Careful. You some of you seem to be falling down the rabbit hole. In what way? Well lets give an example.
Say I invent some new car feul additive that makes turns your car into a flying car. Oviously I made this up. You disprove me by putting it in a car, and showing it does not fly.
So I come back with a counter claim it only works on a Wednesday, in a thunderstorm, while singing chasing cars by snow patrol... so you replicate this test and disprove me... so I claim you need to sing it 3 times in c minor...
Can you see the problem? Proving the physics and use limits of the Batterizer is enough. Copying every crazy hairbrained scheme they come up with to be false is nuts.
I had the same feelings. I'll reproduce my comment (with minor edits) from the testing thread.
TL;DR for the rest: It's clear that Batteroo has been a scam from the very beginning. What's next?
It is an
awful state of affairs that the various real engineers here and elsewhere have had to put 1,000x more effort into DEBUNKING this useless piece of shit than Batteroo ever put into justifying their claims. Their banner spec was not more consistent performance or a minor boost to battery life, it was
8X LONGER!!!!, and their derivation (if it can be called that) of that figure was not "grossly oversimplified", it was fraudulently ignorant. And on top of that, their numbers weren't even consistent! They were saying 8x longer in some spots, and "80% unused energy" in another, which is 1/5th used. Those two numbers
don't match. The defenders only offer strawmen, double standards, and moving goalposts in response to thorough criticism.
In a just world, just FrankBuss's first results were infinitely more thorough and honest than anything they ever showed. In a just world, we would only have to throw those results back in their face and say "Your move". Unfortunately, we do not live in a just world.
There is quite literally
no excuse for their behavior during their entire campaign. An honest campaign would have shown a proof-of-concept using normal-size components getting their
8X LONGER!!!! banner spec, then said "we want money to work on miniaturizing this". After all, if they can't get the performance they need out of existing modern components unconstrained by size, there's no way in hell their weird, esoteric production process (if they even have one!) for making smaller components could beat it.
They didn't do that. They had nothing solid, and all their explanations at the beginning were voodoo engineering instead of anything legit. If they didn't know it was a heap of shit they were selling at the beginning, they would have found out very quickly when they tried to actually implemented it. The results from Dave and others are so unambiguous that there can be no dispute that Batteroo
know that it's a dud. Given their vagueness from the beginning, I'm 95% sure it was never anything more than a con anyway.
The question then should probably turn to legal remedies. They are making money off of fraud. IANAL, but the US does have
lemon laws that might form the basis of a backlash against this, and I'm sure other countries will have similar consumer protection laws. They've probably never been used against a crowdfunding campaign, but everything's got to start somewhere. If this was a high-profile enough campaign it might be a good test case. That might depend on whether crowdfunding backers are considered "consumers" or "investors" though. I believe there are less protections for investors, which would provide way too huge of a loophole for these slimy bastards to ooze through.
Adding on to that, they've now got a camera test. On top of suspicions of rigged testing parameters
again, it looks like they scraped the bottom of the barrel to get the crappiest piece of crap they could find. The Batterizers for the camera are worth 1/4 the price of the camera itself!
Just to say it clearly,
they know that their product is worthless. They are fully aware that they took people's money for a stupidly optimistic shot at best, and false pretenses at worst. Scammers will never admit to running a scam though, so under criticism they have to twist, bend, stretch, and even outright fabricate the truth to serve their ends. Admitting that this whole project is worthless will either irreparably damage their credibility at best, or invite legal action at worst.
It doesn't take mind reading to know that they know, their behavior is classic scummy scammy bullshit.
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