post. But I see that some people in the aftermarket in my country are changing the metadata on new cameras with latest FW, I just want to know how it's done in detail.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 14, 2022, 11:09:07 pm
No noticeable difference in quality was noticed, perhaps when conducting the experiment for the first time, I accidentally turned off and on the cursor and there was already 100% jpeg quality.
Can you post your center cursor preset?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 14, 2022, 11:12:01 pm
I already understood about EEPROM from your first post. But I see that some people in the aftermarket in my country are changing the metadata on new cameras with latest FW, I just want to know how it's done in detail.
We do not know, apparently it was someone's work outside of this thread.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 26, 2022, 12:39:07 pm
The central crosshair preset, the distance 775mm.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 26, 2022, 02:33:20 pm
I mean the preset file itself.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 26, 2022, 06:09:11 pm
Now I understand what it's about.  I gave you a link to a backup of my camera, did you watch it?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on November 27, 2022, 03:27:33 am
I used the link but frankly I am not sure when I can dig into it, maybe around Christmas when I have time. My knowledge has faded out.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: c00kemon on November 27, 2022, 05:28:21 am
I mean, the central crosshair preset file can be taken from there.  And about another question, for which I gave you access to the backup, I understand perfectly, but I believe that maybe you will find something interesting in your research.😊
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Odd on December 03, 2022, 08:39:27 pm
Ouch ..this is a long thread with information all over.
I wish to improve E4 2.0L   with software 3.16.0

So far, I think I am supposed to use:
common_dll_3.16.zip
Basic_3.12.0.zip
Advanced_3.12.0.zip

The "Basic readme" starts with "DO  NOT USE THIS PACKAGE FOR FIRMWARE OTHER THAN 3.12.0 OR CAMERAS OTHER THAN E4 2.0L"
so ..a bit contradicting.

Anyone knows if the very old python 2.7 is actually required? 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 03, 2022, 09:41:48 pm
You can use 3.16 dll with 3.12 packages.
You need python 2.7 if i remember correctly.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Odd on December 03, 2022, 10:57:47 pm
I just upgraded to the basic package.. and MSX option is just grayed out. I do not see any data from the daylight camera.
If I assign the custom button to toggle cameras, both work.
If I assign the custom key to toggle between Thermal and Thermal MSX .. I see only thermal anyway.

Another strange thing is that the "Measurement of center spot" does not work anymore, the icon lets me change it, but there is no measurement/temperature like before.
The second strange thing is that the JPEG I took before the upgrade, is stored as 320x280 ...same as the jpeg after the upgrade...   Maybe the camera was upgraded before? - I certainly did not see any of the new menus or LUC's.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 04, 2022, 06:05:06 am
This is the classic symptoms of the config file not loading, likely because the procedure was performed incorrectly. The two common mistakes are using the camera serial number instead of SUID, and having two config files-the old one and new one. The old config must be deleted from the camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Odd on December 04, 2022, 08:40:40 am
of course, you are right :)
I inserted SUID instead of serial number into the conf.cfg file.
Thank you.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 04, 2022, 03:36:42 pm
That was a variation of the first mistake  :D . Usually users put the serial number instead of SUID into the python config encryption step.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on January 12, 2023, 05:56:51 am
There is a problem. The equipment is FLIR E4 2.0L 3.16. The three points for temperature measurement after HACK are SP1、SP2、SP3 instead of Hot、 Cold , What is the problem?

Resolution and palette HACK are completed normally
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: comtec on January 14, 2023, 03:49:49 pm
Hi all

I have a standard E4 1.2L running software 2.11

Is it best to update to latest FW or apply hack as is ?

Cheers
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 14, 2023, 03:56:50 pm
Modification packages are only available up to v3.16.

Edit: you should Not perform updates after installing the mod. Updates replace critical files and you may end up with a brick. If you want to update a modded unit you should first roll back the mod.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: poussi_pousse on January 15, 2023, 12:56:27 pm
Hi all,

I received yesterday a brand new E4 (2.0L 3.16.0) from Flir and updated it right away !

