New Agilent scopes

[DRT]

Here you go. The maximum square wave frequency is 10MHz. Rise time is about 19ns, so it's not very square at this frequency. This was with 50 Ohm coax and the input set to 50 Ohms, however it looks the same without the termination.

[Hydrawerk]

I can't find datasheet for DSOX3WAVEGEN that's why I ask someone to check square wave in scope.

Why not? It's a part of the DSOX3000 datasheet . http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5990-6619EN.pdf Look at page 23.

[Hydrawerk]

HP 33120A has only 40Ms/sec. It's an obsolete product... I would not buy it. http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5968-0125EN.pdf
On the other hand, it has a bigger output level 20V peak peak, it's better than DSOX3000 at this.

[hooj]

The maximum square wave frequency is 10MHz. Rise time is about 19ns, so it's not very square at this frequency.

Thanks!!! Can you make 100kHz square wave 2.8Vp-p screenshot?

HP 33120A has only 40Ms/sec. It's an obsolete product... I would not buy it.
On the other hand, it has a bigger output level 20V peak peak, it's better than DSOX3000 at this.

HP 33120A was just for example. I think about Philips PM 5193 
http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/Philips/Philips_PM5193_Operation_Manual.pdf

[DRT]

100kHz as requested, 2.5Vpk-pk since that's the most it will do into a 50 Ohm load.

[Tooms]

Here is my Agilent 33522A with 100kHz square wave 2.8Vp-p at 50ohm and the Agilent MSOX3024A with input at 50ohm






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[Tooms]

Here is Agilent 33522A with 10MHz square wave 2.8Vp-p at 50ohm and the Agilent MSOX3024A with input at 50ohm


Here is Agilent 33522A with 20MHz square wave 2.8Vp-p at 50ohm and the Agilent MSOX3024A with input at 50ohm


Here is Agilent 33522A with 30MHz square wave 2.8Vp-p at 50ohm and the Agilent MSOX3024A with input at 50ohm




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[hooj]

100kHz as requested, 2.5Vpk-pk since that's the most it will do into a 50 Ohm load.

Looks fine, thanks

Here is my Agilent 33522A with 100kHz square wave 2.8Vp-p at 50ohm and the Agilent MSOX3024A with input at 50ohm

Wow, looks great, rise/fall time is impressive, but 33522A too expensive toy.
I believe DSOX3WAVEGEN will be enough for my purposes

[Tooms]

I got my 33522A from here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Agilent-33522A-Function-Arbitrary-Waveform-Generator-30-MHz-/171030647669?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d2389375



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[Electro Fan]

New firmware available:
2000
3000

The 2000 got some serious love:

• SW option DSOX2MEMUP has been added to allow all channels up to 1 Megabyte of MegaZoom acquisition memory.
• The standard memory has been upgraded to 100 Kilobytes of MegaZoom acquisition memory per channel.
• SW option DSOX2EMBD has been added to support hardware accelerated I2C and SPI serial triggering and analysis, including decode, lister, and search capabilities.
• SW option DSOX2AUTO has been added to support hardware accelerated CAN and LIN serial triggering and analysis, including decode, lister, and search capabilities.
• SW option DSOX2COMP has been added to support hardware accelerated RS232/UART serial triggering and analysis, including decode, lister, and search capabilities.

I was in your exact scenario, and I finally went with the two channel 2000. Don't do it. You think you only need two channels, but once you start really getting into your microcontroller projects, you'll start saying, "damn, I wish I had a couple more channels!". I sold that scope and now I have a four channel 3000. Two more channels and the extra memory depth is totally worth it for me. There have been times already that I wish I had even more memory depth than what the 3000 has. The serial decode options on the 3000 are also nice.

Hi ToBeFrank,
 
I saw a couple of your posts that I merged together in the quote above.

Given your experience with the Agilents, I have some questions for you.  Thx



In the EEV video on the 2024A at about 20:30 I thought Dave said there is no serial decode capability, but at about 30:30 Dave seems to show serial decoding.  (No doubt, I'm confused )  And in your list of firmware updates for the 2000 it looks like some good serial updates were included - maybe they are only available if you have the DSOX2EMBD option?

Also, according Agilent's literature serial search isn't available - is that correct?  (It looks like some level of serial review is available but maybe not "search"?)

