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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #225 on: October 14, 2014, 03:36:54 pm »

As for imau, what makes you think it's a SCAM, we all know is an IRCAM ;)
patience is a virtue.

Edit: after all we didn't know anything about this camera 2 months back, they just announced it at the end of September so it's been really just 2 weeks.

SCAM = Seek CAMera.  ;D

Also a quote from a guy on Facebook:
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We'll see if they actually end up shipping anything. In the last week, as far as I can tell, there have only been two Youtube videos showing the camera - one unboxing (and not powering it up) and one showing 3D printing.

Seek's remarkable lack of communication since launch is extremely worrisome. I placed my order on 9/26, and my confirmation email stated, "we are currently experiencing a 5-7 business delay in the shipment of your order." Well, something like a week went by and then Seek announced that they were waiting for the Android app to go live before they shipping. Judging by the community reaction, this was a big surprise and was pretty upsetting to a lot of people.

Well, here we are, now 18 days since my order, 11 days since the app was released in the Play Store. No matter how you slice it, Seek is very late in shipping their product, and is not communicating with its customers. This whole thing is looking more and more like a scam everyday, or at least a horribly mismanaged company. Either way, if I don't hear *something* from them today to address  all of this, I'll be calling my bank to ensure I don't lose $214.93.

And Mike: <1000 installs are curiosity and 10 reviews are employees.
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #226 on: October 14, 2014, 04:04:14 pm »
Another possibility is they're caught in the backlog of stuff coming out of China - apparently they fired 500 corrupt customs officials & everything is taking a long time to get out of the country
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #227 on: October 14, 2014, 06:51:49 pm »
I'm in the 600s and getting impatient.   :rant:
How do you know you are 600's-maybe they simply assigned random unique numbers in the unknown range  >:D

Maybe, Seek Thermal team is waiting for... open source version of software compatible with this SCAM and Linux drivers :-DD
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #228 on: October 14, 2014, 07:01:03 pm »
Order page is now showing :

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Product is currently on back order.Product is being shipped as quickly as possible
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Product is currently on back order. It should begin shipping within the next several weeks.
For iPhone.

My guess is they initially did 500 of each, and the Apple ones are waiting for App store approval.
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #229 on: October 14, 2014, 07:38:57 pm »
And Mike: <1000 installs are curiosity and 10 reviews are employees.
I was trying to install the software, it just says my device isn't supported.  :-// And I don't think I'm going to order one of these before I see real people using it and all the kinks and bugs have been fixed. Maybe the next generation or cheap thermal imagers has come out and hopefully they would be even cheaper since it would be a toy.
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #230 on: October 14, 2014, 07:51:16 pm »
My device wasn't supported so I side loaded it, but since it supports my wife's phone then I installed it again in there. So I guess that counts for 2 installs for one device. But then I did share it so I don't know how much the install base reflects the actual purchases.
 

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« Reply #231 on: October 14, 2014, 10:06:44 pm »
My device wasn't supported so I side loaded it, but since it supports my wife's phone then I installed it again in there. So I guess that counts for 2 installs for one device. But then I did share it so I don't know how much the install base reflects the actual purchases.

I don't know if side-loading would show up in Play store stats.

The lack of communication is inexcusable.  Even if they have to manually do an export of their customers to use a service.  Sending emails to a mass of people is easy and common. 
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #232 on: October 14, 2014, 10:14:25 pm »
Just tweeted :
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Update: due to an unexpected shortage of a key component, production is delayed right now. Android shipping will ramp back up in a few days.

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #233 on: October 14, 2014, 10:28:58 pm »
My device wasn't supported so I side loaded it, but since it supports my wife's phone then I installed it again in there. So I guess that counts for 2 installs for one device. But then I did share it so I don't know how much the install base reflects the actual purchases.

I don't know if side-loading would show up in Play store stats.

The lack of communication is inexcusable.  Even if they have to manually do an export of their customers to use a service.  Sending emails to a mass of people is easy and common.

Well I had to download it so I use bluestacks you always have to be connected to the store to get the apk anyways. I guess I could have rooted my wife's phone but meh, bluestacks was easier.
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #234 on: October 15, 2014, 06:35:14 am »
Two new posts showed up on their blog:


IMHO a good way to calm down people who started to doubt that they will ever receive the module.