The quality is far better but the MSX feature is very impressive even with the original 80x60. The main difference is that you can use the thermal mode only and see (almost) everything.

I use Windows 7 (32bit) on bootcamp (MBP 2012) and it works perfectly. The telnet program didn't ask me username or password. But Filezilla only works with anonymous / NcFTP@. Python didn't work with C: files, I used an external drive E: (permission problem).

I only installed "Basic" package, I don't think the step 16 is very useful, except for the new color paterns.

Anyway, I just wanted to thank Bud and all the others for making this upgrade.  :clap:

 
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: comtec on January 15, 2023, 01:30:57 pm
I have been doing some reading on this thread.

Updated camera to 3.16

Have managed to connect to camera and backup all the files.

Before i proceed any further, can someone confirm the basic pack is compatible with hardware 1.2L (mentions 2.0 only)

The modified conf file looks quite a bit different from the one in the camera..

Thanks
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: comtec on January 18, 2023, 05:12:02 pm
I have update my E4 with basic and advanced pack.
All functions work ok, but added features have no icon, just blank, but can be selected.
Is there a way to get these working ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 18, 2023, 06:07:46 pm
Hi all,

I received yesterday a brand new E4 (2.0L 3.16.0) from Flir and updated it right away !

The quality is far better but the MSX feature is very impressive even with the original 80x60. The main difference is that you can use the thermal mode only and see (almost) everything.
Does not look updated to me based on the pics you posted. There should be no logo in the bottom left corner.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: KD0CAC John on January 18, 2023, 11:25:21 pm
What Flir does not get any credit --- when we hack the camera ;) ;)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 19, 2023, 01:10:19 am
I have update my E4 with basic and advanced pack.
All functions work ok, but added features have no icon, just blank, but can be selected.
Is there a way to get these working ?

Check that you replaced facet.rcc file in /FlashBFS/System/u.id folder. New icons are in that file. You can check the timestamp or the file size should be ~900KB.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Orv on January 23, 2023, 03:58:55 am
Hello all! This is my first post on the forum. I just want to say thanks for all involved with this project. Everything worked like a charm.

I have one question, I somehow skipped over the 3.12 liberation package. I hacked the 3.16 firmware with the original Basic 3.9 package. Would there be any reason for me to restore/recover my device back to the original and install the 3.12 liberation package instead?

*****EDIT***** I went ahead and did it. No noticeable changes, but at least I'm with the program. Thanks again Bud and everyone!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: poussi_pousse on January 23, 2023, 04:57:42 pm
Does not look updated to me based on the pics you posted. There should be no logo in the bottom left corner.

Your right, I made the pictures before the last steps. This is what you get : a nice before and after :  :)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: someguy2023 on January 27, 2023, 12:54:03 pm
Hello everyone!

First off want to thank all the people involved in putting this whole process together. Really cool for it to be out here for everyone to enjoy.

Now onto why I'm here. Attempted to hack my Flir E5 Wifi v3.16 (as some others have done sucessfully). Couldnt get the RNDIS mode to work so decided to take the wifi route to do the hack.

Everything went super smooth, until it came time to do the cold start and I got stuck on the Logo screen for startup. Realized my mistake almost instantly... used the 3.12 dll instead of the 3.16 dll that was on a different post.  |O

Currently looking like a bricked camera unless anyone has any ideas?

I've attempted getting back into the camera via the recovery method. Computer doesn't recognize that the camera is even plugged in via the USB port. Can't seem to get flirinstaller to pick it up either.

If the answer is that this thing is bricked I'm not too worried (bought used pretty cheap so my investment is pretty low) so don't be afraid to just break the bad news haha.