Moving onto your post about the 2000 vs. the 3000, any chance you can update us on what are the top several reasons you are glad you made the move from the 2000 to the 3000 ?  I'm especially interested in anything related to managing the digital signals (serial and parallel) and anything that has to do with simulataneously displaying and time correlating the analog and digital signals.  Also, any info on the relative search and navigate features on the 2000 and 3000 would be great to understand.

One last question, specifically on I2C and SPI in case you have been working with these - what is the feasiblity of using the DSOX2EMBD with just 4 analog channels (vs. using the 8 channel LA probe)?  If this is practical, theoretically a user could start with DSOX2024A and the DSOX2EMBD and then add the MSO (8 channel LA) later if it's needed.   (Related to this, have you found any difference between the DSOX2EMBD and the DSOX3EMBD?)

Thanks! EF

[Hydrawerk]

Hi !
After a long research, I found a way to try the optional features on the 2000x/3000x for more than 30 days.  Possibly also on the 4000x.
Drop me a PM if you're interested.

Looks good, but has somebody tried this?

[Hypernova]

Hi !
After a long research, I found a way to try the optional features on the 2000x/3000x for more than 30 days.  Possibly also on the 4000x.
Drop me a PM if you're interested.

HW or SW mod?

[Hydrawerk]

Send a message to djvinc. It's a firmware modification.

[con-f-use]

Hi there, I just took the chance and bought a used MSO2024A with WaveGen, VGA and Segmented Mem option for USD 2000. It was barely used as the department closed just 5 month after they bought it. Did I get ripped off?

Also was there a firmware-upgrade to support arbitrary waveforms on the X2000 series? I recall Dave mentioning something in a video.

[Hydrawerk]

Also was there a firmware-upgrade to support arbitrary waveforms on the X2000 series?

No, it was for the X3000 series.

[kg4arn]

Hi there, I just took the chance and bought a used MSO2022A with WaveGen, VGA and Segmented Mem option for USD 2000 from my university. It was barely used as the department closed just 5 month after they bought it. Did I get ripped off?

Also was there a firmware-upgrade to support arbitrary waveforms on the X2000 series? I recall Dave mentioning something in a video. Is it free?

Sounds like a good deal to me.  Looks like these are going for over 3K new with the VGA and the Seg Mem.

There's a buy one get one free upgrade promotional from Agilent right now.

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=2309757&nid=-536902447.0.00&id=2309757

[plesa]

Has anyone idea what is behind licences Infiniium mode and Remote Log in the current 2.35 firmware?
I'm not sure if both were present in any previous versions.

[con-f-use]

Is there a way to have serial decoding on the logic channels (X2000)? I want to be able to read the ASCII message from an FTDI on one of the logic channels. It works with the analogue channels but you cannot enable serial decode when the logic analyzer is running. I don't really get why the scope doesn't do that. Once the aquisition ended the scope should have plenty of time to decode the 1s and 0s from the logic channels into something human readable.

[Blue]

Anyone know what djvinc meant with firmware update?
I cannot find him any more on the members list.

[Bored@Work]

Anyone know what djvinc meant with firmware update?
I cannot find him any more on the members list.

If I remember it correctly he wanted to go / was asked to go. He was selling firmware hacks and moved on / was moved on when that didn't go down well here.

[dr.diesel]

Can you get a scope screenshot from the Agilent web interface?

[lewis]

Can you get a scope screenshot from the Agilent web interface?

yes!

[dr.diesel]

Can you get a scope screenshot from the Agilent web interface?

yes!

Mmmmmmm, that is a key feature I'd like to have.  Something Rigol doesn't offer, at least on the DSA they don't.

[EEVblog]

Anyone know what djvinc meant with firmware update?
I cannot find him any more on the members list.

If I remember it correctly he wanted to go / was asked to go. He was selling firmware hacks and moved on / was moved on when that didn't go down well here.

He voluntarily asked me to remove his account and his posts, so I did so.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Can you get a scope screenshot from the Agilent web interface?

yes!

This is the thing I mostly uses LAN for on my MSO6000. What would be handy though is the ability to do a colour-invert to get a white background for when you want to print it - annoying to have to put it throug a graphics program to do this every time.