Yes, exactly my point. I'll just wait until Toyota comes up with their PHEV lineup (or EV), probably when the solid-state lithium hits the market. It doesnt make sense to invest into it with the current battery technology. Their resale value will drop by a huge amount, because everyone will go for the new high capacity batteries, that dont turn into a fireball if damaged.PHEVs are a bit of a dead-end- a major advantage of EVs is that they are mechanically simple, a PHEV is the opposite.
Also Toyota should be shot for their "self-charging hybrid" bullshit which has done a lot of damage to public perception and information - people think a HEV is better than a PHEV because they don't need to plug it in
QuoteA Tesla is $675 every 12 months or 20,000kNope. That inspection is highly optionnal, and nobody does that every year.
So the Tesla warranty is not contingent upon regular servicing?
If I choose not to service my Tesla car, will this void my warranty?
Your New Vehicle Limited Warranty or Used Vehicle Limited Warranty will not be affected if recommended service is not performed.
However, coverage under your Extended Service Agreement may be affected if the recommended service is not performed. See the Tesla Extended Service Plan Terms and Conditions for further details.
Removable REx ? Seeing the powertrain complexity in an ICE, this will not happen.
Why not a removable battery half ? Would be much simpler, as a stop gap solution before good range gets really cheap, which is only a few years away anyway.
PHEVs have a significant benefit over this because not only do you have a hybrid drive train with proper stop-start and low speed maneuvering on the electric system (so no clutch losses), you can also run them on electricity only for short journeys. So my PHEV lets me drive mostly on electric. But as Mike mentions the disadvantage is that there is the mechanical complexity of an engine for 10% of use cases. Hard to justify that.
I think you are letting yourself get ripped off by a car dealer if you pay 1500 euro per year for maintenance of a car.Nope, that's realistic.
Sure. I had approx 400€ maintenance costs/Y for my old Diesel (and that is a real average figure including everything), because I did most myself.
A Tesla is $675 every 12 months or 20,000k
https://www.drivezero.com.au/cars/tesla/tesla-maintenance-australia-details-and-pricing/
A Tesla is $675 every 12 months or 20,000k
https://www.drivezero.com.au/cars/tesla/tesla-maintenance-australia-details-and-pricing/Tesla is not representative of "normal" EVs
PHEVs have a significant benefit over this because not only do you have a hybrid drive train with proper stop-start and low speed maneuvering on the electric system (so no clutch losses), you can also run them on electricity only for short journeys. So my PHEV lets me drive mostly on electric. But as Mike mentions the disadvantage is that there is the mechanical complexity of an engine for 10% of use cases. Hard to justify that.
No it's not when that 10% or even 1% can make or break your buying decision.
PHEVs have a significant benefit over this because not only do you have a hybrid drive train with proper stop-start and low speed maneuvering on the electric system (so no clutch losses), you can also run them on electricity only for short journeys. So my PHEV lets me drive mostly on electric. But as Mike mentions the disadvantage is that there is the mechanical complexity of an engine for 10% of use cases. Hard to justify that.
No it's not when that 10% or even 1% can make or break your buying decision.Correct. Often people buy cars for 1% of the use case. Think about towing a caravan or bringing lots of stuff. After owning a sedan I ran back to a station wagon because the sedan didn't have any space at all. But it is not like I drive around with the back of the station car filled to the brim. When it comes to a car you have to buy something which matches 99.9% of your use cases because buying a second or third one is just too expensive. That is why hybrids make so much sense; they keep fuel consumption low so their CO2 emissions are on par with CO2 output of an EV (from the average electricity mix you find in most parts of the world) but have none of the hassles of EVs when you want to make a long trip.
Correct. Often people buy cars for 1% of the use case. Think about towing a caravan or bringing lots of stuff. After owning a sedan I ran back to a station wagon because the sedan didn't have any space at all. But it is not like I drive around with the back of the station car filled to the brim. When it comes to a car you have to buy something which matches 99.9% of your use cases because buying a second or third one is just too expensive. That is why hybrids make so much sense; they keep fuel consumption low so their CO2 emissions are on par with CO2 output of an EV (from the average electricity mix you find in most parts of the world) but have none of the hassles of EVs when you want to make a long trip.
Yes, exactly my point. I'll just wait until Toyota comes up with their PHEV lineup (or EV), probably when the solid-state lithium hits the market. It doesnt make sense to invest into it with the current battery technology. Their resale value will drop by a huge amount, because everyone will go for the new high capacity batteries, that dont turn into a fireball if damaged.PHEVs are a bit of a dead-end- a major advantage of EVs is that they are mechanically simple, a PHEV is the opposite.
Also Toyota should be shot for their "self-charging hybrid" bullshit which has done a lot of damage to public perception and information - people think a HEV is better than a PHEV because they don't need to plug it in
For me the cost of running an ICE car isn't that much for the amount of use it gets. Assuming recharging is free from my solar (or office building), I'd save maybe $850 a year in petrol costs.
The insurance, registration and servicing costs more, all of which will be the same for an EV. To keep your new car warranty you still need the typical 6 month, 10k or 15k service.
Outside the US consumers don't own trucks, because in the few cases where they need to move a lot of stuff they can easily rent a truck. However, people don't take the same attitude to the few cases where they need to make a special trip with people, whether its a long range issue or carrying 7 people. They want their car to do everything they ever do that doesn't involve cargo. The psychology of this is interesting.
Tesla is not representative of "normal" EVs
Tesla is not representative of "normal" EVsWith a market share of about 50% in the US and more in some EU countries, Tesla is representative of "normal EVs", because it redefines the new normal with the more affordable model 3.
Check out the Rich Rebuilds series on trying to buy a 'certified pre-owned Tesla" from Tesla; and then tell me you'd still buy a vehicle from them.
Removable REx ? Seeing the powertrain complexity in an ICE, this will not happen.
Why not a removable battery half ? Would be much simpler, as a stop gap solution before good range gets really cheap, which is only a few years away anyway.