Sadly there are some bad news for us outside the USA:

when will you be shipping to the UK ?
in the next couple of weeks. pls fill out form here to be notified

Before they were saying that international shipping will be available by the end of this week...
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #235 on: October 15, 2014, 09:08:26 am »


IMHO a good way to calm down people who started to doubt that they will ever receive the module.

Sadly there are some bad news for us outside the USA:

when will you be shipping to the UK ?
in the next couple of weeks. pls fill out form here to be notified

Before they were saying that international shipping will be available by the end of this week...
yeah but before that they were saying 2015...
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #236 on: October 15, 2014, 09:11:57 am »
Two new posts showed up on their blog: http://seekthermal.tumblr.com/

Not sure I like all the talk of glue on that page.... >:(
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #237 on: October 15, 2014, 11:58:35 am »
Two new posts showed up on their blog: http://seekthermal.tumblr.com/

Not sure I like all the talk of glue on that page.... >:(

I don't mind it on the structural side, but I really, really like to take things apart.  When they are expensive things, it is nice if they go back together.   :o
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #238 on: October 16, 2014, 01:35:24 pm »
Two new posts showed up on their blog: http://seekthermal.tumblr.com/

Not sure I like all the talk of glue on that page.... >:(

I don't mind it on the structural side, but I really, really like to take things apart.  When they are expensive things, it is nice if they go back together.   :o

There is nothing a well placed set of screws and O-rings couldn't do... Unless you're building something you don't want your custo.. I mean consumers to get into.
I wonder... **BOOM
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #239 on: October 16, 2014, 01:57:40 pm »
There is nothing a well placed set of screws and O-rings couldn't do...
..at a price.
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #240 on: October 16, 2014, 01:59:12 pm »
Where can you order these from?
I noticed that amazon dropped their price to $199 recently from $228. Still no stock.
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #242 on: October 17, 2014, 02:21:26 pm »
Wire just published review: http://www.wired.com/2014/10/seek-thermal-infrared-camera-iphone-android/

The interesting part is comparison with Flir One.
 

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« Reply #243 on: October 17, 2014, 02:36:10 pm »
If you take a look at this video there is something like super-resolution happening:


Every few seconds image gets "nicer".
This are two frames at 00:02 and the difference is huge:
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #244 on: October 17, 2014, 04:31:12 pm »
Could that be the shutter actuating and NUCing or FFCing the image?
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I wonder... **BOOM
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #245 on: October 17, 2014, 04:41:18 pm »
Could that be the shutter actuating and NUCing or FFCing the image?
Could be the effect of keyframes on Youtube video compression of a noisy image
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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #246 on: October 17, 2014, 04:43:45 pm »
Wire just published review: http://www.wired.com/2014/10/seek-thermal-infrared-camera-iphone-android/

The interesting part is comparison with Flir One.

There is so much difference between Flir One and Seek shots. Obviously, MSX is great add-on.
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #247 on: October 17, 2014, 04:44:42 pm »
I have an order in with SEEK and I am certainly not concerned about delayed shipments. Such can happen to any ne start-up company selling a very popular product. This is nothing like the mess that we all witnessed wit teh Mu product. There is so much evidence of the SEEK unit existing that we can be realaxed about it being a viabe product. As to them being shipped, one of our members has one so tehy have definitely shipped cameras. Patience will be required and you will be rewarded with a thermal camera that truly breaks new ground in terms of resolution at the price point. Hopefully the glitches in the Android software will be resolved quickly.

I do not need an iOS version but I hope Apple don't get silly over inclusion in their Apple store or the use of their propriatary interface.

I am just very pleased that SEEK have the objective of bringing decent resolution and affordable thermal imaging cameras to the masses. May they be very succesful in doing so. We, the early adopters, are not only suppporting SEEKs efforts with our money but also getting ahead of the crowd in this new release of camera technology. Well worth a little wait me thinks  :)

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #248 on: October 17, 2014, 04:51:39 pm »
There is so much difference between Flir One and Seek shots. Obviously, MSX is great add-on.

Yes MSX is great, but comparison image is very bad. They should have used the same palettes and color range on both captures.
Or just take the images with gray gradient palette.
 

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Re: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming.. Seek Thermal
« Reply #249 on: October 17, 2014, 05:57:33 pm »
Also FLIR systems likely have much greater experience in thermal image processing than what's basically a smartphone-"app" startup, or whatever tyrian systems actually is...
I wonder... **BOOM
 


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