Thanks ahead for any time spent helping me out.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 27, 2023, 07:39:58 pm
These puppies are hard to kill. You likely doing something incorrectly. Do you have Flir device drivers installed? To eliminate some variables, get a machine or virtual machine with WinXP, intstall Flir device drivers and Flir Tools. That should give you USB access. Then you can run the recovery procedure.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: saqibshafiqss on January 29, 2023, 10:52:55 am
Did the basic & advanced hack, resolutions and menu on my flir E6 2.0 Wi-Fi 3.9.0 using windows 11 on a newer laptop and works perfectly fine, took a whole day as im a complete beginner and there was some issues but figured it out eventually. Thanks to everyone responsible and the rest of this community for this hack.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Tolek on January 30, 2023, 09:04:33 pm
There is a problem. The equipment is FLIR E4 2.0L 3.16. The three points for temperature measurement after HACK are SP1、SP2、SP3 instead of Hot、 Cold , What is the problem?

Resolution and palette HACK are completed normally
I have the same issue... Do you have solution?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: someguy2023 on January 31, 2023, 02:29:08 pm
Got it all fixed up. Plugged it into a WinXP laptop after getting all the software installed and got back into it. Thanks Everyone!
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 31, 2023, 02:44:32 pm
There is a problem. The equipment is FLIR E4 2.0L 3.16. The three points for temperature measurement after HACK are SP1、SP2、SP3 instead of Hot、 Cold , What is the problem?

Resolution and palette HACK are completed normally
I have the same issue... Do you have solution?
Just replace the 3 point preset with the original one from your backup. ( You backed up your camera before the change, didn't you?)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Tolek on January 31, 2023, 06:04:43 pm
There is a problem. The equipment is FLIR E4 2.0L 3.16. The three points for temperature measurement after HACK are SP1、SP2、SP3 instead of Hot、 Cold , What is the problem?

Resolution and palette HACK are completed normally
I have the same issue... Do you have solution?
Just replace the 3 point preset with the original one from your backup. ( You backed up your camera before the change, didn't you?)

Off course I did :)
original.jpg (just 4 presets E4 with WiFi)
then basic hack:
after basic.jpg
and then Advanced ...

only basic and advanced have got 3 point preset

so should I back to basic one ? and check?

but ... all 3 have got the same CRC32 ...

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on January 31, 2023, 09:12:32 pm
I do not understand then which original 3 points preset you were referring to, if there was no any 3 points presets in a stock camera.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: facesnorth on February 01, 2023, 02:04:35 am
Hi guys, I successfully followed these instructions back in 2015 to upgrade both my resolution and menu on my E4 1.2L with 2.3.0 software.  I rarely ever pull this camera out - it mostly sits in my closet.  I pulled it out today to check the performance of my new vinyl windows, and the camera is working great - but I cannot transfer the photos to my PC.

Using the original micro USB cable that came with it, I've tried on both a Windows 11 laptop and also a Windows 10 desktop PC.  I've also tried using another cable.

I've followed the steps here: https://www.flir.com/support-center/Instruments/my-flir-e4-e5-e6-or-e8-cannot-connect-to-my-pc.-how-do-i-solve-this/ (https://www.flir.com/support-center/Instruments/my-flir-e4-e5-e6-or-e8-cannot-connect-to-my-pc.-how-do-i-solve-this/)

but it does not show up in my Device Manager at all, anywhere.  I hear the beep-beep when I connect the USB, and it charges, but there is no storage folder to access from File Explorer.  And there is nothing to click on in device manager to update the driver to the signed driver they provided in that link.  I did try just force installing the device driver but it didn't do anything.

I tried all these steps except for factory resetting the E4 - https://www.flir.com/support-center/Instruments/flir-tools-will-not-detect-my-camera-i-cannot-transfer-images/ (https://www.flir.com/support-center/Instruments/flir-tools-will-not-detect-my-camera-i-cannot-transfer-images/)

I also tried https://flir.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/903 (https://flir.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/903) and disabled USB selective suspension.

I also tried installing these device drivers https://flir.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/47/ (https://flir.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/47/)

I've tried contacting Flir support but they have been fairly useless.

I wasn't sure if factory resetting risked messing something up with the upgrade process I performed 8 years ago on it.  I'm very fuzzy on the details of how I went about doing that, so I don't want to risk breaking it now.

I don't have access to a Windows 7 PC or I would have tried that as well.  Windows 10 came out in 2015, a full 5 months before I even purchased this camera, surely they provided a way to transfer files over the USB on a Windows 10 machine?

