Infiray and their P2 Pro - discussion

[Fraser]

It comes to something when you see the P2 and think it’s compact Type C USB connector is too large for its diminutive proportions 

[Fraser]

Hmmm, I wonder if anyone on the forum has a spare SEEK Thermal hard case to sell ? I am thinking that I could modify the foam insert to take the Infiray P2. Finding a hard case small enough for the P2 could prove challenging. Maybe a hard case designed to hold memory sticks would be an option ?

Fraser

[mikeselectricstuff]

I would describe that as “Dinky” 

What is the approximate focus distance for the add on “Macro” lens please Mike ? Hopefully it is 100mm or less.

Fraser

Sharpest at about 25mm, at which point the FOV is about 35mm

[Fraser]

Interesting ! That is a lot closer than I was expecting. I suspect Infiray wanted to select a close-up lens focus distance that clearly shows modern 0201 and 01005 SMD components.

Many thanks for this useful information 

Fraser

[mikeselectricstuff]

Hmmm, I wonder if anyone on the forum has a spare SEEK Thermal hard case to sell ? I am thinking that I could modify the foam insert to take the Infiray P2. Finding a hard case small enough for the P2 could prove challenging. Maybe a hard case designed to hold memory sticks would be an option ?

Fraser

Just had a look on ebay - memory card cases are a bit bit, closest I could immediately find was this hearing aid case, which is a similar outline to the Seek case but a bit thinner - still rather big though.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184538248278

[Fraser]

I would never have thought of a hearing aid case ! Good spot.

Yes the memory card cases are all a little too large for my taste. I will keep looking for a neat storage solution as I would hate to mislay the P2 or it’s macro lens

Fraser

[mikeselectricstuff]

Bear in mind you may want space for the extension cable.
I've not found any USBC extenders shorter than the 0.5m one they supply, and they tend to be a bit thick as they're mostly sold for fast charging

[Fraser]

I have come to the same conclusion regarding the case. I may go for the smallest pelican case clone that I can find or one of the hard cases sold for the FLIR One Gen 3

Fraser

[Fraser]

I have found a small memory card case that might be suitable for the P2 but not sure if there will be room for the cable. I would need to modify the padded insert to take the camera.

I might get one as it looks quite neat.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144383590993?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_KDWNbNDR-K&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=BgpdXaaLSkK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Another supplier who has different models for various memory cards. I would likely make my own insert from sealed cell high density foam.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265787601290?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4ZlsmZuPTOS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=BgpdXaaLSkK&var=565572965281&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Fraser

[tomasis]

(I had re-post as I did it in wrong thread)

Thanks Fraser, good job with the pictures. It gives me some idea what to design. Looks like pistol grip is worth to buy instead of print.

I like the idea of modular case you attach either on tripod or microscope stand. Sort of Gopro case but with tripod mount female-screw.

The USB connection that sticks outs is fragile, so the case helps, also it would support ZnSe lens attachment.

[Gareth79]

Is the P2 and P2 Pro designed for continuous use? I know similar modules are used in CCTV etc. but is the heatsinking etc. sufficient on USB devices for very long term use? Perhaps let's assume not in direct sunlight etc

[mikeselectricstuff]

Is the P2 and P2 Pro designed for continuous use? I know similar modules are used in CCTV etc. but is the heatsinking etc. sufficient on USB devices for very long term use? Perhaps let's assume not in direct sunlight etc

The P2 Pro does not get noticeably warm

[Qw3rtzuiop]

Im using the p2 since a few months and ive designed a mount for a macro lens too:
https://www.printables.com/model/281246-infisenseinfiray-p2-thermal-camera-macro-lens-hold

I can recommend buying an USB-C extension cable to reach in between stacks of pcbs or other hard to reach places.

[mikeselectricstuff]

I have found a small memory card case that might be suitable for the P2 but not sure if there will be room for the cable. I would need to modify the padded insert to take the camera.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265787601290?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4ZlsmZuPTOS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=BgpdXaaLSkK&var=565572965281&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Quick hack of the foam inserts from the original Infray boxes - everything fits.  Even the right colour!

[Fraser]

Brilliant ! Thanks Mike. I will order one for my P2 Pro 

My P2 Pro will be delivered to me on Tuesday  Testing and a written review will follow.

Mike, can you see how the P2 metal case is held together ? Disassembly might take some thought if no screws are used. I no longer own a Faxitron MX-20 so cannot X-Ray my unit.

Fraser

[mikeselectricstuff]

Mike, can you see how the P2 metal case is held together ? Disassembly might take some thought if no screws are used. I no longer own a Faxitron MX-20 so cannot X-Ray my unit.

Hard to see much on x-ray but no sign of screws.
A quick attack with a scalpel blade on the seam shows that it's glued.
Feels like there's a flex joining the two halves & at least one side is screwed into the casing.
I will take it further apart later, but don't want to risk killing it until I've done a review video!

[Fraser]

Thanks Mike 

Looks like a standard Tiny-1b hiding in there 

Fraser

[mikeselectricstuff]

Something really odd happens in "High quality" image mode ( vs. wide-range) with a hot target ( soldering iron) .
Tried putting on YT but it turned it into a  "short" that wouldn't play, so attached as a zipped MP4

[Fraser]

Sadly I only have my iPad at the moment so cannot play the ZIP file.

This sounds interesting though 

[gabiz_ro]

Looks like a reflection inside lens or sensor-lens.

[Fraser]

Mike,

My iPad managed to extract and play the file 

That mosaic patterning on the soldering iron barrel is unusual. I will look into that

Fraser

[Bill W]

Looks to be overloading the sensor data range.  It does not have the necessary dynamic range for all possible pixel gains and offsets.

At least the overloads do not turn black like a Boson (or at least the early ones)

Bill

[mikeselectricstuff]

Thanks Mike 

Looks like a standard Tiny-1b hiding in there 

Fraser

Yes, with the flex curling round to a second PCB, which links to the USB connector via a second flex cable

[thermalengineer]

Fraser, thanks for your informative introduction to InfiRay and their products. 

As an engineer, my job is to do PCB thermal analysis for electronics design and repair, thermal imaging technology has helped me a lot  to promote the efficiency of my work. Apart from the applications in work, thermal imager is a good partner in my daily life as well， mainly for home inspection and automotive repair.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Hello Mike, could you show more photos and videos of P2 Pro

Will be doing this when I get time