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Offline julianhigginson

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2017, 12:22:56 am »
Hi all!

A friend of mine is forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days, after 15+ years, because his employer decided to pull out of Asia.

The immigration laws in Thailand are insane, they force you to leave the country within two weeks if you can't find a new job.  :palm:

He have been working legally and paying taxes for many many years, and now he will be forced to leave almost everything behind (loved ones, friends, habits, etc), very sad...

Right now he is desperately looking for a new work, but it is not easy. But, what else can he do? What other options does he have? Can anyone help in any way? Any tips or ideas are welcome, thanks.

Kind Regards,
Javier.

PS: I don't know if this is the right place to post this. If not, please move it, sorry.


So what ended up happening??

if you don't come back and fill us all in, this thread is doomed to fill up with armchair experts all pontificating to infinity on what he should have done prior to the problem occurring...

 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2017, 04:41:49 pm »
If he has enough savings to be able to support himself for awhile, it does sound daft to kick him out of the country: even though he isn't working, he'd sill be contributing to the economy by: buying food, paying the rent, paying taxes on goods etc. On the other hand, if he's begging or is on welfare then it's more understandable.
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2017, 09:26:47 pm »
If he has enough savings to be able to support himself for awhile, it does sound daft to kick him out of the country: even though he isn't working, he'd sill be contributing to the economy by: buying food, paying the rent, paying taxes on goods etc. On the other hand, if he's begging or is on welfare then it's more understandable.

It absolutely is daft but I wonder why so many of your countrymen didn't have the same view towards all those Poles, Czechs, Slovaks that are working and paying taxes in the UK ...

Careful about what you criticize elsewhere.

« Last Edit: March 31, 2017, 09:28:45 pm by janoc »
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2017, 11:23:46 pm »
If he has enough savings to be able to support himself for awhile, it does sound daft to kick him out of the country: even though he isn't working, he'd sill be contributing to the economy by: buying food, paying the rent, paying taxes on goods etc.

I understand that EU countries pretty much don't have a functioning boarder with other EU countries, but countries out of EU have.
And yes, there is a type of visa called tourist visa, and it has a purpose.
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2017, 06:30:24 am »
I understand that EU countries pretty much don't have a functioning boarder with other EU countries, but countries out of EU have.
And yes, there is a type of visa called tourist visa, and it has a purpose.

i know, it's awesome! i don't have to get  a visa to go to germany, or france, or almost anywhere in europe...
by comparison, it would be insane if you had to get a visa to go to different states inside the US (those are the distances), same with US <-> Canada
but i see your point
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2017, 09:16:42 am »
If he has enough savings to be able to support himself for awhile, it does sound daft to kick him out of the country: even though he isn't working, he'd sill be contributing to the economy by: buying food, paying the rent, paying taxes on goods etc. On the other hand, if he's begging or is on welfare then it's more understandable.

It absolutely is daft but I wonder why so many of your countrymen didn't have the same view towards all those Poles, Czechs, Slovaks that are working and paying taxes in the UK ...

Careful about what you criticize elsewhere.

Before you wallow in self-righteous smugness, please bear in mind that, on average, one has to earn over roughly £35,000 a year to be a net tax contributor in the UK.
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2017, 12:05:05 pm »
Don't those people have to pay VAT though...I was under the impression that VAT is the main tax income for a country like the U.K.

Edit: I'm mistaken. Income tax is the single largest part with 155b£, VAT comes third place with 83.8b£.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_Kingdom#Overview
« Last Edit: April 01, 2017, 12:26:10 pm by Neganur »
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2017, 02:54:39 pm »
Visas aren't decided by where you want to go

Visas are decided by where you came from

With a German or Sweeden passport, you can go easily for 157 countries

And if you are luck enough to have a Pakistan or Afghanistan passport, 24 countries is where you can go

 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2017, 04:04:57 pm »
Before you wallow in self-righteous smugness, please bear in mind that, on average, one has to earn over roughly £35,000 a year to be a net tax contributor in the UK.
You can hardly blame honest working people for a broken tax system. This is no different in other countries, by the way.
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2017, 11:47:51 pm »
Before you wallow in self-righteous smugness, please bear in mind that, on average, one has to earn over roughly £35,000 a year to be a net tax contributor in the UK.
You can hardly blame honest working people for a broken tax system. This is no different in other countries, by the way.

I am not blaming working people for anything, just pointing out that low paid workers are not net financial contributors to the exchequer in the UK.