I figured you guys probably know as much as anyone at Flir about this and are probably familiar with what I might need to do.  So I appreciate any suggestions helping me get my files onto my PC.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 01, 2023, 04:37:41 am
Same advice as a few posts back - Get a WinXP machine (a Virtual Machine should work as well), install Flir Tools and Flir Drivers. This will be the starting point to see if you have problems or not.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: marcheloka on February 06, 2023, 11:35:36 am
Big thanks to everyone involved in this.  :D
Especially BUD!  :)
I just did the basic resolution hack on my recently bought FLIR E4 noWIFI 2.0L software 3.16.0

I used Sebastian82's method explained before but the alternative way that he mentions in the a), b), c) part. The normal way did not seem to work in my case, the same as the Bud's way explained in 3.12.0 readme. They all gave me grayed out menu buttons as well as no center point for measurement and resolution not improved. On the way i also messed uploading the wrong dll file - 3.12 did not work properly and i had to upload 3.16 to get it working. but finally my resolution is upgraded and noise cancelled so it looks like its fine. Maybe some other time i will try to make other features of basic hack or even advanced or christmas hack, have not decided yet.

Oh i used my normal laptop with recent windows, i think its win10 64 bit. And also i skipped the telnet part because this is not in the Sebastian instructions. And even though it worked. Also had some weird problems with FTP because using password 3vlig did not work, filezilla said it was the wrong password. And using this anonymous login credentials resulted in not seeing some files, including \FlashIFS\FLIRVers.rsc. Somehow it just clicked after few trys but i do not know what i did differently.

Link to Sebastian82's tutorial i used (second way a, b, c...): https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4044625/#msg4044625 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg4044625/#msg4044625)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 06, 2023, 06:11:44 pm
.
 Also had some weird problems with FTP because using password 3vlig did not work, filezilla said it was the wrong password.

I am pretty sure I mentioned couple times that you just need to repeat login a second time. The firsf time there seem to be an extra character in the ftp program buffer that causes the camera to fail the login. Second time it works.
Or simply press ENTER the first time to flash the buffer, then log in.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: serochance on March 01, 2023, 07:44:23 am
Does anyone have the FLIR Device Drivers (version: 1.9.1.0) files?

The links to the FLIR site for the driver downloads are now broken. FLIR Tools was also discontinued. This makes following most of the liberation guides impossible.

Thanks to everyone for all the hard work.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on March 04, 2023, 07:00:39 am
    Please help me.
    My FLIR E4 can't connect to the computer through USB, nor can it be charged. After disassembly, it was found that the USN socket was connected to a QFN16 chip. After looking for a friend's E4, it was found that the chip code was different, and the model of the chip could not be found by using two codes. Please help me to see what the complete model is, or the replacement model.
   The identification of two FLIR E4 chips are: 0908 8GGA and 0952 456G
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: exe on March 04, 2023, 11:52:44 am
Please help me to see what the complete model is, or the replacement model.
   The identification of two FLIR E4 chips are: 0908 8GGA and 0952 456G

I know it's long shot but.... Can it be by any chance a ESD protection? I'd expect USB to be handled by another IC. May be it's sort of, uhm, usb driver IC? Flir E4 is quite an old device, so may be its MCU cannot interface usb directly. It's also, imo, unlikely to be, say, just usb-to-serial controller.

I can't recognise the logo of manufacturer, that would help a lot.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: bdeianov on March 07, 2023, 08:13:24 am
Does anyone have the FLIR Device Drivers (version: 1.9.1.0) files?

The links to the FLIR site for the driver downloads are now broken. FLIR Tools was also discontinued. This makes following most of the liberation guides impossible.

Thanks to everyone for all the hard work.

The versions I used with a WinXP VM still appear to be available.

