FS [UK]: Keysight 33210A Function/Arbitrary Waveform Generator - SOLD

[giosif]

Hello,

I am looking to sell my Keysight 33210A which is in used but working condition (previously repaired - please see thread here https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/help-identify-ic-217384/).
It is missing the rubber bumpers and the handle.

[UPDATE] I wanted to mention the unit does NOT have the ARB option (i.e. option 002) enabled.

Asking price is £700 £650 £600 £450 £400 £350 £300 £250.
I prefer collection, but shipping is possible at extra cost.

[giosif]

And a few more pictures...

[giosif]

Price drop

[giosif]

Another price drop.
Am I that off the mark with the price for this?

[anotherlin]

Am I that off the mark with the price for this?

Yes, I would say so.
I've seen quite a few 33210s sold for around 300 euros on ebay in the past.
Unless you really want/need to buy Agilent/Keysight branded equipment, and have "profesionnal" specification requirements, there are cheaper alternatives, especially at the 10MHz range.

[giosif]

Thank you for that!
I'm just puzzled by the difference from the retail price (seeing it at around £1,300 online).
I mean, I know that is a new device and it includes the "brand value-add", etc., but still, I wouldn't think a used one would shed £1,000...

[George Edmonds]

It is the difference between the commercial world with tax write offs and the hobby world which you are aiming at

George G8HIG

[Mr. Scram]

Thank you for that!
I'm just puzzled by the difference from the retail price (seeing it at around £1,300 online).
I mean, I know that is a new device and it includes the "brand value-add", etc., but still, I wouldn't think a used one would shed £1,000...

It varies, but the Keysight AWG offerings seem very expensive compared to competitors. Their oscilloscopes are still expensive but comparatively less so and it seems these seem to be more popular amongst hobbyists and on the used market. These oscilloscopes also have unique qualities but a single channel AWG of unremarkable bandwidth is harder to justify.

[nfmax]

Am I that off the mark with the price for this?

Yes, I would say so.
I've seen quite a few 33210s sold for around 300 euros on ebay in the past.
Unless you really want/need to buy Agilent/Keysight branded equipment, and have "profesionnal" specification requirements, there are cheaper alternatives, especially at the 10MHz range.

Are you sure those weren't the older and lower-spec 33120A? 300 Euros would be a reasonable price for one of those

[giosif]

Am I that off the mark with the price for this?

Yes, I would say so.
I've seen quite a few 33210s sold for around 300 euros on ebay in the past.
Unless you really want/need to buy Agilent/Keysight branded equipment, and have "profesionnal" specification requirements, there are cheaper alternatives, especially at the 10MHz range.

Are you sure those weren't the older and lower-spec 33120A? 300 Euros would be a reasonable price for one of those

I wonder the same.

[giosif]

It is the difference between the commercial world with tax write offs and the hobby world which you are aiming at

George G8HIG

I understand what you are saying, but still, I would have expected more of a 50%-60% percent drop in price, not 75%.
Even the venerable (but rather long in the tooth) Fluke 87V fares better when comparing retail vs used price.

[giosif]

Thank you for that!
I'm just puzzled by the difference from the retail price (seeing it at around £1,300 online).
I mean, I know that is a new device and it includes the "brand value-add", etc., but still, I wouldn't think a used one would shed £1,000...

It varies, but the Keysight AWG offerings seem very expensive compared to competitors. Their oscilloscopes are still expensive but comparatively less so and it seems these seem to be more popular amongst hobbyists and on the used market. These oscilloscopes also have unique qualities but a single channel AWG of unremarkable bandwidth is harder to justify.

You are probably right. I am only a hobbyist, so I don't deal with commercial pricing of such equipment on a regular basis, even more so for Keysight gear.

[giosif]

Price lowered once again.

[jpb]

Thank you for that!
I'm just puzzled by the difference from the retail price (seeing it at around £1,300 online).
I mean, I know that is a new device and it includes the "brand value-add", etc., but still, I wouldn't think a used one would shed £1,000...

It varies, but the Keysight AWG offerings seem very expensive compared to competitors. Their oscilloscopes are still expensive but comparatively less so and it seems these seem to be more popular amongst hobbyists and on the used market. These oscilloscopes also have unique qualities but a single channel AWG of unremarkable bandwidth is harder to justify.

An additional issue with this model is that there is no external reference input (it is optional) - many hobbyists I think (I've not done a survey though) have acquired some sort of GPSDO and like to have things to plug it into!

[Mr. Scram]

I understand what you are saying, but still, I would have expected more of a 50%-60% percent drop in price, not 75%.
Even the venerable (but rather long in the tooth) Fluke 87V fares better when comparing retail vs used price.

The 87V is quite sought after.

[jpb]

On the other hand the Fluke 28II ex, which is £1,264.80 new (inc VAT on RS) sells  on ebay for under £300 used because companies aren't going to risk buying a used Ex model and hobbyists only treat it as a 28II which is bulkier and perhaps less desirable than the 87V.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fluke-28-II-Ex-IP67-Intrinsically-Safe-Industrial-Multimeter/383563891002

[AVGresponding]

At the risk of continuing this off-topic tangent, I recently got a used 87V for £112, and saw one go for £102 a week or so later.

If I had the cash I'd jump at that 33210, as a decent AWG is on my hit list, and it seems reasonably priced. Sadly, it's well beyond my means atm (too many other TE acquisitions still to pay for)...

[giosif]

Thank you everyone for your input!

Lesson learned for me that not all products depreciate in price from new to used the same way (in general terms).

[giosif]

Dropping price once more.
I need to stop doing this or I'll end up paying for someone to take it. 

[voltsandjolts]

At GBP400 + shipping, folks are probably comparing it to a new Siglent 2042X.

33210A 14-bit, 1-channel, 10MHz, 8kpts (!) arb memory, has a Keysight badge, which adds some value.

2042X 16-bit vertical, 2-channel, 40MHz (sine, hack it for more), 8Mpts arb memory. GBP490 inc VAT delivered with warranty.

[giosif]

  Dropping price once more. 
One more comment and I'm giving it for free!
Only kidding. 

Seriously, though, this is the last price drop.

After such an experience, I can relate to those users asking people to name their price for a given product being sold vs. offering a price from the start.

[Someone]

Dropping price once more. 
One more comment and I'm giving it for free!
Only kidding. 

Seriously, though, this is the last price drop.

After such an experience, I can relate to those users asking people to name their price for a given product being sold vs. offering a price from the start.

Well you could have done a few minutes research to find out what these have been selling for in similar condition, most buyers will do the same... except here they discover your price is unrealistic and then possibly never come back to check/consider it again.

[Wolfgang]

IMHO, the 33210A is completely overpriced. For 350€ you get
- a new RIGOL DG1022Z (25MHz) instead of 10MHz with the Keysight
- 2 Channels instead of one
- Much more modulations, waveforms, arb, external reference and whatnot
- 3 years warranty
- If really short of money the DG1022Z can be hacked into a 60MHz model.

Buy a Keysight just because of the label

[TheSteve]

33210A does have one very nice feature compared to the other AWG's mentioned - the output is isolated.

[giosif]

IMHO, the 33210A is completely overpriced. For 350€ you get
- a new RIGOL DG1022Z (25MHz) instead of 10MHz with the Keysight
- 2 Channels instead of one
- Much more modulations, waveforms, arb, external reference and whatnot
- 3 years warranty
- If really short of money the DG1022Z can be hacked into a 60MHz model.

Buy a Keysight just because of the label

 
Given the alternatives mentioned here, I wonder how Keysight is selling these things (i.e. the 33210A)...
In any case, I need to review my lowest price threshold.