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Products => Thermal Imaging => Topic started by: vekovoh on February 02, 2019, 02:14:08 pm

Title: Is it still possible to buy Thermal expert Q1 around $500?
Post by: vekovoh on February 02, 2019, 02:14:08 pm
I've heard the price was low at the beginning, but they raised it to about $1000, is that true?
I cannot even find the price or distributer on their website.
Title: Re: Is it still possible to buy Thermal expert Q1 around $500?
Post by: TooQik on February 02, 2019, 10:20:36 pm
Prices I received direct from i3system on 14th January this year were as follows:
All prices are in USD.
Title: Re: Is it still possible to buy Thermal expert Q1 around $500?
Post by: Vipitis on February 03, 2019, 12:44:10 am
Are you sure those prices are with taxes? Importanting from somewhere else might add even more import tax.

For their EU distributor it's 499€ for the M1 and 799€ for the Q1 with slightly higher prices on 30hz version. But they had a -20% offer before Christmas on eBay last year which might return.
Title: Re: Is it still possible to buy Thermal expert Q1 around $500?
Post by: TooQik on February 03, 2019, 02:41:11 am
The pricing I've been given from i3system does not include any taxes, custom's fees or duties as this would vary country to country.

For example,  in Australia it would cost a further 10% in GST on top of both the goods and shipment price, plus custom's fees of approximately $100. So the TE-Q1 @ $499 USD with an accessories kit and shipping comes in around $1000 AUD after exchange rates, GST and custom's fees are taken into account.

I've noticed on this forum of people referring to a TE-Q1 30Hz version, but when I asked i3system they stated they don't do a 30Hz version of the Q1. Does anyone here actually have a 30Hz version of the Q1? If so, are you able to share where you purchased it, as this is something I've potentially interested in buying.
Title: Re: Is it still possible to buy Thermal expert Q1 around $500?
Post by: Vipitis on February 03, 2019, 12:13:50 pm
As far as I know, there is no 30hz Q1. But there is a 30hz V1 and a 30hz M1. The M1 bringen exclusive to the europen retailer and costs a little more. There was a thread some time ago where we tried to figure out of the Q1 and M1 are identical hardware wise but use dumped down software. Evidence is that they use windowing in firmware but it hasn't been explored any further.
Thread link: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/is-the-te-m1-a-software-downgraded-te-q1/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/is-the-te-m1-a-software-downgraded-te-q1/)

Title: Re: Is it still possible to buy Thermal expert Q1 around $500?
Post by: panzer04 on February 05, 2019, 12:05:58 am
Having purchased a Q1+ from i3, they still charge 500/600 USD for the Q1/+, though they have a mandatory 65usd shipping charge too.

Speaking specifically for Australia, the way import charges are taxed means no GST is charged (as they are meant to be charged by the seller) and imports less than 1000$ incur no duty, so the Q1/+ are basically just the cost of camera + shipping, which is nice.

If you want to check charges yourself, just toss them an email, they will reply within a day or two with a pricing brochure. Don’t ask me why they make it so annoying  ::)
Title: Re: Is it still possible to buy Thermal expert Q1 around $500?
Post by: TooQik on February 05, 2019, 04:57:33 am
@ Vipitis
Thanks for the feedback regarding the discussion on M1 - I'll have a good read of this.

@ panzer04
Have you received your Q1+ yet? I only ask because you may get hit with some extra costs when you receive it. As far as I'm aware, thermal cameras attract no duties so you won't get hit with the normal 5 - 10% duties charge, but I expect you may still get stung with GST due to a change in the way GST was changed last year for importation of goods under $1000.