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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #300 on: May 21, 2019, 05:17:23 pm »
You're asking for compensation. You gave them your money knowingly trying to exploit a mistake. They screwed up yes, but now you are demanding compensation because your investment didn't work out and you have found other investments that could have done better. If you wanted to earn 16% on your money you should have invested it in one of those other things rather than attempting to defraud a company that screwed up. It sounds petulant and childish to moan about it now, you knew it was an error going in and now you are acting as though they raped your mom and killed your dog. They owe you precisely the amount of money you paid them, nothing more.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #301 on: May 21, 2019, 05:27:33 pm »
You're asking for compensation. You gave them your money knowingly trying to exploit a mistake. They screwed up yes, but now you are demanding compensation because your investment didn't work out and you have found other investments that could have done better. If you wanted to earn 16% on your money you should have invested it in one of those other things rather than attempting to defraud a company that screwed up. It sounds petulant and childish to moan about it now, you knew it was an error going in and now you are acting as though they raped your mom and killed your dog. They owe you precisely the amount of money you paid them, nothing more.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I took my money out of savings (at 8%) and made the purchase. They could not be bothered to cancel and refund 4 months after I gave them the money and realized the mistake. Normally I order stuff ond the money is taken instantly IF the item is in stock and it arrives in days. IF they don't have stock they take payment on shipment. This lot demanded the money effectively before the goods were even made or perhaps on the date they shipped from taiwan to the US to be reshipped to the UK! I have not pushed the argument on the contract that they have firmly established and accepted a refund. I am back where i started.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #302 on: May 21, 2019, 05:32:08 pm »
You're asking for compensation. You gave them your money knowingly trying to exploit a mistake. They screwed up yes, but now you are demanding compensation because your investment didn't work out and you have found other investments that could have done better. If you wanted to earn 16% on your money you should have invested it in one of those other things rather than attempting to defraud a company that screwed up. It sounds petulant and childish to moan about it now, you knew it was an error going in and now you are acting as though they raped your mom and killed your dog. They owe you precisely the amount of money you paid them, nothing more.
"Defraud ; to take something illegally from a person, company, etc." Making up crimes to bolster the point being made seems dishonest in its own right.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #303 on: May 21, 2019, 05:34:20 pm »
what was illegal about anything anyone did?
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #304 on: May 21, 2019, 05:48:17 pm »
IANAL but I'm pretty sure Cole Parmer "broke the law" in as much as contract offer and acceptance works.  Assuming we share the same legal heritage in that regard anyway.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #305 on: May 21, 2019, 05:49:14 pm »
what was illegal about anything anyone did?
Libel is illegal I guess. ;D
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #306 on: May 21, 2019, 05:54:26 pm »
IANAL but I'm pretty sure Cole Parmer "broke the law" in as much as contract offer and acceptance works.  Assuming we share the same legal heritage in that regard anyway.
If that was true, you would not be able to pre-order games in Canada since pre-orders are often cancelled.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #307 on: May 21, 2019, 05:59:07 pm »
what was illegal about anything anyone did?
I was not illegal but has the same vibe in it.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #308 on: May 21, 2019, 05:59:23 pm »
If that was true, you would not be able to pre-order games in Canada since pre-orders are often cancelled.
Are we already moving the goalposts?
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #309 on: May 21, 2019, 06:09:51 pm »
IANAL but I'm pretty sure Cole Parmer "broke the law" in as much as contract offer and acceptance works.  Assuming we share the same legal heritage in that regard anyway.
If that was true, you would not be able to pre-order games in Canada since pre-orders are often cancelled.
There's an awesome thing on the internet called "Google".  I won't waste my time.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #310 on: May 21, 2019, 06:17:20 pm »
If that was true, you would not be able to pre-order games in Canada since pre-orders are often cancelled.
Are we already moving the goalposts?

Pre ordering is one thing, usually money is not taken until delivery and usually you are told WHEN you will get the goods. Cole and Palmer sold goods that they never had and never intended having until they had taken our money and then ordered the goods to pass on.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #311 on: May 21, 2019, 06:17:57 pm »
what was illegal about anything anyone did?
I was not illegal but has the same vibe in it.