This may be an uncomfortable or inconvenient fact to people of certain political persuasions, but a fact it is.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/10638283/How-much-we-give-the-state-in-tax-and-how-much-we-get-back.html
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2017, 11:56:42 pm »
If he has enough savings to be able to support himself for awhile, it does sound daft to kick him out of the country: even though he isn't working, he'd sill be contributing to the economy by: buying food, paying the rent, paying taxes on goods etc. On the other hand, if he's begging or is on welfare then it's more understandable.

It absolutely is daft but I wonder why so many of your countrymen didn't have the same view towards all those Poles, Czechs, Slovaks that are working and paying taxes in the UK ...
Yes goodness knows. It's silly.

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Careful about what you criticize elsewhere.
Why not? The UK is just as daft as anywhere else. Don't automatically assume everyone living in a certain country all thinks the same.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2017, 12:05:36 am by Hero999 »
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2017, 12:02:21 am »
Before you wallow in self-righteous smugness, please bear in mind that, on average, one has to earn over roughly £35,000 a year to be a net tax contributor in the UK.
You can hardly blame honest working people for a broken tax system. This is no different in other countries, by the way.

I am not blaming working people for anything, just pointing out that low paid workers are not net financial contributors to the exchequer in the UK.

This may be an uncomfortable or inconvenient fact to people of certain political persuasions, but a fact it is.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/10638283/How-much-we-give-the-state-in-tax-and-how-much-we-get-back.html

The solution seems obvious. Pay more wage :D
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2017, 12:17:45 am »
This may be an uncomfortable or inconvenient fact to people of certain political persuasions, but a fact it is.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/10638283/How-much-we-give-the-state-in-tax-and-how-much-we-get-back.html
There is a very good comment.
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This article is an absolute nonsense!!!
Anybody working in the private sector is most likely a net tax payer while those on benefits and public sector are net tax receivers.
The logic of this article to skip the obvious points is very disingenuous!
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2017, 01:15:48 am »
I am not blaming working people for anything, just pointing out that low paid workers are not net financial contributors to the exchequer in the UK.

This may be an uncomfortable or inconvenient fact to people of certain political persuasions, but a fact it is.
It's not uncomfortable, since the solution is easy. Just ban all low paid workers and your problem is gone.
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2017, 02:47:30 am »
It's not uncomfortable, since the solution is easy. Just ban all low paid workers and your problem is gone.

I can only hope you're being sarcastic
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2017, 02:56:22 am »
This thread is going south. It has developed into basically a debate between human right vs local welfare, and whenever political things show here, threads get locked.
 
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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2017, 09:06:05 am »
This thread is going south. It has developed into basically a debate between human right vs local welfare, and whenever political things show here, threads get locked.

When did it become a human right to be able to pick any country on the plant and go and live there?
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2017, 09:51:41 am »
You are welcome to come here, providing you meet the minimum entry requirements, or just go to any bordering country and walk across the border. So many people here are originally from Zimbabwe, DRC, Congo ( there is a difference), Mozambique and pretty much every country north of here, plus a large number of people from all over the world.  Lot of Dutch backpackers at the moment as well, for some reason. If you are in the UK a holiday here is very cheap, even with the long flight.
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2017, 06:37:46 pm »
When did it become a human right to be able to pick any country on the plant and go and live there?
Some would argue that comes automatically with being a human and born on this Earth, but that certainly is off-topic in this thread and quite possibly on these forums altogether.
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2017, 07:09:21 pm »
When did it become a human right to be able to pick any country on the plant and go and live there?
Some would argue that comes automatically with being a human and born on this Earth, but that certainly is off-topic in this thread and quite possibly on these forums altogether.

Yes, and now we are the only member of the common wealth that needs a visa to go to England or NZ  :-DD |O
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2017, 08:04:56 pm »
Before you wallow in self-righteous smugness, please bear in mind that, on average, one has to earn over roughly £35,000 a year to be a net tax contributor in the UK.
You can hardly blame honest working people for a broken tax system. This is no different in other countries, by the way.

I am not blaming working people for anything, just pointing out that low paid workers are not net financial contributors to the exchequer in the UK.

This may be an uncomfortable or inconvenient fact to people of certain political persuasions, but a fact it is.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/10638283/How-much-we-give-the-state-in-tax-and-how-much-we-get-back.html

At other words, that the low salaries workers are not profitable for being plundered.
It' s more simple reduce the taxes for example the income tax 20%    for all the people(low salaries to high salaries)
 

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Re: Forced to leave Thailand in about 7 days!
« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2017, 08:09:20 pm »
Yes, and now we are the only member of the common wealth that needs a visa to go to England or NZ  :-DD |O
Jamaica, India, Pakistan and several others commonwealth countries need a visa for the UK.
 


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