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Another EE Student Looking for Resume Feedback
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: wflynn on May 02, 2023, 07:17:37 pm ---Lots of experience hiring and getting hired. My advice is to go here: https://www.manager-tools.com/2021/06/resume-update-2021 Listen to them. Do not deviate. They are THE experts. When I see a resume written in this format, I thank Mike and Mark.
While you're there, start at podcast one and go as far as you can. They are multiple MBAs worth of information.
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When I was an interviewer, a one page CV for a technical job would be ignored. Why? Insufficient information to indicate (1) whether/why the author was more interesting than the other applicants and (2) whether the author was playing buzzword bingo or simply bullshitting.
Preferred format:
* personal intro, one paragraph
* buzzwords in categories such as h/w, s/w, project management
* employment history, one line per job including year/month and job title
* a selection of tasks relevant to the job in question. One or two paragraphs per task, including technical content, responsibilities, achievements
1-3 should be in a format that can be speedread easily, to allow interviewers to spot intriguing points - which are then outlined 4.
HR droids only read 1-3. Interviewers read 4 as well.
Automated filters can be satisfied by 2.
After being in employment for a while, that might be four pages in total.
abeyer:
--- Quote from: wflynn on May 02, 2023, 07:17:37 pm ---Lots of experience hiring and getting hired. My advice is to go here: https://www.manager-tools.com/2021/06/resume-update-2021 Listen to them. Do not deviate. They are THE experts. When I see a resume written in this format, I thank Mike and Mark.
While you're there, start at podcast one and go as far as you can. They are multiple MBAs worth of information.
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Called "manager tools" and forces you to listen to hours of chit-chat to get at the actual content that could have been a one page summary... Checks out, the "this meeting could have been an email" style of management seems strong with them.
abeyer:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 02, 2023, 08:54:01 pm ---When I was an interviewer, a one page CV for a technical job would be ignored.
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A standard US resume is not typically the same thing as a CV, and no more than one page per decade of work experience is a pretty standard rule of thumb.
ebastler:
--- Quote from: wflynn on May 02, 2023, 07:17:37 pm ---Lots of experience hiring and getting hired. My advice is to go here: https://www.manager-tools.com/2021/06/resume-update-2021 Listen to them. Do not deviate. They are THE experts. When I see a resume written in this format, I thank Mike and Mark.
While you're there, start at podcast one and go as far as you can. They are multiple MBAs worth of information.
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Sorry, but a half-hour, audio-only podcast is an absurd way to describe how a written document should be structured. Even if the podcast is only meant as the free teaser, and their business model is to then sell you information in a more suitable format -- I am certainly not teased by that, but put off.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: ebastler on May 07, 2023, 08:27:51 am ---
--- Quote from: wflynn on May 02, 2023, 07:17:37 pm ---Lots of experience hiring and getting hired. My advice is to go here: https://www.manager-tools.com/2021/06/resume-update-2021 Listen to them. Do not deviate. They are THE experts. When I see a resume written in this format, I thank Mike and Mark.
While you're there, start at podcast one and go as far as you can. They are multiple MBAs worth of information.
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Sorry, but a half-hour, audio-only podcast is an absurd way to describe how a written document should be structured. Even if the podcast is only meant as the free teaser, and their business model is to then sell you information in a more suitable format -- I am certainly not teased by that, but put off.
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That is, as you imply, ridiculous! If that company doesn't understand why, then the rest of their stuff will be similarly wrong-headed. (Or maybe it is done like that to weed out savvy people thus leaving people who can be "scammed" :) )
The concept of the "60s elevator pitch" is valid. In the context of a job application:
* 60s to read the covering letter to see if it is worth reading the CV
* 60s scanning personal statement, buzzwords and employment history to see if it is worth reading the full CV
* only then spend longer reading the CV
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