Component List - With Spaghetti?!

[Wil_Bloodworth]

I have been going over the components list for the EICO 221 and there is an asterisk next to a couple of components.  The subtext for this is, "With spaghetti".  What the heck does this mean?



Thank you,

- Wil

[Wallace Gasiewicz]

Spaghetti is old fashioned term for insulating wire cover. Like shrink wrap, but does not shrink.

[Jwillis]

The old style cotton sleeving is still made for that real vintage look but many just use the fiberglass.

[Wil_Bloodworth]

Spaghetti is old fashioned term for insulating wire cover. Like shrink wrap, but does not shrink.

Ah, ok. That makes sense now that I visualize it in my head. LOL

Thank you!

- Wil

[amyk]

I guess calling it ziti would've been even more obscure.

[tooki]

And in critical applications, it’s common to use Teflon tubing for this purpose. In some European materials catalogs, they even specifically refer to the thin-walled, AWG-sized versions as “spaghetti type”.

[Haenk]

And as we all know, Spaghetti are not hollow. So the use of this wording is weird.

This is what you want to use: https://www.the-pasta-project.com/bucatini-spaghetti-hole/

On the other hand, I only know "sleeves" (the woven ones) or "tubes" (solid, like Teflon or PVC).

[TimFox]

Vintage "spaghetti" insulating tubing was varnished cambric, which is a bit stiff.
You can still find it at websites for electric guitar enthusiasts, but the modern replacement is either Teflon tubing or polyolefin heat-shrink tubing.

[tooki]

And as we all know, Spaghetti are not hollow. So the use of this wording is weird.

I think it’s because the light-colored woven sleeving looked like cooked spaghetti, especially once there was a bunch of it in a device.

Also, what you might not know is that in English, a common word for a tangle of cables is “cable spaghetti”. (In contrast with the “Kabelsalat” (“cable salad”) in German.)

This is what you want to use: https://www.the-pasta-project.com/bucatini-spaghetti-hole/

Actual pasta is not used.

On the other hand, I only know "sleeves" (the woven ones) or "tubes" (solid, like Teflon or PVC).

So what?!? Native English speaking electronics engineers and technicians know it.

[tooki]

Vintage "spaghetti" insulating tubing was varnished cambric, which is a bit stiff.
You can still find it at websites for electric guitar enthusiasts, but the modern replacement is either Teflon tubing or polyolefin heat-shrink tubing.

Or woven fiberglass for high-temperature use, with or without silicone impregnation. Those are really common, too.

[shapirus]

Vintage "spaghetti" insulating tubing was varnished cambric, which is a bit stiff.

My father, who worked in the electronics area in the '70s-80s, used to call pieces of insulation (of any kind, generally a piece of elastic tube) "кембрик", that sounds exactly like that (well, almost -- more like "cam-brick"). Now I finally know where this word comes from originally. This must mean it was, at that time, used by even older generations of engineers who started to use it when it actually meant woven fabric, and one can only guess how it got transferred literally unchanged into the then-USSR from the western world.

[Wil_Bloodworth]

Vintage "spaghetti" insulating tubing was varnished cambric, which is a bit stiff.
You can still find it at websites for electric guitar enthusiasts, but the modern replacement is either Teflon tubing or polyolefin heat-shrink tubing.

This knowledge... is why the internet can be so useful.

- Wil

[TimFox]

Cambric is a woven cotton fabric, commonly used in shirts.
Here is a discussion (for clothing) about the difference between cambric and other similar fabrics:
https://monsoonweave.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/lawn-vs-voile-vs-cambric-vs-poplin-what-is-the-difference/

[shapirus]

Cambric is a woven cotton fabric, commonly used in shirts.

Yes, that's what I figured out by searching.
The curious fact is that the word "cambric" has become, generally across ex-USSR, a common name for an insulation tube, or sleeve. Originally, obviously, a woven fabric insulation sleeve. The word "cambric" is not known here in any other meaning -- it only means insulation. Well, maybe it is, for example, in the clothing manufacturing circles, that I don't know.