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Offline oddbondboris

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Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« on: January 09, 2021, 07:44:48 pm »
I've got a broken IrInsight from everyone's favorite online auction site, it works and has heavy sensor damage, but it will not access the menus, when powering on while holding the trigger it freezes instead of going to the menus.  for my purposes the sensor damage might not be a full dealbreaker, already had the thing apart and the onboard battery appears to not have corroded anything, it still even keeps time

modern smartview does not work
i think flexview will
sightview or sightview pro will definitely work

tried digging around web archive but can't find anything useful
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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2021, 11:59:35 pm »
I own an Infrared Systems Snapshot 525 camera and looked for the Sightview software some time ago. Sadly I have had no luck at all. Good luck in your search.
Think very carefully about keeping a thermal camera that has severe microbolometer damage. Prices of used cameras have dropped and there are some excellent deals available on eBay. A damaged microbolometer can really mess up a cameras auto ranging and hottest/coldest spot detection.

Sadly information and software for Infrared Solutions Inc products can be very hard to find these days.

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2021, 12:44:08 am »
If you don't have it i doubt i'm going to find it.
i'm not entirely convinced the sensor is actually damaged, the firmware is obviously corrupt and i think it's not applying the factory correction properly and reading some random data as the correction map.
I figured out a lot of the interface it's pretty intuitive
none of this is case sensitive
A - displays serial ack on the screen
S - Takes a snapshot and stores it in the camera
J[XX] - shows the info from stored picture XX in hex
L[XX] - downloads stored picture XX via xmodem, the resulting file is 160x120 monochrome bitmap that gimp will autodetect and open
O recalibrates
X averages 30 frames then pauses output on that frame
Z takes one frame and pauses output
U returns to normal processing
[ closes shutter
] opens shutter
( enables something called "FINE" no visible effect
) disables "FINE"
don't do this if you don't have menu access | changes palette but only through a range of fixed palettes with no way to get back to autoranging that i can find
Y - goes into viewer mode on the device's display
while in Y mode:
-N and P go to the next and previous images
-A shows all images in rapid sequence
-D i think it should delete the current image but freezes my camera

I tried fuzzing the rest of the possible codes but nothing else seems to respond
 

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2021, 12:54:42 am »
There is an IR Insight camera for sale in the USA on eBay. If you offer to make a donation to the sellers beer fund they might send you a copy of the files on the CD ? The seller is more likely to respond to such a request from a fellow American citizen.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Infrared-Solutions-IR-InSight-Thermal-Imaging-Camera-complete-W-Software-case/174575180772?hash=item28a57ddbe4:g:1C8AAOSw2x5f6h0C

Thank you for detailing the commands that you have found

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2021, 04:45:52 pm »
Excellent work  :-+

I always check the internet archive so must have missed this software archive page.

Many Thanks for sharing the URL  :)

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2021, 05:14:02 pm »
Ah, I now know why I did not find "IR sightview" ...... I was not looking for it ! I was actually looking for ISI IR Snapview  :palm:

Sadly my ISI Snapshot 525 needs IR Snapview. It sounds a little like IR Sightview but sadly is very different  :(

The search continues......

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2021, 05:48:33 pm »
also to add to the commands found now that i have the software,
::: gets you a prompt
:::get returns
:get
average = 0x001E
background = 0x00FA
baud = 0x01
bias_target = 0x0847
bin_limit = 0x0040
bin_offset = 0x0000
black_hot = 0
brightness = 0x0000
build = 'Nov 16 2004 12:37:54'
button = 0x0600
command_mask = 0x0006
contrast = 0x0010
date = '210110124235'
deadpix_bg = 1
deadpix_save = 1
drift_factor = 0x0080
edge_thresh = 0x10
emissivity = 0x03B6
err = 0x029E
err_step = 0x0010
fine_ad0_trig = 0x3F
fine_ad1_trig = 0x40
fine_ad2_trig = 0xFF
fine_flags = 0x009F
fine_frames = 0x001E
fine_timer_delta = 0x0003
fine_timer_end = 0x003C
fine_timer_start = 0x000A
fix_vddr = 1
fixed_mode = 0x05
fixed_offset = 0x07DB
fixed_span = 0x0200
flow = 0
frame = 0x000070F5
image_count = 0x01
image_time = 0x00
interp = 1
lag = 0x02
min_span = 0x0080
osd_flags = 0x7F
overlay = 0
palette = 0x01
shutter_close = 0x06
shutter_open = 0x06
sn = 'IST20050137'
tec_timeout = 0x0F
type = 'IR-InSight T100'
vbias = 0x0DDD
vddr = 0x0EEA
verbose_init = 0
version = 'v1.3.4'
xfer_1k = 1
xfer_crc = 1


set allows you to set those things
 

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2021, 06:14:31 pm »
Oddbondboris,

Thank you for taking the time to look for the Snapview software for me. I downloaded it and tried to install the software but ISI have password protected the archive :( I have a faint memory that I came across this issue previously and wrote to Infrared Systems asking for the password. You had to provide your cameras serial number to get it but I never heard back from them  :(

I really appreciate you providing the URL though  :-+

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2021, 06:25:00 pm »
password is "fortune" without quotes
it needs a 32 bit install to run though
 

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2021, 08:56:29 pm »
 :clap:

How on earth did you find out the password ?

I was thinking of using some form of brute force ZIP cracker but did not think it would work. Please do tell me your secret  :)

You have been an absolute star. Thank you  :-+

Fraser
« Last Edit: January 10, 2021, 09:04:34 pm by Fraser »
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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2021, 09:24:14 pm »
I wouldn't trust any of this software outside of a virtual machine
https://github.com/thewd-hub/source
specifically
https://github.com/thewd-hub/source/tree/master/InstallShield%20Self-Extracting%20Executable%20Password%20Cracker/v1.00
also you probably really want this
http://web.archive.org/web/20060311103152/http://www.infraredsolutions.com/resources/SnapViewProV210.exe
password is vulcan

as for finding the software
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://infraredsolutions.com/* will give you every page under infraredsolutions.com takes a min to load but works
put exe in the search box and you'll find what you want
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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2021, 10:11:06 pm »
Oddbondboris,

Thanks to you I now know a completely different way to search for software using the Wayback machine. I normally just go to the index page of the company and work my way through the web sites different areas that would hold the data I need. Thank you  :-+

Fraser
« Last Edit: January 10, 2021, 10:46:04 pm by Fraser »
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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 01:28:10 am »
One last thing fraser, since you seem to love lenses and cameras, these things have a 20mm f0.8 lens on them with very close macro manual focus  and an image circle big enough (i think) for at least an old BST sensor, might be worth picking one up if you see it really cheap just for the lens
 

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Re: Looking for software to interface an ISI Ir-Insight
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2021, 02:18:09 am »
I already have such a lens from an ISI-Fluke cameras  ;D

As you say.... nice lenses and useful  :-+

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