FLIR Tools 4.1 (https://support.flir.com/SwDownload/app/RssSWDownload.aspx?ID=224p)
FLIR Device Drivers x86 (1.15.5.0) (32-Bit) (https://flir.custhelp.com/app/account/fl_download_software)

For the drivers, create an account, then navigate to Utilities and Tools / FLIR Device Drivers / Flip Device Drivers x86.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: defplayr on March 09, 2023, 03:37:41 am
>tcq1000

What look like 'same series' salvaged chips available in Russia. Any good?

https://spb.partsdirect.ru/goods/906209 (https://spb.partsdirect.ru/goods/906209)

Google Translate: https://spb-partsdirect-ru.translate.goog/goods/906209?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://spb-partsdirect-ru.translate.goog/goods/906209?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: darix362 on March 31, 2023, 09:42:49 am
Hi,

i noticed a strange behaviour on my Flir E5 Ext Wifi, v.3.16, which is running the christmas pack for about 1.5 years without problems.

If i take a thermal picture and copy it to my computer, there is no flir logo in the lower left corner. But after opening it in the original flir tools software, version 5.13.18031.2002, an doing some modifications to the thermal picture and saving it, the flir logo appears and a second "°C" appears in the upper middle.

Does someone noticed the same behaviour or happen to know what caused this?
Maybe could it be caused in using the two custom made user presets? Because in this measurement options the "°C" is separated from the temperature field and not included.

Best regards.

Edit:
Today i checked my old Photos with the 100% Stock firmware with resolution 160x120 and noticed, that this bug is there too. So it have to be an issue with the flir-tools v5.13 i am using. Sorry for confusing.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on May 04, 2023, 09:44:09 am
There was a problem upgrading my FLIR E5 system. Which directory is the calibration file located in?
      After using the Tools update prompt to unplug the USB and start the update, I unplugged the USB but the device did not update. I forcefully shut down and then turned it on again, but found that it could not be turned on and remained stuck in the FLIR logo. Fortunately, I found a motherboard from the second-hand market, and after replacing the motherboard, it can boot up and display images, but there are many drawbacks. Before the update, I backed up the system. Do you know where the device's calibration files are stored? I want to try replacing the calibration file to solve the problem of bad points.
     Attempted to replace these 3 files without xi
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Odd on May 04, 2023, 03:43:20 pm
Is it possible to change the EXIF Camera model data from FLIR F4 WiFi to ... FLIR F8 WiFi ?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: tcq1000 on May 06, 2023, 03:21:45 am
There was a problem upgrading my FLIR E5 system. Which directory is the calibration file located in?
      After using the Tools update prompt to unplug the USB and start the update, I unplugged the USB but the device did not update. I forcefully shut down and then turned it on again, but found that it could not be turned on and remained stuck in the FLIR logo. Fortunately, I found a motherboard from the second-hand market, and after replacing the motherboard, it can boot up and display images, but there are many drawbacks. Before the update, I backed up the system. Do you know where the device's calibration files are stored? I want to try replacing the calibration file to solve the problem of bad points.
     Attempted to replace these 3 files without xi

Through these days of research, we have successfully solved the problem and restored this brick changing machine to normal.

I managed the process of re brushing the system, calibration, etc., and now the bad points have been removed
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: aproape on July 27, 2023, 11:42:10 pm
Good morning everyone!

Brand new user here and registered specifically to send my thanks and notes for this hack.

First of all, thanks to Bud in particular for making this possible (and all others who have contributed a few bits and pieces) and.. it's fantastic that this is still going on after.. 10+ years, eh? (-:

I've purchased a SH E5-XT (no Wifi) which arrived with 2.0L and 3.12 firmware.

I've read most of the posts (probably ~40 pages) to figure out what needs to be done.. and the following was applied:

- upgraded to v3.16 (some new menu options were enabled: sport / temperature)
- applied the resolution hack only (4 lines in .cfc and the v3.16 .dll) - all good - new thermal resolution showed up
- applied the Basic pkg
- applied the Advanced pkg

====

The E5 is liberated - it has all the goodies that is supposed to have - cheers!


*Update* - more attachments added to show other modes as well.

FLIR logo also has vanished from the bottom left (not a biggie).

Let me know if there is something that can be done about the limited area measurement.


