A LED That Violates THE Law of Thermodynamics by 230%

[Sionyn]

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds

[Psi]

Except that the article states
 "You may ask, 'Wouldn't that mean it breaks the first law of thermodynamics?' The answer, happily, is no."

[Mechatrommer]

it is possible to break thermo law, by putting aside the external sources, counting only the internal output.

[Sionyn]

a better title exploiting thermodynamic to get a better efficacy

[rolycat]

So to summarise, your contribution is factually incorrect in three respects ₁, grammatically inaccurate ₂, late and redundant ₃. Pretty impressive for a post with no content except the link.

1 There are four laws of thermodynamics, not one, it doesn't violate the first, and even if it did 230% efficiency would mean a 130% violation.

2 It's an LED.

3 Psi reported this discovery (accurately) back in March.

Yes,  I'm really Bored@Work.

[mrflibble]

Good thing that it doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics then. But what the hell, who needs accuracy when you can have a nice headline instead.

[IanB]

Everyone knows you can do this by connecting a motor to a generator and then wiring the generator back to the motor through an amplifier. That way there is enough power for the motor and some left over for the LED. There are lots of videos on YouTube that show how easy this is 

[ciccio]

2 It's an LED.

Sorry for the Out Of Topic, but I'll like to improve my limited (or maybe rusty) English grammar.
Why a Light Emitting Diode becomes an LED?
Thanks

[Sionyn]

shorting, possibly laziness,  tradition ?

do not know i am afraid,  as my language grammar skills have been proven to be dross i wouldn't worry about it 

[IanB]

Sorry for the Out Of Topic, but I'll like to improve my limited (or maybe rusty) English grammar.
Why a Light Emitting Diode becomes an LED?
Thanks

It depends on how you sound "LED" in your mind when you read it.

If you sound out the letters individually it would be "an ell-ee-dee", however if you sound it as if it were a word, it would be "a led".

In English-speaking countries most people sound out the letters and so it would be most natural to write and say "an LED".

[Sionyn]

Abbreviations that start with the consonants F, H, L, M, N, R, S and X attract an, because they start with vowel sounds.
i wasted 2 minuets finding that out


i studied electrical engineering and computer science not English language, besides when did this become a grammar nazi forum ?

[Wartex]

2 It's an LED.

Sorry for the Out Of Topic, but I'll like to improve my limited (or maybe rusty) English grammar.
Why a Light Emitting Diode becomes an LED?
Thanks

exception for acronym!

[Sionyn]

no, he's right

Abbreviations that start with the consonants F, H, L, M, N, R, S and X attract an, because they start with vowel sounds.
Abbreviations that start with the vowel U attract a, because U starts with the consonant sound 'y'.

[ciccio]

Thanks to everyone for the clear and appropriate explanations.

i studied electrical engineering and computer science not English language, besides when did this become a grammar nazi forum ?

Hope you do not refer to me....
Best regards

[Sionyn]

i was referring to no one
also
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Grammar%20Nazi

[Mechatrommer]

So to summarise, your contribution is factually incorrect in three respects ₁, grammatically inaccurate ₂, late and redundant ₃. Pretty impressive for a post with no content except the link.

probably... politically correct!

1 There are four laws of thermodynamics, not one, it doesn't violate the first, and even if it did 230% efficiency would mean a 130% violation.

yes but you break one you break all. you break one you break the law.

Yes,  I'm really Bored@Work.

no! to be an BaW you need to know how to make sarcasm in the form of joke, and you gotta be good, even the real BaW not really that good (in some aspect).

[Zero999]

Thanks to everyone for the clear and appropriate explanations.

i studied electrical engineering and computer science not English language, besides when did this become a grammar nazi forum ?

Hope you do not refer to me....
Best regards

Although, the word Nazi often causes offence even if none was intended, especially in some European cultures. Nowadays, the word Nazi often used as a slang word for someone who tries to force their values onto everyone else.

[vk6zgo]

Sorry for the Out Of Topic, but I'll like to improve my limited (or maybe rusty) English grammar.
Why a Light Emitting Diode becomes an LED?
Thanks

It depends on how you sound "LED" in your mind when you read it.

If you sound out the letters individually it would be "an ell-ee-dee", however if you sound it as if it were a word, it would be "a led".

In English-speaking countries most people sound out the letters and so it would be most natural to write and say "an LED".

From my observation,that is not the case in Australia,where they are more commonly referred to as "Leds",pronounced like the metal.

[Ferroto]

it is possible to break thermo law, by putting aside the external sources, counting only the internal output.

I do believe that's how most free energy myths get started.

[Zero999]

It depends on how you sound "LED" in your mind when you read it.

If you sound out the letters individually it would be "an ell-ee-dee", however if you sound it as if it were a word, it would be "a led".

In English-speaking countries most people sound out the letters and so it would be most natural to write and say "an LED".

From my observation,that is not the case in Australia,where they are more commonly referred to as "Leds",pronounced like the metal.

I've heard people say both. Pronunciations of many words vary, for example some people pronounce the letter I in either and others sound the letter E, either way is valid.