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Flir Prism SP
somlai gabor:
Dear Friends,
I'm working on a Flir Prism SP imager. . This camera was working fine and the next time it didn't turn on. The camera gets power, but the cooler won't make the usual noise. I changed all the capacitors on the main board hoewer they tested fine. I'm suspecting the cooler but I would like to make sure that the two DC to DC converters are working, so I unsoldered them but I don't know the input and output legs dedications. I believe if I see voltages they probably working fine This is where I need help to tell me the 12 Volt input legs locations . Thanks
Fraser:
Here you go..... datasheets attached
Original CDI data sheet with testing protocol is available here:
https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/download_datasheet.php?id=11587&part-number=1605%2F12T12
Fraser
Fraser:
Can you describe the change in the coolers sound as that may be something I can help with. I have worked on quite a few cooled cameras and know when they sound 'sick'. Failure modes are usually loss of gas (runs at maximum speed for ever!) or mechanical failure (sounds like something is loose inside making lots of noise and vibration). Coolers are often on their own self contained control circuit and can often run when a fault exists on the cameras microprocessor system. They will cool and drop into the slower maintain' state without intervention from, or need for, the main processor board. A camera that boots properly and runs in all respects, except the cooler sound is wrong, may have a fault in the motor driver for the cooler as it is two speed. A camera that does not boot, yet the cooler runs, is normally suffering from a fault not associated with the cooler. You are right to check power rails as a failed power rail could impact the cooler motor controller.
Fraser
somlai gabor:
Hi Fraser,
The camera was working fine just before I wanted to sell it, and here is a link for the video when it was running fine. It cooled down in under 5.00 minutes and the FSI screen always came up and it was ready to go."https://youtu.be/ZsiRjsYq1Wg" The next time I powered it on, there was a fan noise only but not the regular pump noise, and it was never booted to the FSI screen. Thanks for the CDI testing protocol, I was looking it for it all over with no luck. I have more pictures from this project but the file are too big to post. I could post one or two at one time, maybe. The English is my second language so sorry about the grammar.
Fraser:
A 5 minute cooling down period is excellent :-+ That does not sound like a cooler that was nearing ‘end of life’.
The symptoms do suggest a power related issue. It could be a power rail control problem or shorted power rail causing an over current event. The power supplies may all be present but just not being allowed to reach the systems within the camera. As well as the actual DC-DC modules you will need to check for expected voltages on various parts of the camera. The cooler is clearly not running so power is not being provided to its motor driver. The microprocessor board needs to be checked for its power rails and you need to look for MOSFET power rail control points and check those. In this age of camera it is not unusual for them to suffer power rail related capacitor failures.Tantalum capacitors are especially troublesome and can go virtually short circuit or burn up !
Best of Luck with the repair. I do not have an FSI Prism in my collection so if it cannot be repaired and you wish to sell it, let me know :)
Fraser
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