Cheers,
aproape

P.S. I'll add the xmas pack as well / other changes - just very pleased with the results so far and.. again.. big thanks to Bud/Fraser/all others who made this possible. Camera will be used primarily for electrical work around my cave.

Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: atlgator on August 26, 2023, 05:26:13 am
Hi all,

I bought an E4 Wifi, model E4 2.0L, firmware 3.16.0 and successfully hacked it using the steps Sebastion (and Bud et al) laid out with the files attached to his post. Given it's the wifi model I was able to simplify the process and not use the FLIR Tools or FLIR Drivers. I connected the device to my home wifi network and used WinSCP to connect using FTP. I used a handy free iPhone app called Fing to scan my home network and give me the IP address of the FLIR. Backed up all the files on the device first. As Sebastian mentioned, a number of them wouldn't transfer. Followed Sebastian's steps for decrypting, modifying, and re-encrypting the conf.cfc. Renamed the common DLL on the device so I could copy over the new one. Renamed the old conf.cfc on the device so I could copy over the new one. Restarted the device and good to go. I was able to do it all on my Windows 11 desktop. Just had to download and install Python 2.7 as a prerequisite.

Thanks all!

EDIT: This morning I tried to add the Santa mods and it bricked the device. Had to install the FLIR Tools and Drivers after all to get into recovery. I will say that the FLIRInstallerNet didn't work right out of the gate, but as I was sitting there it asked if I wanted to update my FLIR Tools version from 4.x to 5.x. Went through the update install and it had me reboot my computer. Once I got back in it worked and I was able to run the RNDIS FIF. Back in business after reverting the files.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on September 07, 2023, 04:39:08 am
You should Not leave the old .cfc config file on the device. Make a backup of it and delete it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: nikitasius on October 22, 2023, 07:16:04 pm
Hi folks, i promise to read all that thread and not just search'n'google the stuff as i did before.
But the question which is in my head is (one big & multiline question):
• to successfully hack we need to switch flir to rndis mode.
• mk2 versions (solid D-pad) doesn't have service menu.

Could they be hacked?

I wanna buy Exx or ExxBX, there are some good offers for mk2 models.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on October 27, 2023, 03:35:20 pm
This thread is for E4. Anything else is one's guess.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Swappart on November 10, 2023, 04:46:25 am
Got my E4 today, Software version 3.16. Works perfectly, including WiFi.
I did this on Windows 11, 64 bit.
FLIR Tools 6.4.18039.1003.
Latest drivers from FLIR. //Couldn't get ThermaCAM Connect 3 to work. Maybe driver issue?

I used ChatGPT to port the cfccfg_v2 from Python 2.7 to Python 3.
I did a binary comparison of the output files from the original cfccfg_v2 with Python 2.7, and my Python 3 version (cfccfg_v3).
Output files are identical, and it's used exactly the same way. It's attached below.

Thanks Bud, Sebastian82, and everyone else who contributed.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Theremin on December 12, 2023, 10:53:54 am
Hi all and thank you for this invaluable resource. Got a new E4 Wifi, did the resolution hack and the camera booted up without problem. Took some test photos and connected it to a computer. While browsing the photos it froze and the drive connection dropped. The camera menu was unresponsive so I had to shut it down.

Now it's completely unresponsive, can't get into recovery mode either. I've tried with different computers but it's not recognized at all in the USB bus. Any ideas? It should be able to start enough to get into recovery, right? So maybe I just had very bad luck and it's a faulty unit that happened to die immediately after. Is there anything else I could try to revive it?

Edit: It's a 2.0L model with 3.16 software.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 13, 2023, 11:13:59 pm
What do youmean completely unresposive? Does the startup screen shows up when you press the power button and it gets stuck there? Does the camera boot but you cant connect to usb? Or it does not turn on at all?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Theremin on December 14, 2023, 11:19:40 am
What do youmean completely unresposive? Does the startup screen shows up when you press the power button and it gets stuck there? Does the camera boot but you cant connect to usb? Or it does not turn on at all?