Don't be obtuse!
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #312 on: May 22, 2019, 05:05:07 am »
what was illegal about anything anyone did?

It's not illegal to be a complete asshole, but I'm glad "is it legal" is not the only yardstick most people use to assess their behavior.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #313 on: May 27, 2020, 03:05:38 pm »
Old thread I know.

Here about 5 months ago I snagged some fairly good deals from Newark.

An example, I picked up about 800 of the LVC1G single flip flops for somewhere around 3 bucks.
But the best deal was 75 PIC32MM256 for less than $.25.  It was 25 each of the 28, 36 and 48 pin devices.

I don't feel the least guilty as they contacted me saying that some transistor price should have required a 1000 piece minimum order and I had only gotten like 500.  I told them to cancel the line item if it was a problem.  In the end they went a head and gave me the price anyway.

About once a month I try to hit them up in various catagories.  2 weeks ago I got 500 smd 2N222 transistors for something like  $.001 each.  Also picked up a couple AMD volt ref for less than $3 each, in the LS8 body... can't bitch.

What got me started was finding 900 0.1% 50ppm 1K18 1206 Vishway(sp) resistors for $9.00.

That was almost a year ago, and I'm still finding good deals so...
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #314 on: May 28, 2020, 06:19:19 am »
Old thread I know.

Here about 5 months ago I snagged some fairly good deals from Newark.

An example, I picked up about 800 of the LVC1G single flip flops for somewhere around 3 bucks.
But the best deal was 75 PIC32MM256 for less than $.25.  It was 25 each of the 28, 36 and 48 pin devices.

I don't feel the least guilty as they contacted me saying that some transistor price should have required a 1000 piece minimum order and I had only gotten like 500.  I told them to cancel the line item if it was a problem.  In the end they went a head and gave me the price anyway.

About once a month I try to hit them up in various catagories.  2 weeks ago I got 500 smd 2N222 transistors for something like  $.001 each.  Also picked up a couple AMD volt ref for less than $3 each, in the LS8 body... can't bitch.

What got me started was finding 900 0.1% 50ppm 1K18 1206 Vishway(sp) resistors for $9.00.

That was almost a year ago, and I'm still finding good deals so...

Those are good deals, if you need the part in question. I'm curious what you're doing with 800 single flipflops, 75 PICs and 500 transistors? Even free is no bargain if the parts just end up taking up space. I suppose you could build something cool and creative if you have a lot of free time.

A few years ago I pulled a bunch of full and nearly full reels of random passives out of the e-waste bin at work. Since they were free I couldn't resist, but I spent the next 3 years moving them from one spot to another, picking them up after they slid off a shelf and just generally having them in my way until I finally gave most of them away to some other members of this forum. There are just very few parts that I need more than a few dozen of one particular type.
 

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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #315 on: May 29, 2020, 01:59:45 pm »
A few years ago I pulled a bunch of full and nearly full reels of random passives out of the e-waste bin at work. Since they were free I couldn't resist, but I spent the next 3 years moving them from one spot to another, picking them up after they slid off a shelf and just generally having them in my way until I finally gave most of them away to some other members of this forum. There are just very few parts that I need more than a few dozen of one particular type.

Still better than having them end up in landfill!
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Re: Crazy price for a 10MHz pulse generator (£15 !)?
« Reply #316 on: May 30, 2020, 12:03:56 am »
Still better than having them end up in landfill!

Arguably yes, provided a significant portion of them do eventually get used. I'm all for trying to save stuff, however it's not hard to envision a situation where something is "saved", consumes space for years, consumes effort and energy transporting it around, passing off to new owners who got a "great deal" because it was cheap and then ultimately thrown away when somebody gets tired of trying to find a new home for it.

There's an old George Carlin skit I'm reminded of where he says that leftovers make you feel good twice. First you think "I'm saving food!" and then later when you throw it away after it's spoiled you think "I'm saving my life!"  ;D
 


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