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Offline shock__Topic starter

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Unknown part
« on: September 15, 2018, 12:39:24 pm »
Hey there,
I'm currently in the process of partially reverse engineering a stamped card reader and stumbled upon a part I can't exactly verify.
The PCB the part is on can be dated to early/mid 70s and was at least designed in Germany.

Any ideas?
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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2018, 01:54:07 pm »
An image with a higher resolution would be helpful. At first glance it looks like a broken resistor. Have you checked it with a DMM?
 
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Offline Quarlo Klobrigney

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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2018, 02:17:35 pm »
Looks to be a diode, which says 141, 242, 343, 747. Poor resolution an poor colours. Please resend.
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Offline shock__Topic starter

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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2018, 04:34:34 pm »
Here's a better picture, a friend of mine who often works with vintage (analog) electronics told me it's a "flyback/recovery diode" (Freilaufdiode in German) which would make sense as it's connected to a relais.
Picture was taken with flash activated on my smartphone (which is the best I can offer). Size is slightly smaller than a common leaded resistor for signals (0207?).

Also attached is the (partial, temporary) schematic I got so far, U1 and U2 are the parts in question, the green line underneath corresponds with what I interpret as the "white marker" for the cathode.

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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2018, 05:49:09 pm »
Oyes that's a diode  ;)

An 1N400X will do fine here.
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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2018, 06:38:41 pm »
Maybe a 1N141. The 1984 Fairchild Databook says that a direct sub is the 1N4148.
See another version in the datasheet here:
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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 06:58:37 am »
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Maybe a 1N141.
Brown Yellow Brown = 141 ?? :-\
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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 03:26:02 pm »
Why do they have U2(diode?) across  74LS00N a nand gate? Wouldn't that feed back on it self? If the | on the schematic indicates the neg side of the diode wouldn't that mean when the first (top) pin is high it and the bottom pin is high it sends out zero. But if you put a diode on the output as a wire/bridgeto input 2 it can't turn on because it would then see that pin 1 and 2 are different? I'm confused it seems like that set up would make it never turn on.

What does that circuit do?

Datasheet of that part:
http://ecelabs.njit.edu/student_resources/datas/74ls00.pdf
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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 08:25:08 pm »
Because it's not a multiplier band.

Quote from: gbaddeley on Today at 01:58:37
Brown Yellow Brown = 141 ?? :-\
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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 08:34:18 pm »
Why is if followed by the?

It's all about the reference. I don't see a schematic.

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Why do they have U2(diode?) across  74LS00N a nand gate?
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Re: Unknown part
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2018, 07:32:19 am »
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Maybe a 1N141.
Brown Yellow Brown = 141 ?? :-\
Quoting my own post, the '??' mean I am questioning: Was it identified as IN141 by reading the colour bands?
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