It doesn't turn on at all. Stays completely black and nothing is showing under device manager in Windows or system information in macOS. To me it looks like it just died, perhaps completely unrelated to the resolution hack since it was so abrupt after normal bootup. But I thought I'd ask before sending it for repair.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 14, 2023, 12:24:20 pm
It was a new camera, did you charge the battery before using?
Things you can try:
Unplug the battery for 1 min, plug it again. Connect the wall charger to the camera. Push Left and Right keys together. Do you see the screen showing battery charging? What is charge level? Let the battery charge. If charge level is low, leave the camera charging for a few hours. You can monitor charge level on the screen.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Theremin on December 14, 2023, 05:05:13 pm
It was a new camera, did you charge the battery before using?
Things you can try:
Unplug the battery for 1 min, plug it again. Connect the wall charger to the camera. Push Left and Right keys together. Do you see the screen showing battery charging? What is charge level? Let the battery charge. If charge level is low, leave the camera charging for a few hours. You can monitor charge level on the screen.

I charged it for a few hours before turning it on the first time and saw the battery icon then. Nothing showing now after doing what you said and pressing the buttons. Maybe the battery just died. Although I remember reading somewhere that it should get enough power from USB to start the recovery, but I'm not sure, could have been for some other model.

The calibration date on the included information card says June 2019, so it likely has been sitting in some warehouse for fours years in who knows what environmental conditions. Perhaps time to RMA it.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on December 14, 2023, 05:15:17 pm
I bet the internal battery is dead
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on December 14, 2023, 07:01:26 pm
If the camera even not charging and not enumerating in USB while powered off that is certainly a hardware failure....
And you also tried to connect it to USB with the battery removed, correct?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Theremin on December 18, 2023, 08:57:04 am
If the camera even not charging and not enumerating in USB while powered off that is certainly a hardware failure....
And you also tried to connect it to USB with the battery removed, correct?

I tried with the battery removed, no change. I'll send it for repair.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Theremin on December 21, 2023, 09:50:03 am
If the camera even not charging and not enumerating in USB while powered off that is certainly a hardware failure....
And you also tried to connect it to USB with the battery removed, correct?

I tried with the battery removed, no change. I'll send it for repair.

Turns out the camera was shipped from Flir too long ago and doesn't even have warranty anymore, so I'll get a full refund. The dealer offered to sell E5-XT for the same price. I read from the previous page that someone had successfully liberated that model as well, but would you say it's still wiser to get the E4 model just to be on the safe side? No idea with what firmware version either one comes with at this point. And liberating the E5-XT could mean losing the extended temperature range anyway from what I read.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on December 21, 2023, 11:17:11 am
Taking the E5 would be totally fine and same process
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: smaultre on January 21, 2024, 12:40:43 am
Hello. I need a full dump of Flash  IC TC58BVG1S3HTA00
Please!!!
Mine goes bad, and device won't boot.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Mikiej007 on February 11, 2024, 04:10:36 pm
I'm looking to liberate my (non-WiFi) E4 after it was gifted to me as part of a redundancy and company shut down.
I believe that it has never been upgraded and is still on very old firmware.

Model  E4 1.0
Part Number  63901-0101
Software  1.19.8

Looking though the thread, it is recommended to leave 1.19 as is, but I would really like to unlock the higher resolution and any menu/functionality improvements.

What would be the best way to go forward. Can I just use Buds procedure, or should I do an intermediate update first?
Thanks, in advance.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Bud on February 11, 2024, 04:33:27 pm
For Bud's procedure you should check the WiFi thread for compatible firmware version numbers.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: Mikiej007 on February 11, 2024, 06:42:42 pm
Yeah I did a search but 1.19 doesn't really get mentioned much, hence my question about the possible need to update to a different standard firmware and then do the hack?
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: DaveWB on February 11, 2024, 06:45:44 pm
Just upgrade to 3.16.0 and go from there, all the hardware versions can be upgraded.
Title: Re: FLIR E4 Wifi Resolution and Menu Hack Thread
Post by: SWAGGYD on March 12, 2024, 03:19:11 pm
Hi
I juts upgrade my E4 3.16, every think is ok but I don't know how to turn off RNDS. Can someone help me?