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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2011, 12:53:56 pm »
1. To comment on it's internal construction BEFORE he had taken it apart would of been some feat.

The scope was opened to probe the PSU rails on the smoke video, yet no reference to internal construction.

If during the tear down an OBVIOUS blown component had shown up the it is fair to comment on it, BUT it seems to me fair not to bring it up during the video as it is not relevant to the build quality.

I would find it extremely hard to resist comments of the sort 'This looks OK', 'no damage here', 'I suspect something went wrong in this section' etc during a teardown following a product failure. I think this behaviour is the norm, especially for non-scripted vblogs and enthusiastic engineers.

Or are you suggesting Dave is being economical with the truth?

I am not in a position to speculate or suggest anything, and my, or anyone else's opinion on this could not count less. This is between those involved in the oscilloscope arrangements in Agilent and on Dave's side. I am just stating what I noticed, nothing wrong with that.
 

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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2011, 01:30:16 pm »
Well having watched the tear down video it would seem hard to find anything you could do wrong in reassembly. Possible static problem but if so this is again an Agilent problem. I agree Dave's lack of comment is slightly unusual but as I've commented before he may be bound to a non disclosure agreement on this point who knows?. Lets wait and see Agilents position first.
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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2011, 01:49:04 pm »
Fully agree and Dave did take ESD measures. I am glad you did not take my comment out of context.
 

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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2011, 02:00:45 pm »
Fully agree and Dave did take ESD measures. I am glad you did not take my comment out of context.
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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2011, 08:20:16 pm »
If someone (in this case Dave) wanted to cover his ass he could do a really very simple thing... He could easily make a new tear down film saying "Oh it failled, lets take it apart to see wtf went wrong". He had all the time needed.
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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2011, 09:02:34 am »
Alex, i think the smoke video was done before the teardown video was recorded.

Correctamundo.

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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2011, 10:33:00 am »
Hi everyone. This is my little contribution to this topic.

I ‘m really appreciated Dave’s work and knowledge. He is one of few engineers who share his hardly earned experience.

I’m eager to know, what is wrong with Agilent 3000 scope. I’m surprised why Dave during teardown didn’t search component which released white smoke. That is very easy to find. Because, as far as I know damaged component keeps rousted smell for a long time.

There is something what really bothering me. This is Dave’s trying to proof himself as a pro in assembling/disassembling product (he uses clock to demonstrate speed) . This skill is irrelevant comparing to his engineering knowledge.
 

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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2011, 11:08:23 am »
I’m eager to know, what is wrong with Agilent 3000 scope.

You will find out. Agilent are investigating and will get back to me.

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I’m surprised why Dave during teardown didn’t search component which released white smoke.

I did, I didn't find anything obvious.
I did not mention the smoke or search in the teardown because I wanted it to be a standalone video. If I found anything I was going to shoot it and put it in the smoke video.

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There is something what really bothering me. This is Dave’s trying to proof himself as a pro in assembling/disassembling product (he uses clock to demonstrate speed) . This skill is irrelevant comparing to his engineering knowledge.

I put the clock in because a commenter on Youtube suggested it. I thought it was a fun idea.
Nothing to do with proving my skill (I'm not particularly quick)

Dave.
 

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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2011, 12:56:45 pm »
I thought the clock was a great idea. Also I noticed with jealousy the temperature - 35 deg C phew!
 

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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2011, 03:55:51 pm »
I’m eager to know, what is wrong with Agilent 3000 scope.

You will find out. Agilent are investigating and will get back to me.

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I’m surprised why Dave during teardown didn’t search component which released white smoke.

I did, I didn't find anything obvious.
I did not mention the smoke or search in the teardown because I wanted it to be a standalone video. If I found anything I was going to shoot it and put it in the smoke video.

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There is something what really bothering me. This is Dave’s trying to proof himself as a pro in assembling/disassembling product (he uses clock to demonstrate speed) . This skill is irrelevant comparing to his engineering knowledge.

I put the clock in because a commenter on Youtube suggested it. I thought it was a fun idea.
Nothing to do with proving my skill (I'm not particularly quick)

Dave.
I thought you always worked at that speed :o
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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2011, 06:15:08 pm »
Dave did you receive an answer form Agilent about failure?
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Re: FAILED Agilent 3000 Scope footage.
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2011, 07:30:22 pm »
 


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